At what point did you realize you were watching something special, something that'd left an impression in your mind for years to come.
My first vagina.
>>71590390
What is the name of the psychological condition that causes people to pretend that this movie was good?
>>71590456
insanity
Opening scene and that aesthetic as fuck title card
pure kino
http://vmashup.com/ONk4QdzT
>>71590456
good taste
>>71590390
>1108
>Revelations 11:08
>And their dead bodies will lie exposed in the open street of the great city
> the completely dark eyes of the kid when his mother falls
Greatest clichés of all time, thread?
>>71590456
if you deny some people liked it, that's called cognitive dissonance
>>71590456
Sadness, basically. They cant accept the truth so they fool themselves.
>>71590456
Not being a pleb syndrome
>>71590503
damn
>Daredevil
6/10
>Daredevil Director's Cut
9/10
>BvS
6/10
>BvS Directors Cut
8/10
>>71590390
No grit in that scene whatsoever. The parents look like they gently fell on the ground to take a nap in front of their son with the bad haircut. Felt incredibly forced at trying to do an "emotional" moment, even though we've seen Batman's parents get shot twenty times in other movies.
>>71590390
Is that the Comedian from Watchmen?
The Comedian was Batman's dad?
>>71590731
>>Daredevil Director's Cut
>9/10
>still has the seesaw fight
Fuck off.
When this started playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZN1mO3zkHI
>>71590473
A 3 syllable word for anyone who understands kino
>>71590840
This sounds like the only thing Zimmer composed. The other are all made by Junkie XS
>>71590390
>Zorro film in the 80's
>Same year as Excalibur
They went to see Zorro: The Gay Blade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otdAi1uAmJk
>>71591054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdc6QjBNOOU
>>71591054
he clearly made this since its a bit of a rip off from inception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnNwMiOWDM0some of the ost is growing on me 2bh
>>71590860
>>71590390
>the same guy who played the Comedian in Watchmen which had a Batman reference (the couple on the left are Bruce's parents coming home from the opera; also notice the banners on the wall) now plays Bruce's dad
pottery
>>71591228
That scene was so fucking good
>>71591377
>batman reference in Watchmen
>Watchmen reference in Batman
It's like self-fulfilling prophecy.
Bravo Snyder
>>71591471
just for you
>>71591901
the blu-ray can't come out soon enough
This movie was not good
It was as bad as the rest of capeshit
Fuck off
>>71591901
>yfw the little girl died later because she just got out of a fire and all the people around her suffocated her
>>71591958
WTF i hate kino now.
>>71590503
Oh fuck
>>71591901
Wish they'd also shown him put out the fire as well.
>>71591901
>superman_makes_a_guest_appearance_in_twd.webm
>>71590456
It's the denial stage in the 5 stages of grief
It'll be a long way until we reach acceptance.
>>71592002
Yeah I wish they had made an extended compilation of him doing heroic acts, one of the best parts of the film.
>>71590390
Avatar the movie made me realize i was watching something special in the beginning. When the giant tractor rolls through with giant arrows sticking out of the tire. that made me realize how good the movie was
>>71590390
when the pearl from his mother's necklace fell with Bruce into the cave.
the symbolism in BvS is excellent, honestly.
>>71592018
you mean the people that can't come to terms with the fact that BvS is good, right?
>>71590503
>Millenial fedora tippers quoting the bible to make their superhero movie seem more important
>this movie sucks
>*gets bad reviews through theatrica run*
>this is the best cape shit ever
>2 deep 4 plebs
>muh symbolism
Does /tv/ try to be the worst board or does it happen organically?
Saw it for the first time yesterday.
Thought it was good.
What the fuck do people want? Could it have used a bit more humor.. sure, but I want DC to do the gritty dark stuff and Marvel to do the fun campy stuff.
Can't we all just get along?
I would put it below Iron Man 1 and GotG. Better than Ultron I think.
>>71592055
I was streaming the movie while studying and thought it would be shit and I wouldn't even watch it. I noticed that pearl and the entire opening sucked me in. 3 hours later I still don't get why the hate??
>>71592002
why is there no color in this movie
>>71592096
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/1461670743033.gif/
really autistic.
>>71590390
definitely not at this part, why start the movie of shit we've already seen a hundred times..
if anything they should have flashed back to young Bruce in the style of Man of Steel
>>71591377
Snyder Kinomatic Universe confirmed.
somehow i've always known
>>71592152
I recommend an eye exam as soon as possible anon.
