>So you guys like Lyanna Mormont... Noted.
GRRM just tweeted this.
What will he do to the bear loli?
;_;
>"guys I'm going to do something in the books now about her hahah, remember the books? It's almost out...any day now!"
That's what he meant
>>71424639
We'll find her shitting water at dawn.
>>71424639
Rape
But reverse rape
>>71424639
so basically Lyanna's child actor is getting to write the books now just by giving a better-than-anticipated performance? Noted.
>>71424705
That's LITERALLY what happened with Tyrion too
wildfire cache under Mormont Hall
aw shit the books gonna be all grrrl power fanservice now too
>>71424639
Why does anyone like this girl? She's unrealistically quick on her feet for a child to the point where it's laughable and destroys any sort of realism in any scene she is in. Even worse, she's not even cute.
>>71424639
>What will he do to the bear loli?
Nothing because he isn't writing anything
>>71424792
She's cute as fug.
>>71424800
Looks like a boy with glued on hair.
>>71424889
>boy with glued on hair
hot
poison her pickanick basket
She's not Jorah's daughter is she? I honestly don't know if him and his wife had kids before he was exiled
>>71424639
Oh good, now GRRM is going to add some shitty tumblrb8 characters to the novels and shit up the books too.
>>71424944
>implying the books haven't been shit since AFFC
>>71424944
>shit up the books too
its been a shit long time mate
>>71424935
No, jeor is her uncle so jorah would be her cousin
>>71424961
>>71424980
Well I was holding out hope, friends.
>>71424639
Have Ramsay rape her.
FUCK she's so CUTE bros
>>71424935
His cousin
>>71424639
>What will he do to the bear loli?
nothing because she doesn't exist in the books
Lady Mormont in the books is a huge Brunhilda-type lady currently guarding Asha and Theon in Stannis' camp.
Her "north remembers speech" belongs to other loli from the books named Wylla Manderly
>a lot of the leaks said she was going to be one of the burning flayed bodies on the crosses on the field before the Bolton forces
>see her at Stannis' camp with Jon a few episodes before Bastardbowl
>immediately think the 20 good men are going to make another appearance
>she's at the treat between Jon and Ramsay
>Ramsay says "lol see you tomorrow then"
>oh fuck shes gonna get nabbed during the night
>they don't show her at all after the battle
>they wait until practically the end of the finale before giving her another scene
phew
>>71424792
She's awesome because she just put a room full of oathbreakers on their asses when no one else would come to Jon's aid. All them old whiny faggots got put down by a cute little 10 year old.
RIP Lyanna Mormont
azor lyanna
>>71424944
>add some shitty characters to the "novels"
>and shit up the books too
According to the fatmans lies he's "almost done" with TWOW and it will be out "soon". So technically he can't squeeze any more shit characters into that one. Which leaves ADoS. But its the last book or its never going to come out, who cares.
Or does the "...noted" imply that he's going to kill her off in some brutal unnecessary fashion?
>>71424639
>So you guys like Lyanna Mormont... Noted.
holy fuck she's deader than dead
>>71425035
Lyanna Mormont does exist in the books. She sends the same letter to Stannis that he mentions in the show. The Brunhilda-type is one of her many sisters, Alysane I think, who were all cut from the show.
>>71425097
What a punchable face.
>>71425097
she looks like that kid from that movie lorenzo's oil
>>71424703
Imagine her with a 8 inch strapon. Shit I'm hard right now.
>>71424639
she just has that edge that makes me want to serve her. Like, the way jorah is with dany or brianne is with any fooking stark she comes in contact with. At least jorah kinda makes sense cause he saw her do miracles. But the characters themselves just seem like weak bitches. Lyanna though just has that simple clarity of mission and sharpness of direction.
>>71425035
Lyanna Mormont still exists; she sends the "Bear Island knows no king" letter.
Is there anything wrong with just finding a 12 year old girl cute as a 25 year old male? With absolutely no sexual connotations?
>>71425319
It would be weird if you had sexual connotations
>>71425319
I think young Arya was cute. I don't want to fuck her, but I think she's cute.
No I don't think it's bad. Just don't take it further.
>>71425097
why does she have that stupid accent? Sheesh, speak english WTF
>>71425372
She's from Bear IREland. lol
>>71425319
no it's normal.
>>71424639
>Fun Fact: George R.R. Martin cast the little girl for the role of Lyanna Mormont by himself.GRRM PEDOPHILE CONFIRMED?
>>71424639
Nothing, I've given up on him writing anymore with the story and I am just going to take the show as canon
>>71425319
No, girls are cute. It's normal. Getting a boner from a 12 year old is also normalon /tv/
>>71424792
Dude stahp your hating.
