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HOLOCAUST DENIERS BTFO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcx43AmAyY

>Acclaimed writer and historian Deborah E. Lipstadt must battle for historical truth to prove the Holocaust actually occurred when David Irving, a renowned denier, sues her for libel.
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>Weisz
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>it's yet ANOTHER jews got killed in ww2
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>>70996005

Well I'm sure a lot of christians, catholics and muslims were too.
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>>70995982
>the whole world knows the the holocaust happened
Good goyim
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>must battle for historical truth to prove the Holocaust actually occurred
If it actually happened then they wouldn't have to "battle" to prove it, they would just prove it with facts
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>>70996027
>>the whole world knows the the holocaust happened
is that supposed to be sarcastic?
7 million people didnt vanish out of thin air you know...
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>>70996022
Yes, Im sure millions died, but I don't need to see a movie about the holocaust every 5 years or so.
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>>70996055
T'hat's fucking retarded Anon.
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>fund all sides of the war
>kill of few thousand of the low tier jews you despise
>why do the goyim question it!?
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>>70996055
It's totally reasonable to put people behind bars for questioning an absolute truth, goy!
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>>70996074
This anon is right, 8 million Jews didn't just disappear out of thin air
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>>70996055
are you stupid?
/pol/fags retardation never seizes to amaze and entertain me
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>>70996111
Not an argument.
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>>70995982
thank you fair merchants for enlightening us
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>>70996111
>never seizes to amaze me
JIDF needs to hire actual English speakers. This is sloppy.
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>>70996100
Accounting for everyone lost during it, the Holocaust literally claimed more than 12 million lives throughout Europe.

The fact that we need numerous movies to remind people of their actual history just shows the degradation of society as time moves on.
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>>70995982
I love Timothy Spall. He was good in Enfield Haunting aswell.

Also
>holocaust denier
Is there anyone that actually denies it? Most "deniers" I've seen seem to just have other figures abot how many died
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>>70996161
I agree the 20 million jews that were murdered by the evil Germans will never be forgotten
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>>70996161
Only Jews died in the Holocaust. Goyim deaths don't count. I literally had a Jew say this to me once.
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>>70995982
>those comments and dislikes on the video
How long until the media says that Ghostbusters haters are holocaust deniers?
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>>70996161
Why do we need holocaust movies all the time but no movies about the chinese civil war? It claimed almost as many lives.

Are you suggesting that only jews need to be remembered?

Fucking racist cunt fuck you.
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>>70996183
If you say that only 5,999,999 Jews died, you are a Holocaust Denier.
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>>70996161
this tbqh, you goys need to REMEMBER
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It's very easy to get millions of people to participate in a conspiracy and successfully maintain it for their entire lives. These Jew fellows are crafty and they can make it happen. The alternative explanation would be that a government systematically persecuted and murdered people, and when the fuck has that ever happened outside of science fiction?
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>>70996183
they are questioning what makes it the holocaust; the gassing
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>>70996216
>Why do we need movies to remind us of our history so we wont repeat the same mistakes instead of focusing on other civilizations who's history have no impact to ours?

Gee..I wonder
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The holocaust certainly did happen, i think it's silly to say otherwise. It's just that the number is most likely grossly exaggerated. I doubt 16 million jews were killed.
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>2/3ds of a population of 50 million gets genocided

>"h-haha! it didn happen you gud goiz lol...lookat dis utube video by an unwashed tinfoiler and deeze poorly made jpgs lol u sheeple"
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>it's not a movie about a river in Egypt
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>>70996260
Absolutely right anon. We need to be more efficient with the gas chambers and ovens next time.
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>>70996246
Bullshit. Historians agree the number was between 5-6 million.
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the shoah was real in my mind
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>>70996330
Was it real in your mind?
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>>70996338
Yes those jewish historians are totally right about the 6 trillion jews.
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There wasn't even 6 million jews in europe
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>>70996370
AHAHAHAHA
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>>70995982

How do you BTFO an official Red Cross report from 1946 that states at most 270,000 Jews died at the camps due to allied bombing cutting off supplies.

Still no credible evidence of gas chambers to this day.

