Future King and Queen in the North Edition
All hanged >>70409386
>>70412920
First for Azor Jon
>>70412637
>tfw no qt bookfag gf to torture you
Just stop with your fucking incest fanfics already.
who /NK/ here
xth for queen shireen
Daily reminder to GET HYPE for the next episode
Reminder that GRRM has written zero (0) pages specifically for TWOW.
>>70412920
The real King and Queen in the North.
>>70412914
>That's not really true though.
what?
The only thing that can have a true/false label (i.e. not an opinion) is "the show deviated a lot from the books"
Regardless of your opinion about the show being entertaining or not, I don't see how you can say this isn't true.
>>70412994
but she died?
Friendly Reminder.
Gendry the Storm's End, The Usurper's Bastard, The Baratheon Bull, The Blacksmith's Hammer, King's Blood, The Torrent of Waters, The Lord of Bastards, The True King of Westeros.
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN
>Sansa and Jon find out that Jon is Lyanna's son and thus Sansa's cousin
>Sansa blurts out that this means they can marry, and it would make sense politically to solidify their hold on the North and even claim the Iron Throne
>Jon is shocked, say that Sansa will always be like a sister to him, he could never marry her
>Sansa reminds him that the Targs have always wed siblings together, and even the bastards on the Throne now the spawn of siblings
>She pushes Jon to the bed and climbs on top of him, pinning him between her powerful thighs
>he tries to fight back but his arms are pinned against his sides and she's too strong
>she squeezes him into submission and then undoes his pants, forcing him inside of her
>>70412994
BEWARE
BEWARE
THE POSTER BELLOW ME IS ONE OF VARYS LITTLE BIRDS.
>>70413035
so she can never die.
Immortal Queen Shireen for the Iron Throne!
>>70413025
She's like a 10 years older than him and he's still a teenager in the show
>>70413081
Agreed. Given she's Jon's twin it makes no sense
>>70413067
>>70413080
>Varys is pro-Baratheon
BASED
>>70413029
When I said "that's not really true" I was talking about your statement about my feelings on whether I liked the show or not or hated it.
It certainly has deviated far enough from the books to be considered an entirely separate universe. However that alone doesn't bother me at all. Deviations and changes and omissions are fine as long as what we do get feels true to the SPIRIT, tone, and THEMES of the books.
Sadly...
>>70413053
Who's that? Jalabhar Xho?
>>70413045
g-go on?
>>70413081
It doesn't matter.
>>70413053
>tfw playing CK2 and Margery cucks Tommen with Jalabar Xho and names their little nigger child Jaime
any spoilers for next ep?
>>70412994
They should have put more emphasison her death, I didn't get as nearly as depressed when she died in comparison to Hodor. Hodor's scene was really well done with the music and scenes, sad shit.
>>70413151
>bongistan genes
jesus christ
>>70413113
Is she though? I know that theory is alive, but the three-eyed raven wouldn't have said Howland Reed was her father, he'd have just said that's Howland Reed, seems odd for him to straight up lie to keep a secret for something Bran was going to find out soon anyways.
post more ck2 screenshots
>>70413045
Sansa will marry Littlefinger by the end of the season and there's nothing Jon can do to stop it
is sam's gf supposed to sound retarded? what's she like in the books?
>>70413171
Are you sure you watched the same show as me?
For me it was heart-wrenching
And I'm not the type of person who gets emotional about TV shows.
I mean sure D&D completely fucked Stannis' character, but if you look at just the show, it was really well done on an emotional level.
>>70413151
In Westeros sure, in real life, pffft. She was born in 90 and he in 99, they're an entire generation apart.
Besides Ellie has better taste than that shit.
>>70413213
she's not retarded she's a qt
>>70413213
She's a snow redneck. So yes
>>70413219
Perhaps it just didn't hit me as hard because I could see it coming. I haven't read the books but the whole Hodor scene was so fast that I think that the pace of that scene had a lot to do with how I reacted to it.
>>70413213
She's not retarded, but she is pretty timid and doesn't know a lot on account of living with her dad/husband on a shit covered hill north of the wall.
>>70413213
Did you think some cum dumpster whore born of incest and North of the Wall was going to be smart?
