Thoughts? One of the best examples of eery horror I've seen in a while.
No one wants to talk about this? Has this board really gotten that bad?
I really enjoyed it.
>>70945990
What do you make of the end?
I enjoyed the hypocritical nature of most the cast throughout the film.
>>70946149
Fantastic ending. Would you agree the bonfire at the end was fueled by the twins allowing the witches to fly?
I don`t like it, atmosphere was more annoying then scary or unsettling.
To add something to discussion, kids acted really well, father`s voice was cool, and boobie-glances didn`t played out in any way
>Caaaa leb tee hee
>>70946350
I can respect that, I found the atmosphere did it's job. Obviously nothing can scare us anymore, so I thought that the movie did a good job with most elements. It wasn't try hard with jump scares or typical Conjuring bs. And I agree, the nuances made the movie for me, loved the fathers voice and the family's accent
>>70945948
That's because it's plebiean at best. Pseudo-intellectual redditors love it.
>>70945812
The historical setting and the gibberish made it so boring I really wanted them to all get slaughtered.
>>70946323
YES. Glad I didn't have to dig deep in this thread to get this. I thought the same thing. I'm curious if she turned to Lucifer towards the very end, or if it was more premeditated. Also, was the ram Lucifer the whole time? I really loved the final barn scene where he talks to her, pulled it off perfectly.
>>70946149
there was no vvitch, it was all Thomasin
>>70946473
(You)
>>70946350
I think the glances played were to show the repressed sexuality of the family, her parents were both threatened by her becoming a young woman.
>>70946546
explain
>>70946637
watch the movie
>>70946666
Jesus, would it kill you to back up what you're saying? Fuck this board is filled with autists
>>70946666
She clearly didn't want to leave the plantation at the start you fucking retard.
>>70945812
Made my top ten list after a first viewing
I went out of my way to not spoil a single thing after hearing about it and I'm extremely glad I did
Hands down will be one the best of the decade
>rare phillip coming in
>>70946785
Maybe she didn't want to be separated from her family?
What's with the insults, anyway? How old are you?
>>70946722
I've explained it in a 100 previous threads about this movie. Goddammit maybe I am an autist
>>70946525
I've only watched it once but I don't think it was premeditated as far as I could tel in the endl she took the best option left to her.
>>70945948
It's always been bad.
I kind of vvish they had better music. It reminds me of Insidious with how jarring the music can be, for a movie that is (for the most part) pretty subtle.
VVhich Insidious vvas not.
I also vvish we got to see some nip.
>>70946828
So she's a good girl witch who didn't want to leave the plantation or her family? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from
>>70946546
I thought about this as well. Maybe she was possessed by Satan the whole time. Maybe the devil works in a certain manner to plant that seed of doubt in the family's (and viewer's) mind. Maybe go fuck yourself.
So how did the baby vanish exactly
>>70946919
you just got to see the wrong one
>>70946973
wolf took it you retard
>>70946961
I think the devil wanted her and worked to turn the family against her once they left the plantation.
>>70946895
>eternal damnation
>best option
>>70946873
Then start off with an explanation instead of saying "this", without explanation. Sorry I wasn't in the other threads where you did explain it, I have no idea how that is my fault.
>>70946961
The family was likely driven mad by the ergot in the corn hence all the shenanigans
>>70947051
Choosing not to fly over flying. Wow
>>70947082
But how did the brother throw up the apple? He threw up the whole apple, minus a bite. What other possibility than witchery it that?
>>70947009
What fucking wolf
>>70947139
family imagined that, kid starved to death. whole family was starving hence why "the devil" tempted Thomasin to "live deliciously" and "taste the butter"
It's all about food
>>70947009
Are you implying there was no witch? The one we see multiple times? Is this psychological horror you're implying? You're not a Christian, are you? Fucking heathen
>>70947051
>Making way back to town alone, horseless, and without the gun
>Having to explain to others what happened without letting them know you were touched by witchery or you're crazy
>Having nobody you know would take you in for sure
Butter dresses > Puritan bonnets
>>70947051
when your options are starving to death in that hovel or trying to get back to the plantation and most likely being accused of witchcraft, living deliciously doesn't seem that bad.
>>70947228
Ohh, shit. I didn't even think of it like that.
Did Thomasin wander off and starve in the woods?
>>70947280
likely, she "floats" away in that final moment of ecstasy/agony before she succumbs to starvation alone in the woods
>Suspect multiple members of your household of being witches
>Lock them all together where they can conspire against you
Brilliant.
