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Bret Easton Ellis' thoughts on female directors
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What are your thoughts on women directors?

>There's something about the medium of film itself that I think requires the male gaze.

What would that be?

>We're watching, and we're aroused by looking, whereas I don't think women respond that way to films, just because of how they're built.

You don't think they have an overt level of arousal?

>[They have one] that's not so stimulated by the visual. I think, to a degree, all the women I named aren't particularly visual directors. You could argue that Lost in Translation is beautiful, but is that [cinematographer Lance Acord]? I don't know. Regardless of the business aspect of things, is there a reason that there isn't a female Hitchcock or a female Scorsese or a female Spielberg? I don't know. I think it's a medium that really is built for the male gaze and for a male sensibility. I mean, the best art is made under not an indifference to, but a neutrality [toward] the kind of emotionalism that I think can be a trap for women directors. But I have to get over it, you're right, because so far this year, two of my favorite movies were made by women, Fish Tank and The Runaways. I've got to start rethinking that, although I have to say that a lot of the big studio movies I saw last year that were directed by women were far worse than the sh***y big-budget studio movies that were directed by men.

http://movieline.com/2010/05/18/bret-easton-ellis-on-american-psycho-christian-bale-and-his-problem-with-women-directors/3/
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>>70761693
if he adds Novels, Science, Philosophy and Art he may have something
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>>70761693
I'm a woman and he sounds pretty based. Unfortunately feminists will go nuts over his comments and say he's a white privileged shitlord.

He should probably think about The Matrix though, one of the best films ever made.
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>>70761786
Directed by men.
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>>70761851
women*

And it was well done, anon.
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>>70761907
They both identified as men at the time they made it.
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>>70761907
They were still men when they made The Matrix
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>>70761940
Publically dude, they've said that they hid their shit inside before transitioning. Lana was on low dose female hormones at the time before fully coming out.
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I think it's largely true. Women, on the whole, are more attuned to principle and rationalism while men are more attuned to experience and idealism. The entire idea of taking something and breaking preconceptions of it to make something new, or just exceptionalness in general, is more in line with the natural strengths of men. Women have the strength of being better at being mediocre, if that makes sense. Women are better at making by very well while men either transcend or crash and burn. It's something you see in school, science, art, business, just about everything.
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>>70762013
Well, alright I guess.
I still consider it a movie made by men.
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>>70762050
>Women, on the whole, are more attuned to principle and rationalism
t. Lena Dunham
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>>70761693
he's just pissed a women adapted his novel for a movie and it was better.
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>>70762079
That's cause you're a faggot.
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>>70762081
Principle, not ethics; rationalism, not perceptiveness
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>>70762096
No, you're a faggot.
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>>70762137
No, you're a faggot.
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>>70761907
>>70762013
The guy may identify as a female but he/she still has the brain of a male.
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I'm not gonna lie, and I'm not trying to ruffle feathers here, cause I really couldn't care less about what he thinks (or anyone), but does anyone else feel like he's just spitting out bullshit?

Like, his thoughts don't connect very well? Is he trolling? This is the guy who wrote American Psycho. He's trolling.
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>>70762050
>while men either transcend or crash and burn
Brendan "The Just" Fraser is an example of the latter
>brace for butthurt redditcuck posting instagram pics
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>>70762198
Uh no, literally transgenderism is having the brain of the opposite sex.
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>>70762241
It is a mental illness. He was born male but believes/identifies as a female
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>>70762157
You ARE the FAGGOT. Not up for debate.
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>>70762265
Damn, you're a retard.
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>>70762013
It doesnt matter what they identify as, they are still men with minds molded by thousands of years of evolution
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>>70762118
>women
>rational
Women are fucking retards with Golden Labrador brains.
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Homie is going to get slammed by feminists for this. RIP
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>>70762282
You ARE the FAGGOT. Not up for debate.
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>>70762202
I don't think he's trolling. I think his ego is so bloated he just believes whatever he spits out at the moment to be correct and sensible.
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Truly great times to live in
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>>70761693
But women are highly represented in photography, and I think (although I'm not sure) that there are more female cinematographers than female directors.
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>>70762202
he's borderline contrarian and reactionary to modern gender/social politics. he hates SJWs and rails against political correctness at every opportunity, mostly through his podcast which every episode starts with a 15 minute screed against milennials.

He usually has more salient points to make than "women don't have a sensual or visual eye" though. This interview was from 6 years ago and I bet he doesn't hold the same view.
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>>70762202
>>70762326
He's genuinely crazy. He regularly tries to start Twitter fights with David Foster Wallace even though Wallace has been dead for years.
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>>70762403
lmao
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>>70762403
>He's genuinely crazy.

