HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE
CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!
The spice is some good shit.
>>70452695
>stop taking it
>die
I wish Ridley Scott had made a decent Dune instead of Prometheus
>>70452747
Dune was Lynch's only good movie.
>>70452774
It was weird, and not in a good way.
>>70452774
It's pretty solid actually
People just cant deal with the fact that book is not that good
>>70452803
It didn't really tell the same story as the book though. The author's whole point was that Paul was flawed and not a god while David Lynch's Paul was shown as a good character who has magical powers like being able to control rain.
>>70452803
My dick was pretty solid too
Remember when professor X played Leto II?
>>70452901
literally auschwitz mode
The movie was done well and the videogames are all legitimately great.
But by god is the fucking 80's "cheese with ham" acting and cheap sets evident in some places (floating vagina mouth. saw the movie? you know the description fits) especially once the story reaches Dune itself. Some of the plot points also seem very rushed through as well, but thankfully everyone seems like the proper actor for their role.
>>70452774
Nah. It's awful.
But he didn't get final cut so it's not too much of his fault.
Jodo's film wouldn't have been so off the material. But it would have been amazing in its own regards.
Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him.
>>70453124
May His passage cleanse the world. May He keep the world for His people.
>Baron Vladimir Harkonen
>Gluttonous fat fuck
>Bad skin
>Lusts after sissyboy ass
is he the most 4chan villain ever
>>70453151
this image is disturbing, because i can see some dipshit director who likes CGI too damn much using it as an example of how the technician should composite the scene in the computer.> they fuck up a Dune """reboot""" as badly as the prequel trilogy or the new sequels
>>70453244
forgot to saystarwars
I WILL KILL YOU
>>70452927
>god emperor of dune will never be made into any tv show or movie or miniseries
>it will never be relevant
>no one will have ever heard of it
Just fucking end my life already. The greatest book of all time will die in obscurity
>>70452741
>keep taking it
>need to take it in constant gas form just to feel alive anymore, also to keep living
>become an immortal bat/slug creature who can fold space so long as you don't leave your dank-ass hotbox.
I could hack it.
Wait... there was another Dune reboot? There are now three Dunes? Is The third version any good?
>>70453319
I've only read the first book. Not sure about the sequels since that first one was so good.
Also decided to quit the series to start the Wheel of Time series.
I love how most self proclaimed "nerds" these days have no idea what Dune is
But they sure love Star wars and marvel shit
So geeky and quirky :)
>>70453451
Crazy thing is Dume is deeper than SW.
>>70453244
There should never be another Dune reboot. Lynch's Dune was great in and of itself and SciFi's miniseries was a good expanded storyline if you can ignore the low-budget set design.
Any director considering a Dune franchise movie should do something on the Butlerian Jihad.
>>70453468
>dune is deeper than star wars
well no fucking shit.
I've been reading the books recently and I honestly haven't been as impressed as I remember my teenage self being. The underlying story is really simplistic and often predictable as hell (partly because he basically tells you what's going to happen in terms of visions or some shit before it even happens) As well characters are kinda mary suee as fuck in terms of being stupidly overpowered and not nearsighted (unless they are the 'bad guy' and then they are generally way too simplistic)
>>70453559
>Any director considering a Dune franchise movie should do something on the Butlerian Jihad.
> man makes machine
> machine destroying man
> man breaks machine
worn out plots /10
YOUR ORDERS?
COMPLYING
COMPLYING
COMPLYING
>>70453559
I think a mini-series/show based on the first book/series would be amazing.
8-10 hr long eps is what's needed to tell the first book.
>>70452774
Lynch himself later admitted that at the time he wasn't experienced enough to handle such a large budget adventure movie and the end product was all he could salvage out of the thing.
It really shows too. He had amazing actors to work with, but their performances and chemistry were extremely awkward. It looked like they honestly did not understand what they were doing or saying in nearly every scene. What's worse, the storyline wasn't adapted from the book very well and just kind of plods along in weird spurts. Like one scene after Paul meets Chani, the narrator just declares "Paul and Chani's love grew". wtf?
I will say the set and costume design were on point and the movie just has that Lynchian charm. You can tell they really tried. It has a high meme potential
>>70453559
Oh boy, where do you all weigh in on KJ Anderson?
