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ITT: How to cop out of a too complicated and too political plot
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ITT: How to cop out of a too complicated and too political plot
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>>71441171
This was the only way it could have ended.
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>>71441171
>implying things like this dont happen in real world when things get really fucked up.
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>>71441237

What about Margaery's secret plan though?
Also
>Sparrows too stupid to realize Cersei's plan (even High Sparrow) and not letting anyone go despite Cersei not even showing up which should make an immediate guilty verdict and everyone should go home
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>>71441171
I din't understand his scene, he looked like he was in deep thought for last 20 seconds, as if he was about to realize something, but nothing comes to it, he doesn't even utter a fucking word or gasp because he came to realization of something
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>>71441171

AHHHHH SAVE ME WARRIOR
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>>71441382
>>71441388
he was a fanatic he thougth he would survive anything because of the gods.
Also margaery only wanted to save her brother,nothing more,she wasnt ploting or anything.
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>>71441509

>She wasn't plotting anything
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>>71441171
That's what GoT is:
>"muh politics"
>oh shit how do I climb out of this hole I've made for myself
>how about I just kill them
>if anyone says anything I'll just say that stuff like this happens in real life!
>hopefully no one realizes the writing is total fucking garbage
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>>71441577
that was meant to show olena that she was still sane and dindt become a god bitch.
i believe.
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>>71441388
After hearing Marge he knew he had been duped. He knew she was right about Cersei and with Tommen not there he was coming to realize that he was the one about to get got and all the manipulation was for nothing. Nigga got blown away before he could even grasp the situation.
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Wouldn't it have been hilarious if Lenzel just blew out the candles?
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>>71441617
This. 1000 fucking times this!
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>>71441736
>licks fingers
>stubbs out each candle

Seriously thats all it would have taken
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>>71441630
>realize that he was the one about to get got
You reckon he genuinely thought he was about to win game of thrones ?
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>>71441577
She was plotting on using the Faith Militant to cement power.

Notice how quickly she changed her tune when the High Sparrow got Loras to renouce his role? She thought she finally had one upped Cersei.
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>>71441778

*smacks lips*

SO HOL UP
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>>71441736
>>71441778
What if he din't follow the kid? Why did he follow the kid ? what if he killed the kid what he was about to ambush him ? What if he pissed on the candles and blew them out
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would you rather some hokey shit where she frames him or some crap
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>>71441388
He didn't know about the wildfire so he didn't think there was anything Cersei could do?
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What the fuck does this guy want? Why does he help Cersei so much? Why is he okay with literally killing everybody just to help Cersei?

>inb4 muh experiments
Why didn't he become Tommen's bitch instead?
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>>71442012
Some just want to see the world burn.
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>>71442012
he's old and bored and hates the maesterdom

he literally doesn't give a fuck anymore, just wants dem royal funds to do crazy shit
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>>71442012
Cersei indulges his mad scientist desires, whereas others have shunned him. She's given him power when he was washed up.
Tommen would have listened to the other advisors first, who would have told him to get lost.
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>>71442012
> Why do people help those in power
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>>71442144

Cersei is in power BECAUSE of him
She the Sparrow's complete bitch after her walk of shame.
Cersei wouldn't be shit without Qyburn
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Hopefully they all come back as zombies. That would be an amazing twist
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>>71441736
>candles
Couldn't they come up with a more unsafe method of triggering the explosion?
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my thoughts exactly.
They had all this shit building up with Margaery's scheme and how is Cersei gonna get out of this one??

Then all of a sudden there's 50,000 barrels of Wildfire under the city? jesus christ
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>>71442012
He and Cersei respect eachother and with Cersei he gets to do all of 'muh experiments' he wants. This isn't hard to understand.
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>>71442258

In the middle ages candles were the perfect timers.
Scholars that read in the dungeons used them to tell how many hours have past.
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>>71442258
They function as a decent timing mechanism, as well.
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>>71441171
Shit CGI too
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>>71442345
African ones ?
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>>71441171
>mfw they end the white walkers invasion with well placed burrowed wildfire barrels
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>>71442294
>Then all of a sudden there's 50,000 barrels of Wildfire under the city?

