I didn't like it.
I don't care.
>>70565532
I like it
Totoro is actually a pedo serial killer and the the movie is a metaphor about the girls getting killed.
>>70565532
why is that thing holding an umbrella in the rain at a bus stop one of the most distinct images in all of film?
>>70565532
Neither did I, or Spirited Away either.
>>70565532
I did.
Okay.
Yeah I was kinda underwhelmed. But still fun to show kids. I like how Ghibli treats childhood.
>>70565599
Because it establishes the time and location and theme and mood of the movie
>>70565721
i agree
>>70565605
>>70565532
You have to be over 18 to use 4chins.
>>70565605
Same, but I loved Nausicaa and Princess Mononoke. Are there any more anime films, Ghibli or otherwise, like those two?
>>70569067
Castle in the Sky (Ghibli).
>>70565532
Kiki Does a better job at creating story with a child as it's protagonist in every aspect compared to totoro. I'm not saying totoro is bad, it's just that kiki handled child innocence so much better, it even incorporates fantasy elements that played a part in the movie but did't make it unrelatable.
Kiki is superior
>>70569673
Totoro's characters are little kids, but Kiki is in her teens. Mai Mai Miracle would be a better point of comparison.
Jap shit is pervert sex shit.
Get rid of it all. Remove japs.
>>70570189
It's better than Western animation, by far. The reason Disney is praised so much is because their animation was smooth and high framerate, but there's a lot more to animation than that.
>>70570088
American shows and movies are vastly more sexually explicit than anime.
>>70570435
You might be retarded.
>>70570711
Have you seen HBO?
>>70570711
TV anime does not allow nipples or genitalia, and there are limits to how how much sex (and violence) can be shown. Video releases don't have these restrictions, aside from having to censor genitalia (which is true for everything in Japan), but they usually aren't different from the TV version. Theatrical movies and direct-to-video releases rarely feature much in the way of sex and violence. Sex in anime, whether it's implied or on-screen to some degree, occurs once in a blue moon.
99% of the sexual content in anime is titillation and things like accidental groping played for laughs.
Things were a bit different in the 80s and 90s, for straight-to-video and theatrical releases, but that ship has sailed.
>>70571118
You're
Fucking
Retarded
>>70565532
I kept thinking bad things were going to happen. I thought the mom would die of her illness or the dad died in a bus accident when he was really late showing up
>>70571171
How am I retarded? What did I say that you think is wrong?
>>70571171
Sick burn, chad
>>70571118
>99% of the sexual content in anime is titillation and things like accidental groping played for laughs.
This makes anime worse than TV shows with explicit sexual content.
>>70571303
How does it make it worse?
>>70571349
It's more juvenile.
>>70571374
And?
>>70565605
Yeah spirited away disappointed me too but its probably because i never got the chance to see it in my childhood
>>70571410
Most adults experience secondhand embarrassment watching anime, but it's not really a problem for people who enjoy this kind of "entertainment".
>>70571432
The train scene is one of the best scenes in the history of cinema.
>>70571492
If only I could become mature and appreciate the entertainment value of rape and genital mutilation and the deeply meaningful artistry of promiscuity, cheating and cuckoldry.
>>70565599
Gimme a hug, man!
>>70571627
Stick to your panties and kyaa hentais.
>>70565532
I only liked Porco Rosso desu
>>70569067
Future Boy Conan, it's a series directed by Miyazaki.
>>70571702
Stick to masturbating to rape scenes and bragging about how euphorically mature it makes you.
>>70565532
It's ok. It just means that you have no soul.
>>70571735
Conan is kind of like a prototype of Nausicaä and Laputa.
>>70571750
Japanese are more obsessed with rape than any other nation.
>>70565532
good job not like thing
have more thing u don't like?
>>70571171
great argument, pedro
>>70571881
So that explains why it almost never happens in anime but is common on American TV. And why Americans are so into prison rape but there seemingly is no such thing in Japan.
>>70571881
the problem is that ameritards actually do rape women
>>70565532
>/a/
>>70572029
Well, in Japan at least 70% of school girls were molested on trains. The rape problem is probably pretty big in Japan, but their women rarely report it.
>>70571981
Because anime is for dumb kids. It often happens in Japanese films. Not only in porn.