>>70452867
He didn't control rain, the Fremen released the storage of water which terraformed the planet and created rain
>>70452867
It basically oversimplified the plot so much that it missed the subtlety of how Paul and his mother were manipulating the fremen to accomplish their own goals.
The book really was the GoT of its time, but Star Wars was big and that kind of cynical storyline wasn't in style so they adapted it to fit the classic good guys vs. bad guys (rebels vs empire) archetype
>>70453663
Personally I never get tired of man vs machine, but I agree it's been done to death with varying levels of competency.
There's nothing new under the sun. You could say "it's been done before" about 9 out of 10 movie plotlines.
>>70453702
If they really committed to it and did the whole book series that'd be amazing. I could see it bogging down halfway in and getting cancelled though. It gets more than a bit cerebral and I don't think it'd translate well to a successful week-by-week show.
>>70453769
I assume you mean the prequels. Haven't read them to be honest. I just mentioned the Butlerian Jihad since it was referenced at several points in the original book series and apparently shaped history in a big way in the Dune universe. Personally I find the idea of prequels written by other authors to be heretical.
>>70452741
That's like saying eating food is bad because if you stop taking it you die
>>70453559
Good luck getting a studio to fund something with Jihad in the title.
>>70454066
Perhaps you need to be sent to a reeducation camp for your lack of tolerance, shitlord.
>>70453645
>this book I already read once is predictable
MANY MEEMS ON /tv/
NEW MEEMS
my fucking face when I didn't realize SciFi's Children of Dune miniseries existed
Please don't tell me it's shit.
>>70454658
It follows the books pretty closely, but had a shit budget and is generally just uninspired. Worth checking out
>>70454833
I'll take that. Watching E01 now.
Dune isn't science fiction. It's fantasy set in space.
>>70453645
Maybe because the whole plot is not about drama but the tragedy of knowing the future and being unable to change it??
>>70453956
>the GoT of its time
is that supposed to be an insult? it comes off that way.
>>70455706
No, you seemed to miss the context. I just meant that the original novels involves plotting and berayals between various different factions who are all aiming for power. Like GoT
Compare that to Star Wars where it's basically just good guys vs. bad guys. Star Wars had a simple plot on purpose because it was a feelgood adventure story, and it worked great.
Because of the success of Star Wars, they simplified Dune's plot to make it similar and marketed it appropriately. It obviously didn't work for the Dune movie though.
>>70455929
"That's not the only place where he's rusty!" Toadette giggled as she was making a sand castle with Lucina and Bane.
>>70452614
And he'll know, HE'LL KNOW, that is is I, Baron Vladimir Harkonen who encompasses his DOOM!
>>70453379
You fucked up then. God Emperor is amazing.
Oh, and required posting for this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B6jgkcANRE
Why was Dune sampled in so many techno songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRxRik22x5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx38oL4kfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7mx0nAxkco
>>70456203
Why it is usually goa trance?
>>70452927
Remember when Professor X played Gurney Halleck?
>>70454053
>I assume you mean the prequels. Haven't read them to be honest. I just mentioned the Butlerian Jihad since it was referenced at several points in the original book series and apparently shaped history in a big way in the Dune universe. Personally I find the idea of prequels written by other authors to be heretical.
just shut up. nobody should mention the words "dune prequels" and "film" in the same sentences, because if michael bay finds out he'll just fucking lurch out and do it. and if you thought jodorowsky's ten thousand soldiers shitting on the screen at once was bad, wait until you see michael bay handle the incredibly stupid and bad prequels with their giant robot battles and their one-dimensional characters and their stupid pointless insane shitty crappy fucked up asshole distortions of Frank Herbert's work.
>>70456437
spice is a drug. Goa trance festivals involve taking massive amounts of LSD. It's pretty straightforward.
Also didn't know other people were aware of goa trance
>The door behind Paul slammed open. He whirled to see reeling violence - shouting, the clash of steel, wax-image faces grimacing in the passage.
>With his mother beside him, Paul leaped for the door, seeing Idaho blocking the passage, his blood-pitted eyes there visible through a shield blur, claw hands beyond him, arcs of steel chopping futilely at the shield. There was the orange fire-mouth of a stunner repelled by the shield. Idaho 's blades were through it all, flick-flicking, red dripping from them.
>Then Kynes was beside Paul and they threw their weight against the door.
