Memes aside, why do so many women lack any interest or understanding of this movie? I've read numerous anecdotes on this board about it and have experienced it myself. Why is this so?
There are no women in it
The concepts of honour, loyalty and pride in your country are foreign to them.
I watched it with my gf and she really loved it. After end credits she asked me if I know some other movie/tv show with similar atmosphere set in that era, so we watched Hornblower and she loved that too.
Its really just a meme dude.
>>71214832
No it's because there's no conflict OVER a woman in it. The conflict in this film is one primarily one of ideological and personal difference between Aubrey and Maturin. Duty, Honor and Pride versus Intellectualism, Egalitarianism and Secularism is the crux of this conflict and the film's backdrop of the Napoleonic Wars is largely symbolic of this clash. Both of these men, though friends, influence the young midshipman Blakeney in their respective views; using him as a vessel to demonstrate the pros and cons of each of their perspectives. By the end of the film this ideological conflict has been settled as both Aubrey and Maturin put aside their differences to fight the French and Blakeney develops a sort of dialectical balance between the two men - ingesting the best parts of their respective ideologies.
Women can't understand this film as they cannot understand conflict unless it's framed in a context of a third party. That is, either in the context of suffering at someone else's hands, or being fought over by someone else. Women most enjoy films in which a woman, or any character, experiences conflict as a witness or victim. This is why women love 'Strong Women' films in which a woman gets revenge or overcomes some sort of tragedy inflicted by some else. They cannot understand the sort of conflict in this film wherein these two men clash not over what they have done to one another, but in their ideological disparity.
>>71214784
They just think sawing off the kids arm is wrong and bad and evil instead of understanding shit was different back then
>>71214784
We watch, we understand, we empathise. We see ourselves on the land, getting enrolled in the Navy, completing the adventure. We can envision the ship being built and floating on the water. We know the team of men can administer and control the ship to complete the world tour.
women ask
>why did they leave the land
>why are they at sea
>why are they organized like that
>why does he want to find the new animals
>do they not get bored
>whats the point of being at sea
This meme.
Now i want to show this movie to my gf just to see what she thinks
>>71215124
nice
>>71214784
Not all women hate it. When I first saw it right after the battle I just had to rewind the entire thing cause it was so amazing to experience watching those scenes. I love movies that give you that experience, but yes it is rare finding other women who like it as much as I do. They simply like simpler movies and fail to see points entirely.
It's my niece's favourite movie, I bought her the blu ray for Christmas and she's watched it like 8 times
wat
That's my Mom's favourite movie
I thought it was a girl film like Titanic
>>71215124
>fucking nailed it
>>71215194
Post your pinkie finger
>>71215194
tits or gtfo
>>71215116
Hornblower and Sharpe HD torrents where?
>>71215116
How similar is Hornblower? I don't want to watch a shitty version of Master\Commander
>>71215124
I'm screencapping this for future threads on this subject.
>>71215328
it's already been a copypasta for over a year anon, you didn't think all the countless "movies that women will never understand" threads were just a dead end did you? just goes to show, "women".
>>71215414
If the pasta is a year old, then how come I haven't seen it before even though I've been 4channing for 3 months now? Explain that, I dare you.
>>71215414
Tbh senpai I don't ever recall seeing a copypasta like that before. Similar ones, sure, but not the same as that anon posted.
>>71214784
Napoleonic era sailing appeals to the autistic side of the male brain
>>71215442
I can't
>>71214784
This is in my wife's top three favourite films
>>71215619
What about her son?
>>71215683
He prefers the works of Spike Lee
>>71215683
Jokes on you. She hates blackies.
>>71215741
which is why she finds it so arousing to have sex with them
>>71215124
Can I save this?
>>71215442
>3 months
fresh outta reddit
They just think the two dudes were gay
Concepts such as loyalty, honor, integrity and the warrior spirit itself are utterly alien to a woman. All she cares about is constantly representing herself toward the outside world and bitching about something/making inappropriately snarky and hurtful remarks toward others at every turn
>>71214784
>Memes aside
>>71216161
>the warrior spirit itself
things women will never understand
>>71214784
I went to see this back in 2003 with my friend (we were both 14) and his mother, who was really cool.
We all agreed that is was very long, but otherwise enjoyable.
>>71214784
>Memes aside
Nice try OP
This probably wouldn't be the time to raise the subject of how close Jack and Stephen get to fighting a duel over Diana Villiers. Not that a bunch of shit-thick aliterate wankers like you would know about Patrick O'Brian.