>>71592199
too dark
>>71592152
>>71592119
It's 90% company wars retards
X-Men and Snyder films are my favourite superhero films.
>>71592283
good taste anon
why do all the superman shots have grandeur?
>>71592252
it's just the vignette
>>71592068
Nobody would be sad by a good movie.
There is no console wars among movies.
You just tell that yourself to keep consistent with your narrative to explain why people dislike the movie while being able to accept that it's simply shit.
>>71592018
With the ultimate cut we at least already reached the bargaining stage.
What's the next step?
>>71590503
of course, this would actually be Revelations 11:8, not 08
>>71590390
10 minutes into "The next three days" I knew it will be my favorite movie.
>>71592283
Ok I am not a comic book guy so half the time I don't know if someone is DC or Marvel (or sony or whatever the fuck entity owns them) so maybe that is why I don't get the hate.
I watched the Ultimate edition I think (they said fuck a couple times) so maybe that is why I thought it was good.
I like Marvel too and am excited and hopeful for DC. I just hope this didn't scare them off from making it a bit more serious.
Reminds me of Apple vs Android stuff. They are fucking different why even compare them.
>>71592255
Allow me to rephrase.
Why does every scene only consist of shades of one color?
>>71592193
The whole movie is about "heroes and villians" (really metahumans) with parental abandonment issues. You HAVE to open with that scene for batman.
Batman's entire world view was formed by him trying to rationalize this moment
Lex's was formed by him trying to rationalize his father's attitude toward him
Superman's was formed by him trying to rationalize his adoptive's father attitude toward him
I'm 100% convinced anyone who didn't like this film just missed the point of everything and wanted Quips vs Capes: 3D instead.
It almost feels like an extension of/aside to Watchmen
>>71590390
I watched it for the first time last night.
It certainly wasn't as bad as I was expecting but it was pretty average.
Some things made no sense, like the dream sequences, was that vision or just a dream? Was someone from the future contacting Bruce through his dreams? If so how come he does NOTHING about it. The guy screams that Lois 'is the key' and he does nothing with that information.
The film goes to shit once Superman and Batman actually start fighting.
How they end up stopping was stupid and Doomsday should have been a totally different movie.
oddly enough, Lex Luther's casting actually went down well with me, I was pleasantly surprised.
All in all, I rate it 5/10, I didn't get this ending, I'm guessing it means he is alive? I would guess so but don't get the significance of the whole floating dirt thing.
>>71592199
here's how it looks with color for comparison
>>71592018
>we
>>/reddit/
>>71592445
agreed.
>>71592400
>the passages goes in double digits
>has a problem that people phrase the single digits as 0X
stop crying
>>71592152
Colors are not edgy
>>71592152
it's cheaper to shot in b&w. it comes in very handy when your film cost $400 million to make
Directors cut vastly improved the movie.
My only problem is that they made Batman a killer. I understand hes fallen and gone DKR mode, but even so hes a little too happy to let people die.
They didn't even really state that he wasn't always a murderer.
>>71592445
And here's the talking point of
"2deep4u"
Lol you guys are the worst.
>>71592514
>going out of your way to pick the most blue ocean image
:^)
>>71592490
I will agree a bit with this. I think they needed a villain at the end for them to fight all together though. 6/10 from me.
Better than Iron Man 2/3, Ultron, and those Hulk movies. Really DCs first attempt and though the didn't nail it like Iron Man 1, they setup their universe well.
DC just needs someone with a bit of charisma like RDjr to get cast.
>>71592591
As a guy who knows nothing about comics, I like that he is a cold sadistic fucker. Makes sense and plays to the narrative of all good people eventually turn bad.
>>71592612
it's true though
>>71592591
It's not even like he was just killing everyone willy nilly, the only people he killed were people that had just tried to kill him or others.
>>71591901
MHYSA! MHYSA!
>>71592632
literally typed 'indian ocean beach' in google. it's the 7th image, all the others look the same
>>71592666
No it really isn't. And even with that in mind the movie is still shit so what exactly is the great point that makes this movie not suck?Martha
>>71590456
Kino Syndrome
>>71590456
Enlightenment
>>71592612
that's not what he's saying though, just that it's easy to misunderstand the film.
I think I was jiggy with BvS when the pearl necklaces breaks because of the gun.
I really liked this film, the UC, and can't wait to rewatch it.