Is American Psycho a biopic? Is Patrick Bateman a self insert?
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>>70762050
Its how you explain men make up the majority of great artists and inventors and serial killers
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>>70762442
women haven't been given the same opportunities or airtime because of a self-sustaining bias that presumes men are more important, thus they're given more focus and the cycle continues.

Then when women try to do something mainstream, manbabbies freak out.
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>>70762318
You got me.
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>The Runaways
great taste.
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>>70762442
The artists thing isn't true anymore, though. I don't know about inventors. There have been many female inventors, however.

Serial killers is a testosteron thing, I guess.
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>>70762498
This.
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>>70761693

Ellis is not only a retard but he's also a shit writer.

And he's a disgusting pleb. The Runaways was one of his faves of the year when it came out. Yuck.
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>>70762088

But it wasn't.
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>>70762050
>Women, on the whole, are more attuned to principle and rationalism
you fucking serious m8
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>>70762285
Why is he retarded? It is the truth. We need to stop enabling people who are mentally disturbed by slicing off their fucking genitals.

We don't take a kid with ADHD and strap them to beds so they have to stay still.
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>>70762621
mental illness is not allowing someone to do what they want with their bodies because you feel icky about it.
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>>70762748
yeah this. I hate tattoos but I'm not going force people not to get them.
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>>70762363
>he hates SJWs and rails against political correctness at every opportunity
>mostly through his podcast which every episode starts with a 15 minute screed against millennials.

I keep wondering if David Rubin or Milo Yiannopolus will ever make an appearance on his show

>that hello snowflakes intro on Brett's penultimate podcast weeks ago

Also, tale of tales was a pretty decent film, I'm glad he talked about it on there
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>>70762403
Maybe David's ghost is in his house mocking him constantly and he thinks the only way to get rid of David is to start a twitter fight?
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>>70761786
But hes gay
So will his whiteness overide his gayness?
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>>70762908
It does for a lot of feminazis. They fucking hate white men. Gay or straight.
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>>70761693
I think he's an overrated faggot coasting on the cult following of American Psycho

Pahluniak shits on this homo
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>>70762856
it's only a matter of time since he loves to surround himself with Yes-men. He's a little like Maher in that way I don't even agree with him most of the time but at least he makes his points with intelligence and clarity.

>>70762908
Armond White is gay and he's one of the most outspoken conservatives in publishing.
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>>70762050
>Women are better at making by very well while men either transcend or crash and burn
you have something there, man
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>>70762748
No, it isn't. What you're referring to is intolerance.

Believing you are a gender you weren't born as is a mental illness.
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>>70762989

they are both awful writers for young men who read very little
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>>70762050
Too smart for /tv/
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>>70763010
>Armond and Brett

I'd like to see it. Even if they are both reactionary trolls, both of them are well spoken and verbose enough to make interesting points and at least clarify why they think the way they do
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>>70762592
as a /lit/-tard this guy is right
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>>70763145

the book and the movie are both shit
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>>70762748
I have been on 4chan over a decade and that goes in the top ten dumb as fuck comments I have ever read.

Self-mutilation and body hatred is a healthy attribute? Don't be a idiot. Trans people are mentally disturbed. No further proof needed then the unproportional rate of suicide they exhibit after the transition, or the desire to go back to their original sex that many claim.

Also being "mentally disturbed" isn't a big deal. PTSD, ADD, ADHD, and all that shit just needs proper meds and therapy. I would say a trans mind would be more akin to autism or schizophrenia though but even those can be treated.

>>70762831
Equating tattoos to gender reassignment. TOPLEL
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>>70763071
Go back to your Lolita general in lit.
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>>70761786
>The Matrix, one of the best films ever made.
oh please, go make me a sandwich u idiot
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>>70763070
gender as being discussed today is mostly the result of decades of social construct. It's fluid, but society has accrued rules that make it seem rigid. Barbies, the color pink, ponies, for instance: all considered female even though there is no reason a male can't be equally drawn to such things.

If you don't feel an affinity to your gender, there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to pursue your intuition or turn your back on your birth gender completely.