>>70572247
ok, they might touch butts when they are in ultracrowded trains
ameritards rape and kill women all the time, it's not even funny
>>70572287
Most anime airs late at night and s not aimed at children.
>>70572382
So why it's more childish than Japanese films aimed at adults?
>>70572247
That's groping because japanese men are perverts. You know every product with a camera sold there has to have a loud shutter sound you cannot mute because so many men were taking creepshots on trains and in stores and shit.
I watch spirited away again for the first time since I was a kid, and I was amazed by how great the animation was. I just took it for granted as a kid.
>>70565532
Fuck off to /a/
>>70572455
You're right, it should more mature like American shows where you can entertain yourself by watching people getting raped and mutilated. That's really mature and deep and shit.
>>70572583
people don't get mutilated and raped on american tv because they censor literally everything
>>70572541
i see the redditor anti-weeaboo squad has arrived
>>70572638
That's complete bullshit and you know it.
>>70565532
Some people don't appreciate comfy, because that is exactly what this movie is all about.
The creator said himself the movie was supposed to inspire an appreciation for the forested regions in between the populated coasts and the mountains. The movie inspired a lot of natural preservation initiatives in Japan.
>>70572465
Well yes, and because Japanese women are more submissive than western women they very rarely report sexual crimes. I wouldn't be surprised if rape was more common in Japan than in the USA.
>>70572638
They get mutilated and raped all the time. They're just clothed when it happens. Americans love violence more than anyone enlse.
>>70572693
I have to second this. They don't show the penis going into the vagoo or anything, but there's a whole lot of camera showing the bad guy holding the girls mouth while she cries shots.
Also a whole lot of "oh yeah, they raped and killed her" offhand remarks.
>>70572744
I would Japanese men are not like American ones nowhere near as aggressive and forceful. Also, the japanese don't like physical contact nearly as much as westerners.
>>70572744
America is a country where rape is a quasi-official part of the justice system and celebrated by the populace.
>>70572841
>nowhere near as aggressive and forceful
>literally a country responsible for the worst war crimes during the WW2
They produce the most fucked up porn in the world and their porn is full of simulated rape. Hell, half of their New Wave works is about sexual violence.
>>70572978
Most JAV is vanilla.
>>70572978
Oh fuck off. That's just what you search for. They have a lot of that shit but that's nothing compared to the rest of it. They just make that much more porn.
I'm referring to the modern japanese man. The manchild that has led to the decreasing birth rate across that entire country. The guy that goes to a store to buy a egg to masturbate into.
>>70573080
No.
>>70565605
>>70571432
How the fuck can you not like Spirited Away? That and Mononoke are the top tier Ghibli films imo. Howl is a good one too.
Then again I just love them all.
>>70573159
The same guy that sexually harasses young women and girls.
>>70573160
Yes. I have watched and browsed a lot of JAV and most of it is vanilla. It's just an Internet legend that it's full of tentacles and vomiting or whatever.
Even when there's rape in JAV, it's of the "she doesn't want it at first but then she gets into it" kind, or there's just some half-hearted token resistance. We're not talking about Irreversible here.
>>70573159
As usual, people blame the Japanese birth rate crisis on their pet peeve because it's convinient and because it's easier than considering the more varied and complicated causes that are actually responsible for the situation.
>>70573221
You really should read up on the current sexual attitudes of the japanese. The government would be desperate for more pregnant japanese women.
>>70573290
Their lowering birth rate is because not enough women are having babies. The men are to blame.
>>70573310
Rape isn't exactly a healthy sexual activity.
>>70573243
Have you seen Niku Daruma? Please name something similar made by the Americans.
>>70573368
It takes two to tango, and the point is that they aren't having fewer babies simply because they're le manchildren. That's just your pet peeve.
>>70573382
>Have you seen Niku Daruma?
Never heard of it.
>Please name something similar made by the Americans.
Why?
>>70573436
>While Kiku rapes the semi-conscious Kana, the director cuts her left leg off with a meat cleaver, and mutilates her tongue with a knife, potato peeler, and shears to stop her screaming. When Kana passes out from the pain, she is injected with drugs to wake her up and keep her conscious. Kana's right arm and remaining leg are severed, and her abdomen is cut open so Kiku can have sex with her innards. After Kiku ejaculates blood-laden semen onto Kana's breasts, the director beats him over the head with the cleaver, and stabs Kana in the face with it. Kiku is then castrated by the director, who makes a phone call while the cameraman continues filming the mangled bodies of their two stars.