>>71590456
brand loyalty. i'm not even joking
>>71592685
This was such a great fucking moment, like holy shit my dick was diamonds and it'ts not even the best of it, the better part is with Clark's speech to Lois about love and shit and driving that spear through Doomsday
Operatic as fuck
>>71592900
nope
>>71590456
>What is the name of the psychological condition that causes people to pretend that this movie was good?
Hipster syndrome.
When I realised that Snyder could have used The Dark Knight returns as a template like he did with Watchmen. But for some reason he didn't.
And what we got was an example of how not to start your big franchise.
>>71590475
I-It rhymes!!!
>>71590456
What is the name of the psychological condition that causes people to pretend that this movie was bad?
>>71592857
He just replied saying it's true faggot.
>>71593017
and?
Piss jar scene, it made me realize Snyder is literally a crazy person.
>>71593045
It's just hilarious that you niggers actually think this movie was anything more than a shitty "vs" flick. No bible symbolism can change it.
I didn't like Man of Steel, but I liked the UC of BVS.
Really hope they release DC of MoS someday.
>>71593114
okay, you can leave the thread now friend.
>>71590503
This proves that Zack Snyder is a fuckingautist
>>71593135
Nah too much fun watching you guys try to defend this shit heap.
>>71593118
wtf it's not 1967 use your fucking smartphone people
>>71593185
""""fun""""
>>71593118
does Zack Schnyder have autism?
>>71590390
When I was watching Lawrence of Arabia, not that piece of shit.
>>71593118
I teared up about 3 separate times during this movie, this was a great scene
>>71590456
dcuck syndrome
>>71592947
it does
>>71593394
me too, 3 months later and still do in some parts
>>71590456
>12 replies
>not a single post just saying "Autism"
I'm honestly impressed.
>>71590390
When I realized Batman's backstory was only 5 seconds.
>>71593394
>>71593469
>>71593569
is that so
>>71592199
This looks like something out of final fantasy
>>71593611
It's the collapsed World Engine from the previous film
>>71593701
what the fuck are those subs
When the beginning reminded me of the opening to The Dark Knight Rises.
>>71593701
that was a great line actually.
lois is great in MoS and BvS. competent not a mary sue, doesn't take bullshit, still supports her man.
female character done right.
>>71590390
For some reason, the ''Alfred chopping firewood'' scene has really stuck with me, and when I think about BvS that scene immediately comes to mind. Blockbusters don't show moments like that. So simple. atmospheric and beautiful. Also, totally loved Bruce's river house.
>>71593746
she's not female, she have big balls and use mens bathroom. that black army guy said it. don't you fucking watch this movies people?
>>71590842
kino
>DCucks will defend Snyder
>>71592685
It looks like a cheap tv show
>>71590456
Snydeholm Syndrome
>>71593942
TV show outside of pure memery can't hold a 14 second shot that also reflects the narrative (the angle of disorientation turns to clear cut straight shot during the take when Superman becomes one with idea that Earth is his world, is reborn)
>>71593856
You can have a penis and balls and still be a female though
>>71590546
This is some kind of a performance, isn't it? Just someone having a giggle, not some sick individual actually saying these things?
>>71594013
i mean the CGI in that scene is horrible
>>71592685
He looks like he's taking a good, long piss after holding it in for hours.
>>71590777
It was surreal, as if viewed through the memory of the child, now grown.
>>71594056
It's good enough imho. I don't really have the huge issue with CGI that this entire board seems to have.
>>71594026
hmm didn't think of that. sorry, i'm from a country where there are only two genders so i get sometimes confused in this things. but i bet we gonna catch up to usa in couple years
>>71592006
adequately rated post
>>71590390
As soon as Bruce started speaking, I already had some idea. As soon as I saw the title card, it was fucking confirmed.
Snyder thinks Superman is Spider-Man: "With great power comes great responsibility"
Sure, you can explore that with Superman, but since fucking when it's the whole "thesis" of the character?
>>71593976
Simply put, you have a low cinematic IQ, or some sort of Stockholm Syndrome, from overexposure to bland, safe, PC and soulless mass-produced blockbusters, which has conditioned you into accepting the absolute lowest common denominator standards in filmmaking, writing and cinematography as somehow acceptable, when you should in fact feel nothing but contempt or disgust for any Kevin Feige-conceived product.
Even strictly in the field of capeshit entertainment, where the bar has always been pretty low, since they're primarly a children media, the level of genuine quality and creative abilities (which comes from studios giving freedom to an auteur with a strong personality and vision towards the material) has kept dropping since the 90's.