The only thing stopping those people: folks like you who think sexual organs should dictate behaviour.
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>>70762989
bruh Pahluniak peaked with Survivor
everything after that has been just shock value teen pandering shit.
He has been chasing the Fight Club dragon for a decade.

and I say that as a fan
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>>70763283
Haunted is literally the best 2spooky4u book of all time
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>>70761693
HE'S RIGHT, BUT THE MALE PERSPECTIVE IS SUPERIOR IN GENERAL

THE ONLY DECENT WOMEN DIRECTORS ARE THE ONES WHO TRY TO BE MEN

LIKE WHATS HER NAME KATHRYN BIGELOW
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>>70763192
would you call mastectomies self-mutilation? what about circumcision. nigga please, surgeries alter the human body all the time. Gender reassignment isn't even purely cosmetic: it's a psychiatric necessity for some people. if someone wants to do that to their bodies you don't have the right to police them or call it mutilation when to them it's a corrective.
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>>70763443
Pimozide 2mg/day
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>>70763443
this clown
Removing tumors or even removal for fear of cancer returning ≠ hacking off genitals in perfect working order simply because you FEEL weird
Give the false equivalency a rest

>psychiatric necessity
L O L back to tumblr

>if someone wants to do that to their bodies you don't have the right to police them or call it mutilation when to them it's a corrective.
Pic fucking related
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>>70762050
This b a good post
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>>70763629
>L O L back to tumblr
oh, you're 14. well that explains a lot.
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>>70762989
They're both pretty bad
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>>70763206

are you actually praising Palahniuk while criticizing Nabokov?

how retarded are you?
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>>70763666
Time for pouting
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>>70763793
>time for meme webms
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>>70763280
>sexual interest as being discussed today is mostly the result of decades of social construct. It's fluid, but society has accrued rules that make it seem rigid. pedophilia, incest, and zoophilia, for instance: all considered sexually morose even though there is no reason a sane person can't be equally drawn to such things.
>If you don't feel an affinity to your age or species, there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to pursue your intuition or turn your back on your species or age.
>The only thing stopping those people: folks like you who think systemic, societal bigotry against persons of incest should dictate behavior.
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>>70761907
>women*

Have a vagina, a uterus, fallopian tubes, and produce eggs for fertilization and reproduction of the human species.

Quit with the pretentious bullshit.
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>>70762050
>Women are more rational than men and less idealistic than men
>Women are better at making by very well while men either transcend or crash and burn.
You're a comedian
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>>70763835
That isn't a meme, that is real life.
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Is his podcast good? I like him as an author
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>>70761693
So we're just going to keep pretending that women don't check guys out too, eh? No such thing as a Female Gaze! Just like how women can't be sexist, right?
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>>70763734
>I'm a Nabocuck fan
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>>70763970
yeah it's great and I don't even agree with his zealous politics. His riffs on art are worth hearing,.

just keep in mind he's more into opposing the bad stuff than celebrating the good stuff. It gets a bit rant-y.
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People that say men and women are equal are deluding themselves. Men have created and done everything. All women did was talk.
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>>70763970
it's alright, the first 20 mins are great when it's just him shitposting about whatever, the guests usually are only as interesting as they want to be though, some of them are fun to listen to(kanye, tarantino) others are just boring
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>>70764082
t. man who hasn't done anything except talk.
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>>70764060
>I don't even agree with his zealous politics


he's a middle of the road liberal, whats so zealous about his politics?
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>>70763970
He can come off as a little pretentious, but I enjoy what him and his guests discuss. Especially his podcast with Marilyn Manson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249HbPxyLQw
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>>70764145
that civil rights/equality movements within Hollywood don't have a fundamental purpose for existing. I think raising visibility of minorities and imposing quotas matters and can be effective in the creation of better art. He doesn't.
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>>70764143
post tits or get out
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>>70762050
>Women, on the whole, are more attuned to principle and rationalism

The evidence clearly demonstrates the exact opposite.

Men are far more willing to make decisions that discriminate against themselves, if it benefits society as a whole.

Women are far more willing to make decisions that benefit themselves at the expense of society as a whole.

Police, firefighting, military, even business, have all been made worse because females refuse to discriminate against themselves for the benefit of society. That's why standards of performance, and the quality of service, has been lowered over the past 40 years.
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>>70761693
Eliis is a world renowned troll. He constantly says shit just to get a rise out of people. He's been like that his entire life. Doesn't mean he's never serious and he's completely right in this instance. The world's greatest artists are and have always been men.
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>>70763280

in what world does preferring things typically attributed by society to females as a male make you not feel an affinity to your gender?
Everything you listed is(thankfully) not exclusive to any gender, despite your use of societal constructs as a boogeyman

Last i checked, I'm allowed to like ponies without secretly wanting to be a woman and without being branded a ponce.

That being said, I'll happily indulge people in their fantasies but i'm reserving the right to be critical on the entire subject

Lastly, no matter how hard men like to think they're women, it won't change the obvious physical differences between the two genders, excluding the sexual organs.
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>>70764210
>I think raising visibility of minorities and imposing quotas matters and can be effective in the creation of better art.
>imposing quotas
>better art
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>>70764459
>Lastly, no matter how hard men like to think they're women, it won't change the obvious physical differences between the two genders
sigh. you desperately need to watch more trap porn.
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Most of the art I have enjoyed in 20 years was done by males. You can't even pull of any discrimination card since the advent of Internet art can spread further.

