What are your thoughts on the fair and balanced reporting of Current Year man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEALC1z3QG8
>>71548154
I just find it so crazy that guys like him keep blaming shit like the Daily Mail for all this liberal backlash when it's guys like him doing the most damage
Best of the Stewart/Colbert children imo. Trevor Noah is okay but his correspondents besides Jessica Williams are awful, and now Jessica Williams is gone so there's literally no reason to watch it. Larry Wilmore isn't funny whatsoever.
>>71548193
He's a political satire comedy show host.
The Mail is a news paper you fucking idiot.
>>71548562
And? Are you implying satire/comedy isn't influential?
>>71548562
The libs think this is real journalism. It's Stewart's fault. He's the one that started pretending his show was a real news outlet. Dip shit millennials bought it hook, line, and sinker.
>>71548657
I was under the impression the Stweart had said a few times he despaired over the fact people believe he was considered a reliable news outlet as opposed to someone making jokes about the news with a left-wing bias.
>>71548154
Yawn desu
For someone who was apparently influenced by stuff like 'On The Hour' and 'The Day Today' he sure doesn't seem to get what made those shows funny.
>>71548622
There's a difference between reporting news (i.e. giving people information about current events) and commenting on news other people have reported.
John Oliver doesn't "report" anything. He takes information other outlets have reported and makes a skit about it.
>>71548736
He can despair it all he wants, doesn't change that's how people saw his show.
>>71548905
that may serve as an excuse to being stupidly biased but doesn't make it right
>>71548736
Yep I remember him saying that a couple times
>>71548154
The editors put the 'punchable face' label over the wrong dude again.
>>71548562
Have you ever seen this garbage? It's blatant propaganda with a laugh track. At the very best, it pretends to be comedy.
He's a cuck. He lost the debate and the vote and just like a child can only resort to insults. Maybe it will make him feel better but it won't change anything.
>>71548905
>>71548905
you're a moron, his show is important because it's long format news. I don't think people realize how difficult and important it is to be able to spend 20 minutes talking to your audience about a single issue so that they can actually learn the details and not just buzzword sound bites. he has to be silly to get people to pay attention for so long, it's a good thing
>>71548154
>ad hominem
>ad hominem
>unfunny analogy
>ad hominem
gosh, what deep and insightful commentary
>>71548989
Anyone can give their opinion on something they are vaguely familiar with. John Oliver does just that and he does it in a way that isn't funny and that only looks at half of the argument.
He deserves to be in jail in my opinion
>>71549041
This,I don't watch leftist cancer. Send that faggot back where he came from,preferably in a box.
>>71549073
will you at least put an air hole in the box?
>>71548154
>Its 2016 and governments still allow the people to vote, come on people.
>>71548154
That you're a retard.
He's a fucking comedian not a reporter. Regardless of of we agree with his views or not he isn't required to make a fair and balanced report because he isn't a fucking news reporter. He's a political satarist you mongoloid.
>>71549468
YOU ALL LAUGHED AT ME
>>71549178
>He's a fucking comedian not a reporter.
How convenient.
>John Oliver claming other people have a punchable face
kek you can clearly tell he's projecting and angry
I bet countless people have told him he has a punchable face
I bet he's even been punched in the face before.
Just look at him.
>>71548989
>so that they can actually learn the details
He's just a propaganda artist that insults people and stretches the truth. He's fucking cancer.
>it's a good thing
>people being brainwashed to support the corporate status quo is a good thing
Kill Your Self.
>>71549541
Yes, how convenient.
How convenient that in a fucking democracy, he is allowed free speech.
Or are you suggesting that censorship is fine so long as it only censors the opposition?
>>71549541
Yes, and?
>>71549120
I'll think about it.
>>71549599
He's a comedian. He's political satire.
He's not fucking propaganda, he's a fucking piece of entertainment for folk who already agree with him.
>>71549609
>>71549615
All this gigantic piece of shit does is spew his incredibly wrong authoritarian opinions on youtube for 20 minutes at a time.
He lies constantly, says strawman arguments and is extremely unfunny.
>>71549635
>He's a comedian. He's political satire.
What does this have to do with anything?
You think people can't criticize him because he's a "comedian"?
>He's not fucking propaganda
YES YES it is propaganda, he's propagating his views and manipulating people by lying to them.
>>71549635
>He's not fucking propaganda
I want buttblasted conservafriends to give 3 examples of Oliver being factually incorrect.
>>71549671
Sounds like you're triggered, do you need a safe space anon?
>>71549671
>Opinions
Yeah, free speech in a democracy how terrible.
You can be critical, sure. But you're criticizing him as a news outlet. He isn't and doesn't claim to be.
And he's not manipulating anyone, he's just conformation bias for those who already agree with him. He's not remotely as important as you think.
>>71549635
>fucking fuck fuck I'm British LOL (((current year)))
Go home Oliver. Everyone with an IQ over 60 sees through your well funded propaganda disguised as "comedy".
>>71549700
>no argument
welp it looks like I win again
:^)
>>71549687
That's hard because he practically never mentions anything factual
>>71549713
>But you're criticizing him as a news outlet.
Nope
>>71549720
>I win
Congratulations!
>>71549719
I'd like to believe you're just pretending to be so upset over political satire. I really would.