>Paul had one last glimpse of Idaho standing against a swarm of Harkonnen uniforms - his jerking, controlled staggers, the black goat hair with a red blossom of death in it. Then the door was closed and there came a snick as Kynes threw the bolts.
Was there a more brave and loyal servant than Duncan Idaho?
>>70456505
>Michael Bay
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>70456579
spice is indeed a drug, but I think in this instance it would be more appropriate to talk about Semuta.
I'm fairly oldschool. I know goa.
>>70452774
But it's actually his worst
So Dr Yueh... Brought down house Atredies, killed the Duke, tried to kill Paul and his mother, had thousands and thousands of Atredies soldiers and personal killed... ... just so he could get a very awkward stab at killing the Baron?
>>70456886
He thought he could get his wife back initially.
>>70456886
>>70456954
Was Atreidies in any way, indirectly, responsible for Yueh's wife dying?
>>70456707
>>Michael Bay
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
don't say i didn't fucking warn you. "the prequels have GIANT ROBOTS? i'm there!"
>>70457027
I don't think so. He just really really loved her.
>>70457027
I don't think they even knew she was being held by the Harkonnen. Whether the Harkonnen nabbed her just to be general assholes or if it was an anti-anybody-associated-with-the-Atreides thing, I dunno.
>>70454057
Poor example, chicken and fish are food but you can remove them from your diet and eat other things, if you stop taking spice melange you will 100% fucking die from the withdrawal.
Good luck when the space muslims cut off your stash, druggie.
>>70453112
Jodorowsky's film is good where it is--as a manuscript and concept art. It would have never been completed.
>>70456049
WELCOME TO LARRYTOWN
>>70453817
okay, that doesn't come across to the audience at all and also how the fuck would they do that?
>>70453688
RAPPORTING
RADIATION? MEH, WHATEVER
AT ONCE!
ONE FOR THE BARON
FOR GIEDI PRIME!
>>70453769
Everything that Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson have done with Dune is frankly awful.
>>70455665
That was the trap, senpai.Knowing the future commits you to a predetermined future.
The golden path is abolishing that; it'shaving free will.
>>70460007
>eat food
>exist on a mundane, mortal level of existence
>eat spice
>expand your mind, body and soul, live forever, travel the known universe
Yeah it's a real double sided blade.
>>70460657
>live forever
Long, but not forever. But yeah, spice is cool.
Hm, I wonder if Herbert actually experimented with stuff like LCD and such.
>>70460679
>LCD
Don't think they existed yet.
>>70456579
Goa head since '94, when I first heard Eat Static - Uforic Undulance
Avatar is the only good Dune movie.
>>70460679
Herbert was all CRT
>>70460697
>>70460903
Fugg.
>tfw read the book and wanted the Baron and Feyd to succeed
Atreides were more or less okay while still as a house but the Fremen parts are boring as fuck. MUH GREATEST WARRIORS, MUH HARDSHIP, MUH CULTURE. The politics were fun, revealed prophecies were not.
>>70453688
>>70460383
holy shit nostalgia. used to play this at all nighter lan parties
>>70461040
>revealed prophecies
Are you stupid or what. Like, I'm sorry but it's so annoying when people say about MUH ANCIENT PROPHESY as a criticism.
Actual spoilers:there's a branch of Bene Gesserit, Missionaria Protectiva, which sole reason was establishing very specific Chosen One prophesies on every world so that when they have their Kwizats Haderach he could trigger those prophecies to pose himself as a Messiah to those people, which Paul does (his mom is a Bene Gesserit and taught him that), except he isn't under BG control so he just uses it for his own means. I thought that was a pretty clever angle to take on the Chosen One shit.
>>70453956
It's even more cynical. The Bene Gesserit had been spreading 'contingency' prophecies and religions all over the galaxy for centuries so their agents could use them if they had a need.
The movie becomes amazing with the Spicediver edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK5eoV93oyg
>>70456886
he also wanted to make sure she was dead. Given that this is the Harkonnen, it's just as likely they kept her in a state of perpetual torture as long as she could be useful to them
>>70456203
Also half of the original Mass Effect score was heavily inspired by the Dune soundtrack. Sovereign's theme is pretty obviously based on the main Dune theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEc1OTFaWnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4E4umP9Qc
>>70461222
>Millennia from now, politicians will be actual witches
>>70461352
>half of the original Mass Effect score
Half of the so-original Warhammer 40k universe is inspired by Dune.The other half is Moorcock mixed with DnD.