Women just aren't cut up for making art.
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>>70764476
well yeah: more voices, more minds, more variety = better art.
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>>70764583
equal outcome = equal opportunity; the post
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>>70764571
>experience art made only by males
>"only males make good art!"
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>bret easton ellis
on a more important note, did his character, patrick bateman, REALLY kill them /tv/?
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>>70764639
Don't have to be so butthurt, girl-chan
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>>70764639
I do not seek art made by men. I, in retrospect, can note that most of the art I've enjoyed was made by males. I really don't care if they have a vagina or dick, that doesn't change my enjoyment of the work. It just so happens, most of them (overwhelming majority) have a dick.
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>>70764628
More like greater opportunity = greater chances for better outcomes.
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>>70764583
>more voices, more minds, more variety = better art.
Look to your family. I happen to be white. In my white family there are atheists and a priest. There are fascists and coexist liberals. There are very intelligent people and dim stoner burnouts. We have people who get along and people who haven't been on speaking terms since the Vietnam war.

You don't need minority "voices" to have a diverse range of artistic works. Hell, most of them just bitch about slavery or whitey anyway so it's not like it's some grand tapestry of themes you're missing out on.
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>>70764680
forced diversity = equal opportunity in your mind?
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>>70764571
I don't dispute that, to a marginal degree, the creative output of men vs women has a biological origin. I just think that all of you are not fully grasping how immense and unrelenting the social pressures women are put under to de-prioritize their work over other social obligations, especially in the creative industries.
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>>70761693
welp, the Jews will now sink his career
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>>70764690
I think on the whole that there are certain elements of the female experience rarely portrayed on film. Thats perhaps something lacking in our film culture.
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>>70763443
>>70763443
>>70763443

you can't compare mastectomies or circumcision to SRS

one procedure in the overwhelming majority of cases is to prevent or treat breast cancer or to alleviate back pain.
the other has religious connotations in some parts of the world, is a remnant of a puritan era in other parts , and is used as a last resort for phimosis in other cases.

When a patient asks a practitioner that he's tired of having limbs or eyes etc. and asks you to help him , the usual response is prescribing therapy instead of amputating or gouging him because they realize their patient has clear mental problems.

in the case of gender dysmorphia, which is another form of body dysmorphia like the examples I mentioned, the response should be the same.

Not to mention that the surgery doesn't relieve the patients obsession with being a different gender and leads to a higher chance of suicide
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He's not wrong but shouldn't limit to film
There will never be a female Mozart, Chopin, Van Gogh, Jesus etc...
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>>70764690
>You don't need minority "voices" to have a diverse range of artistic works
this is just idiotic. You don't need white voices to have a range of artistic works either. Doesn't stop "more" from equalling "more." Like, literally.

>most of them just bitch about slavery or whitey anyway
and this is plain racist, which I guess shouldn't be surprising given where I am.

I suppose that's where my argument falters: I can't have rational discussion with people who assume minorities are inferior artistically even though that "whining" you decry literally invented blues and by extension rock'n'roll, etc.

this is a retarded level of discourse so I should probably stop here.
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>>70761693
What happened in this thread?

Did /lit/ see Bret Easton Ellis and start swarming into the thread.

I thought /tv/ was being colonized by /pol/
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>>70764788
>how immense and unrelenting the social pressures women are put under

Oh shut the fuck up.

You dumb cunts have been operating on easy mode ever since men were created.
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>>70765028
women are the primary victims of war?
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>>70765028
>"durr women aren't put under pressure!"
>[blanketly attacks women]
top lel

also
>ever since men were created
lulwut
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>>70765125
Hi Shillary
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>>70764949
>You don't need white voices to have a range of artistic works either

no one ITT argued this

>I can't have rational discussion with people who assume minorities are inferior artistically even though that "whining" you decry literally invented blues and by extension rock'n'roll, etc.

if your saying that blacks achieved artist success without forced diversity and in a time where blacks actually had codified laws on the books against them, doesn't that undermine your thesis that forced diversity is the only way we can hear minority art forms?
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>>70764661
If dubs, he killed them.
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>>70764571
i think some people are a tad bit uninformed;most people assume the creator of a show writes it or at least helps write the majority of a show when in reality that isn't true (think of how a lot of people assumed abbrams worked on a majority of lost but he was actually busy with various other projects)


You'd be suprised by how many shows have female writers and directors credited but most people don't care about doing this sorta research.