>>71215116
this
>>71216161
you're right about the representation anon but we all have an ego, women just have one that is more fragile and dependant on their self-image. bitching is just one of many such manifestations and i feel sorry for you if you've never met a woman who refrains from this cowardly behaviour.
>>71216401
>women
>ego
>fragile
I don't think you know what a fragile ego is, anon. No woman would submit to sex if they had an ego.
>>71216401
>women just have one that is more fragile and dependant on their self-image. bitching is just one of many such manifestations
so...most people in this thread and /tv/ more generally are women? how about that
>>71215194
Who do you think you're kidding mate?
>>71216476
in you get, buster
>>71216525
Don't ever fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
>>71215124
>>71216432
look up the definition of ego, it means to have a sense of self. are you honestly trying to tell me that women don't perceive their environment as being different from themselves?
>>71216449
don't get me wrong anon, i hate sluts as much as the next guy. it just seems as though you actually believe that your narrow, shitty life experiences constitute an acceptable opinion. i'd advise you to finish high-school, get out into the world and meet more women, lose your virginity, father some children, live with a woman and then come back here and post your 2 cents on an autonomous taiwanese avocado itinerary board.
>>71214784
If it's something that won't get them attention in some way, they're not interested. Their hobbies include taking pictures of oneself, vanity, self-praise and thinking up ways to word it as if her other hobbies aren't completely selfish.
Anyway, I guess it's because if they text during it and then ask what's happening, men have the balls to say "shut up and watch" unlike any other time with any other movie.
>>71216678
What would happen if the two men in that pic were women instead?
>>71216986
They would look at each other with murdering looks because their outfits are too similiar. Then they would sit as far as possible from each other and post false gossip on twitter about how much of a whore the other one is.
>>71215124
beautifully put
Women have no concept of honoring a higher cause than themselves.
This is why nationalism is so hard to gain traction these days. It only takes one woman to throw a spanner in the works of Man's potential for greatness.
>>71214784
I've always heard about this movie like the ultimate "women will never understand"
I watched it with my mom last week, and I expected a TRUE "women will never understand" like Papillon, Taxi Driver, Midnight Cowboy, Un Homme qui Dort, Once Upon a Time in America, etc.
But it wasn't like that, it had honor, friendship, and feels that only a man could feel... but i expected something else. It's my fault for trusting /tv/.
Still a great movie tho, my mom and I loved it.
My husband's daughter quite enjoys it.
>>71215124
>>71215153
>>71216161
>>71216678
>>71217112
>I know perfectly how all women think... these bitches are superficial, selfish and have no honor like ME!
>>71217232
>Women are perfect, immaculate beings. Now if they could just see that I'm the perfect man for them..."
>>71216986
>they glare for a second
>then look away like they weren't
>class lets out
>there's screeching in the halls
>one is on the other and scratching her face
>>71214784
Was Paul Bettany's character an irish spy? I've seen different people comment on it on different threads but I don't remember this fact being alluded to or implied in the film when I saw it.
Because the movie is a metaphor for relationships
From a man's standpoint
It has tons of golden lines
>These people are not your friends
Women in relationships are not your friends, once you treat them as equals they slowly lose respect for you
>Men need to be governed
Etc.
The entire movie is basically about learning to manage bitches
>>71217655
In the books this is true. In the films, however, it's implied that he's a friend of Jack's whom the latter asked to join the mission. They do allude to him being a spy, though.
>>71215442
>3 months
Somebody get this lubbard outta here!
>>71215124
Id swear this was written by a film major, Bravo.
>>71217232
Find me a woman and make her explain honor
A single woman
I dare you
>>71214784
Because it's about homosexuality. Didn't you catch the subtext?
>>71217232
>>71217256
oh man you rekkt me so hard. If you showed women some of the respect they deserve you wouldn't be such a bitter fucking virgin asshole.
>>71215124
>post makes all women sound dumb and all men sound smart
>wow such genius insight.
you dumb cucks need to find a real girl. my gf would definitely understand it
>>71217708
Oh, cool. I don't remember the allusion though, it's been a while since I watched it. Gonna have to rewatch I guess.
>>71217815
>My girl is a REAL GIRL, she's not like these other dumb bitches
Every time
Apex kek
>>71217831
I think the exact quote occurs when they were discussing how the Endevour caught them by surprise to which the Doctor says "The French have their spies... as do we"
>>71217810
t. cuck
>>71217815
>my gf would definitely understand it
So she hasn't actually seen it then?