>>71549713
>Yeah, free speech in a democracy how terrible.
Nobody is saying free speech is bad.
What the fuck are you talking about you delusional brainwashed oliver lover?
>But you're criticizing him as a news outlet. He isn't and doesn't claim to be.
HOLY FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID
You're saying you can't criticize his absolutely insane authoritarian beliefs because he's a "comedian"?
>And he's not manipulating anyone
Yes, yes he fucking is. He has nothing but strawman arguments and insults.
That's ALL it fucking is.
You're a brainwashed cuck for enjoying him.
>>71549635
>he's a fucking piece of entertainment for folk who already agree with him.
that's literally a form of propaganda
i could give him a pass if at least he was funny
>>71549760
>If I don't say fuck this time maybe I can pretend to be the calm one.
>>71549760
>you can't criticize him because it's "political satire"
lol
Why do you keep spamming these non-arguments in this thread?
>>71549687
How can we give examples of him being factually incorrect when all he says are emotional appeals and insults?
someone should shop Oliver's face onto the PUNCHABLE FACE magazine in his video.
I don't know anything about the politician depicted, but John Oliver is far more punch-able based on physical appearance alone.
>>71549687
>I enjoy the humor of john oliver
>he's witty and on point
The r e d d i t invasion is real.
>>71549635
>He's not fucking propaganda
There but for the grace of God go my sides...
>>71549742
Oh wow, what a great post. I'm so glad you provided such a through response.
If you aren't treating him as a news outlet then he represents no issue whatsoever. Its a comedy show, a comedy show with a political theme.
If arguments for an ideology can't survive a comedian, perhaps they need to be strengthened.
>>71549791
>but John Oliver is far more punch-able based on physical appearance alone
John Oliver was just projecting, you can clearly tell.
>>71548154
I usually like him but he's barking up the wrong tree with the Brexit issue.
Comparing Leave voters to pro-trump and making out it's racist. Come on.
I voted out. We already have a government the we elected. The EU government is a beurocracy and it has no place making laws for us and makes a mockery of our democracy,
>>71548154
I thought it started great and funny. Now it's absolute cringe and milennial sjw pandering.
The early segments, were it wasn't that much about politics actually were quite interesting (infrastructure, chicken farms, cigarettes in southeast asia...), but whenever it's about hard politics it's just memes. bad bad memes.
>4chan politics discussion
Stop this meme. They always suck. In /pol/ it's either a shill or a non-shill, outside of /pol/ it's always retards from /b/ that don't know how to debate.
I can't take anything he says seriously after his lies about the trayvon Zimmerman case
>>71549822
>Its a comedy show,
An extremely unfunny one.
>a comedy show with a political theme.
Yes and he intends to persuade people politically by yelling out dumb strawman arguments and insulting people. His brand of authoritarianism is poisonous.
We're criticizing him for this.
Why is this so difficult for your brain to understand?
>>71549767
You are literally advocating censorship of a comedy show because you disagree with him.
And no, I'm not a fan of his.
>>71549787
That's a strawman sir, I'm saying that your criticisms are based on him being "factual" but that's irrelevant to comedy.
>>71548989
ever hear of 60 minutes? or Frontline?
Of course not, underage b& verified.
>>71549862
>You are literally advocating censorship of a comedy show
Have you even read a single post in this thread.
We're criticizing and calling him an unfunny authoritarian cuck with terrible opinions.
Not saying he should be banned. NOBODY said that.
Jesus christ you fucking retard.
>>71549862
>I'm saying that your criticisms are based on him being "factual" but that's irrelevant to comedy.
We're criticizing his political arguments he makes in his show, NOT his unfunny comedy.
What do you say now?
>>71549858
>Persuade
Here's where I disagree.
He isn't persuading anyone, he's just talking to folk who already agree with him.
I literally don't care if people who already agree with him continue to agree.
And if he's factually incorrect, if he's wrong, then it should be easy to argue against him. You either treat him as the non entity he is or else give up on your beliefs because you can't articulate them better than a comedian.
>>71549862
saying you shouldnt watch something and saying you cant arent the same thing kiddo
>>71549722
>>71549789
>>71549809
Many here have called him a liar. Lo and behold, no one can back it up.
You're all idiots. Think before you type.
>>71549909
>He isn't persuading anyone
Yes he is. That's the point of his show.
You have to be the dumbest poster I've ever argued with.
>then it should be easy to argue against him
No it's not, he's a raging manbaby that insults people and strawman's them.
People who criticize him don't have an audience against him. You think you could have an audience in the youtube comment section on his videos?
>You either treat him as the non entity he is
But millions of idiots support him. It's not like we can simply ignore him, like we ignore some idiot's 4chan shitpost.
>>71549862
>censorship
holy shit no one knows what this word means anymore.
Saying you don't like something is not censorship.
Censorship is when you intervene and prevent something from being expressed or communicated between people.
>>71549932
Why should I see that post?
It doesn't refute what I said.
he's literally hitler at this point
>>71549928
Okay. He's claimed millions of muslims coming to Europe is a good thing. Where's the evidence to back THAT up?