Europe's Jewish population prior to WWII was around 6 million. How are there so many survivors if all the jews were killed?
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>>70996330
This has always offended me deeply.
My great grandmother was one of the 70 million jews that were brutally genocided during the holocaust.
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>>70995982
If it really happened then why do they have to try so hard to prove it? Fucking kikes need to give it a rest.
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>>70996409
but it was real in my mind goy
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I thought everyone knows that the holocaust happened, but the numbers are way too inflated. 6 million is way too high to be realistic.
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>>70996430
I think it's more about instilling an us against the goyim zionist attitude in American jews than convincing deniers it happened
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>>70996409
Yes yes facts are nice
HOWEVER
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>>70996338
Then how come you only ever hear 6 million? Oh yeah it's because that number is sacred in Jewish numerology and was foreordained to be the body count long before the war even started.
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>yfw your average american can come up with the number of jews in the lolercauz like a trained dog but have no clue have many americans died in ww2
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>>70995982
I think a bolder statement is World War 2 never happened. And because of that the holocaust never happened either.
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David Irwing was pretty good

It took decades Jews harassing him trough courts, media, even physical assaults to break him. Now he's a broken man, a testament that you can't win against the Jews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs7Y6kVyOvA
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>tfw Israeli Jew
>tfw haven't seen even one Holocaust movie
What am I missing?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZekZbKomFA&list=PLKURpFvJAszTncGUZpgbPCWHeACNDuDK4&index=189
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>David Irving - Talking Frankly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97L_SJrPl6g
>The story starts at 51:00 and ends at 57:00

>David Irving's eldest daughter, Josephine, was a lovely girl but she suffered from schizophrenia, and the Jews loved to make fun of David Irving for this because they thought that it was so ironic that a nazi sympathizer like David Irving ended up with a daughter that Hitler would've euthanized.
>In 1996, she tried to commit suicide by hurling herself from a building, luckily she survived, but she ended up with her back and all of her limbs completely crushed and had to have her limbs amputated.
>She lived with schizophrenia and no limbs and a broken back for 3 years, until the Jews threw her out of a 2 story building and successfully killed her this time.
>The funeral was set 2-3 weeks before the big holocaust denial trial that Deborah Lipstadt and her 40 lawyers and historians had brought against him with her libel suit.
>1 hour after the funeral a courier came up and delivered him a fancy and very expensive wreath with a letter attached to it.
>The letter read "Truly a merciful death" and it was signed by "Phillipp Bouhler and friends".
>If you know the history of the third reich you know that "Merciful death" (barmherzigen Tod) was the German euphemism for euthanasia, the killing of the disabled. Philipp Bouhler, who had apparently signed this card had been dead since 1945. He was Hitler's left-hand man. He was head of the euthanasia program
>This letter was sent to destabilize David Irving before the big trial that sent him to prison, not for holocaust denial but for "Portraying Adolf Hitler in a favorable light"
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>>70996570
lies
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>>70995982
Don't worry, Hollywood, I will never forget about the 6 million and I will continue paying to see the same exact story over and over and over again.
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>>70996594
>This letter was sent to destabilize David Irving before the big trial that sent him to prison, not for holocaust denial but for "Portraying Adolf Hitler in a favorable light"

That's his 1000 pages Hitler biography ,right?
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>>70996570
the movies are for the education of the goyim, not for you
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>>70996595
I'm a bigger fan of the electric floors
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if the holocaust is real, why did they feel the need to make up stuff and fake pictures?
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>>70996595
>a book written and published during Stalin's times isn't 100% accurate
Proof that the holocaust never happened.
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>>70996595
That's Soviet Propaganda
Forgot to say that I'm also Russian and know who Vasily Grossman is.
So far I haven't seen any reason not to believe in the Holocaust. But I'm open-minded.
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>>70996594

Fuck
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>>70996648
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>>70996679
>That's Soviet Propaganda

Well yes.
Grossman also gathered and presented evidence at the Nuremberg trials.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AavzatcCUEU

Do you guys really think someone would just tell lies?
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Can't we rather have more movies about the Nanking Massacre and Unit 931?
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>>70996535
what about if you gas them all?
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>>70996594
Now, that sounds like Holocaust fanfic.
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>>70996752
Of course! I'm thinking Adrien Brody could be the lead prisoner, maybe he could play piano or something.
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>>70996333
>trips and joke left unchecked
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>>70996679
this is a good starting point

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndGraf.html
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I don't get it. There is actual footage if people being bulldozed in to graves. How is the fact that the holocaust happened even up for debate?
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>bringing the deniers' arguments into the spotlight with a mainstream hollywood movie so that the masses can see the other pov

I thought Jews were smart.
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>>70996809
You can do at least basic research about it.

Yes there are images of piles of skinny starved corpses, but all of that imagery comes from the liberation of western camps liberated by Americans and Brits. All autopsies showed these people died of Typus, a deadly wartime disease. There isn't a single autopsy that showed that these people died by gassing.

The typhus situation occured becuase Germany was losing the war, they didn't have supplies and had overcrowded prisons, because they had to transfer the inmates from the eastern camps to the western camps.

So all "iconic" holocaust imagery that's in your schoolbooks isn't from the holocaust at all.
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>>70996809
>I don't get it. They showed me things in school and I was told that this is what happened, why would people think the government does that for us?
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>>70996809
because no holocaust is not the same as no dead people. Nobody denies there weren't dead people, nobody denies the Nazis didn't execute Jews.