>>71425421
Only output area totally none-sexual entity.
The rest of the male sex thinks she's sexy as fuck
>>71425097
HHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG
MUH LADY
MUH HEARTMUH DICK
>>71424639
TRUNCHBULL INCOMING
MATILDA GOING TO GET BTFO
>>71425100
either way loli is not ruling mormonts in the books and lyanna mormont is likely some old fat lady (seeing from her mother and younger sisters)
unless fat George bends over his canon backwards to fit in /tv/ continuity
Does she has a tweeter? I wanna ask her some things. Maybe she will give me pictures.
>>71425442
You dense fucker. GRRM is a show writer AND an author. The two are not exclusive talents. He has this shit under wraps.
>>71425508
DUDE YOU'RE STALKER LMAO
>>71425144
>Nigga remembered Lorenzo's Oil
>>71424792
>She's unrealistically quick on her feet for a child
Julius and Augustus Caesar were fucking all kinds of shit up when they weren't much older.
I mean it's not _normal_ but it's not completely unrealistic. And it's in a show with dragons and ice zombies, so forget about realism.
I mostly liked her because it was finally someone pointing out how moronic everyone was acting instead of going along with the plot. She was like a voice for meta-commentary. She could very easily over-stay her welcome but for now it's not too bad.
>>71424705
Apparently he came up with more plot for Osha after seeing Natalia Tena on the show. Pity we have a pretty good idea how that's going to wind up now.
>>71424792
>Why does anyone like this girl?
She has charisma. But you wouldn't understand what that means since nobody likes you.
>>71425319
There's literally nothing wrong with it. Little girls are cute. Only pedos who project their own depravity on others think it's some kind of perversion. And overprotective mothers.
>>71425892
Please. Julius didn't do anything when he was THAT young. Augustus was brilliant, sure, but I think he was also further into his teens when he was shaping Rome behind the scenes.
It is absurd to see a little girl who hasn't even hit puberty tell a room full of men that they're all pussies. Sure, she was "right", but she's just created to be some genius that doesn't make any sense.
>>71426010
Undeserved charisma from a house with no power lead by a child. It's terrible. Also, I'm not sure if that's projection or not but it's definitely wrong.
>>71425123
>What a punchable face.
No, THIS is a punchable face.
>>71426058
>Undeserved charisma
Deserve has nothing to with it.
>>71426130
Except it does. It's a shameful house that has has its two last main members banished or sent to the wall. They only had, what was it, sixty fighting men? They're a small nobody who fought with a large somebody, yet that little girl walks around stomping on everyone's nuts because she lucked out and is quicker on her feet than superheros in a Marvel movie.
It just makes for crappy television and story telling to have little kids having major influence, especially when they, as I've mentioned, do not deserve it.
>>71424792
Because the world has gone insane
>>71425035
rip in peace Dacey ;_;
>GRRM basing the books off the show
Hahahahaha I fucking knew it. Bookautists BTFO
>>71426188
>thinks charisma must be earned
>>71426058
>Please. Julius didn't do anything when he was THAT young.
He was starting his moves back then and was regarded well by people who knew him. Obviously nothing compared to what he'd go on to do.
I could have gone for other examples, there are tons of surprisingly young but very successful military and political leaders in history. Plus child prodigies these days in a lot of areas.
TL;DR, the idea of the adolescent being this extended period where a child turns into an adult is a very recent thing in society. Even one hundred years ago you were expected to sort your own shit out by 13 or 14, and it's not like Lyanna Mormont is a three-year-old. She looks like she's in her early teens.
>>71426188
>walks around stomping on everyone's nuts
She has like two scenes. One is getting sweet talked by an old man into helping Jon's war effort and then her pointing out that even though she's a little girl and only had 60 guys to contribute, she still fucking contributed when the rest wanted to hide.
I can't even tell what you're jaded about at this point because you're blowing it way out of proportion.
>>71426058
The only thing that bugs me about that scene is that nobody pointed out the elephant in the room that all the northerners besides Jon and Sansa were either all old as fuck or children, they set up the point that the North is spent from all the way but didn't bother to mention it at all.
>>71425319
Absolutely not. Kids are cute.
>>71424639
>Source: my ass
>>71426276
I don't know if you're fucking with at this point, but it does. People put up with "charismatic" people like Kanye because he has made some amazing songs. He has a reason to think he's hot shit. This little girl has none except for backing a power player (which everyone should have done because Ramsay was comically evil).