>>71549928
He lied at worst, misrepresented at best the trayvon martin case and the events that happened
>>71549928
Here's some things he lied about in his trump segment.
https://www.red dit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/48fp8q/the_definitive_guide_as_to_why_john_olivers/
>>71549947
If your arguments are better, they should win the day.
If he is lying to millions, you should be able to convince people of that.
All I'm seeing is someone who has given up on trying to convince others their views are correct and so they retreat to a safe space online.
You are the epitome of a keyboard warrior who has never actually done anything to further the cause of the right and you actually serve the interests of people like Stewart by making us all look stupid.
Don't attack the man, that's a fools errand. Educate his audience. Else shut the fuck up and stop pretending you're part of the solution.
In case you were wondering, we are finished. I hope you have a long think about your priorities.
>>71548736
He never seemed to hesitate to take advantage of his position though. I keep hearing all this talk about how he might come back to TV to "save the election". That thought in itself is scary, that people are so susceptible to media influence, that some basic cable funnyman is all it takes to turn the tides of political elections.
>>71550016
>In case you were wondering, we are finished.
He knows. He also derives too much satisfaction from the idea of belonging to a specially enlightened "redpilled" minority to want anything else.
>>71549991
>John Oliver lied about Trump
>source: the Donald Trump circlejerk
>>71549928
https://youtu.be/lF2u05TSGKc
>the police explicitly told him not to follow trayvon
Didn't happen
Was told "we don't need you to do that"
That's not a order
>ignore that
Didn't happen
https://youtu.be/lF2u05TSGKc
>>71550016
>If your arguments are better, they should win the day.
They would win the day, easily.
If I had a multi-million dollar television show through viacom.
What is your point?
>you should be able to convince people of that.
I am, and do.
What is your point?
>You are the epitome of a keyboard warrior who has never actually done anything to further the cause of the right
lmao what the fuck CAN I do?
I vote. I try to convince people to change their beliefs and become right wing?
What do you expect me to do? Run for office?
What is your point?
>>71549947
>he's a raging manbaby that insults people and strawman's them.
that's only ok when I do it! no tears now anon only dreams
>>71549975
When and where?
>>71549977
Is that from TDS segment? None of what he says is factually incorrect.
>>71550062
He didn't ignore that advice
He lost track of trayvon because he did stop
>keep following him
Didn't happen
Pic related
>he shot him because he was scared
No he shot him because he was getting his ass kicked and feared for his life
>>71550048
>>71550016
>this extremely obvious samefagging
god damn you're pathetic
You're the only person defending oliver ITT
>>71549041
>unfunny analogy
My roommate uses my HBO subscription to watch current year man, and I've only seen an episode or two, but it seems like that's all his "jokes" are.
>>71550080
Yes
>>71550087
>>71550062
Except it was false
>>71550078
>They would win the day, easily.
>If I had a multi-million dollar television show through viacom.
They wouldn't, anon. The spectacle of you bleating and squawking and the effect it'd have hardly bears thinking about.
>>71550050
Where else do you expect it to come from? A Hillary subreddit?
I just showed you examples of him lying and stretching the truth.
In fact 3 anons gave you different examples of him LYING.
We just proved you wrong.
What do you do now?
>>71550092
Sucks to be you, guy.
>>71550050
not an argument.
>>71550078
>I need a multi million dollar show
You need a spine and to stop pretending you're making a difference amongst these fucking ironic role players. Leave the safe space and become a part of an active party a real campaign. Or just keep crying about how life is unfair and that comedians trigger you. We don't need support from fucking worthless shits like you.
>>71550112
>The spectacle of you bleating and squawking
You can almost taste the projection from here.
Did you even have an argument in the first place?
What a fucking embarrassment you are.
>>71550116
>3 anons gave you different examples of him LYING.
IT'S HAPPENING
11 percent kek
>>71550131
>he thinks that proves anything
You're still a samefag lmao
>>71550131
>that font rendering
Always nice to see a reminder of how retarded the posters of /tv/ are so I don't get too mad.
>>71550079
>getting triggered by trump
lmao you can taste the asspain from here
>>71550141
>You can almost taste the projection from here.
I guess in your position you don't have much choice.
>>71550151
>>71550181
>get BTFO
>project and shitpost angrily instead
>>71550180
>getting triggered by Oliver
You suck at this.
>>71550139
>You need a spine and to stop pretending you're making a difference amongst these fucking ironic role players.
Your whole argument is, since you don't have a gigantic viacom show, you shouldn't even SPEAK about john oliver because you're unworthy.
How many fedoras are you wearing right now?
>We don't need support from fucking worthless shits like you.
AHAHAHAHAHA
>I'm on the right wing guise
>trust me
Holy fuck!
/pol/ got absolutely blown the fuck out in this thread. I don't know what to think anymore.
>>71550189
>get BTFO
>project and shitpost angrily instead
It's challengingly and ironically different when you do the same thing first, right?
>>71549045
>people who disagree with me should be locked up
good to see the standard of political thought on this website is strong as ever
>>71550197
>STOP MAKING FUN OF LE 2016 MAN
kek why are you even on this website if the vast majority of it's posters think you're a retard?
>>71550211
>That reading comprehension
We also don't need people as thick as niggers.