>>70461365
I actually like Bene Gesserit. I wouldn't mind that too much.
>>70461384
not really. 40k is just Catholic space nazis, demon space nazis, and space elves and space orks. I can't really think of a single big Dune contribution other than there being a God Emperor
What's with all these dune threads lately?i like it
>>70461135
It's still a Chosen One prophecy even if it's a planted one.
>>70461550
The whole anti-AI and Man of Iron schtick is from Dune.
>>70461572
well it is also a chosen one prophecythat has massive negative effects on the Fremen within years adn utterly destroys their society in the long-run
so really it's basically the opposite of your cliche muh saviour from another world storyline
>>70461550
>Catholic space nazis
Orange CATHOLIC Bible.
The whole mix of sci-fi and history stuff is a Dune thing.
>>70461572
It's a complete reversal on the dull old trope that has completely opposite message and tone.
>>70461623
there's no prohibition on AI in 40k though, it's just that humanity has regressed to the point where they just don't understand older technology and lack the scientific mindset to rediscover or innovate. The scarcity of computers isn't out of choice like in Dune.
If anything, it's closer to galactic society in the earlier Foundation books when the Foundation maintains power with a church of technology, building and maintaining power plants and spaceships that most of the galaxy no longer understood
>>70461651
Still, Fremen are boring shits and we're talking just the first book.
Also, don't tell me it's not a revealed prohpecy when all Paul and Leto are trying to do is trying to save mankind from some vague looming catastrophe.
>>70461782
A catastrophe Paul himself has locked the humanity in by his prescience.
>>70461782
butPaul and Leto ARE that looming catastrophe. The whole point of the Golden Path is that Leto has seem every other future have mankind fully dependent on one person or a small group of people that control its destiny, almost always guiding it because of prescience. This inevitably leads to self-fulfilling prophecies and disaster, like Paul with the Jihad he couldn't prevent. Leto saves mankind by scattering them across the galaxy so they can never be controlled by 1 force again, and by breeding the Siona gene and encouraging No-sphere technology from Ix to render prescience useless and give people real freedom
>>70461895
>>70461828
Still a prophecy
>>70462032
The Muad'dib stuff is not a prophecy. It was planted, then used. Linear continuity.
The "bad future" is a prophecy. Paul can't do shit about it though. Well, he can, but he lacks the will. His son doesn't, though.
>>70460657
Now imagine there's only one food provider in the whole universe
>>70461756
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Age_of_Technology
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Age_of_Strife
>>70462244
To be fair, unless you count prequels (why), Butlerian Jihad was never explicitly described as "man vs. machine". In fact, in Dune it's stated to be something like "man vs. man who wanted to control him with machines".
>>70453379
Third book is probably best one
>>70453319
It would look cheezy on screen I believe.
>>70462244
Right, there's a lot of forgotten knowledge because humanity reverted to barbarism for a few millenia when the galactic government fell apart, but again, that's basically the same as Foundation, not Dune. And there's a ban on true AI because of a war against the Men of Iron who tried to enslave mankind, which is a standard scifi trope found it tons of different places.
In Dune the ban on thinking machines is purely religious because the Butlerian Jihad thought they demean the human soul. in 40k the Inquisitors don't give a fuck about that; hell Mars basically worships machines and people are fine with it
>>70462351
That's basically how it's described in the prequels, too.Man tried to control other men with machines, but lost control of said machines.
The prequels are shit, though.
>>70462536
I always got more of the "mankind surrendered its thinking to machines which made society stagnant and ended ingenuity" vibe from the original books
it also fits well with the overall theme of rejecting messiahs. Paul and his prescience were one path that doomed humanity because they surrendered their free will to the oracle, humanity entrusting its future to AI 10000 years early mirrors that perfectly
>>70462660
You're forgetting thetitan cymeks.
After game of thrones success, next will be Dune, right guys? I can only dream
>>70461557
another Reddit invasion.
>>70462737
Next is Foundation
>>70462660
Never mind >>70462705, I misread your post. Yeah, that's the impression I got from the original books too. Thetitans in the prequel originally subjugate humans, and then themselves are supplanted by the omnius, and choose to be subservient to it.