As for the reason there aren't more female directors i think it is because no production company is going to finnance large projects to an ammateur director;Most of the current well known female directors come from money or families that already work in the industry so they had that encouragement and network to fall back on

i think in the future we will see more because of sjws or because women will feel more welcomed to the field but probably not because we china now.
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>>70762748
>>70762285
I know you are baiting, but hear this.
The guy that was head in charge of helping people in Singapore to transition into females and was a huge 'celeb' because of this there, said that after he was forced into retirement that he only lied and believed none of it. He literally let everyone hear what they wanted to hear because it was easy money, he even wrote a book based on his experience with trans people and is still a revered psychologist and therapist.

Seriously, seek help. Even the US HAD military programs involved with turning people gay by messing with hormones and weaponizing it, some guerrilla warfare to destabilize enemy platoons and chemistry in war.
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>>70765472
Even more, my friend visited him half a year ago and the guy still did work on the side and tried to convince my friend to stay as a male and not transition, kek.
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>>70765127
Poor widdle babies....
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>>70765125

More like primary beneficiaries...
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Why do you guys think that some of the best editors ever have been women, though? What is it in editing that allows women to be great at it?
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>>70765651
obession and nitpicking
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>>70765651
visual story tellers
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>>70765651
>some of the best editors ever have been women
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>>70765755
HERE I GO
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>>70765784
AGAIN
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>>70765784
>>70765806
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>>70765755
Do Anne V. Coates, Sally Menke and Susan E. Morse count?

no seriously I have no idea how to judge editors separately from their directors
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>>70761907
Hmmmm, transitioned to female, and then crank out shit like Jupiter Ascending. Not helping your case.
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>>70766068
>Thelma Schoonmaker

there are a lot of GOAT women editors
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>>70765755
George Lucas' wife is largely credited for saving the original Star Wars movies before they came out. She edited them from messes to the films hailed today.
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>>70766779
ex-wife*
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>>70765755
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>>70765472
Do you people really think your puny little anecdotes are more reliable evidence than hundreds of rigorous scientific studies?

The stupidity never ceases to amaze me some times.
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>>70767265
what studies? and who was he talking about?
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>>70761693
The Runaways was fucking terrible.
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>>70762050

Apart from the rationalism bit you're right on. It's why someone like Jay-Z can be worth $0.5bn when a lot of the people he grew up with are probably living on the streets
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>>70764840
Nobody gives a shit about what writers have to say in today's society.
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>>70769415
Least of all a hack like BEE.
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>>70761693
Women compose great music. There are plenty of successful female photographers.

They're perfectly capable of directing great cinema, even if it's a male-dominated position.
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>>70762050
>Women, on the whole, are more attuned to [...] rationalism
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>>70769575

>Women compose great music.

no they don't. the word "compose" shouldn't encompass the primitive indie folk stuff you're most likely referring to. name me some female classical composers.
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Buttmad because the woman-directed adaptation of his most famous novel is a hundred times better than the original book.
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>>70772533
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>>70762363

but that's not contrarian, gender politics and feminism isn't popular at all outside of academia.
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Larisa Shepitko
Agnes Varda
Ida Lupino
Leni Riefenstahl
Chantal Akerman
Marguerite Duras
Kathryn Bigelow

Anyone that takes seriously the uneducated ramblings of a has been writer of edgy alt teen fiction on a subject about which he has zero training or skill should be forced to leave this board immediately.
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>>70772507
Look up Lera Auerbach.
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>>70761693
The direction on American Psycho did seem kind of antiseptic, but that was also kind of appropriate for the subject matter.
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>>70772862
>7 out of thousands of film directors

that doesn't really prove him wrong.


Leni Riefenstahl doesn't get nearly the credit she deserves though. She should be up there with Einstein, D.W. Griffith, and Cecil B Demille
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>>70762442
Women lack the strength, ambition and mental fortitude to be serial killers.
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>>70761907
1. Mr. Ellis was clearly talking about biological women.
2. The Matrix sucks.
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>>70773239
most directors come from money,wealthy women don't have the drive to be creative.
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>>70762592
Eh it kind of was. He made the point with the first chapter long description of a pop album followed by a chapter long description of a woman's neck hole being fucked.

The book is interesting. The movie is good.
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>>70773575
women change their minds way too fucking much to be trusted to make big budget decisions on a film and be consistent with a vision and see it through to the end.
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EVERYONE KNOWS WOMEN ARE SHIT, EVEN WOMEN KNOW IT BEHIND ALL THEIR MUH FEMINIST WHINING

MEN ONLY PUT UP WITH WOMEN TO GET THEIR DICK IN EM
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>>70774204
same could be said about a shit ton of male directors
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>>70774222
trips speak the truth
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>>70773575
>killing innocent people requires mental fortitude