>>71550213
/pol/ is how it feels to be lonely
/pol/ is how it feels to be small
/pol/ is how it feels when your word means nothing at all
nothing at all
>>71550213
wtf I hate /pol/ now
really makes you think
I am now a #SHILL4HILL
>>71549713
He performs the exact same role as a news outlet. Literally the only difference is that he gives his opinion and has a laugh track.
The problem people have with him is that the comedy label is dishonest; his show should be classified as political commentary
>>71550233
You're trying too hard.
>>71548154
its funny because how butthurt he makes the right wing extremists
>>71548154
Fabulous thread, you fucking cuckolds.
>>71550215
>>71550235
>claim john oliver is a god and never lies about anything
>3 anons post examples of him lying in 3 different episodes:
>>71549975
>>71549977
>>71549991
>get btfo
>shitpost angrily
How does this make you feel?
>>71548154
I just want him to have a painful terminal disease. Is that so much to ask of the universe?
>>71550287
>claim john oliver is a god
Where?
>>71550272
You can taste the delicious libtard asspain from here.
I feel a bit sorry for America, at least we could agree about Piers Morgan being a hack piece of shit, but John Oliver is literally who tier in Britain.
I have no idea how he got on TV unless Leibowitz just spotted a useful tool for his retirement.
>>71550277
>Extremists
Hardly.
Half of them here are contrarian roleplaying and the other half are just idiots who think stroking their keys and egos makes a difference. They contribute nothing to the solution.
>>71550291
well he's already British so i cant imagine it can get much worse
John Oliver is my most hated tv personality
itt:
>alt right turds who spend their entire lives defending free speech and their right to post le happy merchant on the internet get triggered because someone they disagree with exercised his right to free speech
christ guys take a step back and actually look at how retarded you're being
current year man is sometimes funny, often not. sometimes he has some fair points, sometimes he talks crap.
it's hilarious how similar to a feminist safe space this site has become - except just for anti-progressive types. turns out horseshoe theory was completely fucking correct.
>>71550352
I'm British you stupid cunt, I despise him more than you Americans ever can because of how he shits on our image internationally.
Fuck you. Every time I feel like I can almost like America a shitheel like you kills that feeling stone dead.
>>71550374
>alt right turds
Someone's a little asspained.
>get triggered because someone they disagree with exercised his right to free speech
Nobody is saying he should have his free speech taken away.
You're making shit up, are you John Oliver?
>current year man is sometimes funny
LMAO
>>71550374
I guess pointing out he's a lying faggot means I'm no better than a sjw
>>71550062
>>71550087
Wow I hate the right wing now
>>71550380
>how he shits on our image
I think half the population just did a good job of that
>>71550400
He's 100% right about this being a safe space for Trumplerinas.
>>71550367
Samantha Bee
>>71550416
No, (you) are not.
>>71550418
This.
Amazing how deceptive she has been to the audience
>>71550287
>he thinks it's the same person replying to him every time
>>71549928
>>71549687
I remember that he made fun of cold war information videos that advised people that if nuclear explosion happens, covering yourself with a blanket is better than nothing. He claimed that its a nonsense that wont help a bit.
In real life, things as seemingly insignificant as colour of your clothes can greatly affec the degree of damage your body can suffer (pic related) A fucking blanket can be the difference between life and death.
just an example that he's wrong on non-political stuff too
>>71550418
>watch her show on youtube
>brexit supporters are islamaphobic
>turn off immediately
Imagine if during the middle ages the catholic church called anyone who was against the church "christophobic".
>>71550416
not trumpets?
loud and cant do much by themselves
>>71550418
>>71550455
These unfunny as fuck Jon Stewart clones are trained to lie.
>>71550400
>>71550410
literally one of the first posts in the thread said "he deserves to be in jail"
Now i have literally no problem with people criticizing him. I find him kinda nauseating to be honest - it's blatantly obvious that he wasn't a funny enough comedian for britain so he came to america to make the "LOL i'm british so quirkY!" joke time after time
so like yeah i have no problem with people thinking he's shit but it's pathetic when people literally suggest he should be banned from speaking because he doesnt agree with muh enlightend alt right philosophy
>>71550525
>literally one of the first posts in the thread said "he deserves to be in jail"
That was one anon, and he was joking.
Great post anon, great post.
>>71550525
Why'd you quote me in your post
I never said shit about locking him up just that he's a buck toothed lying faggot >>71550410
>>71550463
i mean they did
they called them heretics or apostates and then they burned them
>>71550550
>Anyone can give their opinion on something they are vaguely familiar with. John Oliver does just that and he does it in a way that isn't funny and that only looks at half of the argument.
>He deserves to be in jail in my opinion
honestly if that's a joke then the poster has got to be autistic because that's the most bizarre attempt at humour I've seen this week
>>71550048
>minority
Laffin at u
>ugh stupid right wing nationalists thinking they have a chance to take over MY UTOPIA
Maybe after 8 years of Trump you'll realize how autistic you sound saying this
>>71550600
>that's the most bizarre attempt at humour I've seen this week
So you're saying you missed Oliver's show this week
>>71549947
>You have to be the dumbest poster I've ever argued with.
You've argued with many people on the internet, my friend? That's a nice hobby you got there :^)
>>71548154
jesus christ he's insufferable
and is this shit really thought of as journalism?