When Raimi's Darkman/Spider-Man, Del Toro's Blade 2/Hellboy, Burton's Batman 2 or Bird's The Incredibles offered innovative and playful set pieces, meaningful and relevant themes, each with a very distinct, appropriate tone and truly cinematic aesthetics (simply compare the lighting or editing to today's equivalents), none of these qualities are to be found in Avengers or any of the previous MCU entries. This is why Edgar Wright got fired from Ant-Man. This is why Feige keeps hiring visionless point-and-shoot directors who come from TV or comedy, colorblind cinematographers and art/set design teams who seem to be in love with grey, sterile hangars for some unexplainable reason. Action scenes are now being conceived by CGI teams months before the movie begins shooting and all follow the exact same formula.
Even as a child, I couldn't imagine being dazzled or amused by those turds, as they're utterly devoid of any charm, colors, magic or imagination.
Cinematography is great for a cape movie, much better than any marvel movie and I say that as someone who like marvel
>>71594418
It might be a fucking joke picture but Whedon or Russo brothers directing (and included cinematography) is some of the dullest and safest shit I've seen
>>71594401
It was explored at a bigger, global scale with Superman.
Spider-Man doesn't feel responsible for the entire world's well-being.
>>71594418
Thanks for my new pasta.
>>71590456
Redditosis
>>71594418
you dropped this
>>71590503
Oh holy crap. Snyder really does love us.
Also, he might have given us one of the greatest baneposts of all time.
>>71591901
Cinematography: something that confuses, frightens, and angers Marvel capefags
>>71592002
I hope this was the song played during that clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oomCIXGzsR0
>>71593820
>>71594670
Gotta hand it to you retards, you've managed to get a brand war for /tv/ can't have a shitty board without dumb faggots taking part in that.
>>71592612
It's not actually 2deep4u. The movie backs its own idea up with almost every bit of exposition.
Batman literally said it
>They taught me the world only makes sense...if you force it to
in reference to them being "dying in the gutter for no reason at all"
Lex literally says it
>No man in the sky came intervened when I was a boy to deliver me from daddy's fist and abominations....if god is all good than he can not be all powerful. And neither can you be.
Superman literally says it
>Why did Dad never leave Kansas
>I've been living my life the way my father saw it. Righting wrongs for a ghost.
I never saw the theatrical cut because of the backlash, but Ipiratedthe UE, then bought it because I liked it so much. I get why you wouldn't like it if you wanted a popcorn flick. It doesn't function as one. It's a Superhero Drama and I fucking loved it.
>>71594751
> for /tv/
almost right. batman v superman is /tv/, marvelshit is lebbit
>>71594539
>getting triggered by stale pasta
>>71594729
i have a feeling Irons insisted on that dumb ass bit so he could have "some input into Alfred's character."
>>71594833
>Le meme text XD
>>71594804
Oh you take part in a board war too. I bet you're a good goy and have a favorite soda brand and beer that you stay loyal to as well.
>>71594751
It's ok
Don't be frightened
I know using the camera beyond generic shooting is something new and scary to you.
There are support groups out there and some colleges have safe spaces if it's difficult to cope.
>>71594795
I just wish there had been more to Wonder Woman. Gal Gadot was quite interesting in her scenes, the little we got.
Probably my favorite capefilm.
>>71594660
It's been three years, and I'm still surprised they put something this brutal in a cape film. But Captain America still has it beat.
>>71594877
>definitely triggered
>>71594795
None of that makes the movie any better at all. And It does nothing special that differentiates it from any other cape shit.
>>71594795
and this
about batman
>Words don't stop a man like that. You know what does? A fist.
>gets stopped by saying a magic word
>>71594887
>I can't make this movie seem good even if I try so I'll throw generic insults at you instead
Pathetic tbhfam
>>71594795
>I never saw the theatrical cut because of the backlash, but I pirated the UE, then bought it because I liked it so much.
Thanks for the tip
I'll buy one copy of Batman v Superman™: Dawn of Justice® Ultimate Edition© right away
>>71590840
DC only has two films, and already they have much more memorable soundtracks than all of the entries in Marvel. I like Marvel films, too, but they seriously lack in memorable themes.
>>71595018
heh, missed that one myself. well i've seen it once. will rewatch once 3d or 4k hits the trackers
>>71595018
Oh the pottery turned me, this movie is a classic.