>>70462454
It's mainly because their society relies on the Mechanicus for all their technology. Mars gets away with alot of shit that no one else would.
>>70462737
Why would you want Dune to be butchered like got?
>gurney will become le designated quip man
>Yueh will be some sort of villain who hates the atreides
>Feyd-rautha will take out the atreides forces in arrakeen with his 20 good men, no sardaukar required
>>70462787
right, but I mean technophobia isn't a central tenet of the culture of the Imperium. People don't understand it, maybe they don't trust it, but that has to do with its rarity and it's unknown nature rather than a strong organised religious opposition to it. It's always been Chaos, heretics, xenos, and traitors that are the chief enemies in the eyes of Imperial society
The closest you have is the organised opposition to tech heresy, but even that is mostly to do with using xeno or Warp tech and fits with the standard Imperial hates
>>70462942
because it is possible it can be good. GoT's first couple seasons was pretty good.
>>70463071
See, the current seasons of got are more popular with the normies than the earlier ones, so if dune ever gets made into tv series, i'm afraid it will be like got season 5 and 6 with rerarded writing and omgsoshocking whatatwists
>>70452614
>Marlon Brando: The Later Years
>>70453000
> film made in the 80s
> OH MY GOD THIS FILM IS SO EIGHTIES
what did you expect, eisenstein?
>>70453663
the Butlerian Jihad would make a pretty good film if they used Frank Herbert's ideas as described in "the Dune Encyclopedia" and not the saturday-morning-cartoon version from the prequels.
>>70460403
>frankly awful.
lollity lol lol.
>>70463693
Dune Encyclopedia wasn't written by Herbert and isn't canon. Plus it's filled with retarded shit like Holtzmann become an asteroid that passes by Earth every 200 years and dispenses some new science very orbit and shit
>>70460142
>Jodorowsky's film is good where it is--
> mutant cyborg dogs visit the Museum of Man to hear a ROBOT read out man's history
> Leto Atreides was castrated by the bull that killed his father
> Baron Harkonnen has his men shit on the field at Arrakeen before they leave to show his displeasure
> despite the incredible gift of water this would have been
> the emperor has a robot double and people can't tell them apart
> despite the Great Convention that forbids machine minds
jesus christ, if jodorowsky wants to shit up an intellectual property, let him shit up one of his own.
>>70461557
someone found what they think is Jodorowsky's script and storyboards for his Chilean alchemist's fucked up vision of what he thought the film should be.
he claims it's not real but there are a fuck of a lot of parallels.
http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered
>>70462536
>> Butlerian Jihad was never explicitly described as "man vs. machine".
>That's basically how it's described in the prequels
no, it wasn't. you are demonstrably wrong.
Herbert's original view of the Butlerian Jihad was people using automation to hide from the results of their decisions. the administrator of the automated hospital that aborted Jehanne Butler's child was a human.
the prequels invent a skynet AI called Omnius and a collection of mecha cyborgs and an independant robot named Erasmus who, despite being connected to the biggest fucking computer network ever made, can not understand human nature and kill's butler's child at the age of two.
>>70463732
is that any more retarded than kevin j anderson's giant robot battles?
> TUMBLING TUMBLING DOWN
>>70463892
Jodorovsky would be the worst thing that happened to Dune ever
seriously its so good he never got to make the movie, that retard didn't even read the fucking book
>>70456203
>that moment when the synthesizers kick in in Dancing Galaxy
holy fuck this is top-tier vintage techno right there
>>70462536
>>70464014
>That's basically how it's described in the prequels
was in reference to
>In fact, in Dune it's stated to be something like "man vs. man who wanted to control him with machines".
Apologies. I've been drinking all night.
The story in the prequels did go from man vs man in the prequels wrt the titans.
>>70455929
Only the first book was about it. The sequels indulged into philosophical mumbo-jumbo and narcotrips.
>>70464434
what are you talking about, Messiah was entirely about 5 major powers in the galaxy working together to kill Paul, and Children was entirely about House Corrino trying to regain ascendancy at the expense of House Atreides
if anything the political house shit increases in the series
>>70452614
What would happen if you injected spice into your dong?
>>70465192
very premature ejaculation