The mad king placed it there. He wanted to burn the entire city.
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Copout aside, Tommen's suicide was one of the most beautiful scenes in the entire series.

He is truly the only king who wanted him to be good, so seeing him kill himself after realizing he is the worst king in history was heartbreaking.
Also the score leading up to it was perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK0yG8xG5I
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>>71442497

Didn't Tyrion use it up to beat Stannis?
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reminder that cersei invited this idiot into power in the first place
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>>71442144
>>71442213
>>71442341
>>71442012
Qyburn is the opposite of a fairweather friend. He ingratiates himself to Cersei in the moments when literally everyone else would turn their backs on her, believing she's on her way out.

Sometimes I get the feeling that he's not even a real power-hungry sociopath and that he legitimately cares about her.
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>>71442583
Yes. Continuity error
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>>71442497
So why didn't the whole city blow up rather than just the sept?
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>>71442606

Uh oh Jamie's not gonna like this
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>>71442606
Despite all her lows she's still the most powerful woman in Westeros. As other people abandon her others will take their place out of opportunity.
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>>71442557
Put the landing in king's landing. Lived down to the nickname the FALL king lmao
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>>71442345
>>71442371
No sane person would play with candles around wildfire, only reason this happened is because poor, illiterate, unwashed kids did the job.
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>>71442743
Conglaturation on killing jokes, anon
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>>71442642
Because some of the wildfire caches were already found and removed by that point. Lancel found the one that blew up quite easily though, so that one must have been moved there recently, otherwise it would have been found before. Unless it was sealed off in some way.
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>>71442763
You're an idiot.
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>>71442441

Catholic Monks
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>>71442012
>What the fuck does this guy want?
Probably use Westeros as a gigantic test lab and play god.
>Why does he help Cersei so much?
She's the only one with influence that would let him do anything he wants unchecked.
>Why is he okay with literally killing everybody just to help Cersei?
Mad scientist, plus the above.

Probably already creating parasites to take control of Cersei's brain and turn her into a puppet.
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>>71442557
Thank you, somebody gets it.
I thought Tommen's suicide was one of the best/most character-appropriate scene they've done in seasons.
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>ITT: How to cop out of a too complicated and too political plot
Red Wedding thread?
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>>71442857
This.
The guy seemingly mind controlled a bunch of kids with his "sweets".
Qyburn gonna be the winner of the game
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>>71442863
Because they killed offscreen or unceremoniously so many characters like afterthoughts since they had no idea what to do with them anymore, when you have something that makes sense with appropriate build up, it pays off.
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>>71442880

The other way would be
>Rob actually takes Casterly Rock
>Takes back King's Landing
>Defeats Lannisters, save Salsa
>Oh also Arya comes back
Send more men to Nightwatch because they listen to Jon
>Everybody lives happily ever after
>The end
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>>71441617
>>if anyone says anything I'll just say that stuff like this happens in real life!

This seemed loosely inspired by the gunpoweder plot of 1605.

>fill the cellar of parliament with barrels full of explosives
>wait for parliament, the king, and all your enemies to gather in one place
>blow them all up

The roles were reversed: In real life the church was conspiring to kill the king and all political adversaries to the catholic church, while in GOT it was the queen conspiring to kill all members of the church along with her political rivals.
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>>71442497
They have been making more as well. With the rebirth of magic, dragons, white walkers, etc wildfire has been much easier to make.
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>>71442863
>>71442557

