[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
Based Sparrow did nothing wrong >empowers the poor people
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /tv/ - Television & Film

Thread replies: 62
Thread images: 8
File: highsparrow[1].jpg (34 KB, 600x401) Image search: [Google]
highsparrow[1].jpg
34 KB, 600x401
Based Sparrow did nothing wrong

>empowers the poor people
>upturns the rich houses that have been screwing over the poor of king's landing for centuries
>gets rid of sexual immorality like incest and homosexuality
>kicked Cersei's ass, who was the original badguy of the series
>convinced Tommen to ban trial by combat, a barbaric system
>>
This, but you know gurm is a fedora tipper and the show is made by Jews so that means religion is bad and so is the sparrow
>>
>empowers the poor people
>upturns the rich houses that have been screwing over the poor of king's landing for centuries

Fuck off commie.
>>
>>71179157
literally not a single one of those things is true
>>
>>71179132
yeah?
i'm not quite sure either Cersei or the sparrow are interesting tho

>>71179172
>Fuck off commie
says the dumbass lumpenprol
>>
Who said he did something wrong? Cersei? lel
>>
is he honest about his devotion or he just another ladder climber?
>>
>>71179238
Most normie GoT fans absolutely hate him, especially on reddit, facebook, tumblr, twitter. I think /tv/ is about 50/50 on him.
>>
>>71179274
The latter. All of the characters know it, even the biggest ladder climbers. That's why they're afraid of him.
>>
>>71179293
Because he's an antagonist. That's normal. It doesn't mean he did anything wrong, especially when the point of view character he's giving the most trouble with is someone like Cersei.
>>
>>71179293

These people have daddy issues. They just don't like strong male authority figures who do the right thing.
>>
>yfw berniebros will be literally BTFO
>>
>>71179132
>>71179157

GRRM's High Sparrow didn't do anything against homosexuals, though. He's also supported by emigrants from the war-torn North and the Riverlands, who are dindus, thus good guys.
>>
File: teutonic.png (322 KB, 400x535) Image search: [Google]
teutonic.png
322 KB, 400x535
>>71179132
>supported by some noblemens
>still using crowd of fanatics
Why? Burgers never heard about knightly orders?
>>
File: 39f415e4.jpg (42 KB, 450x368) Image search: [Google]
39f415e4.jpg
42 KB, 450x368
>>71179132
>every accusation about the Lannisters and Tyrells is true
>everything he says about nobility vs peasantry is true
>he's still such a cunt that he's actually making Cersei fucking Lannister look likeable and sympathetic in comparison
>>
>>71179172
Why do poor people always defend the plutocracy that enslaves them? Is it their lack of education? lack of pride? lack of honor? or lack of loyality towards their own class?
>>
>>71179735
Worse. They're American.
>>
>>71179132
and why should the poor be empowered, they're fucking retarded
>>
>>71179735
Why did the 30 or 40 countries that had a "revolution of the poor" last century all end up with a new dictator, famine, civic repression and mass murder?

Like every fucking one of them. Cuba is the goddamn success story because the famine was relatively small and more dissenters were imprisoned than shot.
>>
>>71179625
There is a knightly order in the books.
>>
>>71179132
>>71179657
It's presentation

If from the beginning it was shown he was a sympathetic character instead of bland and brutal he could get away with doing evil shit, like Bronn or Jamie can, in the eyes of the fans.
>>
>>71179795
m8 the context here is feudalism versus equality, like in the french revolution

not capitalism versus communism
>>
>>71179795

Can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs

It's like saying industrialisation is evil due to child labour

Or national socialism is evil because they missed some Jews
>>
>>71179795

>Cuba is the goddamn success story because the famine was relatively small and more dissenters were imprisoned than shot

Cuba is a success story because they literally couldn't afford to shoot everyone. The country is so shit everyone is still driving cars from 60 years ago. Smuggled in parts for those cars are like gold because of their rarity.
>>
>>71179881
>like in the french revolution
Otherwise known as the "Reign of Terror," and ending in a dictatorship that was much more dangerous than the old monarchy?
>>
>>71179923
You're right, why do we even have democracy these days? Better go back to feudalism.
>>
>>71179959
That's happening, too. Democracy was a mistake and it's being slowly rolled back all around the world.
>>
>>71179923
The old monarchy was the more dangerous one for the greater number of people.
>>
File: Chevrolet_Impala_1959_2.jpg (169 KB, 1024x768) Image search: [Google]
Chevrolet_Impala_1959_2.jpg
169 KB, 1024x768
>>71179909
>everyone is still driving cars from 60 years ago

going to cuba now, be seeing you
>>
this >>71179132
I get the impression Sparrow believes it is his duty to his country to unfuck the aristocracy, but Cersei and the others are too spoiled and can't accept the relatively minor punishments.
>>
>>71179976
>rolled back
[citation needed]
>>
>>71179293
I hate him because he destroyed cleganebowl.