>>70413181
That old dude was useless as shit and told Bran almost nothing of value. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that he deliberately misled him.
>>70412990
DO IT FOR HIME
>>70413053
poetry
>>70413041
He's too busy rowing his rowboat in circles out in the Narrow Sea.
>>70413213
In the books she is really smart. Littlefinger/Varys smart.
>>70413045
NO THIS IS ENOUGH
ENOUGH
MY DICK CAN'T GET MORE HARD THAN THAT
>>70413171
Tiny girl screaming(she did so well) to death by being burned alive while her parents watch.
VS.
HOLD THE DOOR, HOL DA DOR, H-HODADOR, HODOR. I couldn't give any fucks for Hodor. He deserved a much better death scene.
>>70413324
lol that's hilarious
When was the last time I seen Ramsey & Tyrion?
Seem like ages ago bro.
>>70413365
He's trolling.
She's not ultra intelligent, but she's not dumb.
Especially given the circumstances of her birth and upbringing.
>>70413365
No it's explained really well. If you read between the lines you can figure out that she is a descendant of the Starks and isn't really Crasters daughter. Check it out
>>70413025
>>70413151
> OTP
Soon I must sleep.
Does anybody know if there are already any leaks?
>>70413045
nah after bastardbowl jon would do it
>>70413151
She is 17 as of the latest book, same age as Jon, and Bran is 10. Not many 17 year olds looking to fuck some 10 year olds. Even show watchers would find it odd considering how different they looked when they first met, show watchers may not care most of the time to pay attention, but they know the difference in age, hell my mother does and she sure as shit doesn't pay attention to half the stuff.
>>70413321
GRRM confirmed Gendry was going to meet Arya again.
>>70413363
He looks like one of the Nazgul in the spirit realm.
>>70413422
Most of the Wildlings are descendants of Starks. Craster would have initially fucked a wildling and then all the daughters and such.
how will sam affect the game of thrones?
or is his story useless padding?
>>70413444
She is one freaky slag.
Would still have tall children with
>>70413501
Yeah but in the books it's heavily implied that she isn't Crasters daughter at all. That's how they explain away how smart she is.
>People actually think Euron is a magic genius wizard who is going to be super intelligent and fuck everything up
He's a dumb fucking psychotic pirate with a cock fixation. He'll never accomplish anything before being killed by either Yara or Theon. The Greyjoys are retarded, all of them.
>>70413515
king in the larder
>>70413544
>“IRONMEN,” said Euron Greyjoy, “you have heard my horn. Now hear my words. I am Balon’s brother, Quellon’s eldest living son. Lord Vickon’s blood is in my veins, and the blood of the Old Kraken. Yet I have sailed farther than any of them. Only one living kraken has never known defeat. Only one has never bent his knee. Only one has sailed to Asshai by the Shadow, and seen wonders and terrors beyond imagining...”
>>70413151
What is wrong with this woman?
In one picture, she looks cute and tantalizing, in another she looks hideous.
>>70413515
Glass candles and uncovering the maester conspiracy. He's going to be quite exciting
>>70413515
Show Sam will kill his father, devastating House Tyrell and will ultimately cause them to lose when Dany invades since their star military commander will be dead
If book Sam is lucky and Jon lives to the end (which is highly doubtful), he may have his father and brother bowing to him someday as hand of the King for whatever's left of the Seven Kingdoms
>>70413544
You put respek on it when you talk about EdgeGod like that.
Or he'll make you pay the iron price
>>70413595
She always looks cute and tantalizing.
>>70413544
Maximum showfag detected
>>70413224
>he was born in 99
.. has it been that long guys?
>>70413714
Yes, yes it has. You're getting old anon, kids born in like 2002 are freshman in high school now.
>>70413531
What the fuck are you on about?
Why did the show Pink Letter quote the Book of Revelation?
>>70413748
What year were you born anon?
>I have the mountain
did anybody else enjoy the confirmation?
>>70412920
>>70413045
>>70413355
Quit samefagging your shitty ship
In the name of Queen Puppyfu the first of her name, Eternal /got/ Queen of Love and Beauty I order you to leave this thread
>>70413827
They've said he's Gregor like 3 times this season.
Noboy seems to care an undead abomination is walking around as a KIngsguard.