Yeah it makes you wish they showed his struggle to be a good king who serves his citizens a little more
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>>71442863
It was great, but I couldn't help but think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJfL2mjS_4s
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>>71441788
Not him and not sure if ur b8 but get got is American slang for getting killed by your enemies.
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>>71442951
Actually it was inspired off Aerys the Mad king's plans to blow up the city years ago
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>>71442294
Welcome to D-ABIIIII-D where common sense is disregarded whenever we need to get rid of loose ends.
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>>71443037
Even so, there's no denying that it's a close parallel to the gunpowder plot, thereby proving that some of the shoe's direction does indeed occur irl
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>>71442583
It was four years ago, they hoped people would forget the details. Hell they even hoped we'd forget that Varys was in Dorne this episode.
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>>71443071
Show's *
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>>71441171
He didn't fry so good.
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>>71441617

20 GOOD KIDS
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>>71442012
Dudes obsessed with experimenting with dark shit and if hes back by the crown then he has all the freedom and resources he needs
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>>71442557
>seeing him kill himself after realizing he is the worst king in history
I thought he did it because of Margaery.
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>>71443015

In dramarturgy theory there is no real difference between a tragedy and a comedy, it all depends on execution and resolution.
If someone falls on the floor it could be either tragic or funny.
It's funny if he gets up, but it's tragic if he doesn't.
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>>71443071
That's because GRRM's writing is largely based off English history.

Coincidentally, this is why he's stuck getting his new book finished. History is in the past, no new history is happening so now he has to close the story all on his own
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>>71443125
He's obsessed with it because he's the only person in Westeros actually making progress within the field of Medicine.

Back in the medieval age, it was largely frowned upon to experiment on dead bodies however that was how we were able to make such advancements within human health
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>>71441617
Exactly.
People are so fucking stupid with the "muh real life" excuse for shitty writing. This isn't real life. It's a narrative story that is supposed to have build ups, pay-offs, themes, logic etc.

Showfags are in full force defend mode after how shitty the season was once D&D lost their training wheels.
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>>71443128
Margaery is obviously part of it, but it's the whole picture that you need to take into consideration, the loss of his wife, his failure as a king, the cruelty and insanity of his mother, etc.
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>>71441382
he was arrogant, that was the point
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>>71443128

I think it's partially that, but if she really meant the world to him he would've gone apeshit when the Sparrows took her.

I rather think it's the realization that he cannot rule anyone anymore and never made a right decision as king and in the end his decisions killed everybody.
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>>71441848
R U SAYIN I SHOULD SAVE ALL DEEZ CRACKAS?
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>>71442583
Don't remember the details in the show but in the books Cersei commissioned the Alchemists to make as much WF as they could.

They were able to make it quicker because dragons returned to the world
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>>71443125
yeah and cercei is the only person who actually like his work with the mountain
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>>71443233

Wasn't the point of his character that he's humble?
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With Cersei in charge, does this mean that she may reinstate trial by combat?
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>>71443211
"muh real life" and storytelling are completely different things, aiming for realism is asking for failure as fiction. What GoT lacks is common sense, not realism.
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>>71442632
No it's not. Cersei and the Mad King both had tons of the stuff made. Tyrion didn't need it all to cuck Stannis
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>>71443257

>They were able to make it quicker because dragons returned to the world

What's the connection?
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>>71443257

No alchemists in the show
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>>71443271
no. you're not humble if your humility is self-proclaimed.
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>>71442012
>Book:
Probably a plant from the Martell's to drive Cersei to further make bad decisions and exact their revenge against the Lannisters.
>show
I'ma creepy dude!
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>>71443273
Why would she care? She's the fucking queen now and the Sept is in ruin.
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>>71443211
>not reading the thread
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Without book source their hack writing has been exposed.
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>>71443273

Yes
Cleganebowl IS happening you dumb bitch!
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>>71443311
also, there's nothing humble about becoming more powerful than the king, even if it is (supposedly) in the name of god. he was on a power trip and thought his beliefs made him untouchable
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>>71443308
There was the one in season 2 who alluded to there being more.
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>>71443321
I'm talking about in relation to a possible Clegane bowl
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>>71443300
Magic is back bitches

nice triple dubs bro
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>>71443125
Yeah, and Cersei doesn't exactly have any ethics, so she's probably a good person to have in charge when you're an edgelord like Qyburn
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>>71443329
the irony
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>>71443344
Careful with your exclamation points, aggressive newfag. You may get exposed! :^)
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>>71443368
Cleganebowl likely won't happen because of a trial by combat.
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>>71443308
They showed one
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>>71443317
somebody give her a motorcycle while blasting primo victoria
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>>71441171
oh did Margery know that something bad was gonna happen just because Cersei wasn't there?