We denied the claim that the Nazis systematically tried to exterminate 6 million Jews using in gas chambers.
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>>70996913
*were dead people
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>>70996594
what the fuck
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>>70996809
Not even /pol/tard but that's not a proof at all. Epidemics in a camp results in lots of dead bodies which are burried into a mass grave.
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>>70995982

Timothy Spall can only play working class people. Casting him as the patrician Irving is madness.
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>>70996809
>if people being bulldozed in to graves
Sure, people died. But how did those people die?
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>>70996809
I know exactly the footage you're talking about because it horrified me when they played it in school. I later researched it. That was an American Army bulldozer with an American soldier at the controls. It wasn't shot at a supposed "death camp," which only the Russians liberated. The Americans were burying dead typhus victims that the Germans left unburied. The footage had nothing to do with any attempt to mass murder Jews.
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>>70996729
I don't know. The number 6000000 is too ritualistic for Jews (600k adult Jews leaving Egypt), but obviously millions of Jews did die. Entire communities wiped out in Germany, France and Eastern Europe. There are almost no French Jews left in the world, except those who fled before the war, like Julia Louis-Dreyfus family. Almost no German Jews. There were 0.6 million before the war just in Germany.
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>hey hol up guys, we cant kill this one, she's fucking sick, better nurture her first
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>>70996991
Yes forgot to mention this point.

Only Russians liberated supposed death camps, but all the terrible footage comes from the Western camps, which was the result of Typhus disease.It was only like this because they didn't have supplies and the camps were overcrowded

There is really no such imagery from the supposed hell on earth death camps.
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>>70995982
Gosh, this really takes the cake doesn't it
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what about all the US soldiers testimonies of when they stumbled upon the gas chambers?
They're fake too?
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>>70997014
>they only gassed healthy jews
This is what redditors believe
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>I WILL NOT DEBATE YOU

lmao how the fuck are they making this out to be a good thing?

Why do leftists hate debate and discussion?

Just fucking kill these people already.
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>>70996161
this
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>>70997045
Read up on what Patton wrote about it. Don't have it because Im on mobile.
He died in an car "accident" right after the war though
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>>70997014

In legitimate scientific study, a weak subject would invalidate the test.
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>>70997045
They don't exist since American soldiers weren't even close to a supposed Gas Chamber.

They were all liberated by the Russians. You can go to Aushwitz to see "the gass chamber" it's an empty room with stone walls.
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>>70996260
So you're saying that the chinese contribute nothing to civilization?

I fucking hate racists like you, scum of the earth.
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>Movie is out
>4chan exposes holocaust lies again in meme images
>normies get redpilled
>Hollywood starts sweating and asking for shut down 4chan
President Trump allows it

now what, eh?
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>>70997045
Why would there be gas chambers in camps not designated as extermination facilities, which were only in Poland? We're the chambers for delousing clothing and bedding to avoid typhus outbreaks maybe?
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>>70997135
Why did they photoshop him out at the bottom?
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>>70996161
I think that modern whites are just too week to fathom such atrocities in the heart of Europe, so they have to use denial as a defense mechanism.
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>>70997129
generally contributing to civilization isnt the same as learning about your TOPICAL history stormfag...stop false flagging youre ridiculous at this point

>g-g-g-guys...stop discussing da holohaux it didn happen alright? w-why are we not focusing on the chinese instead? a-a-are you racists or something? PLZ

fucking retard
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>>70997162
just to get used to photoshop 1945. it was new back then.
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>>70996055

GOY if it didnt happen then why is it illegal to deny it?
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>>70996423

i know how can anyone deny the 90 million?
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So the whole of 4chan now knows the holocaust counterpoints by heart? Jesus...
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I can't wait to see some one bring up how the moon landing was faked as well.
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Fucking easy. Films today are so boring. Of course the antagonist is a holocaust denier. There's no ambiguity that he's the "bad" guy. There's NO reason to not be on the protagonist's side in this one. It's fucking easy bullshit that the studios can put out and people lap up because they like to pat themselves on the back.
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>>70997326
>>70997328
>15:05:34
>15:05:37

Getting anxious schlomos?
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>OH BOY A HOLOCAUST DENIAL THREAD
>LOOK AT THESE UNVERIFIED CLAIMS THEY TOTALLY DEBUNK ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THE HOLOCAUST

Denierfags are worse than 9/11truthers.
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>>70997326

So does the whole of the Middle East
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>>70996338
The fuck they do. I've seen sources citing figures everywhere between 2-13 million Jews. Which literally made me scratch my fucking head. That's like being a professor of geography and saying, "Well, I think the U.S. is somewhere in the Western hemisphere of the globe". Not going to share what I think of this period in history (WW2 in general), because there's no point, but historians definitelly do not agree on 5-6 million, you should research a topic and avoid being a spoon fed "I-know-history-because-I-had-history-class-in-high-school" monkey.
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>>70995982
Was zum fick I hate germans now
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>>70997348
>Of course the antagonist is a holocaust denier. There's no ambiguity that he's the "bad" guy
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>>70997045
Americans didn't liberate any death camps. Neither did the Brits or the French. Every death camp was liberated by the Soviets. America famously liberated Dachau, where a lot of those videos we're now familiar with, came from. There weren't any gas chambers at Dachau, despite the initial reports.
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>>70997337
This surely proves 6 million people were gassed in "hells on earth"
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Oy vey you better lawyer up!!