>>71426317
I wouldn't say early teens. She looks like she's ten to me. It just doesn't flow right and comes off as very phony speaking. Maybe you're right and there have been kids as young as her who can actually convince a room of adults on a topic, but I'm not sure if it's the actress or writing, but something feels very wrong to me.
>>71426321
I dislike poor writing and poor characters. If by "getting sweet talked" you mean three adults had to come and beg for a handful of men to a cold reception, yeah, okay.
I don't think I'm blowing it out of proportion at all. This girl with no reason to feel cocky other than she gave a couple dozen men to a multiple-thousand army was able to convince adult men to make a man King in the North. It's just sloppy and quick.
>>71426438
It's weird they put that in but cut Maege Mormont shouting "The King of Winter!" in the first King in the North scene.
>>71424639
Why were Bran and Arya portrayed as actual childen early on but this chick gets to be an adult in a kid's body?
>>71424639
>Not linking to the Twitter link
What a faggot
>>71426438
>I don't know if you're fucking with at this point
I'm not. She has charisma while your posts have a repelling effect. It's understandable why you think her charisma is unearned.
>only six months left for fatman to finish writing TWoW before it can no longer be published by the start of the next season
will he make it?
>>71426533
George's bad skills are writing ages was actually kind of solved by the show and one of the few things it did right. Every character was WAY too young in the books to thinking how they were. Wasn't Rickon literally 4? But he got a DIREWOLF?
Then yes they made a big mis-step with this character. Just poor writing.
>>71426563
Yeah sweet baseless argument man. Great talking to you.
>>71426438
>If by "getting sweet talked" you mean three adults had to come and beg for a handful of men to a cold reception, yeah, okay.
>Completely cold and unreceptive, whispering with her advisors after every word
>Until Davos uses his child whisperer powers to appeal to her
>She stops having her advisors whispering in her ear when he talks to her
>It's what convinces her to lend support
If you don't call that being sweet talked, then I don't know what to tell you. And you are completely blowing it out of proportion. You are projecting something onto her that doesn't exist.
>This girl with no reason to feel cocky
You don't need to feel cocky to speak your mind at a meeting. She's the lord of a noble house. It doesn't matter if she's nine or ninety, it demands respect.
I personally have problems with stuff in the last episode because of pacing, I do think it feels sloppy and quick, but not because of this one character who has spoken twice. This character isn't the cause or even emblematic of all the big cliffhangers being shoved together in the same episode and literal months of time being rushed over from scene to scene.
>>71426438
>I don't know if you're fucking with at this point, but it does. People put up with "charismatic" people like Kanye because he has made some amazing songs. He has a reason to think he's hot shit.
You literally have no idea what charisma is. Charisma isn't earned. No one puts up with Kanye's shit because he's charismatic. Many people find him annoying.
Charisma is, by definition, just some intangible quality that a person has that compels devotion.
>>71426601
>if she's nine or ninety, it demands respect.
The other poster thinks she's too big for her britches and needs to be taken down a notch.
>>71424639
Isn't rape the standard? And a 12-year-old rape seems like the edgy shit these hacks would shit out.
>>71424639
It doesn't matter because his books are not relevant anymore.
>>71426533
Because bran and arya were kids living with their parents in a big castle.
Lyanna has been put in charge of a whole house at a young age so she's obviously matured quickly.
I don't know why everyone is so pissed at her convincing all the northeners. She was right and said it, she just shamed all the lords into realising their position.
>>71426649
And I'm saying that speaking your mind at a meeting when you're the lord of a noble house isn't that big for her britches. He only thinks that because speaking his mind publicly is unfathomable to him.
>>71424750
Except not at all.
>>71426601
How do you not feel this character is very responsible for it being sloppy and quick? You say she only spoke twice, but both of those times were to save a shitload of screen time. Her first scene makes her out to be a character who apparently deserves respect, despite Mormont being a shameful house with low force numbers. Then, her second scene she is conveniently the one to convince an entire room to worship Jon as King in the North (way to dodge the Manderly plot entirely) because of her very small commitment.
If that's not sloppy and quick I don't know what is.
>>71426645
Yet many others defend him because of his accomplishments. People who are "charismatic" without a real reason to be are considered cocky and and have no problem being hated for the undeserved sense of publicity and power. This girl is one of those kinds of people. I know "charismatic" guys who are hollow and have no reason to be. It's very easy to see through the image.
>>71426702
>so she's obviously matured quickly
Riiiigght
Any old excuse you can think of, huh? This has never been stated or implicated, it's just your headcanon to explain away bad writing.
>>71424639
>Already killed Dacey in the books
God fucking damn it George, stop killing Mormonts.
>>71426738
>charismatic" without a real reason to be are considered cocky
Not poster but you still don't grasp what charisma is.