>>71548154
He's right though.
Leave leaders are already backpedaling on just about every claim they championed about what a Brexit would entail.
It's not even going to stop immigration because the EU already made it clear that free movement of workers would be a necessary prerequisite of entering the single market.
Brits were already independent and basically thumbing their nose to the EU at every turn while getting all the benefits of being in the union.
They effectively opted out of a system that was already egregiously in their favor.
Any deal they get at this point will be ostensibly inferior to the arrangement they previously had.
He's a commentator, not a reporter so of course he's biased.
Same as commentators in newspapers, on shows etc.
I don't get people's issue about that - he's not a journalist.
>I can't believe leftists get their news from this comedian entertainer
>reactionary youtubers and /pol/ are a much more objectively source for news
>>71548154
His show is good for introducing lesser known issues to the audience. But as soon as there's an issue that requires nuanced treatment, everything goes to shit, because the whole style of his show is to pretend it's ridiculous that anyone could draw a different conclusion.
His treatment of the immigration issue as "obviously we have to let everyone in!" was a travesty. I sure as fuck will not watch the one on Brexit.
>>71549787
Are you Muslim?
>>71548562
>He's a political satire comedy show host.
which does nothing but political propaganda and isnt funny
and yes the leftist mainstream is the biggest contributor to the rising of the right all across the western world. Be it comedians, newspapers, politicians or celebrities, they all got the same non-arguments and arrogant attitude people are sick and tired off.
>>71550993
Now they can actually form trade deals with other countries though.
>>71551094
>reactionary
>HURRR I'M A SOCIALIST LISTEN TO MY IDEAS AND OPINIONS
Just get off the board you waste.
You might as well call us "sinners".
>>71550993
>It's not even going to stop immigration because the EU already made it clear that free movement of workers would be a necessary prerequisite of entering the single market.
Britain did not sing the Schengen agreement and was not part "EU open borders for people thingy" so I don't even realize why this was even an issue in the whole brexit shit.
>>71551190
I definitely think he could've broken down the arguments of the other side better and why they were voting. He's still right about Britain being stronger in than out though. There are a lot of factors to consider but it was effectively a watershed moment where Britain may ultimately find itself more isolated than it's ever been in a world of mass communication and transnational connectivity.
And people who felt left behind before are going to be even more hung out to dry.
i dont really give a shit about John Oliver, the main problem is the fucking audience clapping on comand, eating up everything he says as facts.
>>71551330
>He's still right about Britain being stronger in than out though.
No he's not.
DICTATORSHIPS and AUTHORITARIANISM are NOT good things, no matter how hard John Oliver shills for them.
Fuck the EU and fuck unelected bureaucrats.
Britain can actually form trade deals with other countries now. They're going to be much better off.
>>71551240
Maybe, but Europe is still closer and sports the largest economy collectively. Logistically, it makes sense to be part of the single market.
>>71551271
Shengen is a separate issue, it refers to open borders. We're talking about free movement of labor, which is something Britain did sign off on and will have to continue to being a part of to access the single market.
Simply put, they were in a stronger negotiating position when they were in the EU as a full fledged member. Now they're just another country that has no say whatsoever in EU policy.
>>71551330
>I think he should have given an unbiased view on the news
The fact people treat a comedian as a fucking reporter makes me despair.
i dont think hes funny and usually kinda annoying when he gets excited over a joke, but i do like the topics he covers since its not usually something discussed by the bigger people and he avoids the big subjects usually
>>71551415
>Maybe
Not maybe. Absolutely.
>Europe is still closer and sports the largest economy collectively.
Europe has an extremely low amount of trade deals with other countries compared to free nations not in the EU.
>>71551216
Not gonna argue that... This is actually true. It's because the left have too much power. But then again, how did the left attain so much power in the first place? May be because a war mongering right had too much power13 years ago and people were tired of conservative bullcrap? J it's going to happen again when the western world goes full right and someone does something fucked up in the name of right leaning philosophy
>>71548154
He needs to fuck off, you left the UK you don't live here anymore therefore you forfeit any rights you once held to comment on this nation. You fucking lefty piece of shit, go get stabbed or shot and do the world a favour and die.
Fucking cheek of expats really pisses me off, we left the EU (the cuckold, immigrant loving, authoritarian) regime. GET OVER IT IT'S 2016 I MEAN COME ON!
>>71551383
We could always form trade deal with other countries you moron.
>>71551460
Then we're gonna get the Uber SJW
>>71551482
No you couldn't.
>>71551415
>Shengen is a separate issue, it refers to open borders. We're talking about free movement of labor, which is something Britain did sign off on and will have to continue to being a part of to access the single market.
Schengen agreement is exactly the "free movement of labour" contract in EU which Britain did not sign you fucking moron. Thus EU immigration and free movement of people did not affect Britain at all thus should not have been an issue when talking about EU and it's effects with immigration to the Britain.
>>71551383
>DICTATORSHIPS and AUTHORITARIANISM are NOT good things, no matter how hard John Oliver shills for them.
This is an emotional argument that frankly has no place in a geopolitical debate.
If there was ever a country that enjoyed a more cushy position in the EU while conveniently ignoring the policies it didn't like, it was Britain.
>>71551473
>We left
We voted to leave.