Theyre portraying lipstadt as the underdog who would have thought it.
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>>70996338
>Historians agree the number was between 5-6 million
What kind of nazifag historians are you reading? There's been easily 10 million jews who died and around 2-3 million thrown out of the country which most likely ended with them dying
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>>70997418
>death camps
>existing
Best goy
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>>70997382
This it's known that the holocaust is a hoax in the middle east.

But in "free" Europe they will lock you up for doubting
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>>70997221
Why do people always post these examples very clearly created in the digital era?

Post one history book they appear in.
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>>70997395


i kno, right?
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A while ago, I read the earlier 6 million references, saw the illustrated explanations of typhus effects and the changing story in the years immediately following the war. Interesting reading.
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>>70997446
I'm explaining to someone obviously not familiar with this.
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>>70995982
go back to /biz/ you dirty kike
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>>70996055
literally retarded, you don't need proof to prove that something happened
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>>70997478
>every death camp was liberated
Don't even say this facetiously.
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>it's a based on a true story episode
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I wonder what the ratio of poster here are acting delusional opposed to who actually are.
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>>70997475

Remember the 6 million In Russia
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> those comment sections
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>>70997451
those are not made in the digital era. they used double exposure. But here is your excample

>>70996648
>>70996720
pic related is from the Buchenwald museum.
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Thank god those germans were crafty as fuck and burned the jews, otherwise germany would be sitting on top of 1.200.000.000 bones right now...

Can you imagine? 1 TRILLION bones
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If the so called Holocaust is indisputable fact, why do they imprison people who challenge the official narrative? Makes no sense
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>>70996189

And they shouldn't. Remember that. We cannot let the atrocious memory of men killing over 50 million of their fellow men just because they were the Chosen People be forgotten.
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>someone says something historical didn't happen
>instead of just laughing in his face they take him seriously and give him more publicity than he ever could have wished for
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if the holocaust was real then why are there survivors?
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>>70997565
THIS!!!

Im starting to suspect holocaust deniers are behind this movie
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>>70997187
Really makes you think
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>>70997099
invalidate her from what test, the test to see if jews die from being gassed?
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>>70995982
Looks like this movie is gonna create way more holocaust deniers.
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>"Auschwitz is at the very center of Holocaust belief, it's at the very center of Holocaust denial

Which is why David Cole's work is so important.

>David Cole in Auschwitz full documentary 1992

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

>David Cole - The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxAvpvz_4wQ
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>>70996161
Not to mention all the orphans left behind which unquestionably died during a war-ridden period without a guardian.

I would say 14 millions at least...but right wing extremist historians and public will never let those numbers become public cause it fucks up their fucked up narrative...
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>>70996570
No point of preaching to the choir, is there?
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>>70996896
rampant mental illness amongst that race
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>>70997634

>14 millions at least

Errrrrrrr it's at least 140 million you shitlord
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>>70997565
Laughing in someone's face isn't a very good argument.
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Wait so HOL UP.

I don't really know much about the topic other than the usual shit, gas chambers, jews, horrible conditons blahblah.

But why is it so difficult to prove whether the Holocaust did or didn't happen?
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>>70997678
taking someone seriously isn't one either
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>>70997680
because the evidence doesn't hold up
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>>70997680
Austism.
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>>70995982

Heinrich Himmler makes a speech about the extermination of the Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

Excerpts from Goebbel's diary.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/goebbels-joseph/goebbels-1948-excerpts-01.html
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>>70997664
very funny

so funny I forgot to laugh
maybe tickle me a bit?
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>>70997680

Cause the jews are finished if it gets debunked
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never seen so much bait in one thread before.
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>>70997717
Testimony of Oskar Groening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVfFHJE0e1g
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>that comment section and dislike bar
This is beautiful.
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>>70997680
I'm not a denier but the reason it's disputed is because there's little to no scientific evidence. The basis of the current narrative relies on witness testimony, the Nuremberg trials and soviet information/propaganda.
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>>70997697
>haha maybe if I undermine your confidence enough I won't have to challenge any of your points