It requires being an entitled babby lacking in empathy or sense. Suits men to a T.
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>>70774303
most serial killers are low iq trash
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>>70761786
>being a self hating female

kek brown nose harder, slut.
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does BEE have the best voice ever? its so comfy, he should do ASMR videos
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>>70774363
>Ted Kaczynski
>low iq

kek
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>>70774435
>one exception = majority

dumdum pls
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>>70761693
According to Patton, they make great editors though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcjlKcjVxTc
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>>70774222
I prefer women tbphwyf. I like the way they look and I like how they aren't men.
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>>70774222
I love women. Men are fucking nuts.
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>>70774472
but assigning labels to everyone in a group is bad and intolerant
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>>70774435
you do realize there are many active serial killers at a time right? last time i checked the US had about five.
Five that you had no idea that existed;Only the smart ones or ones that kill a shit ton of people get meme'd.
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>>70774582
They're serial killers, anon, not people.
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>>70774633
hateful bigot
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>>70774579
I've never almost been killed because of a woman. I could ignore a dozen instances and I've still almost been killed because of a man a few dozen times.
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>>70774699
you sound like a melodramatic cunt
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>>70761786
>the matrix
not sure if troll, or legitimately doesn't understand that he's referencing male neural biology which the wachoskis still have.
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>>70774763
>implying they're not right

My dad nearly killed me with a shotgun by accidentally firing it. Two other dudes I know have gotten into near fatal car crashes caused by their own negligence.
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>>70774763
The greatest threat to men and women alike is other men senpai. Deal with it
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>>70774966
eh, my sister pointed a loaded gun at me and my friends and my other sister started hydroplaning in the winter when it was avoidable
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>>70762050
This can be seen in IQ distributions by gender. Women all tend to clump around the mean, while are spread much further, reaching higher heights and lower lows.
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>>70775051
menaces
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>>70762050
If only categorization was this easy.
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>>70762050
>rationalism
>women

what the fuck am i reading
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>>70774763
Eh my dad was a thrill seeking sociopath. I've almost died in 3 scuba misadventures. We were almost lost at sea when he decided to sail from North Carolina to Florida straight, with zero communication or weather consideration. The first time I had a near death experience in a plane was when I was 4. I've been unknowingly lead into cliff areas while skiing. I was driven off an icy cliff driving down a snowy mountain on icy roads. I've been a passenger in 6 total car accidents. I've almost been shot, I've been stabbed, I've almost been drowned when I fell between a boat and the dock, I was in a head-on motor boat collision, I've had concerning run-ins with sharks when taken snorkeling at dusk on a reef with breaking waves, I've unknowingly skied in unmonitored avalanche zones with zero protective gear, I was left in Georgia when I was 13 after an argument about whether or not my mother was a cunt. My first memory is hiding behind a chair while my dad smashed things when my mom tried to divorce him.

I understand how scuba divers can panic and rip their regulator out and kill themselves. I understand hypothermia. I understand traumatic brain injury. I understand how terrifying nature is and how weak we are. I've touched the void. When I heard about the crash, my first impulse was relief.

But more importantly, I like how women have tits.
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>>70763280
You have a dick or a vagina. Thats gender. Everything else you mention is interests and hobbies. Fuck off
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>>70775862
YOUR DAD SOUNDS AWESOME WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT

YOU'D BE AN EVEN BIGGER FAGGOT IF YOUR MOM RAISED YOU

WOMEN ARE MEANT FOR DICKING AND LITTLE ELSE
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>>70775378
the aftermath of marxist education
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>>70762050
This post is well thought out enough for me to tell that you understand the situation far better than you let on. 11/10 bait.
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>Writer
>Pretending he knows what makes a film good
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>>70762403
nobody has screenshots of this to post?
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>American Psycho: The Movie
>directed by a woman

I wonder what his thoughts are about that.
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God, I hate women. So fucking much.
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>>70778428
My mom did raise me. My dad mostly just gave people PTSD. He killed his two best friends in an accident that was caused by his reckless, thrill-seeking decision-making. Almost getting killed in a plane crash when you're 11 isn't awesome. Almost capsizing on a catamaran in a fucking nor'easter when you're 13 isn't awesome. Car, plane, boat, scuba, and skiing related post traumatic stress isn't awesome. Learning that your 2 male father figure role models where killed in your belligerent dad's attempt to fly a single-engine airplane into a storm in the middle of the night isn't awesome. Having your skull crushed and spine snapped backwards when your plane lands upside down and collapses on you isn't awesome. Having to identify the remains isn't awesome.