But really I just find anything that happens in the south hilarious and in the grand scheme of things, pointless.
>>
>>71179923
pls be bait
>>
File: fh.png (392 KB, 792x1204) Image search: [Google]
fh.png
392 KB, 792x1204
>>71180002
>>
>cares more about homosexuals than kinslayers and necromancy
>'carpe diem' seize the gay
>>
>>71180031
>the south
>King's landing is actually closer to the north than it is to the southern tip of Westeros

>>71180084
>literally everywhere that matters is green
>>
>>71180120
>mongolia
>greenland
>iceland
yeah right pal
>>
>>71179132
His rise to power is one of the most retarded things in the show. A bunch of unfed skirt wearing fanatics usurping a city full of trained knights is rather unplausible.
>>
>>71180201
I didn't say that everything green matters, I said that everything that matters is green. Learn to read :^)
>>
File: designated shitting continent.png (295 KB, 640x430) Image search: [Google]
designated shitting continent.png
295 KB, 640x430
>>71180120
>literally everywhere that matters is green
>>
>>71180211
First one strong noble gave them power, and then when everyone saw how retarded that was they managed to get the king to listen. Far more retarded coincidences happened in reality.

>>71180238 see >>71180236
You people aren't exactly making this board seem very intelligent. I thought you'd at least be less retarded than /vg/.
>>
>>71179976
>>71180084
>oil prices drop
>shitty corrupt regimes go nuts
>this means people are rolling back democracy
no
>>
>>71180211
Realistically he would still win even if it came to full street warfare. The populace supports him and if combat were to break out then the nobles would be fighting against the entire population and economy of King's Landing.
>>
>>71179132
Trial by combat isn't a barbaric system
It's a HYPE system
>>
File: heroes of GoT.jpg (379 KB, 1920x1080) Image search: [Google]
heroes of GoT.jpg
379 KB, 1920x1080
>Cersei's trial concludes
>the High Sparrow says "For the crime of not knowing your place in our patriarchal society, I sentence you to-"
>NOT SO FAST
>the High Sparrow is immolated by Drogon's fire
>Daenerys Targaryen lands in the courtyard
>"Us strong female leaders have got to stick together ;)"
>Cersei, Daenerys and Yara ride off on dragons to fight the White Walkers
>and who
>are you
>>
File: WoWWotLKTitle-dragon.jpg (324 KB, 1920x1200) Image search: [Google]
WoWWotLKTitle-dragon.jpg
324 KB, 1920x1200
>>71180483
Be my guess
>>
He's literally Jerry Fallwell, fuck that cunt.
>>
>>71180483
>Cersei is a secret Targ
>that means Dany is her sister
>that means they can get married
>>
>>71180483
YOU SHALL NOT PASS

JUDGEMENT ON A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN WHO DINDU AND HAS THE RIGHT TO USE HER BODY HOWEVER SHE WANTS TO
>>
Cersei is such a dumbass. Chooses violence which in turn warns the sparrow about Robert Strong which in turn made the sparrow ban trial by combat via Tommen.
>>
>>71180238
80% of what's in that circle needs to be sterilized for the long term betterment of humanity.


But I also believe that is true for the area outside of the circle.
>>
>>71180702
Well, there are some secret Targs.
But I won't ruin it for you entirely.
>>
>>71181353
Liberal please.
>>
>>71181399
A perfect world of perfect people can be just over the horizon.

Help me create this perfect world?
>>
>>71179132
Poor people fucking suck. They're poor for a reason.
>>
>>71182424
If you were there you'd be one of them.
>>
>>71179735
I see them as deserving of their wealth, is that such a hard concept to understand? I wouldn't want a bunch of smelly poor people taking my earned money if I was in their position, why should I flip sides just because I'm not wealthy like they are?

That's the scummiest hypocrisy imaginable imo.

>>71182442
Everyone has their station in life
>>
>>71182424
>>71182482
>>71182442

It isn't fair to apply bourgeois concepts like people earning their wealth to a feudal system where people's stations are determined by their birth more than anything. The best someone can hope for in that situation is do what the sparrow did, learn a trade and go from a poor craftsman or merchant to a rich one, but even then your wealth would pale in comparison to even a minor nobleman.

That said it's also tough to try to reform the system to bring it in line with modern concepts of fairness because the society has such limited resources compared with an industrialized one. Only through a level of concentration of wealth which to us seems obscene do even the elites achieve a level of quality of life and personal development that fully realizes human potential. It's these elites who hold society together and raise it above the level of tribalism. Even Slaver's Bay's society can be excused when viewed through this lens because the extreme hardship of the slaves accommodates an extreme level of sophistication of the masters, a phenomenon acknowledged IRL by even the very individualistic and liberal minded Ancient Greeks.
>>
>>71182424
>>71182482
I don't know what you're so angry about.
If the religion in this tv show is analogous to Christianity, it probably has some teachings of social hierarchy.

Plus it's not like the High Sparrow is trying to overthrow the social order like what some of the protestants did in the reformation.

>>71182955
Commie detected.
>>
>>71183084

Bourgeois is the proper term for the value system that emerged from the medieval towns and rose to prominence supplanting the feudal order in the early modern period.
>>
>>71180382
He kinda reminds me of Stannis. Stannis believed in outlawing brothels, believed in the concept of merit and also the concept of justice. Oddly enough the people love the Sparrow and apparently hate Stannis. Probably due to the background he came from.
>>
>Retards ITT defending feudalism
How does it feel to be so cucked lads?
Thread replies: 62
Thread images: 8

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.