We are still members until article 50 is signed off.
>>71551508
I don't care, John Oliver is a faggot and needs to die, at least Piers Morgan is becoming slightly more tolerable.
John needs to be thrown into the English Channel.
>>71551491
Yes, we could.
We built a trade partnership with China so much so that their steel fucked our own steel industry. We have a Chinese owned Nuclear facility being built. We did all this whilst still being a member of the EU. We could and did make trade deals, the idea that we couldn't is a stupid fucking myth that doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.
He doesn't like Cameron? Is he not enough of a leftist globalist shill?
>>71550993
>It's not even going to stop immigration because the EU already made it clear that free movement of workers would be a necessary prerequisite of entering the single market.
The EU is not in a position of strength here, the UK has a trade defict with the EU. If the EU plays hardball the UK can buy shit from other countries and the EU will lose hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs.
>>71551500
>emotional argument
No, it's a logical argument.
>what do you mean you're against Hitler, what an emotional argument hurrr
>frankly has no place in a geopolitical debate.
REALLY? Dictatorships vs Democracy has no place in a geopolitcal debate?
You're so incredibly cucked, I hope you die a horrible painful death.
Thanks.
>Remainers still wishing for a second EU referendum, thinking there's a chance Article 50 won't be triggered
>>71551446
>Europe has an extremely low amount of trade deals with other countries compared to free nations not in the EU.
[citation needed]
>>71551498
>Schengen agreement is exactly the "free movement of labour" contract in EU which Britain did not sign you fucking moron.
No it isn't you dumb nigger. It's for international travel purposes which may or may not be related to labor. It's the elimination of passports so those who are part of it are effectively one country.
>>71551570
>Britain can fuck over an entire continent.
Sorry, did I slip back in time to when the sun never set on the empire...?
>>71548154
>>71549468
>>71549520
>>71551498
Members of the EU still had a privileged status in the UK. The UK maintained a border control apparatus but they could not stop the permanent stay of people with EU passports.
>>71551599
The EU is actually quite fucked at the moment, Italy is pumping its banks with cash because they are about to collapse due to Brexit shocks.
Greece was already going to have a bailout in July which was around 3 billion Euros, this will go up and they will need more because of Brexit.
Spain is going to need a bailout soon due its own banks being hit.
Meanwhile we're already recovering. I know mainlanders (looking at you Germany and Lelgium) don't like to admit it, but they need us more than we need them and this is a fact.
>>71551607
>>71551574
You know you have to be over 18 to post right?
Right now you're being really emotional. Like a woman.
Come back when you're ready to talk without impotently wishing death on people who disagree with you and with whom you can't effectively debate. :^)
>>71549635
>He's not fucking propaganda
Goyim you just went full goy.
>>71548154
To be fair, the pig remark was a little funny
>>71551599
Its germany's biggest trade partner. The fuehrer will not allow the EU to fuck her country over with a punitive deal with Britain. If Germany isn't a friend of the EU, it's over.
>>71551641
I really wish I'd placed a bet on Leave. That would have made this so mucheasier
>>71551636
I LOVE the fact Greece and Spain got totally cucked by the EU, yet they still support it like the butthurt cucks they are.
>>71551657
>You know you have to be over 18 to post right?
You're the literal manchild that thinks democracy is bad and that the "experts" should rule over us.
You should probably just kill yourself kiddo.
:^)
>whom you can't effectively debate
Your entire argument is "we shouldn't even be discussing this".
SERIOUSLY kill yourself.
>>71551595
>No it isn't you dumb nigger. It's for international travel purposes which may or may not be related to labor. It's the elimination of passports so those who are part of it are effectively one country.
Yes you fucking moron. You do not need visa or passport to enter EU country thus -> _free_ _movement_ _of_ _people_ _EU_
Thus Britain did not sign this and by this it decided itself who enters with their own country with visa procedure thus no free movement of people -> EU did not affect on immigration policy
>>71548657
>Dip shit millennials
>Millennials birth years ranging from the early 1980s to around 2000.
Dude you should already have family of your own not browsing 4chan.
>>71551704
His argument is that the way you discuss it doesn't strengthen your position. It makes you look ridiculous.
>>71551636
>they need us more than we need them and this is a fact.
If that were true, the EU wouldn't be the one saying GTFO NOW while Britain keeps dragging its feet.
>that one butt blasted /pol/fag ITT replying to every single post
pure autism
>>71551641
>>71551622
>Members of the EU still had a privileged status in the UK
No they did not
>>71551704
Leave supporter here. You sound like a child, please shut up.
>>71551731
>His
(you)
Nice try though.
>that the way you discuss it
Tell me where my reasoning is flawed, instead of pussying out of the debate.
>It makes you look ridiculous.
You think unelected bureaucrats is a great idea and you're calling others ridiculous.
>>71551772
>totally legitimate leave supporter and not the same guy you were arguing with here
>>71551749
To minimise damage, why do you think the EU is introducing laws to block other EU nations holding referendums?
Also in 2017 it's the UK's rotation to be EU president. Hence why they want us out NOW NOW NOW!
Durrr.
>>71548154
Literally did not make 1 point. At all. How does anyone watch this shit?