>>70947228
If they were starving though, why did they have all that corn? And they had animals to eat. I'd really like to believe your theory, but that kinda is in the way
>>70947389
yep, the dad was a moron
>>70946525
I thought Black Phillip might just be a conduit but he changes form at the end so probably was the devil the whole time.
Movie was complete garbage. I still think all the praise for it on /tv/ is an elaborate troll to trick more people into watching a shite movie.
>>70947402
the corn was bad,remember the scene with the father and son in the cornfield shortly after the baby disappeared? also the animals are more valuable alive until last option, but a few of them were sick. thomasin finds a dead baby chicken and that goat was squirting blood instead of milk
>>70947280
>>70947352
She probably gets to live in a cosy witch house. Better than that farm.
>>70946323
Never even occurred to me, makes perfect sense!
Thomasin's face as she entered the coven was so disturbing, as was Caleb's death scene.
>>70947474
It's not pure cinema, but its pretty great as far as a horror movie goes. "Complete garbage"? C'mon...im okay with you disliking it for whatever reasons but that's an over-exaggeration.
>>70947419
>Problem arises
>Time to chop wood
The dad had nice abs. Tomasin may be living deliciously, but she'll never have a holy six pack.
>>70947507
Yeah, I forgot about the corn convo. I thought the animals being bad was chalked up to the witch, but as we were talking about, thats just symbolism. You win, nice catch
>>70947535
Was Caleb saved from damnation in the end or was that the witch/black phillip messing with them?
>>70947474
This movie has shill threads every few hours.
>>70947652
I think it was a final fuck you from the Witch/Lucifer. Especially with the whole eroticism aspect of it. I don't think they would have left it at just coughing up an apple.
>>70947474
not enough explosions for you?
>>70947656
Yes "shill", God forbid anyone discuss anything. I know you're just being a troll but here's your (You). Go back to your GoT general
Besides what would be considered her sinful desire for the luxuries of the civilised world she wa s a good girl in the end she took the burden of her families sins.
>>70947827
good effort.
>>70945948
It's a great movie but it's kind of been talked about a nauseam (for me at least).
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1t9cxzrjAE8uTTYCpko_BugNhGeGv9OWlDLZJN3TF2IA/viewform#responses
>>70947943
You're a dumb cunt. I was waiting for a thread to talk about it.
>>70947978
Like I told someone else, it's not my fault I want to talk about it with people after just seeing it for the first time. Where do I fucking go? Reddit? Do you actually want people to do that?
>>70948100
Not tryin to diss you, just explaining the seemingly low interest in discussion.
>>70947943
Like anything on this site takes effort. If anyone is trying, it's you. Quit trying to conform to this shit hole and just talk about film.
>>70948130
I know you weren't dissing man, thanks for the link
The "they went crazy because they were starving" theory doesn't account for the baby's disappearance
>>70948202
What if a wolf really snatched it up? Like Caleb said, his father showed him wolf tracks
>>70948289
Yeah I guess that's possible...the family vs. nature /the forest seemed to be a theme in the movie. Like when the father tells caleb "this forest will not consume us".
They removed themselves from the settlement and a human community and were exposed to the predatory aspects of nature.
>>70948289
there wasn't a peep from the baby and there was a pretty big space between them and the forest, she would have seen it running away.
>>70948386
I'm just trying to figure out if this movie was psychological at all. Especially the scene where we see the witch mash up the baby. Why show that if none of the cast had delusions of it? It's either 90% psychological or 100% fantasy
>>70948445
We'll what do you think happened to the bay then?
>>70948497
The witch took it though supernatural means.
You guys focusing on whether or not Black Philip was really Satan or not, or if the witches had any actual power, or if the witches were real at all, are completely missing the point of the film.
The film isn't about the existence of supernatural beings, it's about Puritan/Christian values being completely useless in a survival situation. No amount of praying or Bible verse is capable of saving their lost baby, stopping their son from being a sexual deviant, stopping the father from stealing the silver cup from his own wife. Nor was religion able to console the mother's grief, or make her any good at raising her two hell spawn, or stop her from lashing out at her daughter over a crime she didn't commit.
The family falls apart, but their faith doesn't, and it leads to their demise. Her joining the covenant at the end is a symbolic gesture to signify how completely Christianity failed her family.
and was anyone else distracted by how pretty the main character was? God damn.