I really don't like 21st century debate. I blame the internet.
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>>70997785
it's how humans have always argued ya dingus
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>>70997538
>6.000.000 bodies
>200 bones each body
>actually is 1 trillion 200 billion bones

fuck I thought this was bait....how the fuck did they manage to burn one trillion bones to complete ash, while being in one of the worst wars humanity has ever seen?

does that technology even exist today?
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>>70997680
Because Israel will butt fuck you if you say anything against Jews. It doesn't even have to be about the Holocaust. You can call into question their political agenda: if you in any way shape or form have public face or credibility, they will bring a massive dradle down upon your head and try or succeed in ruining you.
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>>70997834
maybe I hit you on the head with a bone or any blunt object then

its how humans always have argued you moron, right?
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>>70996074
>7 million
it was actually 80 million, check your facts
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>>70997680
>But why is it so difficult to prove whether the Holocaust did or didn't happen?
Because the proofs are
1. Jews saying "Yeah, yeah, they totally killed millions in front of my eyes, honest"
and
2. The communists saying "The fascists are monsters, you guys, worse than us, honest, they burned people and stuff"
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>>70997680
it's hard to prove that it didn't happen because the great Nose Machine has every school in the western world hammering "muh 6 million guilt" and "muh jews dindu nuffin" into goy teenage students, so when they've grown up they've all taken it for granted
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>>70997845
>how the fuck did they manage to burn one trillion bones to complete ash, while being in one of the worst wars humanity has ever seen?
And also hide the asshes.
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>>70997845
6,000,000 Jews didn't die in gas chambers. Around 3 million to 4 million Jews were gassed. The rest died with typhus/starvation or in ghettos and mass shootings. No one has ever claimed that 6 million Jews died just from gassing.
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>>70995982
Daniel Irving isn't a denier.
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>>70997546
We will always remember the 6 billion Jews who died for their faith.
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>>70997845
no, but it can be made, all you need is a conveyor going into an incinerator then when it pops out on the other side have a giant metal thing press down to pulverize the bones
even an ape could construct it
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>>70997871
n-no...
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>>70997761
>The basis of the current narrative relies on witness testimony

So people believe there's some kind of Jewish conspiracy where a bunch of old people systematically lie about something happening over 50 years ago?

Like what's actually in dispute here, whether the torture / gassing all together happened, or the numbers that died is accurate?
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this movie is right on time. ive literally been waiting for it to come out
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>>70996337
har har har.

im not saying that these kinds of statements aren't funny but it didn't even cause me to blow air out of my nose so that can't be a good sign.
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>>70997922
so its 600 million bones then....
600.000.000

does this technology even exist today, to burn all those bones to ash so literally only 500 of them to ever been discovered?
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>>70997848
You forgot one clause,
>if you're American
There's a reason this happened in England because in America he would've been 'silenced' after he published his first book. That's why the comment about innocent till proven guilty, 'not in England' is used
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>>70997950
A bit of everything. They believe
>the gas chamber never existed/were just showers
>the mass deaths were caused by typhus
>the deaths were exaggerated

I think their reasoning is that the Jews used the sympathy to promote zionism and the formation of Israel.
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>BASED ON A TRUE STORY


Here we go again.... Again.
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>>70998038
>I think their reasoning is that the Jews used the sympathy to promote zionism and the formation of Israel.
thats not debatable though...the only reason european nations and america had to support them was the holocaust

and the fact that if you mention how fucking over-represented are jews in governments/banks today takes you straight back to hitler and a person who wants to holocaust them? remember that? the holocaust?

but on another note, how come this extreme right wing company be over-represented by white males? where the fuck is the diversity you literal nazi?
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>>70996594
jews have no shame
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>>70997680

Because almost all the visual or physical records of it you've seen either aren't of the death camps, or were constructed after the fact.

When the physical evidence for an event is cooked up, as with the relics of saints in the medieval Catholic church, it makes people wonder.
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>it's another holocaust denier thread

Read these and weep, stormfags

https://desustorage.org/his/thread/509405/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1QJ_yXzg8

http://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/jewish/features/.premium-1.540880?v=287CF32191027E8B9EBBCF25BAAED899

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

And remember, if you disagree with any of these sources, you're retarded.

But be free to ((((()))))) me and call me jidf and schlomo all you want, your butthurt doesn't stop the cold hard truth utterly BTFO of you.
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>>70996333

>Dem trips

>Dat punnery
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>>70998124
>r-r-read my facts!!

>i-if holywood isnt reminded annually that it happened my narrative falls apart!

>thats how well-sourced my holocaust is

god I wish I could be paid to post disinfo links on a lithuanian wood-carving shoe board...
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>>70998098
I'm half sold. Okay, so how did all the Jews coordinate their stories? Did they all get a memo to talk about the brutal treatment and gas chambers? When was it decided?