>tfw I enjoy more shitposting on /got/ that actually watching the show
>>70413579
>You will never lash your disloyal brother and some whore to the prow of your ship before meeting the Redwyne fleet in battle.
>>70413810
1990
>>70413130
ah. Guess it was just a misunderstanding. The thing I posted is actually a quote from the girl who cosplayed as a female Ramsay Bolton.
>>70413858
I meant more in reference to the trial by combat versus the faith militant.
>>70413827
They already addressed him as Sandor Clegane earlier in the season.
>>70413045
sansa is shit and jon is shit and JonSa is even worse.
your fanfic is ok for a quick fap but HORRIBLE choice of characters.
>>70413953
Shit meant Gregor
It's 5am, cut me some slack
https://youtu.be/mZn3ZZMGpDE?t=947
>I don't want them seeing my arse
>Or yours
What did he mean by this?
>>70413992
>37 minutes
Whats wrong with you?
>>70413953
>>70413988
see >>70413934
just that further confirmation I liked.
>>70413893
Ah, I see. I found the pic on Deviant Art, I think, but I didn't look into her profile or anything.
eternal reminder
>>70413151
ship denied
>>70413992
weird that youtube's url only uses seconds, assumed it was 9:47
>>70414250
She liked the big whiteice spear
>>70414238
add Bronn you dumb fucking fat faggot
If the leaks are true, Im disgusted that D&D dishonored the Umber name. Smalljon died defending Robb in the book, and on the show he is an oathbreaker and a traitor who handed over a Stark who sought refuge with him. Disgusting
>>70414238
sansa is ours now
>>70414250
WALKERED?
Meow
>>70414289
Yeah, what a strange and surprising occurrence that D&D completely misunderstand and destroy a book character on their shit show.
>>70414289
Well neither of them really exist, so...
>>70414339
Not surprised, just disgusted. The vast majority of people will never know that the Umbers were actually loyal
>>70413595
Anyone looks sexy next to rampant british genes
>Normies hate this man because he doesn't like his fat nu-male son for dating outside his race and expecting him to take care of his son's wife's son.
>>70414238
I can't wait for Edmure to make his clumsy and whimsical yet daring escape.
>>70414238
most redditors i know hate the fuck out of the sparrow for micro aggression against lgbtqi* and women in general
>>70414238
eternal reminder that somebody posted this to reddit and they claimed Stannis as theirs
eternal reminder that Stannis is peak reddit
>>70414238
We have only 1 guy fool.
Reposting
Going along with a little parallel between the Sansa's scene asking where Theon would go and her scene asking Jon the same thing, and both later trying to rally people.
I think the Glovers will at first not even wanna listen to Jon since he's just a bastard and has no right to Winterfell and the North's loyalty, and so Sansa will have to vie for Jon and like Theon did for Asha, vouch for him, recognize him as more worthy and important than herself and say something along the lines of even though he doesn't bear the name, he is more Ned Stark's child then she is.
Would also kinda make up more for calling him pretty much a bastard before in front of Davos and Edd.
>>70414415
Wildlings aren't a race anon, they're just a bunch of Stark descendants that happen to live beyond the wall. Sam still sucks though.
>>70414368
They decided to make the most civilized wildlings into barbarous cannibals. This is what they do.
>>70414444
4 Quads confirm Stannis is reddit
>>70414415
Sam is intelligent and useful, and this fucking idiot wanted him dead at the wall. Should have sent him to the Citadel instead. Not many people can read in Westeros, let alone read and have the hunger for learning.
>>70414289
Jon explicitly told Stannis in the books not to march the Wildlings south with him as it'll piss off the Umbers, because of this some of the Umbers support Stannis because he's technically neutral in the whole thing, the rest don't since the Lannisters still have Umber hostages
In the show and the books, Jon makes the Wildlings the new neighbors of House Umber, in the books they all don't like it but some don't care want revenge against the Boltons and back Stannis, and others back the Boltons to protect their captured family members
In the show, they're more pissed off about the Wildlings being their new neighbors, and since there's no technically neutral third party to back like Stannis anymore, they all back the Boltons instead of Jon
Reminder that Brienne, who since the start of the War of 5 Kings has sworn vows to members of three different warring sides, criticised Davos for not being loyal.