I mean, everyone would think that if Cersei didn't want to face the consecuences, then she probably escaped.

HOW THE FUCK did Margery know something bad, something that could kill everyone IN THAT PLACE would happen?

if you don't know shit about the wildfire under the place, then you don't know what else could destroy that place/kill them all
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>>71443317
You're theory makes no fucking sense
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>>71443317
>Dany's farting fire from the skies
This is so much more awesome than with the dragons.
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>>71441382
they built the whole thing up too much and ran out of time. regardless the last espisode was the only decent one

this whole season plus the last one has been more than garbage
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>>71443015
>>71443015
literally the first thing that popped into my head too lmao
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>>71443396
>le irony card
Look, obviously there was a drop in quality during season 5 and 6 with the hissing sisters and stronk womyn thanks to D&D, I'm not defending D&D, I'm talking about how some of the events within the show are obvious parallels to irl events.
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>>71443466
Because the King wasn't there, because she didn't fled the city, etc...

were you even watching?
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>>71442941
>The other way would be
>>Rob actually takes Casterly Rock
>>Takes back King's Landing
>>Defeats Lannisters, save Salsa
>>Oh also Arya comes back
>Send more men to Nightwatch because they listen to Jon
>>Everybody lives happily ever after
>>The end

holy kek

The Red Wedding is the opposite of the Green Trial, Robb had lost and was a walking corpse. The RW was just the Freys and Roose rising up to secure their positions.
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>>71443527
>Green Church*
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>>71443407

Shut up
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>>71443523
if i was a citizen in that place, and Cersei isn't there for the trial, i'd think that she escaped with Tommen.
What else could she do? Is not like I know about wildfire under the ground, right?
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>>71443466
Because Tommen wasn't here. Plus her pride would never allow her to escape.
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>>71443502

*BBRRRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPTTTTTTTTTT
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>>71443308
Just Google Hallyne and you'll see there was an Alchemist with a speaking role in the show
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>>71443560
>oh fuck he got me
>quiet, dummmy!!!!!!!
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It should have been 7 candles
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>>71443128
I think iys because he knew his own mother was responsible and knew tgat he wouldn't be strong/have the heart enough to fight her and also couldn't be the king to cover this kinda shit up so instaead of picking a side he killed himself
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>>71443568
There's zero reason to assume that the king left the city
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>>71443602

More like 20 good candles.
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>>71443497
>you are

It exactly makes perfect sense.
>someone needs to get aboard the Preston train.
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>>71443466

Tyrion literally used Wildfire to blow Stannis up.
It's not that hard to guess.
Or she could've thought she would send in her army to kill everybody or bomb it with catapults
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>>71442257
Did you miss the part where they literally exploded?
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>>71443466
And this is why the High Sparrow refused to acknowledge Margery.
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>>71443317
now this is podracing.
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>>71443568
Cersei wouldn't ran away, if she wasn't there it means she has plans, Margery knows this because she undesrtands Cersei.
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>>71443128
It is. These people are imputing thoughts and motivations onto Tommen WAY ABOVE GoT writers' heads.

It's literally just that he lost Margy's Sweet Pussy.
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>>71442257
>zombies
Surely you mean ashes golems.
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>>71443686
The High Sparrow realized Margery was right, he had his doubtface.jpeg on for a whole minute.
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>>71443601

Not even the same guy, but Cleganebowl memes are old as shit.
How new are you?
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>>71441171

It's literally what Dick Cheney and the other neocons did to the World Trade Center because they were being investigated using those offices.
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>>71441736

>Arya gets stabbed multiple times by a former assassin
>Still able to swim, run, jump and kill her follower

>Lancel gets stabbed once by a kid
>Has to crawl on the floor

wew lad
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>>71441171
Does he go super sayian.
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>>71443791
Doran
Aereo Hotah

Who else got one shotted guys?
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>>71442951
>loosely inspired

if you don't count that the gunpowder plot was planned for months and still failed, sure
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>>71443791
>not taking into account Arya's endless plot armor and Lancel's paper thin one
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>>71443635
>Cersei isn't there
>Tommen isn't there
>Cersei is Tommen's mother, and she loves him a lot, enough to no leave him behind.