Also
>"Ok"
>Audience laughs
>>71551776
>Unelected
No MEP is unelected Amerilard. Please stop, you're embarrassing. Maybe go have a nap.
>>71551711
No it doesn't. There are other EU members who aren't part of the Schengen zone and they still have to comply with rules of free labor movement.
>>71551808
>why do you think the EU is introducing laws to block other EU nations holding referendums?
Because it is not?
>>71551726
He looks like Stephen Crabb.
>>71551808
Like that's going to matter. The UK isn't going to preside over a union it already voted out of. It's not even attending EU summits anymore.
>>71551802
No that's me. It's funny to see people you think you're fighting for turning on you because you're a whiny preteen. :^)
>>71551841
>Because it is not?
lol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662027/EU-stop-following-Britain-door-Merkel-warns-amid-market-fears-bloc-no-longer-governable-Brexit.html
Just like they weren't having an army right?
>>71551858
Nigel himself was at an EU assembly in the past week blowing them the figurative raspberry. Where do you get your """""""""""" facts"""""""""""""""""?
>>71551858
This is the future for the EU.
It is time the Germans accepted it.
>>71548657
>>71551726
>complains about millennials
>probably 40 something manchild basement dweller
top kek
>>71551827
>There are other EU members who aren't part of the Schengen zone and they still have to comply with rules of free labor movement.
Yeah some shit countries like Romania, Ireland, Cypres and Bulgaria that is because they actually want to be Schengen but others don't let them in.
>>71551894
>Article about a travel document proves the EU are preventing referendums
You having a stroke lad?
>>71550993
>He's right though
He is wrong about literally every single thing he said, except maybe the pig fucker remark.
Farage said that he can't promise 350 million are going to the NHS because A) the actual figure is lower (he said so before the referendum), B) he has no political power, C) he wasn't part of the campaign and D) that wasn't even the actual promise made on the bus. It depends on whoever is in power to put the money there. That is not backpedalling.
The immigration issue means that the EU can't start shilling for migrant quotas, threatening with fines when a country doesn't do what its told, etc. Plus the constant talks about EU border police makes it clear UK is dodging a bullet from the future.
UK was the second country with highest net contribution of money, if that's getting "all the benefits of being in the union" then fuck it.
It is not so much how many things are going to be different from the current situation (which are actually enough on their own), but the direction the EU is going, which is towards an inevitable crash, unless EU leaders tone down on their globalist agenda.
>>71551954
>Doesn't read the link
Are you sure you're not the one having the stroke lad?
>>71551913
Did you literally stop watching after you saw him walk into the building?
That's the LAST TIME he's going to be there. They've already started holding meetings without Cameron.
>>71551770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom#European_Union
The main difference between the UK and Schengen is that the UK checks passports and requires documentation of entry and exit. EU citizens have no further barrier to permanent residence within the UK.
>>71549468
>>71549520
Nice banter, but is it really a good idea to mock them if he wants to make a free trade deal with them? Seems couterproductive
>>71551972
The one were Merkel made a warning that countries shouldnt do as Britain did...?
How does that prove anything...?
Mind you, you're one of these people who still think the UK was shackled from trading with any other country.
>>71552009
lol butthurt remainiac detected, I bet you're one of the people that still thinks an EU army isn't happening.
Go prep your bull you pathetic cuck.
>>71551967
>globalist agenda
That's not an agenda, that's just the trajectory of human politics, economy and society.
Just like how we're not living in city-states anymore. Or are you saying we should revert to a stage of individual tribes?
>>71551988
Cameron resigned.
Why would they have meetings with a civilian who holds no political office?
>>71548154
Glad to see that John Oliver is still bitter that nobody here in the UK knows or cares about him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's not even really English, and putting on a convincing accent is his only skill in life.
>>71552083
LMAO DRUMPF TEHE
>>71552051
So, you can't actually provide any proof, its just tinfoil hattery?
Superb.
>>71552051
can't barage the farage
>>71552072
He does still hold office. He's not being replaced until October at the earliest.
>>71552083
Brits care even less about you.
>>71552146
No mate, he's resigned. Not replaced. Just gone. There is no PM, just a government.
Modern liberals like to blame conservatives for being uneducated, easily manipulated and racist xenophobe bigots, but fail to realize that a lot of the silent majority exists only exists due to the fact that modern liberals make people feel the need to be silent.
They've all placed themselves in an echo chamber where they're surrounded by people who think exactly like them. People who will mindlessly like their tweets regardless of what it says. They're so disconnected from real America that the only way they can possibly explain it is to toss out their buzzwords and call them uneducated hillbillies.
It's happening around the world. This cultural marxist movement is being opposed by those who were supposed to be brainwashed by this point. The reactions you see from people like the Current Year Man are temper tantrums because they know they're fucked.
>>71552168
That's because I'm not a fucking primetime camwhore for dipshit college/uni students and reddit users.
>>71552215
Tasty pasta.
>>71550050
>John Oliver told the truth about Trump
>source: a liberal circlejerk
Where do you want it to come from? All media is biased one way or the other, an outlet won't release facts that work against its own agenda
>>71552055
>that's just the trajectory of human politics, economy and society.