>>70945812
Movie wasn't scary and there is no reason why they couldn't exterminate all the witches considering the fact they lacked offensive magic
>>70948568
I caught most of that, I just wanted to talk about things I didn't understand, which is why all those other points came up. And YES, she was so attractive that I felt wrong at times
>>70948568
That is a stunt double you fucking pseudo-intellectual idiot. Also the families problem was the father's pride. His self-righteousness and holier than thou attitude is what caused his families demise. Christianity didn't fail their family the father who is the head of the household did.
>>70948690
>>70948749
and the father did everything he did in the movie because of his religion. not that he really had a choice, because what the fuck are you supposed to do when your kid starts saying the goat is talking to them
>>70948749
>That is a stunt double
No shit, Sherlock, what gave it away, the fact that she magically gained 50 lbs?
>>70948568
>son from being a sexual deviant
He was only entering adolescence and Thomasin was the only girl around. He's just dealing with new feelings. How is that a "sexual deviant"? Is his sister, yeah, but the bible has a load of incest.
>>70948739
>And YES, she was so attractive that I felt wrong at times
You shouldn't
Shes 20 and has a fantastic ass
>>70946546
This is wrong. She was the purest one of all of them. She only turned to Lucifer as a final resort because the alternatives were dying alone on the farm or going back to the community and being burned as a witch.
>>70948690
they could fly and had the strength to rip animals apart and change their appearance just for starters.
>>70945812
It was good to watch, but I didn't think it was scary in any way, nor creepy.
>>70948947
I thought the same thing. They lived in an extremely sexually repressed culture and she was the only girl around. i don't think he would have fucked her but he couldn't help noticing
>>70948947
lust is a cardinal sin, and thinking about a sin is as bad as following through on it, according to Christians.
Thomasin even mentions this early in the movie, that she's broken every sin "in thought."
>>70948458
I think it was fantasy, although there are a lot of psychological aspects to it (the scapegoating of different family members, caleb's fear that his attraction towards his sister is sinful and that he's evil, etc...)
What was the deal with the rabbit?
>>70948978
Thats not her ass you fucking idiot
>>70948872
No he did everything wrong because he was prideful and self righteous and the other puritans wouldnt stand for his nonsense. Stop being a fedora since you are obviously not euphoric.
>>70948947
He succumbed to his lust, the witch used his weakness to enchant him.
>>70950707
That would of worked on practically any teenage boy and most adult men. Not myself of course because I pride myself on my ability to control my desires and emotions.
>>70950837
That was my point. I don't think she magically enchanted him.
>>70945812
its boring as fuck OP
>>70950906
It caught my attention right away.
>>70945812
MEME
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Why was the father on trial at the start?
Does it worth watching?
>>70952392
Do it. Now.
>>70952305
He was an OG edgelord.
>>70952431
Were any specifics given? I only remember him saying he wouldn't be judged by false christians.
>thee shall nev'r
>>70952305
Improper use of his single-barrel pump-action yogurt rifle. I shit you not.
![[goat breathing].webm](https://i.imgur.com/7cOu4cA.jpg "[goat breathing].webm")
>>70952618
i love her
Why wasn't Caleb baptised?
>feminists think this movie has a happy ending
Says a lot about them.
>>70947139
>what is the forbidden fruit
>>70947256
>>70947233
Still better than burning in Hell forever.
>>70945812
christians are hypocrites, the end.
>>70952913
If nuns are brides or christ how do you know black phillip doesn't treat his girls well?
>>70947715
Eroticism in prayer was common back then. His speech is quoted verbatim from a Puritan diary and the Song of Songs.
>>70952956
Satan suffers in hell too numbnuts.
>>70949538
>Thats not her ass you fucking idiot
Nothing you say will make me believe you
>>70952676
>movie is so eerie people are unconfortable all through it
>they need to release the tension by laughing when the goat is breathing in this scene and when the witch turns around and laughs
Jesus fucking christ I wish I had a personal movie theater
>>70945948
Shills have made threads about it every day for weeks. Fuck off
>>70952991
He wasn't in hell he was frolicking around a forest with some women.
>>70953015
fucking plebs
>>70952529
He considered himself more righteous than the rest of the community. He was probably voicing heretical interpretations of Scripture and refusing to be corrected.
got about 30 mins left, i'll post my thoughts after im done :^)
>>70945812
Underwhelming ending she offers no resistance to satan, showed no sign of inner conflict, and joins the coven on a whim.