The most smart citizen there thought that Cersei escaped, and took Tommen with her.

>>71443655
People would think that they already used all the wildfire, or maybe they never knew where did they get it from. Is not like Tyron explained with details to the whole city that he found wildfire
>catapults
lmao

>>71443686
yes, he acted like a normal person

>>71443722
If you don't know about the wildfire under the place, you'd think that Cersei is doomed to matter what. She faces the trial or runs away with Tommen.
You can't think otherwise unless you know about the wildfire.
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At least they had a foreshadowing of the ending. Some people even guessed it in the comments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szs5jIOy-Y0
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Is Olenna Tyrell better in the books? Normies act like she's the lovechild of Winston Churchill and Oscar Wilde, but she never says anything clever. Famous retorts like "If I were your wife I'd poison your tea / If I were your husband I'd drink it" are clever because they take what the other person said and throw it back at them. Olenna isn't witty, she's just a rude,unpleasant old bag who tells everyone to shut up.
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>>71443791
Didn't Lancel get stabbed in his heel?
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>>71443273
If by trial by combat, you mean sending an army to crush anyone who opposes her, then yes.
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>>71443843
>I'm a normal person
>conducting four separate arguments in one shitpost
Okay, buddy.
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>>71443873

She was great against Tywin, but now she lost her partner to bounce off for witty conversations so she's now only left to tell people to shut up
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>>71443843
>The most smart citizen there thought that Cersei escaped, and took Tommen with her.

Literally who

>She faces the trial or runs away with Tommen.
You can't think otherwise unless you know about the wildfire.

She wouldn't ran away with Tommen anon, she'd rather die than lose power. Can you not understand Cercei's character?
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>>71443914
Whenever she tells someone to shut up, they actually really need to.
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>>71443873
she only worked well with tywin because they could zing eachother like real motherfuckers
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>>71443769
You're a moron if you think you're an oldfag for Cleganebowl. It's not even a /tv/ exclusive hypetrain.

How new are you?
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>>71443843
>You can't think otherwise unless you know about the wildfire.

Except that Margaery knows how Cersei thinks and what kind of person she is and even if she didn't know what EXACTLY she planned, she knew that Cersei's goal is to kill everybody.
And in a world where stuff like the red wedding happened, it's easy to assume that everybody in the room is going to die one way or the other.
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>>71443906
>I ran out of arguments so i'll criticize the way you reply
thanks for letting me know that i'm right

bye~
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>game of thrones
>there isn't any actual official game for the throne

What in the fuck? When are they going to get to the actual game? I get all the jockeying and politicking but at some point they better show the fucking competition. I dunno how more people aren't upset about this but u haven't read the books or any book spoilers so maybe it's coming up. I can't even decide between wanting to see that and the white walker battle if I had to choose that's how desperate I am for them to just get to it. At least Tyrian mentioned it in the final episode.
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>>71443976
Made me frf, so here's your (You) good sir
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>>71444013
I bet you're on your fucking smartphone during the important parts, fuck off redditor.
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>>71444056
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>>71443914

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-I4O2UdTGQ

Conversations like these just don't happen anymore
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>>71444017
lemao
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Is the Faith finished?
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>>71444056
What so they have actually started setting up the competition or game or whatever it is outside of thinly veiled references? Why don't they show the set up or describe some of the history. Like we still don't know the format of the tournament or anything. But I'm sure people who read the book are like "don't u get it?!"
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>>71443843
>>71443466
Tommen is perfectly safe in Kings Landing moreover he acted directly against Cersei and supported Margery.