>>71590456
/v/ syndrome
>>71590840
Such good piece. There's 3-4 songs I like in the extended OST
>>71592152
I suspect quite strongly that color is going to be used to represent "magick" in the DCEU. Through his sacrifice and resurrection, Superman will usher in a "Heroic Age" that elevates a drab, mundane, "realistic" world into one that has room for larger-than-life heroes, gods, and yes, monsters.
He has heeded his father and chosen his world. He has heeded Bruce and forced the world to make sense. He's forced it to make room once more for champions.
I suspect we'll first really start seeing a larger, more lively color palette in The Suicide Squad, and that if I'm right, we'll see it even more fully developed in Wonder Woman, contrasting a drab, grey, war-torn 20th Century with a more vibrant, magical past.
Open your eyes. Look up to the skies and see.
>>71595207
That would actually be brilliant
>>71595207
>Through his sacrifice and resurrection, Superman will usher in a "Heroic Age" that elevates a drab, mundane, "realistic" world into one that has room for larger-than-life heroes
This.
Its going to be beautiful.
>>71595207
You're probably right. That stark contrast was already there in Man of Steel between the Krypton and Earth scenes.
>>71594129
slow motion does not equal surreal
it looked like what would happen if you told a 15 year old to make a "sad" scene where batman's parents die.
>slow motion
>maybe sad music
>pretty much it
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>>71592490
Ladies and gentlemen, I present the pleb.
>Some things made no sense, like the dream sequences
They were visions of a future. Bruce didn't have this context so he interpreted them as nightmares.
>If so how come he does NOTHING about it.
Each time he has one it pushes his paranoia and need to kill Superman.
>The guy screams that Lois 'is the key' and he does nothing with that information.
He says a lot more than that. He sees Bruce's reaction and says "she's the key, find her soon" This line has no context to Bruce at this point. then something glitches withThe Flash?and he says "I'm too soon, you we're always right about him...find us too, you have to find us"
>How they end up stopping was stupid and Doomsday should have been a totally different movie.
What didn't you like? While Batman was doing his thing Superman was doing his thing, they all met in the middle and took out Doomsday which Lex had already created at that point.
>Lex Luther's casting actually went down well with me
Agreed
>I would guess so but don't get the significance of the whole floating dirt thing.
pic related
"And the earth shall give birth to her dead"
A big element of DC comics are that these people are Gods. Superman = Jesus
>>71595312
>slow motion does not equal surreal
good thing slow motion wasn't the only surreal thing about it then.
>>71595067
they drop all attempt at style for some reason. Probably to reduce time in making the movies.
>>71595240
The original death of Superman according to the writers of that comic line was supposed to show world without one of its greatest heroes, backlash against 90s gritty grimdark comics´, to get rid the world of its big hero.
The intent and effect of Superman dying in BvS is complete opposite. It both shows sympathy Superman had for Earth, and sympathy earth's people have (now) towards Superman while also inspiring Bruce and Diane to find other metahumans. It is not done out of pettiness (by writers), it is done to show the 'greatness' of these superheroes (the monument scene)
It's no fucking stretch.
>>71593394
>>71593469
You guys are not alone.
>>71595463
these two had some seriously gay vibes
>>71593939
The Batman would so totally do that, though. Friend or foe, the man is all about being prepared for anything.
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>>71594971
>And It does nothing special that differentiates it from any other cape shit.
Then you have a low cineIQ
Pic related was easy enough to catch on the first watch
Previously in the movie when he was talking to senator granny piss he says the picture should be upside down. Then you flip it upside down and it's superman with the spear saving earth. It's pottery man.
>What's the oldest lie on /tv/, Anon?
That CIA behaving awkwardly wasn't intentional.
The entire point of the movie is to show that the Memes belongs to no one and everyone at the same time. This is the historical baggage that Nolan is aware these characters carry: An endless barrage of neets and meme lore since the 90's, comparison to other iconic memes, and everyone thinking they have the last word on how these meme should be used.
Bane is Moby Dick, Zarathrusta, Ernest Defarge, Zorro, Crossbones, The Mask, the Classic Big Guy/Masked man/Villain.
CIA is Ahab, Captain America, Howard Hughes, Charles Foster Kane, William Wilson, Javert, Paul the Apostle, the tortured lawful man seeking to catch his prize.
Barsad is a Deadshot, a mosquito, Jason Bourne, Bob Lee Swagger, Artemis, the one that hits the spot..
The plane is a NASA shuttle, a nest, Snake's on a Plane aircraft, Ahab's Pequod, Zorro's Tornado, Quixote's Rozinante.