>>70414444
dead and now reddit
it hurts to have been a stannisfag
>>70414444
>dem quads
i knew all along desu
>>70414501
hunger for pies more like
>>70414510
she's been loyal to them all though
>"And the mystery knight should win the tourney, defeating every challenger, and name the wolf maid the queen of love and beauty.”
>“She was,” said Meera, “but that’s a sadder story.”
>>70414501
Why can't he have a hunger for learning how to fight or lead?
>>70414510
She has been loyal. For Renly she killed Stannis. For Cat she tried to help Sansa and Arya. She even helped Jaime for a bit inadvertently. It's not Brienne's fault that everyone keeps dying.
>>70414539
>NK neither our guy nor reddit
>an outsider
truly beautiful
>>70414501
>>70414561
The only thing Sam has a hunger for is bread.
>>70413470
underrated post
>>70414444
Stannis has always been Reddit, he's always been 4chan, he's always been the bookfags.
Stannis eclipses all barriers.
>>70414444
I always expected he was reddit.
>>70414559
Because he's fat and beta, I suspect his mother's influence also poisoned his mind. He mentions how his mother let him sew and read with her a lot. Some men aren't alpha, they're beta. Or they're nerds. It doesn't mean he's useless and should die.
Now say Sam was a fat idiot like Rast? Then I'd agree wholeheartedly, kill his worthless fat ass. But Sam is actually intelligent and far from worthless seeing as he can read and write.
>>70413151
She has a bigger adam's apple than he does.
>>70413992
>>70414589
Stannis was always liked by a portion of book readers and disliked by a portion of roughly equal size, but the cult that sprung up around him in recent years was a product of showfaggery.
>>70414415
But he agreed to keep Gilly at Horn Hill and raise her child......
>bolton bastard fucktoy
>queen in the north
>>70414540
Why didn't Brienne kill Mel as soon as she found out about the Red Woman? Davos and Stannis' other men do not seem very likely to squeeze demons their out or their vaginas who kill brothers.
>>70414623
Is this from a leak? Is she exploring the mines of Valyria?
>>70414617
That's what happens when you're a skeleton.
>>70414589
So he's a whore?
Some back alley Salley spreading his cheeks wide for anyone that comes along?
For shame
>>70414436
Even if he does escape, Littlefinger will kill him
Littlefinger needs Sansa to inherit Winterfell and Riverrun, can't have that with Edmure and Blackfish still breathing
>>70414664
Yeah kind of actually.
>>70414415
He doesn't know Sam is a cuck though. He should have been glad his fat loser son reproduced at all, even if it was with a wildling.
>>70414640
She'll be a Stark bastard fucktoy now.
Safe in Jon's halls, warming his bed.
So Bran had literally no reaction to
>Hodor dying
>Summer dying
>Undead Benjen reappearing
>Finding out he can time travel
happy oona day
>>70414628
Honestly, it's a product of the fact that by ADWD all the other protagonists have either died or gotten unlikeable. Stannis is also generally viewed through Davos' perspective, who adores him
>>70414646
It was at Stannis' behest, she killed Stannis, job done no need to kill his whole army.
>>70414640
>queen in the north
o i am laffin
>>70414682
I can't wait for Edmure to die in a clumsy and whimsical yet dramatic fashion.
>>70414415
I think he is /was pretty based
>tfw I tell people this and they either think I'm joking or get upset
>>70414646
Maybe she assumed Melly did it under orders?
Stop looking for logic in this show, it'll do you no good.
>>70414701
I'm still mad they're just killing off Direwolves left and right because muh budget
>>70414631
point of the post I think was not that he didn't agree to it but that he doesn't like doing it.
>>70414701
He also had no reaction to Jojen dying.
The show completely destroyed his character in that he has no fucking character. At least Stannis, Jaime and Robb did something.
>>70412920
i ship them so hard
New D&E story when?
>>70414755
they could have at least told us they went to live on a farm.
>>70414755
They don't even matter in the show, they're just eye candy anyway.
>>70414782
Yeah, nobody but Bran is a warg on the show.
>>70414656
SHHHH Season 7 spoiler dude!
>>70414703
But Dance is when Theon, Davos and Barristan got to shine. You could say they aren't protagonists but then, the same argument could be made of Stannis.