Furthermore why did the Nazis admit to it? Were they being strong-armed? Why was the USA so complicit with furthering the hoax? Nobody involved with it ever talked?
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>>70996594
he bought the trial, not the other way around
he did not go to prison in the UK, it was in austria and was for actual holocaust denial

jesus christ pol idiots you're not even trying
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>>70998007

Yes, crematoria return the bereaved a casket of ash, not a bunch of charred bones. There's no physical impediment to it having been done technologically, the question is whether you think there were enough individual camps to achieve that turnover in the course of four years.
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>>70998124
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>>70997845

4 million died in the camps, by various forms of death, some of it conducted by nazis, others by disease and starvation due to the horrible conditions within the camps.

The other 2 million were killed in raids, hunted down, or died on the run.

See >>70998124

The exact number isn't 6 million, but because they couldn't find all of the bodies (due to them being burnt to ash/ buried away) it's estimated that they did.
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>>70996535
>>70996594
Actual jew here. My heart goes out to this man, this champion of truth, that went out against the kike mafia, against all odds, paid the worst price and still kept on going. Most of us will never have this level of conviction or courage. I truly despise some of these jews out there. Fuc kthat made me sad
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/pol/ and muslims are so alike
both hate jews
both hate femininism
both treat lgbt people as degenerate
why don't /pol/tard just out themselves as muslim and join isis instead of shitposting?
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>>70996055
It's true. This is why flat earthers have already won. The moment we stepped in to combat their retarded denial the war was already over.
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>>70998182
>nazis admit to it
youre talking about the captured nazis by russians? im sure that had nothing to do with it, they just calmly and civilized explained to them they needed to tell the truth

>so how did all the Jews coordinate their stories
youre talking about a race/religion who's only stable factor throughout their whole history has been them being thrown out of at least 100 countries they've been in (((for some reason)))

do you think they need to be organized to see their best chance at never being criticized or thrown out of a country ever again?
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>>70998220

>implying they already aren't

Hitler idolised Islam, surprisingly.
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>>70998182
Anon, please don't ask for logical explanations from /pol/. I mean it's the place that claims white people are the master race, yet they claim we are all controlled by the jews.
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>>70998172
Was that your attempt at a rebuttal?
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You know, I'm not in the slightest a holocaust denier. I think you've got to be a bit paranoid and retarded to think that the Nazis never shipped Jews off to concentration camps and to think that a lot of Jews didn't die in said camps.
If I'm not mistaken, the 6 million estimate comes from the lower estimates based on census reports about the amount of Jews present before and after the war, with the higher estimates at 10-11 million. So it seems quite likely the number isn't accurate at all. But I don't know how reliably they've taken account of all the Jews who fled that part of Europe for England and America right before and during in the war.

But none of that really bothers me that much. 3 million, 6 million, 10 million, it doesn't really matter how many people died. It was atrocious, sure. But it was also 70 years ago. No other genocide is milked for this long. Even 9/11, which happened only 15 years ago, is basically ignored at this point.
A really great film came out last year called 1915
It was about the Armenian Genocide; the one that is still contested, the one that Turkey refuses to acknowledge. It's also the genocide that Obama promised to refer to as a genocide when he ran for his initial election. But when the 100th anniversary came, he pussied out and called it a tragedy I think.
The film was great but received almost no coverage, no advertising and no recognition. Consider this, the Holocaust gets a film every 2 years minimum (but closer to 2 per year) all of which we hear non-stop about (I think the last one I watched was the women in gold, pretty good but not great) whereas the only English-language film about the Armenian Genocide in the last 5 years (that Im aware of) is completely ignored

That's what upsets me
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>>70998220

Because then you'd be defending /pol/ instead of crying how bad they are.
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>>70998124
you know what, i'm not going to read all this. how about you give me only the best one. Your very best source to proof that millions where killed in gas chambers and that 6 millions died in total
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>>70998196
>Yes, crematoria return the bereaved a casket of ash, not a bunch of charred bones. There's no physical impediment to it having been done technologically
we literally cant do that shit TODAY in 2016
but a bunch of krauts managed it during one of the worst wars ever, in 1945
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>>70996055
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
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>>70998242

Gonna stop you right there stormfag.

Read>>70998124 and weep.
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>>70998242
>youre talking about the captured nazis by russians? im sure that had nothing to do with it, they just calmly and civilized explained to them they needed to tell the truth

Didn't the Russians also dislike Jews though? Why would they want the Nazis to "lie"?
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>>70996594
that's what nazi fucks get. jews have forgiven enough

ENEMIES OF THE CHOSEN PEOPLE REPENT
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>>70998271
>cites wikipedia article claiming that anyone who denies the holocaust is a crazy nazi
>expects rebutal
yep, that was it, also the fact that people are slowly but steadily waking up to your shit...otherwise you wouldnt feel the need to have a big holywood movie every year to remind us of your (((shoah)))
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>>70997680
Because it a fucking brand. The holocaust is basically a genre now, an industry in itself. The gift that keeps on giving. Can't let it all those guilt shekels go away..oh no, my sweet goy
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>>70998275

>I'm not going to read all of this.