Trajectory with plenty of downsides that are being actively ignored or even hidden by globalist shills, the EU leaders being at the vanguard of this political movement. It is being forced on people, instead of coming naturally. Brexit, the rise of Trump, the rise of all nationalist right-wing parties in Europe should be an obvious tell of this. Even people like Soros are starting to criticize Europe's immigration policies.
>Or are you saying we should revert to a stage of individual tribes?
Nation states are good enough.
>>71552231
No, you're even worse.
You're just a loser here who has no voice or influence on anything.
And you'll die alone and miserable.
>>71552055
Hello current year man
Give substantive arguments for your position. Merely stating that world government is modern does not prove your case.
>>71552055
Seems you missed the vote globalist scum. Your world government got fucked in the ass. Get on the right side of history.
>>71552253
>EU leaders being at the vanguard of this political movement
Not even. Asian nations for instance are embracing free trade spheres with little resistance and are basically on the fast track to integrating their economies and trade systems.
Forget the minor political spats and memes about them hating each other. While they occasionally blow hot air, they're coalescing like never before.
Meanwhile the West is likely to remain divided well into the next century.
>>71552282
>projecting this hard
>liberal Americans will believe anything this man says because he has a British accent
>>71552335
>Article 50 gets ignoired again
>Referendum was never legally binding
If there really are Le Evil Globajews then the UK has countless outs they can exploit.
>>71552335
>right side of history
>>/reddit/
Globalism implies that humans take no pride in their heritage. That is of course not true, hence the backlash from people who don't want refugees and immigrants to take over their home.
>>71552215
>They've all placed themselves in an echo chamber where they're surrounded by people who think exactly like them.
Sounds like the alt right.
>>71552398
>Referendum was never legally binding
But Great Britain is a democracy and PM understands the inherent dangers that come with ignoring the people. Which is why GB will honor the vote and leave the EU.
>>71552390
>projecting this hard
>>71552450
>Which is why GB will honor the vote and leave the EU.
Yeah I wish, brits are backpedaling fast.
>>71552253
>Nation states are good enough.
Why? They're as subjective as any other order.
>>71552445
It is, basically.
Yanno, for every action there is an equal reaction or however that goes. The alt-right is a liberal creation. When you alienate a gigantic portion of Americans over a long enough period of time, that divide becomes grand canyon-esque. There's little gray area in either party at the moment, so moderates have to choose which sacrifices to make when voting. The real shame in American partisan politics, 2bh.
>>71552445
The left and right are both sides of the same rusted old coin.
Both sides are clinging to ideologies that are fast going extinct as people wise up and enter a post ideology phase within the next century.
>>71552473
>Brits are backpeddling fast
No they're not. Unless you honestly believe all the "buyer's remorse" garbage that liberal media outlets have been spewing.
>>71552450
>PM
The PM we don't have for a few months yet?
>implying tjhe people won't be begging to stay in a few months
We had buyers remorse the very next day.
Soon well have Scotland threatening tpotpo leave.
Engineered catastrophe after engineered catastrophe.
The new PM, whoever it will be, will tell us we cannot go ahead in the interest of national security.
Just wait.
This will happen, if there really are these secret puppet masters you folk scream about.
>>71552527
>>71552562
You should really trust polls more than media narratives.
The buyer's remorse narrative was not based on any facts whatsoever. Each outlet used like one of a few tweets they found on Twitter to support their claim.
The actual polling data suggests otherwise.
>>71552376
>He thinks asian countries are uniting
Jesus christ dude. Not only is this not true, but they are some of the most racist countries on Earth, at least in comparison with Western countries with similar quality of life. Globalists are AGAINST those countries, at least culturally. And besides it's a terrible example because the rise of China is precisely one of the most important reasons (indirectly) of the anti-globalist movement when it comes to the economy. The nationalist right hates the competition that fucks the lower classes, and the liberal left hates their explotaition of workers.
>>71552508
Actually the alt right is a conservative creation. The narrative from the mainstream right was that you can't trust anyone, even elected officials in a representative democracy. It was only a matter of time before their supporters starting seeing enemies from all sides and corners that they effectively became tone-deaf "watch the world burn" anarchists.
>>71552558
I'm talking about british politicians not fucking off asap as the promised
>>71552558
>Implying you would reject those news sources if they agreed with you.
>>71552181
>there is no PM
But that's not true. Cameron is still the incumbent. Announcing one's resignation doesn't = gone effectively immediately.
>>71552603
But polls were wrong about the outcome of two major elections. Why would I trust polls over my own experience with real people?
>>71552500
They have a history. The institutions which prevail were fought for over the span of 1000 years in England and they've reached a calm equilibrium of democracy, equity, and stability.
Then some progressive planners come along and surrender the fundamental principle of English governance, parliamentary sovereignty, to an unelected body of continental officials.
>>71552618
Polling methods are published with polls. Assuming no funny business, only a fool rejects facts.
>>71552658
Stop trying to tell me how my country works Amerilard.
>>71552609
Economic globalization doesn't require cultural unity.
>>71552500
The fact that culture is artificial doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that it doesn't have a real effect on people's minds. The sense of in-group and out-group is inherent to the human mind, and we are decades away from even starting to consider the in-group as the entire humanity (which is the objective of globalists).
Globalism leads to dysfunctionality and loss of trust. Nationalism does not.