Yup, the Westerners with their sex in GoT are so much more depraved.
>>70573564
That's not porn, and there are Western movies with similar content. And what does this even have to do with anime?
>>70573630
>there are Western movies with similar content
Name them.
>>70573630
It has a lot to do with Japan.
>>70573692
Irreversible, A Serbian Film, Cannibal Holocaust, Salo 120, Human Centipede, Hostel, Saw, Green Inferno.
>>70573841
But what does it have to do with anime?
>>70573630
you can go to any decent public library and pull out any random book in the ADULT fiction section that has stuff a hundred times worse then this.
>>70574041
Even if that's the case, what about it?
>Watching Anime
are you 10?
>>70574315
Most anime made today airs at night and is not intended for children.
>>70574348
Most anime made today is utter shit.
>>70565532
I did.
>>70574398
Myth.
>>70574315
I don't think a 10-year-old child would grasp Legend of the Galactic Heroes' socio-political commentary.
>>70574449
Fact.
>>70571714
only man with taste itt
>>70565599
Its comfy?
>>70574520
No. Most Westerners have a horribly warped perception of what modern anime is like because they don't watch it and just listen to stories told by people who ALSO don't watch it.
>>70574718
I said MOST of it is shit, you literally can't disagree with that. For every Tiger & Bunny there's ten Psycho-Passes, ten Daimidalers, ten Sowrd Art Onlines et cetera et cetera.
>>70574841
I literally can since it literally is a myth repeated by people who have seen barely anything more recent than Cowboy Bebop.
>>70572765
And cliches, don't forget cliches.
*Cue laugh track*
>>70573883
They are not even close to Niku Daruma or the Guinea Pig series.
Except maybe Salo and A Serbian Film which aren't American films anyway.
>this autistic retard defends his junk entertainment again
kek, do you even watch real films?
>>70575629
>which aren't American films anyway.
>>70573564 :
>Yup, the Westerners with their sex in GoT are so much more depraved.
>Westerners
And I still don't see how this is even relevant to anything.
>>70575690
Serbia isn't exactly a Western country.
>>70574449
>Myth
I like how you genuinely believe that anime is in any way relevant. Especially modern anime not made by Ghibli.
I hate being a contrarian, but most Miyazaki films are boring, with similar, preachy themes sprinkled with "cutesy" moments.
>>70575784
We weren't talking about whether or not it's relevant, let alone who it is or isn't relevant to.
>>70565532
I love it. I think it's my favorite Ghibli, actually.
It makes me feel like I'm a child again. I think it's aimed more at adults than children, basically a dreamy nostalgia-trip for people who wish they didn't have to grow up.
>>70575733
>Serbia isn't exactly a Western country.
nice one
>>70575629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_QHJrI7DjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PToapr_EuEE
https://www.youtube.com/v/watch?v=N26g0tWxapg
There are plenty of Western films with grotesque content, many worse than this and in ways that don't just involve gore. To argue that the Japanese are more depraved simply because they have some sexually violent films is to ignore every other nation's grotesque entertainment industry. To argue that their porn is evidence of their depravity because of how the Western media puts the spotlight on it is to ignore other nations' pornography, such as American commercialized porn, with elements such as simulated rape, vomit, expelling food from the anus, slapping, spitting, gagging, etc.
>>70575842
its not contrarian to find kids films boring
>>70575916
It is. It's also the only anime on Akira Kurosawa's list of best films of all time.
>>70575952
>with elements such as simulated rape, vomit, expelling food from the anus, slapping, spitting, gagging, etc
You mean the elements that are way more common in Japanese porn?
Okay? It's a cartoon for children, /a/ and /co/ are thataway. Fuck off.
anime is dogshit
>>70575952
>>70576037
What the fuck are you even arguing about? Depravity exists in every country/culture and their respective entertainment industries. Who cares where it may be more prevalent in mainstream media?
>>70576037
citation needed
>>70576058
It's not a cartoon.
>>70576096
Then so is everything else.