There are many comparisons with TDK too. For instance, the opening scene culminates in Bane leaving one of his hired guns in the wreckage, while in TDK the Joker kills his hired guns. The Gotham football team's uniform is the same color in both films. Both opening scenes are to show how menacing and thinkful the villains are.
It's a deconstruction and analysis of the characters themselves.
>>71595018
Don't forget that he tried to talk to him first when he landed but realized that he was gonna have to beat him up like she said.
>>71595567
The main theme of Snyder's "Batman v Superman" on spiritual dematerialism is not eschatological, but a phenomenological ontology. Thus he implies that we have to choose between predialectic construction and deconstructivist neodialectic theory, essentially Heideggerian as seen in the concept of Dasein. The subject is interpolated then into a cinematic dematerialism that includes spirituality as a whole. But if the Kierkegaardian worldview holds, we have to choose between the cultural paradigm of expression and atomism. In Snyder's own "Man of Steel" he has a character says that "the world's too big”. Inherent in this is how the function of Lebenswelt (cinematically translated by Snyder as "world of life") operates in all his films, chiefly in "Sucker Punch" and "300". We see a phenomenological approach to the world showing a cinematic logic that presupposes a strucutral constraint in rootedness, another intentionality central to his filmography and philosophy. Because "metaphysical comfort" is not an object of temporality per se, but rather an aspect of automatic condition, as suggested by Cavell. Hermeneutic interpretations are also apparent in his post-"Watchmen" movies; in fact the interchangeable subjectivities are but another representation of Husserl's and Wittgenstein's "form of life". As his academic hero Heidegger succintly noted, "freedom is the ‘abyss’ of Dasein, its groundless or absent ground". This is essentially the thesis operating in Snyder's films.
>>71595207
Bravo Snyder.
DC is playing the long game
When we look back on the great comic book movie wars DC will be the victor.
>>71595567
kek
well played
>>71595612
“Art is intrinsically meaningless,” says Ben Affleck. The primary theme of BvS' analysis of Sontagist camp is a mythopoetical totality. The characteristic theme of the works of Snyder is the common ground between society and language. But the premise of dialectic superheroism holds that the establishment is capable of social comment. The subject is interpolated into a social realism that includes narrativity as a whole.
“Society is unattainable,” says Kal-El. It could be said that Luthor uses the term ‘neomaterial desituationism’ to denote not sublimation, but presublimation. If social realism holds, the works of Snyder are an example
of purposeful superhero movies, also known as "capekino."
In a sense, Marveldrones promote the use of postdeconstructive objectivism to attack capekino. The subject is contextualised into a neomaterial desituationism that includes reality as a reality.
But dialectic superheroism suggests that culture serves to entrench outmoded, elitist perceptions of capeshit. Terrio uses the term ‘neomaterial desituationism’ to denote a self-supporting totality.
>>71595207
Doesn't suicide squad take place before BvS though?
>>71595564
Are you trolling? How does that fix the terrible plot? The bad acting? Simple shit like this makes you think a movie is good?
>>71595550
That wouldn't make sense though since the only bit of Kryptonite showed up in BvS and bruce had to steal it from Lex.
>>71595676
No its directly after BvS but the Batman scenes will probably be set in the past.
>>71595644
>somebody took time to either write this b8, or seriously believes it.
>>71595678
>the terrible plot
In my previous posts I already pointed out how the plot is actually great and the general audience misunderstood it.
>The bad acting
The good acting?apply more effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYr0U8lY7U0
is the ost growing on anyone else?the lex luthor theme beginning is the superman theme but notes reversed each bar
Cavill was the only one that can't act and even he had powerful scenes (the speech before he drives the spear through Doomsday)
>>71595612
>>71595669
This is some absurd pasta but after I looked up all the words I didn't understand I've realized its true.
>>71595813
>Superman talking about his "world"
>Snyder had finally done the impossible and made Superman a decent character
>>71595726
Very weak defense. It's gonna take more than pottery to turn people's opinion on this turd. But of course they're just too dumb to get it unlike you.
I bet you appreciate the work of Sasha grey
>>71595876
>image.jpg
>>71595567
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0dRIqLgkNfY
>>71595644
Snyder is a modern Kubrick
>mfw plebs think this is satire
>>71595792
>luthor theme beginning is the superman theme but notes reversed each bar
>>71595792
>the lex luthor theme beginning is the superman theme but notes reversed each bar
>>71595933
not defending that either
>renaming your images to image.jpg like an autist
>>71590390
I just finished watching ultimate edition and its just not good. There are some redeeming qualities, but script is shite, dialog is shite, unfortunately even fights werent as good as I hoped and even I could deliver lines better than Gadot did.