And unlike Sparrow Margery knows Cersei is vengeful crazy powerhungry bitch.
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>>71443955

Tywin was seriously the only smart guy in the entire show and knew his shit.
Why'd he have to fuck Tyrion's whore though? And go shitting with no guards?
It seemed so out of character. When Tyrion opened the door I at first expected somebody completely else to shit there because I didn't think Tywin would ever be so careless
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>>71443504
>this whole season plus the last one has been more than garbage

i took a look at reddit for 5 secs and they have been calling it as the "best season ever"
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>>71443271
>>71443271

He was smirking like a true cunt when Tommen came out of the sept

He wasn't humble, never was. Like all zealots he's smug and full of himself.
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>>71444221
At the end he was just a human, who never shat gold.
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>>71443846
what is this ?
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>>71442012
>inb4 muh experiments
but that's why. the rest of the meastors cast him out for morally questionable experiments, cersei gave him the power to do those experiments in exchange for his help

it's a win-win for everyone
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>>71443317
Is it just me that thinks Dany looks ridiculous whenever she's on the back of a dragon?
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>>71444339
a red arrow
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>>71444339
Are you serious? That's a brooch and basically everyone with a cloak wears one.
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>>71443876
Buttocks I think

>>71443832
This is why Arya survived

>>71443822
Just lucky crits man, fucking RNG
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>>71441171
>hype sparrows for 2 seasons
>even pretended margery had secret 5D chess master plan
>woooops it all ended in a single episode
>fuck your fan speculation nigga
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>>71444444 check em
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>>71443317

>she will never straddle your cock like that
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>>71444156
There literally hasn't been a scene with this quality of writing in three seasons
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Did you hear about the Sparrow that got into Baelor's Sept?
He was destroyed!
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>>71444553
And there are those who say:

>Wow best season ever
>good writing
>Cersei so badass xD
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>>71441382
> Too stupid to realize that the building was about to blow up with the weapons that havent been used in like half a decade
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>>71444661
>>71444553
And fuck that piece of 'Fire and Blood', why kill Doran if they are going to follow the exact same plot?

Fuck DD
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>>71442880
But that wasn't lazy writing. There was a rational point to the lead up to that scene happening. Rob fucked up
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>>71441617
/thread

add in that the dialogue, the sets/costumes, character arcs/motivations and some of the actors are absolutely awful (all mostly beginning around the beginning of season 3) and that's probably the most concise view of GoT ever typed out
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>>71444683

Still no reason for Sparrows to block everyone from going out
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>>71444683
>Too stupid to realize the building was going to blow up by a hidden weapon cache that only 10 people max knew about, of which most are dead already
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>>71444746
He was the one in charge.
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>>71441171
RULES OF NATURE
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>>71444794

did he feel in charge?
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>>71442012
well he's now hand of the queen, so that's a sweet deal
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>>71442557
I thought it was unintentionally hilarious.
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>>71441617
Yup, all the decent plot lines have been ruined because of some gay "epic" moment where the person just dies because it's realistic and edgy, when in reality it's awful fucking writing
Perhaps the reason LotR is so much better is because we actually get to enjoy the characters cause they don't drop like flies, if LotR was GoT Frodo and Sam would have died and some random boring bitch would have dropped the ring
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>>71444746
even if they let them out once they realized, how would they have survived? That explosion was massive
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>>71443219
>>71442557
nah. it was almost entirely because of Margaery. he's a teenager he doesn't even have a concept of what "being a good king" means.
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>>71444966
We can assume it would have a few survivors, I mean, drop an atomic bomb and it wouldn't be weird if someone survived somehow.
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>>71444985
This is the one case where I think people aren't giving D&D more credit. Tommen constantly referenced Tywin's speech on how to be a good king this season.
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>>71444985

I would agree with you if he just jumped out the window.
But when he put down the crown down before the suicide, it was showing that he realized he failed as a king.
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>>71443671

They can be ghost zombies, duh.
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>>71445152
>>71442557
This might just be me, but I thought it was a little less about him thinking he specifically is the worst king in history, and more about thinking he's not worthy of the crown.