>>70576037
Go to pornhub, xvideos, etc and look around. Common videos you will find on these sites along with commercialized porn such as Brazzers and Evil Angel have the elements from my list, along with cum farting, anal gaping, prolapse, and more. You're pulling this "more common" right out of your ass because you've got a representation of the Japanese as depraved in your head. The only one from my list that I would say is less common in American pornography is vomit. The Japanese are not more depraved than the Americans. Every nation's entertainment industry contains its own unique flavor of depravity.
>>70576223
Compared to what?
American interracial porn?
Or pedophile rings?
>>70576223
Rape is way more common in Japanese porn than in the Western.
>>70576223
>>70576256
Fucking hell /tv/, this is a Ghibli thread. At least it was going to be before you came and ruined it.
>>70565599
scale matters a lot in aesthetics, the relationships between lengths
I'm willing to bet "girl to sign, and sign to center of sign and monster, and umbrella length to monster length and eye width to umbrella width"are all golden ratios
I'm too lazy to check
>>70576284
You should put quotation marks around "rape," because it's not the kind of rape you're thinking of.
>>70565532
that's because ur a faget
>>70576256
I don't even know what you're asking
>>70576284
Rape fantasies manifest in American pornography through very violent sex acts such as gagging, slapping, forced action, aggression etc. which you will find on the sites I've mentioned with very little effort. I'd love for you to prove to me that this is more common in Japanese pornograpy, because while I'm giving you specifics that prove that American porn is just as depraved, you're just sitting around saying "no it's not!".
>>70576370
So why this kind of rape isn't common in Western porn if it's not real rape?
>>70576438
Why would that mean it has to be common in Western porn?
>>70576420
Except this violent sex acts are portrayed as consensual. Nice try.
>>70576485
Not always by any means. And so we're back to the fact that both industries have simulated rape, yet you can't actually prove that the Japanese have it or other depraved materials at a more common rate. Meanwhile, the "consensual" acts in American pornography still promote things that most real woman would never speak to you again for suggesting she let you do to her. Portrayal doesn't matter, because the same depravity and sexual deviance is displayed. You've just got a bias against the Japanese because of how they're portrayed in the media. Since you have no actual proof for your argument and just keep saying the same thing, I'll end this here so we can get back on topic.
>>70576645
>both industries have simulated rape
Violent sexual acts are not rape. And yes, it's less common than rape in Japanese porn.
> Portrayal doesn't matter
Of course it matters. What is masochism? They clearly aren't forced.
>because of how they're portrayed in the media
Actually it's because I consume their media.
>>70575916
>basically a dreamy nostalgia-trip for people who wish they didn't have to grow up.
In a sense that's basically what 'comfy' means. Spirited away kinda works in the same way, but more of a crazy childhood dream than reality. Those two, howl's moving castle and laputa are the best ones by far imo, kiki's delivery service is good too. I'm a 28 year old man who doesnt know shit about anime, I shouldn't really like these films but I do lel. Guess i'm bored of most other stuff.
This entire thread
My Neighbor Totoro is one of the few anime worth watching.
>>70576179
So what is it then? Anime is cartoons.
>>70577020
Anime and cartoons are different subsets of animation. Steamboat Willie for example is a cartoon.
>>70577011
Yes, I'm sure that out of the many thousands of anime that have been made during the last half a century or so, Totoro is one of the few worth watching. The Internet said so.
>>70576322
>a thread for anime cartoons
>on /tv/
That was your first mistake and the only one you had to make now fuck off already. This board has enough problems without having to worry about /a/utists.
>>70577055
Anime and cartoons are the same thing you fucking weeb mongoloid. What, are you going to say every country's unique form of animation is now a different genre? Christ sakes. That's the easiest way to trigger a weeb manchild... just say his "oh so sacred Japanese cartoon show for kids" is just a cartoon.
>>70577092
It's a garbage medium. There are more good horror films than good anime.
>>70577130
Anime is highly distinct from other forms of animation, and cartoons are a certain kind of animation rather than a synonym for all animation.
Cartoon is also most commonly used as an insult because it suggests something childish, trivial and cheap.
>>70577152
>It's a garbage medium
Then so is everything else.
>>70577205
>Then so is everything else.