>hurr durr present me one source that shows me evidence, I'm too lazy.

You seriously can't be this retarded.
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>>70998298
>Didn't the Russians also dislike Jews though
the communist russians? the communist russians who's communism was implemented by all jews? yeah, no
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>>70998124
>it's literally illegal to deny the Holocaust

Holy shit lmao.
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>Acclaimed

LOL

Nice "truth" you got there where people LITERALLY get jailed for questioning it in europe.

Imagine if the catholic church wrote a play back in the middle ages defending the flat earth bullshit theory from "heretics". This "holocaust denier" movie is the modern-day equivalent to that.
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>>70997845
>>70997538
>Tfw right now there are people claiming people die every minute but where is the proof? I see no bones littering our streets.
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>>70998327

>believing in a conspiracy
>gets BTFO by other facts and articles that aren't Wikipedia, which also cites other sources.
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>>70998372
just wondering, why should i believe your shitty image you probably got off of another forum, made by an actual neo nazi
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>>70996074
Check out worldwide jewish population statistics pre and post ww2.

the go UP.
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>You dared to question our "truth", goyim? Well too bad, off to jail you go...
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>>70998124
>watching the first video
>a holocaust denial organization offered 50k to whoever could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz
>A Jew just tells them what happened from memory
>this is apparently proof
>the holocaust deniers refuse to pay because no evidence was given except their word
>they get sued and have to pay anyway
>"You can't dispute it! It's just a fact! We don't need actual proof!"

Brilliant. That video sure showed me.
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>>70998387
thats cause we burry them and no one has any incentive to search for them about where they fuck they are...cause they know, they put em there

you on the other hand claim 6000000 have died but there's literally no evidence for it
>t-t-they were burned to ash!
literally cant happen, see the posts you quoted..so where are they schlomo?
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>>70998348
>my only evidence are ((eyewitnesses)), soviet propaganda and the Nuremberg trial.
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>>70998405
>>70998405'
>A BLOO BLOO LE EPIK ADHOM COMEBACK
Kys reddit
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>>70998404
>supports one of the ""most documented events in human history"""
>all he has is texts stating "it happened u guize" and wikipedia articles stating "if u don believe u a nazi"
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>>70998327
>crazy nazi
I don't remember those words being used.

>otherwise you wouldnt feel the need to have a big holywood movie every year
That is some irrefutable proof anon. Thank you for waking me to the truth. I will no longer be fooled by all the lies propagated by Hollywood.
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>>70998405

You shouldn't. Because racists are retarded.

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/were-only-human/is-racism-just-a-form-of-stupidity.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2XGMgHhSZbs

https://www.quora.com/Are-racist-people-less-intelligent-Why-or-why-not
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>>70998470
glad to be of help
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>>70998409
you fucking retard there were 15.3 million jews in the world in 1930 and in 1951 there were 11.5 million. why would you post if you have no idea what you're talking about

i'm sure you'll discredit these sources because you're a conspiracy theorist though
http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1952_6_WJP.pdf
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005161
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In reality the so called "Nazi death camps" were nothing more than internment labour camps for ALL sorts of internees (not just Jews), SOME of which ran out of food and suffered from outbreaks of typhus towards the end of the war due to heavy Allied bombing raids on German infrastructure. - There were no "gas chambers" and no "mass murderers" of Jews of any kind in these camps.

In The Ukraine alone approximately 11 million Ukrainians were systematically murdered and/or deliberately starved to death under the Judeo-Bolshevik government in Moscow, which practically reduced the whole of The Ukraine to a gigantic death camp for the millions of souls who perished there. Others were transported to Magadan in Eastern Siberia where horrific medical experiments were carried out on Ukrainian children as young as 3 without anaesthesia, while others still were deported to various parts of the Soviet Union to be used as slave labour.

In some areas of German Liberated Ukraine where there was a security crisis with Jewish and Communist partisans carrying out terrorist actions in unsecured pockets, the German liberation forces were forced into deputizing local anti-Communist paramilitaries and armed police, to counter the Red terrorist insurgency. This inevitably led to wholesale reprisals against Jewish communities on the part of the armed native population which the Germans ultimately had very little control over.

There is no substantial evidence whatsoever that any large volume of Jewish non-combatants were deliberately killed at the hands of Germans alone on the Eastern Front, or indeed anywhere else during World War II.
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So why did the Germans round up all the Jews then? Just for fun?
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>>70998449
good argument
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>>70998124
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1QJ_yXzg8


holy shit this is terrible

they equate not believing that some things commonly said about the holocaust is the same as full denial
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>>70998520
Yes. The KZs were actually holiday camps.
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>>70998467

>won't read the facts and evidence presented to him

>still denies evidence like a SJW.