No critical thinking on her part. After all she saw she goes to the devil. She knows without a doubt that the bible is real and she chooses to burn in hell for eternity rather than be burned at the steak by the townsfolk for a few minutes.
>>70952698
Puritans didn't practice infant baptism.
>suddenly religious discussion
Religions aren't real, it's just a folktale, not a true story you niggers
>>70945812
Is this the new babadook?
In other words, 6 - 7/10 movie overrated by plebs.
>>70953038
>shills
some people like movies, anon
>>70953056
Hell is prepared for the damned on Judgement Day. Satan is loose in the world until then. He isn't the king of Hell. He'll be its prisoner.
>>70953114
All her family is dead, she's exhausted and little nuts, she has no food or any other way to survive, she's a woman. What did you think?
>>70953114
Most people will follow the same path. Some of the Pharisees denied Christ even after personally witnessing Him performing miracles.
I had dirty thoughts the entire movie like the kid
>>70947280
>>70947352
>>70947082
>>70947228
This makes more sense than the devil or witches. But it doesn't explain the baby.
>>70953124
When did they do it?
>>70953125
>It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it.
-Aristotle
Christianity at least within the context of the movie is clearly correct.
>>70953124
CALEB, not Samuel
>>70953090
Thanks anon. I appreciate it.
>>70949002
But they had guns.
Guns > Magic
So Black Phillip wasa pirate?!?
>>70953252
Depends. I don't know their specific doctrines. If that sect was descended from Anabaptists I think they waited until early teens. I think the older son was already baptized but the baby wasn't, which is what the mom was crying about.
>>70953249
and many other things, it's a folktale, theres a witch. it was Satan's plan all along to get to Thomasin, Thomasin was weak, she had the potential to be a witch and it's proven at the start of the film and when she went on a very out of place rant about being a Witch to the twins. black phillip exploited this and started to tear the family apart from the inside until thomasin had nothing left to do but join him, in which she did very easily. there was little to no focus on food at all, you don't even see them look hungry.
>>70953341
Makes sense given the time period. Pirates where the most evil fucks back then.
>>70953280
Infant baptism can refer to basically any baptism in childhood or even early adolescence, not just babies in the modern sense of infants. Infant was originally just a synonym for child I think. A lot of Protestants believe that a person has to fully understand the doctrine of salvation before Baptism, which can take years of indoctrination for a kid.
>>70945812
>>70953341
>pirate
What makes you think that?
>>70953365
They talk tons about how they have no food. The father pawns the silver cup to buy a few meals, and they resort to hunting but never bag anything. I don't think the psychological horror angle works with this movie, though. It's clearly supernatural.
>>70950837
>[faint sound of tipping is heard from the woods]
>>70953454
He looked like a pirate
>>70953638
He looked like a pilgrim too
Yes yes well done thomasin well done
HOWEVER
>>70950707
Wait, Kat Dennings is that thou?
>>70953638
That's just a common suit that time. Pirates probably never even wore anything like that
>>70948568
>religious behavior is useless in a survival situation
Call, 911 you're clinically retarded.
>>70953785
>Call, 911 you're clinically retarded.
That sentence is clinically retarded.
>>70953358
I didn't think the older son was either. wasn't he crying about it to the father when they went hunting?
>>70953509
>They talk tons about how they have no food. The father pawns the silver cup to buy a few meals, and they resort to hunting but never bag anything.
He's trying to amass enough food for the winter, there's nothing in the movie to indicate that they're currently starving
>>70953726
>>70953910
>attributing cognitive functions to lifeless expressions
>>70945812
best horror film since the shining
>film a hamfisted cautionary church tale from the 17th century
>make it a bit edgier
>hipster nu-males who never went to church think it's 3deep5u
How does it feel to see yourself as sophisticated yet actually being so clueless and ignorant?
>>70955054
I just enjoyed the movie. i didn't think it made me special.
>tfw I just watched it
Wasn't really terrifying for me personally. But the imagery was very eerie, and the dialogue and cinematography was top. Would recommend
>>70948568
The film is basically about the family getting punished for their sins.
Father: pride
Son: lust
Twins: sloth
Baby: not yet baptised
Not shure about the mother besides the fact that she was a huge bitch to Thomasin
I really enjoyed it, I honestly wish it had slightly less "jump-scare" moments even though they were intense, always feels like a cheap trick.
Also the movie really reminded me of this one, really similar vibe.
>>70953957
I remember that they were talking about original sin and total depravity, and how salvation is only from God's grace. I don't recall baptism being mentioned but it's been a while.