5,1/10 imo. 0,1 because there still might be some potential.
>>71595680
What I'm saying is that the idea of Bruce with kryptonite is the kernel around which the rest of the plot grew. Whether he had to steal it or not, there was absolutely no way that Bruce would forego having access to such a "magic bullet," even if it was a purely precautionary measure.
>>71595792
This song is probably my favorite, that might be because the scene where it plays is my favorite or second favorite scene of the film
>>71595929
I was floored when I realized that, too.
>>71595792
Luthor's theme is just so fucking great. Reminds me of Faust.
>>71595207
>tfw DCucks are already damage controlling the jarring tonal shift that will happen because of the BvS backlash
Enjoy your quipfest worse than Age of Ultron
>>71596212
Under what name is Lex's theme in the OST? >>71596104
>>71596236
No. 3
>>71596236
>>71596104
The Rad Capes Are Coming
>the thing they like most about the movie is the soundtrack
>>71596216
we've known that was happening for quite a while though
>>71595567
Dr. Luthor. I'm DCEU.
>>71596298
>image.jpg
>>71596319
CM-A?
>>71596298
who said that?
but yes, the soundtrack is great too
>>71596310
>>71596322
dont reply. Were here talking what we like and he is spending his time going on and on about brand wars
>>71590456
Aging
>>71595792
>>71596212
The pizzicato strings and staccato piano are also very evocative of clockworks, careful and precise machinations. Great stuff.
>>71596310
That's why they hired the guy who made this to be the cinematographer, right?
It was going to be colorful all along!
>>71596310
It was damage control, but it might be for the best, I guess.
>>71596339
4U CIA
>>71596381
Also
>Wonder Woman's costume is going to be more red because it's the blood of her victims
The heroic age indeed!
6/10 movie.
Ultimate Edition improves the investigation subplot, but is overall pretty bloated and unengaging, not to mention there's extreme leaps of logic.
But I'm happy some people enjoyed it, at least.
>>71596339
He's formed the Power Stance, you fool! Nothing can stop him now!
>>71596381
are you retarded?
>>71596397
>>71596310
From what they've mentioned so far, I just hope they dial back on Barry's WHOA DUDE NEATO COMPLETO I NEED FRIENDS I'M SO WITTY bullshit.
Motherfucker sounds like Sonic Team wrote his dialogue.
>>71594971
>three dimensional characters don't make a movie better
>>71596459
What? There has been so little of Flash how can you even estimate from what we've seen, anything?
In the time travel part he was just panicking clearly.
>>71596216
We've known for quite some time, and what they're doing is pretty cool and makes sense. Looks like someone else is damage controlling.
Justice League was always meant to have a lighter tone. Chris Terrio explains it.
>At that moment, I thought, “I’m not done with this yet. I want to go back and keep telling the story.” “Batman v Superman” is a bit of an “Empire Strikes Back” or “Two Towers” or any similar middle film in a trilogy. The middle film tends to be the darkest one. I do think from “Man of Steel” through “Justice League,” it is one saga really.
>I expect “Justice League” will be tonally not quite as dark as “Batman v Superman.” From that point of view, I felt compelled to go back and try to lift us and myself into a different tonal place because I think when you write a darker film, sometimes you want to redeem it all a bit.
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/03/11/inside-chris-terrios-vision-for-batman-superman-and-justice-league/
>>71596496
He's talking about the scene description from the set visit of JL, where Flash says 3 quips per second
>>71595331
Superman (Christianity)
Batman (Islam)
Wonder Woman (Judaism)
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>>71596459
They won't.
I mean, it's already been reported they picked Rick Famuyiga to direct the solo movie because he can appeal to modern youths and work with the script they already have.
They're going all the way.
>>71596512
Their "lighter tone" = Man of Steel
Snyder has NEVER done a light movie. His "lighter" movies are still edgy teenager bullshit like Sucker Punch.
>>71596496
http://www.slashfilm.com/justice-league-set-visit/2/
Try to keep up
>The scene follows Ezra Miller as Barry Allen, entering an abandoned brick building with lots of colorful graffiti which he has co-opted for his home. He turns on the power and his apartment lights up with tons of computer monitors all over the place. The light reveals Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne sitting in a chair.
