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>suffering & despair - the TV show

is BSG actively trying to drive me into suicide? season 4 is the most depressing thing I have watched in a long time.
was this a post 9/11 thing or what the hell was wrong with the producers and writers of this show?
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Why ? I watched it a month ago and it was really cool
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I fucking loved BSG, the way they played action and suspense of the fleet during events with a nice handful of despair really worked out well.
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Stop watching now

The ending is complete shit minus the space battle
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>>71400561
>>suffering & despair - the TV show

The true suffering is that the whole show is a ruse and the writers were making it up as they went along.
The Cylons never had a plan at all.
Prepare for a shitty ending.

It was just another LOST.
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>>71400684
>earth is an uninhabitable wasteland
>after a nice date with apollo dualla (pic related) shoots herself in the fucking head
>the chief's wife gets spaced
>adama and saul both try to kill each other / commit suicide
>president lost the will to live
>all the kids die
>major kira dies of cancer
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>>71400561
What really pissed me off was the unresolved constant sexual tension between Lee and Starbuck. They fucked like what? once in the whole series?
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>>71400972
>It's in da frakkin ship
I suggest you to watch the entire last season. I was really satisfied by the end of the show.
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>>71401115
Not every bit of sexual tension ever gets acted upon unfortunately.
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Dr Baltar, I'm CAG.
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>>71401115
yeah, in a new caprica flashback in the boxing episode in season 3. actually a very great episode.
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>>71401244
One of my favourites my man
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>>71401279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwpt092O7U

yeah, mine too so far.
also the only uplifting episode of the entire 3rd season if I remember correctly.
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>>71400972
>major kira dies of cancer
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>>71400972
That was what I most enjoyed about Revelations and Sometimes a Great Notion
When they find Earth, everybody is absolutely ecstatic. They're crying tears of joy and hugging each other and kissing in celebration. Lee even jumps on the command console in the CIC and strips his jacket off in elation.
You can see it. They've done it. All the hard work, all the effort, all the sacrifice to finally achieve their goal.

Then they find Earth and it's an apocalyptic wasteland. They traded 12 nuked colonies for 1. They can't even settle because of the background radiation.
Then you see the impact it has on the crew. Graffiti on the walls, fistfights among the crew, people just abandoning their posts, men weeping in the corridors, suicides everywhere.

If there was one thing this show could do, it was convey despair.
And fucking how.
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>>71400561
sigh

I knew this shit was going off the rails the second they started humanizing the Cylons who knew they were Cylons
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Threadly reminder that Felix Gaeta did nothing wrong
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>>71401186
i'd give up earth for 6
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>>71401440
I skipped all of those scenes
I had enough of her shit in Star Trek
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>>71401186
boomer has a really disappointing body. I considered her a cute when I was watching it
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>>71401186
>wanting 6 instead of prime long-haired Starbuck
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>>71402431
Callie was the qt'est and got more screen time, but Racetrack always got my blood moving.

/tv/ who do you pick?
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>>71400950
yeah, ron moore is a self-described believer in the "make it all up as you go, so as to force yourself to have creative flashes you couldn't have had in advance" school of serial storytelling. when that turns out well, it's great, but it also means bsg wrote itself into corners on several occasions.
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>>71400561
u only watch marvel capeshit i take it?
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>>71402669
Yeah but Callie was a two-timing whore who cucked the chief and made him raise another man's baby
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>>71402669
>tfw you'll never be racetrack's ECO
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>>71402794
that wasn't the real cally though. the writers wrote themselves into a corner in s4 and had to get rid of all the cylon babies. the real cally aka s1-3 cally was a loyal wife and mother. jeez, she let the chief beat her to a pulp and still loved him.
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>>71400950
the way i see it is "the plan" was six getting balthar to give up the codes and take over caprica
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>>71402116
Yeah. Their promised land was proven to be a false hope, the thing that had kept them going for so long appeared to be completely false.