>>71424639
Since GRRM likes to take inspiration from history, how about a certain assassin crawls through a sewer and shoves a red-hot poker up her ass?
>>71426569
I'm hoping that it's all a giant hoax. The books are already pretty much ready and they just planned to release them after the show ends.
The first one of them is going to come out in time for the christmas of 2018 and the last on on the summer of 2019.
>>71424639
the books are no longer canon
nobody cares about books anymore
>>71426829
Yes, charm. It's pretty simple. Problem is this character has no concrete reason to be capable of any charming or influence. She's "tough" with very little reason to be. It's hollow charisma. It doesn't make sense.
>mfw faggots on /tv/ arguing about what charisma is
>>71424639
She marries an honourable lord and they live in peace and happiness for the rest of their lives?
>>71426960
While secretly being king jon's mistress
>The plot for the books is nowhere near done, that GRRM has time to actually add more "character" to Lyanna Mormont
Can we now accept that he's just a hack writing for shock value?
>>71426910
No.
>>71426918
even Tommen GTFO from this plot hole show
I had a dream of Samwell getting relentlessly bullied by her
fucking hell the big guy can't catch any breaks..
inb4
>big ass fight vs Night King
>everyone scared
>bear loli charge first with 60 good men behind her
>all of them ride bears
>best girl
>>71426738
>Her first scene makes her out to be a character who apparently deserves respect
Her first scene establishes that she's curt and direct. It sets the groundwork for her being direct and harsh when she addressed the other lords later. I'm not going to blame the character for the show's writers shoving three massive plot points into the same episode without giving any of them their due time.
And you're being an idiot about the charisma debate. You fundamentally don't understand that people can be intrinsically charming. You keep conflating with charisma with confidence. I can continue a conversation with you about whether or not the girl's character is good for the show or not, but you are out and out wrong and being retarded about the concept of charisma.
>>71425490
kek
>>71427649
*weirdly curt and direct for a ten year old.
Listen. This shit has gone on long enough and I've had enough vodka so this'll be my last post about this fucking Mormont.
I do not misunderstand the concepts of charisma and confidence. Charisma is always tagged with something. You can be charismatic all you want, but without some sort of backing, be it image, money, power, ANYTHING, you're taken as a joke. There is no such thing as being magically "charismatic", there is always another factor. Literally always.
This young Mormont showed up with nothing to her name other than sending a handful of men to a slaughter. Sure, it was right, but she used this magic "charisma" she downloaded to convince a room of people despite having no backing to her name. As I've said, people can sense hollow charisma. It's baseless charm. You're offering or fighting for more than you can bite.
If you really think this character is anything other than a pandering scene-shortening loser, I'm sorry but you're wrong.
>>71427515
>you will never fuck her
so what happened to the other mormont? With the disease ??
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>>71426849
Its from the fake twitter account. GRRM real twitter is him talking about hanging out with Stephen King and the NFL.
The old men could've pulled an Olenna on her. Tell her to shut up before a sentence is even formed. If that's too rude, let her speak, but mock her afterwards with baby talk. Whadda cute widdle bwear, now run along, child.
>>71425077
he never said he was almost done. the last update was 6 months ago and he said he still said it wasn't close to being finished. this will at least give him another excuse to keep his editor at bay for missing yet another deadline. works better than i was busy relentlessly promoting my stupid movie theatre in santa fe, new mexico or wherever the fuck he lives.
>>71424928
loled @ this 4 sum reason
>>71425144
id like to give her Steve's oil
(my name is Steve)
>>71426188
>It's a shameful house that has has its two last main members banished or sent to the wall.
You literally are retarded. Jeor willingly went to The Wall to allow Jorah to take over the House. The Wall isn't just a place to send criminals, its an honor to be a member of the Night's Watch. Or rather, used to be. Jorah married the wrong woman and had to resort to slavery to afford the elegance she wanted and then fled to Essos. Hes the only disgrace. He left with his wife and forced Lyanna into a leadership position, which made her mature up right quick.
>>71428175
Ugh I wanted to stop posting but you're so stupid it hurts.
I'm not retarded. The Wall has been regarded as a shit place to be and send people for a while now, Jorah broke the law and was banished, sure Jeor is honorable for taking the position, but it puts a stain on the house.
Don't say it's a fucking "honor" to be there when for most is literally death or The Wall, asshole.
>>71426188
jeor mormont voluntarily abdicated his lordship in favor or jorah and went to the wall of his own volition. jorah is the only "shameful" member of house mormont.
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>>71428250
sorry i hadn't updated the thread to see you had already posted this.