>“Barry Allen, Bruce Wayne.”
>“You said that like it explains why there’s a total stranger in my place sitting in my second favorite chair,” quips Allen.
>“Tell me about this…” Wayne presents Allen a printout showing the security footage of Allen which was retrieved from Lex Luthor’s hard drive in Batman v Superman. Allen looks at the paper incredulously.
>“This is… uhh… a person who looks exactly like me but is definitely not me. Somebody, hippy, long hair. Very attractive Jewish boy… who drinks milk. I don’t drink milk.”
>Wayne is not amused. “I know you have abilities, I just don’t know what they are…”
>Allen quips, “My special skills include viola, web design, fluent in sign language, gorilla sign language…”
>Wayne has stopped listening and is admiring Allen’s prototype Flash costume which is in the middle of the room.
>Looking closer at the Flash suit, Wayne notices its made of “silicon base and quartz fabric, heat resistant.”
>Allen tries to explain what the superhero costume is for: “Yeah, I also do ice dancing.”
>“They use it on the space shuttle to keep it from burning up on reentry,” comments Wayne.
>Barry responds that the suit is for “very competitive ice dancing.” Barry turns and continues, “Look man, I don’t know who you are but whoever you’re looking for is not me.”
>>71596573
My bad, I forgout about the owl movie, which is another matter entirely and still not really a light movie
>>71596512
>One week before release, when the movie was already receiving negative feedback
How convenient.
Months prior Snyder and Affleck couldn't stop talking about how DC movies are more "stepped in realism", "mythological" and inherently "less glib" than Marvel movies.
>>71596481
>three dimensional
>batman the only one to have any real depth and an arc.
>still an inept detective
>>71596535
>This pleb.
kys.
>>71595792
>the lex luthor theme beginning is the superman theme but notes reversed each bar
HOLY FUCK
ABSOLUTE TURBOKINO COMPLETELY CONFIRMED
>>71594857
>>71594729
That scene suggests that alfred is more like "independent man"
"Classic man" "made the old fashioned way".
I like that part.
>While Barry is turned, Bruce Wayne takes the opening to chuck a Batarang at the young superhero. Almost instantly time slows down and we are engulfed into Barry Allen’s world of slow-motion as he dodges the incoming weapon and notices that it’s a metal throwing star in the form of the Batman logo. He reaches out and grabs it, catching it.
>We transition into real time as Barry looks at Bruce, “You’re the Batman?
>Bruce now understands, “So you’re fast?”
>Barry remarks, “That feels like an over simplification.”
>Bruce is not amused, so he gets to the point: “I’m putting together a team, people with special abilities. You see, I believe enemies are coming…”
>Allen interrupts him, “Stop right there, I’m in!”
>Wayne surprised, “Just like that?”
>“Yeah,” responds Allen, taking a few seconds to admit, “I need friends.”
>“Great,” says Wayne relieved.
>Barry still looking at the Batarang, “Can I keep this?”
>After screening us the Bruce Wayne/Barry Allen meeting scene, Zack Snyder explains that he chose that scene for us because “it shows a little bit about what Ezra brings to the movie.”
I mean there's good stuff in there but trim the fat
>>71596573
>Their "lighter tone" = Man of Steel
how do you figure that?
>Snyder has NEVER done a light movie
wat
>>71590390
When I found out Zack Snyder was the director.
>>71596602
LOTG shows he can pull of colorful and way different cinematography (yes, director has input on cinematography).
Consider the tone of Superman dying in BvS, it is easy to see happen (the age of heroes, more colorful and positive film)
>>71596626
>>71596573
>>71596626
>the lightest movie Snyder can make
>still a somewhat grimdark take on fantasy
kek
>>71596608
>damage control
>>71596682
what the fuck does grimdark mean in your eyes?
>>71596638
I dont mind that 2bh. I know fuck all on comics and it seemed to me like the flash would be the one superhero who would probably crack jokes
>>71596682
>Grimdark
>LOTG
Please watch it first before commenting.
Abercrombie's novels are grimdark, LOTG is far from it
Where do I start with comics that influenced Snyder's Superman films and the upcoming Justice League?
I think the only DC-Marvel comic I've read is Watchmen years ago.
>>71596419
>Wilkinson explained to Comicbook.com and other press during a Justice League set visit. "We did a slight tweaking of the color too, we've enriched the red a little bit. We always talk about centuries of congealed blood from her victims on the dress, so we really went for that really rich blood red on the dress.
They are slipping up on their lies
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