The fuck does this mean?
>>70577130
Cartoons were never intended for children even in the West. An entire animation style is not restricted to a certain audience.
>>70577205
>suggests something childish, trivial and cheap
Like anime.
>>70565532
Honestly?Me neither
I tried to like it, I really did. It's just fucking boring and I didn't feel the heart in it at all. Based on all the genuinely good Ghibli films I don't know how this is one is so highly regarded while ones like Pom Poko is underrated.
Meme film shilled as 'comfycore'
>>70577269
It means exactly what it appears to mean: if anime, as a whole, is shit, then so is everything else.
>>70577279
That was true at first, but animation soon became almost exclusively associated with children in America.
>>70577313
No, not like anime.
>>70577335
Do you like the films of Yasujiro Ozu?
>>70577335
yeah why does nobody ever fucking talk about Pom Poko
glorious nippon has always been filled with utter pervert trash. since it's inception nothing but sexist propaganda in the form of "art", and boy does it SHOW in their culture. dudes jerking reading hentai in the trains. they have to put up "please don't fondle the women and kids" signs in playgrounds and public transport. they just don't care. openly perverted degenerates.
the only good anime is Evangelion
>>70577491
>the only good anime is Evangelion
Always nice to see someone making generalizations about a form of media they have no actual experience in.
>>70577491
As already explained in the thread, anime cannot even begin to compete with the sexual excesses of American media.
>the only good anime is Evangelion
Translation: the only anime I have seen is Evangelion.
>mfw people think garbage like LOGH or Monster is good
Well, I shouldn't expect a good taste from anime fans.
>>70577564
What about hentai? It's also anime.
>>70577618
Don
t care whether you were baiting or you genuinely believe it. Fuck you eternally. Take whatever enjoyment from that as you can
>>70577660
It has barely anything to do with the rest of the anime industry.
>>70577660
And so are western cartoon pornography videos and images. By your logic, pornographic live action media speaks of depravity of live action media in general and by extension the Western world.
>>70577695
Stop being a pleb and watch more good films. Soon you will realize that those "good" anime are worthless and childish.
>>70577850
Yeah let's watch great movies like Human Centipede and Alvin and the Chipmunks.
>>70571714
Real patrician detected
>>70577384
Because it's a revolutionary movie and this is a board full of fascists.
>>70577927
You can always watch Zootopia. It's better than any anime released this year and it's animated.
>>70573175
Cause im not a fat neckbeard weaboo
>>70578158
>It's better than any anime released this year
How?
>>70578231
It's a good movie, which is enough to be better than any anime released this year.
>>70578201
Spirited Away remains the highest grossing movie in Japan of all time. It received the Japanese equivalent of an Oscar for best picture. It won an actual Oscar for best animated movie. It shared first place at the Berlin International Film Festival. It's 97% on RT with 179 reviews counted.
But yeah, I guess only fat weeaboos could possibly like it.
>>70565532
I fucking love anime movies, every single one of them has a fucked up hidden back story/origin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVPJBDUAtqE
Seriously faggots watch this
>>70578314
There have been good anime this year, so I'm afraid that's not enough.
>>70578347
Name one.
>>70578321
everybody knows that japan is filled with fat neckbeards anon
>>70578341
>top 10 weeaboo memes!
fucking no
Didn't like it either, save the bathtub scene. It was too happy for me, overall.
>>70578423
fuck you man I got bored and watched it, it's fucking good
>>70578374
This is bait.
No matter what my response is, you will say it's shit and therefore you've been proven right. You've already pre-determined that there was no good anime this year. But if I don't say anything then you'll also claim you're right because I clearly can't name any good anime.
>>70578417
Stereotypical otaku make up a very small portion of Japan's population.
Look i dont mean to be condescending but these films are really intended to be seen as a child. I feel bad for anyone who didn't experience them as children because they are really special.
>>70579522
Something can be made for one demographic but still work for others. Spirited Away being a good example.
Fuck you, OP.
>>70579645
Totoro doesn't though. Of all the Ghibli films, it really is one that is for children alone, much like their museum.
>>70580825
Me and Roger Ebert didn't have problems watching it.
>>70580825
A child could never understand Totoro since its main appeal is the nostalgia an adult would feel while watching it.