>>71428246
>Don't say it's a fucking "honor" to be there when for most is literally death or The Wall, asshole.
That's because it became a dumping ground for murderers and criminals. It wasnt always like that. The Night's Watch protect the realm, its an honor to become a member. Just because it has become a tradition to dump criminals and such there doesnt mean it isnt an honor to serve the realm. Asshole.
>>71428246
It being a shitty place is only for the lowborn criminals. The highborn members of the Watch certainly aren't considered poorly for their decision to join. Think of the Watch as something like Monastic or Religious Orders in real life for the highborn. It's an honorable option for second or third sons who won't inherit shit.
>>71426702
Bran was put in charge of Winterfell when everybody else was absent if you remember, he found it boring and needed Maester Luwin to help him with everything. Thats how a child in rule should be portrayed, It doesnt even matter if the child is good at it, they will never speak or act in exactly the same way as an adult. Its as if Lyanna was given the lines of a big burly northern man.
>>71428305
No, not "always", but it has been that way for centuries, moron. Nobody believes in the Night King. It's literally where you go if you are a bastard or a young son with no entitlements in an attempt to gain your house "honor".
The Wall is a joke. The last two Mormonts are jokes as well. It's a pathetic house, almost as stupid as Karstarks.
>>71428336
Again, not anymore. It's where you send kids with no chance of titles. The books make multiple mentions of house meaning NOTHING, there's a fucking Targaryen there but nobody cares.
>>71426569
of course not. if you have a farm, bet the whole fucking thing and cash that check with a giant smile on your face.
>>71426871
taken 11 years to put out the last 2mediocrebooks but they're really done and it's all just a giant hoax because the book publishers would agree to lose millions in profits by waiting to release the books until the HBO series already gave away the ending. makes perfect sense.
>>71424639
>bear loli
dis a meme?
>>71428339
Bran was only in charge for at most a year. Lyanna has been in charge for several years, which is why shes hardened more. Bran is also sweet and kind and is constantly described as such, whih is why he wasn't as curt.
>>71428360
Read his post again, because he is completely right.>>71428336
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>>71428266
No worries!
>>71428438
Read it again, completely wrong. It's kind of the point RR is trying to make. The Wall NEEDS these smarter people for its defense but it's only getting baseborn rapists and killers. It's a giant joke house. Jon is sent as a bastard, Benjen because he has no chance of succession.
If you really think The Wall has been honorable, despite all of the broken destitute fortresses, I am so sorry for you and I hope you learn how to read.
>>71426188
Are you stupid or something? That shit has nothing to do with charisma.
>>71428339
Yeah, because the duties of the largest city in the north is the same as some small frontier realm. Also Bran was depressed and despondant because he was a cripple and more of the bureaucratic bullshit was laid to him.
I seriously doubt the Bearloli had to deal with so much shit, and ruling a small frontier realm would've insulated her but still given her wisdom beyond her time. Everything she said was mostly idealistic anyway, which is not something you need a veteran statesmen for; younger rulers generally still believe in ideals and concepts like honor because the disappointments and cynicism of life haven't made a mantle on their shoulders yet.
I really don't see why this character seems so hard to grasp. GoT/ASoIaF readers and viewers are stupid, dense people.
>>71428534
Already answered in the thread. Read more. You don't understand charisma as well as you think you do.
>>71428549
Okay, you're definitely stupid.
>>71427911
He's wandered off in search of a cure because his Queen told him to go do that.
Guess who's going to meet Melisandre. Who IIRC was the one who cured Shireen, since Stannis initially only had her around because someone from the religion managed to help here where the Maesters and healers failed.
>>71428609
Sweet argument. Charisma isn't as simple as your mom and dad said, champ. Hope you learn how to think constructively someday,
https://twitter.com/GRRMspeaking/with_replies
he didn't tweet shit
>>71428628
Are you saying Jorah will get the flaming hand?
>>71428639
There's no point in arguing with you because others have already explained very clearly what it's about, while you're talking about a whole different concept which has nothing to do with charisma. Discussion is pointless if you refuse to even realise what the subject is.
>>71428728
Interesting point, because you're completely wrong. I've discussed charisma down to its bare definition which nobody here seems to get. Apparently you idiots thing charisma is magic, which is hilarious.
I'll give you points though, I said I would stop posting about your weird loli fantasies and haven't, so that's my bad.
>>71428336
Or like the military in the 18th and 19th centuries. It was an honourable profession for gentlemen, who'd be officers or cavalry, but everyone else was scum.
>>71424639
I hope he makes the wildlings gangrape her to death. That would be so cute :3
>>71424663
kek