>>70956361
Mother is wrath or despair probably
>>70956745
Caleb says his sins have not been pardoned
>>70956361
she claims to have wanted to become a nun before she went and took a husband
>>70955054
What the hell does going or not going to church have to do with understanding this film?
>>70948202
they cannibalized the baby
>>70952629
He jerked off?
>>70957240
They still had enough food for now but what they had wasn't going to last the winter.
>>70947051
She doesn't know if the Christian God exists or if hell exists
>>70947652
Yeah he's safe, he coughed the Apple of sin and embraced Christ
>>70958491
Good for him. that kid was alright.
>>70958491
what sin did the twins commit? everyone that was killed by satan or witches committed a sin
>>70950906
this tbqh famalias
>>70956361
All of the families "sins" ultimately was the father's responsibility. If he was less prideful and knew the Bible better he could of saved his family. Instead of preaching about God's love and how he forgives those who make mistakes and repent all he talked about was hellfire and how evil and sinful humanity is and how they will never live up to God's standards.
>>70952618
Pornstars who look like this?
>>70959150
consorting with the devil
>>70948947
>Is his sister, yeah, but the bible has a load of incest.
what the fuck are you even trying to say? Every time incest shows up in the bible its considered a horrible sin and aside from lots daughters and that son of king David raping his half-sister i cant even remember any other occurrences.
>>70960568
Love this movie
>>70953341
holy holy black flip was prirate
http://youtu.be/hqe0WV2_98o
>>70946323
I haven't seen the movie, but burning children to make a spell or potion to fly isn't a new thing. If you remember, they did that in the warlock.
>>70960568
Thats crazy that you posted that while I was thinking about it
>>70961784 was me and I was probably thinking about it the same time you were. Like I said, I haven't seen the witch, but from what I've read, it made me think of Warlock
>>70948568
I don't know what kind of shit you've been smoking, but I'm pretty sure the goat was the damn devil.
I love how this scene sounds, on /wsg/ because /tv/ doesnt allow webms with sound (does anyone know why?):
>>>/x/1138793
>>70962315
whoops, first time I link to another board
>>>/wsg/1138793
>>70962794
>she sees your penis
Was it a metaphor for how black men take white women, turn them into witches who then torment and destroy their families?
>>70963313
No.
>>70963515
Why was the devil named Black Philip?
>>70963644
He was a black goat, not a black person. Before you say that him being black is significant and suggests black males, please don't. Instead read history and old folktales.
>>70953453
I want to________that tbqh
If the goat was Satan who was God?
>>70963644
Because Nigger Phillip was just a little too much
>tfw no elite team of special operators to send into the woods and hunt down the witch and Phillip himself
>>70961666
satanic trips confirm
>>70960885
Technically there was a lot of incest between Adam and Eves children and also between Noah's sons and their wives children. However back then it seems humanity was closer to perfection and were at less risk of genetic disorders. Also they had no choice.
>>70966123
This to be honest. My friends and I would of lit them bitches up and would of had goat stew for dinner
>>70964919
the judge that exiled them from the plantation (the paradise)
I loved how they played the pride card. Most pleb media always play around the other edgier sins such as wrath or whatever, because many people consider pride to be the least dangerous / least effective sin of them all and many disregard it.
Pride is the alcohol of sins. Everyone bitches about smoking and weed and stuff, when alcohol is easily the more dangerous of these addictions.
>>70969300
I used to drink 2.5L of boxed wine a day and im still fine
>>70969415
You're on 4chan you shitter. I wouldn't call that "fine"
>>70957059
Back then Calvinists believed that those who were saved and those that weren't was decided by god at birth. The only thing you could do was be a good person and hope for the best
>>70969415
your skin isn't supposed to be yellow
>>70945812
GOAT movie
>>70963644
Reminds me of the horse named Black Satin in the first series of Blackadder.
>>70959150
There's no proof that the twins died.
>>70948749
>>70948901
>stunt double
What is actually the point of writing in a nude scene if the actress won't do it?
>>70945948
we've already talked about it a hundred times, faggot
So it was implied that the witch/witches raped the son right?
I'll dump some shit I got from one of these threads
>>70970884
>>70946525
i_wished_for_goat_sex_though ;___;
>>70948947
If thomasin were my sister i would have sneak peek her boobs too.NO HOMO
>>70971917
>She will never play peek-a-boo with your flaccid penis