His face was purple from being suspended upside down and all the blood pooling for hours before a rescue team could find the plane. The mortician made an effort but didn't really manage to set his jaw correctly before we had to identify him. One of his eyes wouldn't stay closed. They cremated him but gave us back his clothes and personal belongings. We threw them away in a Wendy's dumpster. They were covered in blood and piss.
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>>70761742
I've read decent fiction by women.
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It's okay for women, especially gay women, to stereotype and talk down upon men. But it's not okay for men, especially gay men, to do so.
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>>70780537
>PTSD
SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANTED TO PLAY WITH BARBIES BUT YOUR DAD WOULDN'T LET YOU

MAN UP MAMMAS BOY
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>>70775862
>Eh my dad was a thrill seeking sociopath

Mine was too. He was also a wife beater, terrible with money, and kept using my mother to get his ass out of debt. We haven't lived with him in 11 years but he still won't fuck off and leave us alone. He genuinely has no idea why nobody, even his former friends, wants anything to do with him anymore. Fucking insane.

>>70778428
Sounds like you love cock way too much, anon.
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>>70780654

>MAN UP MAMMAS BOY

Said the faggot on the internet that hasn't even experienced the smell of his father's crushed corpse.
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>>70779563
>I'm gay as fuck and love the feeling of my boypussy being penetrated by 20 cocks

we get the picture m8
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>>70761742
The vast majority of decent novels are written by women, you illiterate whore.
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>>70775378
Considering they're not the ones killing, raping, stealing, gambling, fist fighting, failing education, or suicide-ing in nearly the same frequency as males, I'd say they're far more rational.
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>>70780849
IVE SEEN DEATH

YOUR JUST A FEMINIZED >2016 SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE AND YOURE DAD WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING
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>>70781091
>YOUR JUST A FEMINIZED >2016 SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE
Literally you.
>AND YOURE DAD WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING
He was a socialist.
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>>70761907
No, Transexuals still very much think like men and have male sensibilities. It just comes to sex that it changes. They are just men with a mental illness.
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>>70781134
NOBODYS PERFECT

AT LEAST HE HAD BALLS, UNLIKE YOU

WHENS THE SEX CHANGE OPERATION LANA? HOW BIGS YOUR KUCK PORN STASH?
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>>70781368
>memeing this hard
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>>70781368

Eh you're boring.
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>>70762050
>Women, on the whole, are more attuned to principle and rationalism
>women and rationalism
what the fuck
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>>70781045
>or suicide-ing in nearly the same frequency as males, I'd say they're far more rational.
false
female committed suicide 4 times more than the average male, but male die more because they were effective and went through with it

yeah, that's right. even women suck shit when it comes to killing themselves
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>>70782008
also source
https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

>Females attempt suicide three times more often than males. As with suicide deaths, rates of attempted suicide vary considerably among demographic groups. While males are 4 times more likely than females to die by suicide, females attempt suicide 3 times as often as males

i fucked up about the 4 times, but the point stand
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>>70772862
i mean the fact that you had to include kathryn bigelow to pad the list kind of proves everyone's point
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>>70782008
>men are smug about killing themselves
>"we're more rational than women!!!"

jej
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>>70762428
>biopic
To some extent yes, Bateman is largel based on his lifestyle in New York, minor the homicides, of course.
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>>70764661
ellis left the question ambiguous, and it's not that important for the message of the novel/movie. BUT I believe he did, there are some evidences that they happened. Also the screenwriter for the movie said that they happened. The movie makes it a little more confusing because the ending spans in less than 24 hour, while in the book he visits Allen's flat after 6 months.
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>>70762013
>identifying as female
>being female
These are not the same thing.
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>>70762748
People can do what they want with their bodies, but people shouldn't be expected to share and encourage their delusion.

If a guy wants to act like a woman, have surgery to look like a woman and go by a female name, that's fine with me. I'll even placate him by using female pronouns, but he still isn't a woman.

In the same way I have every right as a human being to identify as a tea kettle. I can make myself look like one and believe with every fibre of my being that I am a tea kettle, and I'll very much appreciate if people would respect my choices and treat me like a tea kettle, but I'm not so self-important or so outright insane that I actually expect rational human beings to believe that I am one.
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>>70761786
>woman enters thread
>is batshit delusional
Imagine that.
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>>70763280
>gender is fluid
Sorry, what's a Y chromosome again?