>>71215124
noice
>>71215124
this is so true!
all women are bitches who don't want to have sex with me
fucking whores, they don't understand the honor of a gentleman
>>71215124
Damn, son.
>>71217815
>your gf
>a woman
>>71214784
I understand this movie and im from london
>>71215124
upboated
>>71215124
I remember first time I got into a serious relationship.
I was so intensely hyped to show her all the stuff I loved, and to enjoy exploring all kinds of movies and fiction with her.
I am now engaged to a different woman, and I've completely given up on the thought of finding a girl who can also function as a human intellect to discuss and explore with.
They're just completely different animals all together. Sadly.
>>71217979
>>71217148
What exactly did you expect? /tv/ never said that women can't enjoy this film, just that they can't understand it.
>>71218546
you can't know if a women understands it or not
>>71214784
Its kinda true that some woman can't understand the themes of this movie but at the same times it's kinda just used to avoid any actual discussion of this movie.
Somewhat unrelated, but has women ever made anything of consequence?
I know that some great scientific discoveries were made by women (Marie Curie is the only one I can remember, though), but have females ever invented anything advanced and/or interesting?
Not trying to meme on women or anything - I'd really like to know.
Do they not have the same creative drive as we do?
>>71215124
Beautiful.
>>71215248
It's kind of a shitty version but isn't everything a shitty version of master and commander?
>>71216678
>that pic
I hope those guys became good friends, whilst the women is still looking for likes on tumblr
>>71217708
>we will never have another Master and Commander whilst we had 6 Pirates of the caribbean
Fuck this world.
How did this meme even start?
>>71218746
its because the patriarchy has kept them down for so long!
>>71219017
That's a good thing.
Only the first PoTC was really good.
MaC is a self-contained story and does not need (and would not benefit from) further embellishment.
>>71219090
We have hundreds of stories from the books its fucking embellished.
>>71215124
I love this autistic retarded post being right after
>>71215116
This normal helpful post
Thinking about this movie I've seen ages ago... did the movie not have not one single woman in it?
>>71215124
>>71218746
The reason behind this is probably, that they didn't get much of a chance to be creative or inventive because of patriarchy and shit
>>71219146
It had one, but she was only onscreen for a few seconds and didn't speak.
>>71215124
Never change /tv/
>>71219178
Well, they've been "free" since the 70's/80's certainly? A lot of insanely innovative shit has been made since then.
>sitting on couch next to gf
>see this thread
>"gf, did you see Master and commander?"
>"yah"
>"did you like it"
>"mmmh not really. it was so violent"
kek
also inb4 no gf
>>71215124
>>71219151
That's a big picture, anon
>>71219151
How wide is your fucking screen?
Jesus fucking Christ.
Don't maximize while capping ya fucking dumdum.
>>71219146
it has one, for about 5 secs, you barely even see her
>>71219021
the dawn of man
>>71219228
Yeah, but centuries of oppression are not just gone like that. It's like a prisoner getting free after 30 years of prison. He won't get a job as easily as other members of society and in a perverse way of stockholm syndrome maybe he wants to go back to prison. Most women still don't get into high positions. It still has taken over 36 years since the 70s for the concept of a female president of the US to seem legitimate and it still probably doesn't feel legitimate to most people.
>>71219384
But invention is most often a completely solitary task.
Most great inventors were social outcasts with no few friends and little to no social network.
It's not like you require society's support or guidance to invent or create.
>>71219060
>>71219178
this is unironically true
and only a virgin fedora would disagree
>>71219481
>no few
no/few
>>71215124
I love these threads
they're a personal highlight for me whenever I visit /tv/.
>>71214784
My mom loves this movie but she also loves Russel Crowe. 3:10 to Yuma is her favorite movie.
>>71219633
case in point: even when women like this kind of movie, it's only because they find the actors attractive
>>71214784
I know several women who love this movie and understand it completely.
according to IMDB women give this film just as high ratings as men do.
The reason people on /tv/ think women don't understand this film is because they don't actually know any women.
>>71219481
I mean, it's not like there hasn't been any female inventors. And even if most inventors prior to the 21st and 20th century have been social outcasts, they mostly got financial support from their parents or other sources to invent shit.
>>71219866
>>71219733
There is a difference between liking a movie and actually understanding it.
It got enough content that pushes female buttons but they fail to grasp the higher concepts.