I swear you /pol/fags are the equivalent of the SJWs you mock.
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>>70998520
to kick them the fuck out of their country, and in the early stages, with all their fucking belongings and wealth being transferred there...which is much more than any of the hundreds of countries who kicked them the fuck out have done for them through their history
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>being taught Holocaust in H.S.
>Teacher was a Jew
>White supremist edgelord in class
>I'm still pretty ignorant to the world, I mainly stare at girls asses in class and not pay attention
>One day edgelord is gone
>Jew teacher visibly upset
>Edgelord drew a swaztika on the back wall
>Suspended from school
>Had to watch Anne Frank with a Jewish teacher crying in the back of class

Fuck that edgelord was ahead of his time. Actually had a conversation about the Holocaust's legitimacy with the edgelord prior to the incident. Of course 4chan was invented yet so I didn't think anything of it.
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>>70997717
>extermination

He talking about "ausrottung" in the sense of "uprooting" - getting rid of them from German society. Not physical extermination. He even mentions punishing Germans who has taken the confiscated riches from Jews for personal wealth to be punished in the same speech.
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Whether it happened or not, I don't care.
It's only purpose is to give the Jews a moral leverage over every other group of people.
A lot more people would accept it if they wouldn't constantly shove it in our faces.
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>>70998510

Read, >>70998124 and cry you faggot.
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>>70998546
I did read them. Its just text. Like the numerous texts claiming the nazis had made roller coaster to exterminate jews...are them true too? Where is your actual proof of the most documented event in human history other than "someone said so until proven otherwise"?

nice false equivalency too btw..truly the sign of a desperate chaim
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>>70998510
You had me until "judeo-bolshevik", which may be one of the most idiotic terms nazi propaganda ever shat out to justify the war against Stalin.
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If you believe in "gas chambers" and "systematic extermination of Jews and other undesirables" at Nazi work camps after the invention of the internet you might actually be retarded.
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>>70998584
Kill yourself you faggot kike.
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>>70998287

> jewkipedia
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>>70998584
>wikipedia
>random articles
>4chan threads
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>>70996648
AAAHHHH.... the french.. chhhampagne...
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>>70998576
>It's only purpose is to give the Jews a moral leverage over every other group of people.
i'd love to see some examples of this
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>>70997922
>Around 3 million to 4 million Jews were gassed.
Then where are the bodies that have never been recovered?
>they burned all the bodies
Okay. Lets go ahead and ignore the fact that even by today's standards it would be impossible to burn to ash that many bods in that period of time, but lets say 4 million jews were burned to ash; then what happened to all that ash? That would have been several tons of ash and it wouldn't just scatter to the wind.
>they buried the ash
Okay. Doesn't make any sense why they'd bury ash, but whatever. Why has that ash never been recovered then? They have the technology to locate it?
>because you're a racist
And now you know why people question if the holocaust actually happened.
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>>70998595

>didn't read the sources cited in the arguments

Yup, you're retarded.
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>>70996594
btfo
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There have always been outlandish jewish claims of mass extermination. They are a central theme in Talmudic and Kabbalistic Judasim. For example, Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.
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>>70995982


btw David Irving isn't a holocaust denier: he just denies so many died in the chambers if I am correct or does he also completely deny the chambers?
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>>70998584
I'm not even a holocaust denier but that post is almost entirely hearsay. Here's one of the points for example:
>The Institute for Historical Review publicly offered a reward of $50,000 for verifiable "proof that gas chambers for the purpose of killing human beings existed at or in Auschwitz." Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz, submitted his own testimony as proof but it was ignored. He then sued IHR in the United States and the case was subsequently settled for $50,000, plus $40,000 in damages for personal suffering. The court declared the statement that "Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944" was a fact.

People just claim it happened and are believed without offering evidence.
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>>70998639
Where the fuck have you been living for the past 60 years?
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>>70995982
>the dislikes
BWAHAHAHA

>yfw people actually don't believe in the holocaust
THE ABSOLUTE MAD PEOPLE
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>>70998613

Cry more stormfag
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>>70998642
I DID read them you illiterate kike.
>take this guy's word for fact y-you stupid goyim UGH

>most documented event ever
>no documents
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>>70998584
>>70998289
>copy and paste shitty sources and Israeli newspapers from the files
>preemptively call the goyim stupid and say that I'm totally not jidf
>can't argue any facts or evidence just redirect them to my original post
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SIX GORILLION! GO SEE THIS MASTERPIECE AND PAY PREMIUM PRICE, GOYIM!
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