I think he was all too aware that half the city's nobility and pious were just murdered by his own mother, in an act the likes of which Westeros never saw since the day of dragons.

The god's house destroyed, his wife killed, King's Landing forever scarred, countless lives destroyed, the church brought to its knees. All because of his mother. He also I think had put together the pieces about what else she wanted to accomplish by getting rid of the only people with the power to prove her incest.

In his shoes, in a culture deeply invested in heritage and bloodlines as something significant and character defining, wouldn't you too think, that a Lannister such as himself, would never be worthy of the throne?

And he can't do anything about it, short of ordering his own mother's incarceration and execution, and that won't fix a damn thing either.
He's literally and figuratively a hostage of his mother, despite being king.
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The show has much larger fanbase than the people who originally started watching it. Most of the newer fans do not really care about things like careful lot progression, pacing, dialogue, consequences, etc. Not to say these people are all thick, but the show is presenting itself more and more as straight up action. If someone started watching in S5 he or she probably didn't know there were whole arcs of people just manuvering through politics like Tyrion in S2. Just accept what it is now or stop watching it like me.
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>y-yeah now um... now a big um, like, demon thing appears out of nowhere and um... the g-goblins just leave them for some reason, yeah, that sounds good
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>>71445491
>Newer fans
>If someone started watching in S5

Oh fuck off
Literally nobody would start in the middle. Everyone starts with season 1 and catches up.
Stop thinking of your self as some elite club again
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>>71445674
>Get interested in the show in S5
>Go back and watch from the beginning
It's not rocket science man. Same thing for the Witcher series and MGS with MGS4.
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>>71445656
(You)
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>>71444339
it looks like a curled omega the last letter of the Greek alphabet.
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>>71445866

Again literally nobody does this. Fuck off. People wouldn't even understand what the fuck is going on if they started with season 5. Heck most of my normie friends who started with season 1 can't even remember most of the names, how is someone who hasn't the 4 seasons before it supposed to understand what the fuck's happening?

You're literally retarded as fuck.
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>>71442863
>camera positioned stationary for one long shot
>see tommen tremble as he removes his crown
>walks out of shot, camera stays in same place
>hear him place his crown down
>room goes quiet
>hear screams of burning citizens coming from the window
>start hearing tommens footsteps as he walks towards window
>steps out and drops without hesitation
>mfw

Miguel Sapochnik has done it again, can we just let him direct all episodes from now on?
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>>71441382

>what about margaery's secret plan though?
>ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF WINDS OF WINTER: THE BOOK VERSION

There is enough time to do it properly there.
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>>71441577
>the rose resembles an explosion plume
truly the queen of ruses
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>>71445986

The scene was really a 10/10
Oh so someone else wrote the episode? Because I really thought that when I saw episode 10. It felt so entirely different from all the other episodes of this season.
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>>71443387
>edgelord
Didn't he literally create alcohol?
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>>71445986

Seriously, how can anybody see this scene and think "hurr he killed himself because of Margaery because he's a horny teen xd"

People must be retarded.
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>>71441171

>Every Tarantino movie ever made
>Every Scorsese movie ever made
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>>71446146
Nah, it was the same shitty writers but the same director of battle of the bastards. He's really excellent at framing shots.
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>>71444929
It's almost as if GoT and LoTR are 2 completely different works with different inspirations, themes and so on.
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>>71441617
It worked when Ned faced realistic consequences for the sake of the plot. It doesn't work when they build an entire plotline for 2 seasons without any pay off.
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>>71443317

Book: An outdated and irrelevant medium

Show: The superior form of storytelling and the basis for this fucking board
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>>71445893

he's right though
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>>71441382
Her plan was already shown. Margaery made a deal with the Sparrow to spare her brother for his sins and eliminate the only obstacle in both their way; Cersei by removing trial by combat.
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