>>71219866
it's a meme you dip
This thread reminded me of when I showed my ex the godfather 1. She said it had pretty colors.
>>71220022
well actually the youngest billionaire is a female inventor or something
>>71220209
ok shes not the youngest anymore,but she became a billionaire when she was 20 or something
>>71220209
the company she founded is literally bankrupt and a fraud
>>71216225
just remember to take the lesser of the two.
>>71220421
>http://www.forbes.com/profile/elizabeth-holmes/
hmm i seem to be getting mixed information from forbes about her
>>71216525
yeah man, leave him >>71216546 and his wife's son alone!
![Favim.com-cloud-strife-fanart-ff7-final-fantasy-final-fantasy-vii-98258[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gWBpb37.jpg "Favim.com-cloud-strife-fanart-ff7-final-fantasy-final-fantasy-vii-98258[2].jpg")
>>71215124
>tfw a board of anonymous neets and shitposters can articulate film study more beautifully and coherently than anyone on plebbit
>>71219090
because that was the first and last time he sailed a boat.
>>71217900
t. nu-male
>>71220918
>no u
This board is for people above 18, kid
>>71220998
>kid
This board is for people above 18, faggot.
>>71214784
What is this film anyway. Just a meme or legit watchable?
>>71220622
retard
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/01/technology/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-forbes/
>>71221038
>b-better just say the same things he does
Just end yourself. She's wanted you to do this for years now, just do it.
>>71221102
genuine 10/10
>>71220094
I said, I know several women who love this movie AND understand it COMPLETELY. Learn to read.
>>71215124
What did you mean by this?
>>71215124
>>71214784
I'm a guy, and while m&c is pretty good, a move like Gladiator for example is much better.
And women and men alike, both enjoy gladiator
>>71215116
She may have liked it, but she didn't understand it.
>>71214784
This movie is essentially anti-twilight.
There's no fantasy content in it about being a young cute girl for eternity whilst also doing the most important thing a person can do: give birth.
It's about duty. That's gonna dry up vag so fast.
>>71215124
Sounds about right.
>>71218908
No, Master and Commander is a shitty version of TNG.
Men fantasize about being stuck out in the wilderness and buttfucking each other so much that they take interest in things like navigation, military, naval warfare, and Russel Crowe.
Women fantasize about things like food and cats because they're objectively better than human babies.
>>71214784
M&C is absolutely entry level "women can't understand"core. Yeah the film is full of concepts they can't grasp or relate to and maybe they really can't "understand" it, but at the end of the day they can still enjoy it as a simple action film. You want a film that women literally cannot even enjoy? The Duellists. The entire movie is based around such staunch, traditional notions of male honor that not only will women not be able to understand virtually anything about the main characters, their motivations, or their actions, but they won't even enjoy watching the film because there really isn't anything else to it other than that. It's by far the film that women are least capable of understanding.
>>71219488
Sure, it's the patriarchy. Male and female brains are identical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaTc15plVs
>>71215124
Thanks.
>>71219384
>the concept of a female president of the US to seem legitimate and it still probably doesn't feel legitimate to most people.
It never will
>>71214784
Women don't understand the concept of honor.
>>71215116
Watch "The Bounty" with Anthony Hopkins.
>>71215124
This
We watched Ridley Scotts The Duelists in one of my film classes and the girls hated it because they couldn't fucking understand the movie.
>>71215153
No, those questions give meaning to the task at hand and is going on.
Women ask:
>are they gay
>what are their names again
>where are the minorities
>>71217810
>someone automatically deserves respect because of they have a vagina.
Respect is earned, not demanded. Welcome to reality.
>>71222234
Gladiator isn't a better movie you fucking pleb. Gladiator has no subtilty. It's far too black and white. It's a crowd pleasing blockbuster flick.
>>71225612
*crowd pleasing blockbuster kino
>>71215116
Bullshit she liked it. She probably just liked cuddling up with you and was staring blankly at the film.
T. Someone who was actually teased by a girl for liking "the boring Pirates of the Caribbean movie."
I wonder how many of you have watch this film with a woman or even know one who have watched it. I don't understand the meme women do get this film when I personally only know 2 people who have seen it. My question is what evidence do we have that women don't understand this film ?
>>71214784
IT'S BORING AS SHIT
>>71226150
See >>71225888
I convinced a girl to watch the movie and she absolutely hated it. She proudly told everyone in our group that she fell asleep during it and teased me for liking it and called it the boring Pirates of the Caribbean.