Of course BSG was always about the tribes of Israel looking for their promised land. I forget my old testament, but wasn't there some place that Moses found that wasn't the promised land? Maybe you can consider stopping at Mt Sinai and people losing faith? I dunno. They played it even looser with that theme than G1 BGS.
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>>71402916
Huh. Never thought about it like that.
I suppose if you think of the characters as being separate people in season 4, it kinda makes sense.
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>>71403099
in the case of cally it totally makes sense.
they couldn't just kill all the cylon babies so they had to come up with something different. either way, that was not the real character but the writers frakking up.
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the show went shit when the best Admiral dies

the woman admiral had more ballz than the entire Adama familia
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>>71401178
Fuck I loved this shit. I'd wipe my memory of this show just so I could watch it for the first time again. It was the first full series that I watched like that and I was hooked
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>>71402669
Racetrack was my waifu
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>>71403274
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>>71402669
>>71403389
racetrack was part of gaeta's mutiny and should've been shot.
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>>71400561
What did she mean by this?
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>>71402669
Daily reminder Pegasus crew > Galactica crew.

Admiral Cain did nothing wrong.
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Has any show ever had a cuter cast of cuties?
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>>71403487
Just reminded me of how stupid the ending was for her
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>>71403537
I thought it was good. Why do you feel that way?
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>>71403412
yeah that one

I honestly thought there would be some kind of change for the show with some actual military discipline instead of herp derp politics subplots when cylons are shooting at you most of the time...

and later on, they should have not let Pegasus die, it was just retarded.
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>>71403501
well, you're a psychopath

>>71403532
omg the cutest
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>>71403588
>she died
>but she didn't
>she actually did, but she's still here
>whatever, let her stay
>reach the promised land
>start talking with lee
>he turns his head
>bam she's gone

wtf were they thinking
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>>71403501
This, this, this, a million times this
I will never not rage about Laird. Dud was a civilian engineer who was lucky enough to escape nuclear holocaust only to wind up seeing his family shot in front of him before being conscripted into the colonial fleet. And for all his work, for the crime of simply doing his job and following regulations, he got a wrench in the back of the head. Fuck.
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>>71403668
That's a fairly accurate albeit reduced summation of what happened, but I'm asking why in particular do you have a problem with it?
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>>71403624
Looks like someone doesn't have what it takes.
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>>71403679
remind me when that dude died and why
been a while since I watched and some minor side chars and their deaths elude me
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>>71403501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvVpDCQ9IY4

damn I loved the pegasus characters and shaw in particular. too bad there was not enough time to give them a proper development.
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>>71403716
Because it doesn't make sense, is never explained, and the ending itself is very unsatisfying (whatever, I'll just vanish)
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>>71402315
>have to watch some shit quality $20 budget webisodes to fully understand his motivations
no, fuck bitch Gaeta
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>>71403716
she died and came back as some sort of angel. baltar talks about angels walking amongst them in s4, after analyzing the blood of starbuck's corpse.
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>>71402669
Yeah she was really cute. The actress does bit parts here and there.
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>>71403966
was meant for >>71403668
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>>71400561
i thought it was very depressing as well. mostly because I was waiting for it to get interesting and it never did.
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>>71401186
its gettin hot in here
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>>71400561
>what the hell was wrong with the producers and writers of this show?

when you're finished with the show go listen to alle the commentary tracks.
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>>71400561
>rewatching BSG on DVD
>finish the episode
>see the anti-piracy warning afterwards
>mfw it was all VHS tapes
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>>71400561
have you reached the mutiny?

god damn that was fucking good
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>>71403274
based Ensign Ro finally got a command position
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>>71405009
>when you're finished with the show go listen to alle the commentary tracks.

w-why? curioso
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>>71406166
well OP wanted to know wtf was going on with BSG's darkness and the commentary tracks cover that pretty well. also they're super interesting in general.
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>>71406262
expecially the S4 midseason finale and the early episodes of S4.5 commentaries give a lot of insight.
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>>71400561
I miss this show. Boy did they drop the ball on Caprica. So much potential.