BEHAVIOUR is fluid. Gender is genetically predetermined.
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>>70761786
The Wachoskis are straight up deviants that got sissified by a Hollywood madam that they both visit.
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>>70783876
THEY'RE A METAPHOR FOR THE LIBKUCK FEMINIZED FAGGOTS OF >CURRENT YEAR
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>>70761786
>I'm a woman
>Argues that trannies are women
You're not a woman, you're a man with a mental disorder.
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>>70772507
Agree with you for the most part senpai. Caroline Shaw is a pretty notable exception.
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>>70761786
Matrix is a flick though. Anything "film" that contains something called "bullet time" is not a film.
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>>70761786
Are you a chick with a dick :DDD
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>>70780960
I don't think a single book in /lit/'s top 100 chart is written by a woman.
And I know it's /lit/ but it's still pretty much the classics.
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>>70769575
Like in a ratio of 1:10, favouring men ofc. And I was being generous.
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>quote from four years ago gets 200 replies
>new podcast gets nothing
ayy
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>>70782058
>women are fuckups at everything even suicide
well, colour me surprised
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>>70781045
No, they are just playing it safe. It's women's evolutional strategy. Unless they are absolutely horrible in every way, a woman is going to reproduce because they have the vagina, which is basicly a limited resource, the bottom neck of reproduction. That is why women never have to risk, bad at taking risks and decision making and prefer security over freedom. That's the reason they never excel at anything and why also the reason why they tend to vote left.
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>>70762050
While the first sentence is total bullshit, the rest is true. Good effort, I rate it 7/10.
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>>70787333
Typical male, making excuses for how fucking atrocious they are as human beings and convincing themselves they aren't all irrational, testosterone fueled monsters.
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Women BTFO. Women in full damage control ITT
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>>70762363
>reactionary to modern gender/social politics
>hates SJWs and rails against political correctness
But those are the signs of sanity, anon.
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>>70763895
They're right though. This is why men are out creating amazing things and simultaneously being the bane of existence. They're the extreme ends on the spectrum, while women are in the middle, neither amazing or terrible.
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>>70787598
Sounds like the opposite desu, look at how triggered anons ITT are over >>70762050
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>>70787655
see>>70778555
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>>70779003
It wasn't much of a visual film, honestly.
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>hating the very creatures that gave you existence in the first place

Men are literally scum of the earth.
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>>70761786
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>>70787771
Pls stop bumping your bait thread. You have more than enough replies for a six year old quote.
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>>70764680
>lowering the standards with quotas will somehow achieve greater outcomes
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>>70787566
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>>70761786
Fuck this was a subtle one.
7/10
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>>70763895

Your problem understanding what he's saying is that you have an idealized view of what rationalism is.
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>>70761693
Sounds like Bret's trying to justify deep-set feelings of artistic mediocrity and misogyny. I note that the film adaption of American Psycho, widely considered to be Ellis's best work in a long and sordid history of terrible writing, is far superior to his hilariously bad novel.
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>>70762339
Instagram don't count as photography.
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>>70761693
I agree, especially when thinking about Sophia Coppolas films, though great, are all generally about the same emotional story.

One exception tot he rule off the top of my head is Lynne Ramsay, who directed Ratcatcher and We Need To Talk About Kevin, which especially the later, are extremely visual.
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>>70762050
>Women are better at making by very well while men either transcend or crash and burn
So much this. Men takes chances and doesn't care that much about what others think about them, women just want to fit in. Its due to evolution;
As hunters-gatherers the alpha men collected harems and had extremely many children, while many of the betas didn't have children at all. However pretty much all women reproduced so reproduction for females was pretty much guaranteed. Therefore men had to evolve to be different and take chances while women could get by fine just by following the pack.
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>>70787241
Gothic horror - one of the best genres in literature - wouldn't be recognizable without all the women authors who contributed to the canon.

But i think there's too much fetishization of women as having a 'different touch' in the arts compared to men, not really. Women were/are socialized differently (by other women) and this yields different results. It's not exactly surprising to hear that a young girl that grew up with her dad who was a bricklayer would be surprisingly interested in doing industrial work.
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>>70761786
I'm a woman and first of all, trannies aren't real women and even if they were, the guy was still a man when the Matrix was made.
Secondly, yes, of course my first reaction to this is to be offended. He's basically saying we're inferior (unable to have a "male gaze") and naturally prone to making shittier movies ("emotionalism"). Imagine a woman director saying that about a man, you'd lose your shit as well.
I don't think I'm less able to recognize a beautifully filmed piece of kino but hey, he could be right, for all I know. He could be wrong tho. I don't know and he can't no either since we can't look into each others heads. Why does he presume he knows how the female mind works? Clearly we just can't figure each other out.
In the end, I don't really care. Wasn't American Psycho directed by a woman? Did he dislike it?

> tfw being a woman on here is almost as bad as being a nigger
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>>70791741
hes a bitter gay.dont read too much into it.
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>>70762498
>women haven't been given

niggers weren't given shit and they invented jazz and blues (not to mention soul, funk, and hip hop) girls were given piano lessons for years'
a few grils can play
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>>70762241
Gender is a social construct though. We all have the same brain, just some dudes think they look better with tits.
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>>70762050
First part is shit.

The rest is right. Women has better % of mid range IQs but no notable IQs or retarded IQs.

They are decent at being mediocre. While Males can be retarded , mediocre or geniuses.
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