No lead-up to the war.
No scenes in space; A sci-fi show with not a single scene in space.
No Viper I flying around.
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>mfw the Pegasus should have been kept

Lees a fucking idiot
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>>71406597
Pegasus had a Viper manufacturing bay, just a reminder.

But, one could argue William Adama was the fleet, and the Galactica was its beacon.
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>>71402991
If that was 'the plan' there was no reason to hunt humanity to extinction. They had won by the end of the miniseries.

It was hinted at consistently that the plan was some sort of religious, pseudo-mystical prophecy coming true, that was the point of the zealot Cylon and his fixation on Kara Thrace. But it went nowhere because the writers were just winging it.

The end of the series is a huge copout, almost as bad as Lost. In many ways worse, because the show had much more potential.
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>>71406597
exodus part2 was a fucking great episode, pegasus' cheap death put aside.
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>>71406597
I'll never forgive him for that
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>>71406539
>No scenes in space
>It's a show about a Colony (planet)
I actually really liked it; parts of it felt like there was little to no thought put into it. Putting the Adama family in it felt like a huge error; I would have preferred shared universe but narratively completely detached from BSG. All their scenes felt weirdly anachronistic anyway.
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>>71400950
>the opera
meaningless
>kara is the harbinger of death
meaningless
>leobens interest in kara
meaningless
>'and they have a plan'
meaningless
>god's big plan for gaius
meaningless
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>>71400561
>poor dualla

probably one of the best twists / shocks of the entire show though.
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>>71407199
>the operahouse was just gaius and 6 running around a cylon base
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BSG thread? Hot damn!
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>>71408133
fat lee was funny as fuck
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>>71408181
when married to >>71400561 why would you let yourself go this much?
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>>71400972
>frak earth

one of the best shots of the entire show. I love it.
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>>71408264
Idk, married men often let themselves go. Plus she was cute, but seemed kinda retarded and desperate to be loved. She would probably take anyone.
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>>71400561
BSG gave me the same feelings.

I liked BSG, but I had to watch it in spurts. Too much made me too down and depressed, it really was dry.
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>>71400561
It was intentionally post 9/11 themed. At least the miniseries was.
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>>71402669
Callie became an annoying bitch after finally landing the Chief. Racetrack was just okay. She was totally banging Skulls though, right?
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>>71402192
>sigh
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>tfw no Grace Park Cylon sexbot gf to cuddle
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>>71406877
The plan was Cavil wiping out humanity so that the "final five" would stop loving them. That's why the Caprica Cavil thought they had made a mistake because he realize that if they killed humanity, the final five would love just them more.

Wasn't quite that simple, but that's the jist of it. He also wanted to prove that designing them like humans was a mistake.
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Underrated character

I like how he was basically a good person, but was just weak willed to do what was right. I don't know why, but he sold that really well.
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>>71400561
I stopped watching in season 3.

1 and 2 was pretty great though.
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>>71410062
What do you think?
Of course he ordered the frakking attack
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>>71409853
this reminds me I need to watch Hawaii 5-0 again
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>>71409665
Which was a shame because she was a total qt before that
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>>71409888
TRIPLE EIGHT !
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>>71401115
They were fucking constantly on the algae planet
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>>71410196
I hope you've avoided enough spoilers not to retroactively ruin all that was good about the first seasons
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>>71403668

although factually correct, it resonates with the theological and mystic themes so i was not bothered by it

farewell's are hard
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>>71408264
>>71408734

Same reason his dad grew a mustache: They were depressed over the New Caprica shitshow.
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>>71410062
You can't rape a machine, Lieutenant
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I'm getting my men
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>>71400561
I think they took some package with them from season three but not only the characters but the writers too. They suddenly abandoned the concept they had for continuing to live on the planet and just went back to business as usual. So somehow all they got to do was throw in differences between them which wasn't the worst idea.

It just disappoints more later one when they are going to introduce their crazy Cylon roulette for main characters.
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