>>70413470
You're not wrong.
/got/ offical MILF picks
> got tier
Lady Crane
Lady Tarly
Melisandre
> Pretty good tier
Lady Katelyn
Kinvara
Lady Olena
> Shit tier
Cersei
Dany
Talisa
>>70414778
this image makes me want to play DS3 really badly
>>70414845
>Kinvara
Not exactly a milf. Neither is Talisa, though I do agree she is shit.
Also Cersei should be higher.
>>70414778
That would just be fucking insuting if George never finishes the series, but finds time to publish another half dozen dunk and eggs
>>70414733
He actually is based.
I understand his view, though not his practices. Threatening to kinslay and chaining his kid to shit is too out there.
But not wanting a weak coward like Season 1 Sam was as your heir makes sense.
Weak Lords can completely fuck a House up. Lannisters would've been fucked if Tywin hadn't taken the reins.
Sam had it in him to be just like Tytos, he would've been the end of House Tarly.
>>70414880
before the hair cut I agree, after the haircut she just looks like your regular bull dyke
>>70414759
Of course he didn't fucking like it
>"hey dad, I went off to the Wall, knocked up a Wildling, and I don't know what to do with her and the kid. Mind if you raise the boy and let her stay at Horn Hill while I go become a maester down the road?"
I'd be fucking livid if my child had a kid and then expected me to raise the him and let the girl/guy live with me too
>>70414444
link
>>70414908
>Lannisters would've been fucked if Tywin hadn't taken the reins
Except he fucked up badly raising his children and now it's all but confirmed his House will only continue through Tyrion if at all
>>70414908
Sam may have been a coward for certain things, but was he really weak? The important thing here is that he is actually quite intelligent, and that counts for something. The Lannisters are ruined because Cersei is stupid and Tywin didn't appreciate Tyrion's intelligence. Sam would have been a shit fighter, true, but he could have been a good lord.
>>70414832
Did Barristan really shine? Did he?
>>70414690
If anything it would be Sansa's halls. Jesus Jonsa fag at least get the basics right.
Alfie Allen is an amazing actor.
>>70415029
>hasn't won any oscar
>>70414999
He could have been. Everyone underestimates how smart Sam is. Randyl just wanted him to be alpha, didn't focus enough on the strengths he had much like Tywin overlooking Tyrion's strengths.
Tywin did realize Cersei was a dumb cunt tho and at least told her so to her face. And to be fair he did allow Tyrion to be hand for a while, and then made him master of coin. Really I can't see anything Tywin did that was wrong. Jamie should have just let Tyrion die.
>>70415020
Well, his chapters were great.
But he is getting fucked over, right when he finally gets to a position of prominence, true. Still, it could happen to anyone.
>>70415029
Are they the sort of things you start saying after you've had your dick cut off?
>>70414980
Eh, bad in raising kid doesn't meant that he didn't raise his House pretty high, he couldn't have expected Varys to help get Tyrion out and then for Tyrion to kill him. Not all his fault.
>>70414999
Rewatch season 1 and realize this is the Sam that Randyll had to deal with and expected to be his heir.
He's a weak fucking coward
>>70414778
Glad to see I'm not the only one obsessed with that image.
that baratheon armor though.
I'm rock hard just looking at it
>>70414924
no argument from me
Just think about Lyanna Stark, who seemed to be friends with Willis (because I refuse to call him Hodor from now on), coming back home after riding her horse all morning. When she comes back, she finds out that her friend can only say one word: “Hodor”
Just imagine Lyanna trying to communicate with him and failing, and then, hearing the rest of the idiotic lords making fun of him, calling him by the only word he can say, casting him aside, making him do stupid errands because the kid “went mad one day” and started shouting “Hold the door”.
Imagine that Robert Baratheon, was the one that made most jokes … The worst jokes. Imagine Lyanna comforting Willis in Harrenhall after Robert had said something that was just too much. Imagine Rhaegar Targaryen (who Barristan Selmy said was good and kind, and cared about orphans and poor peasants), walking towards them and making Willis laugh.
Imagine Lyanna asking for Willis’ help in order to escape with Rhaegar, and Willis never sees her again. Some time later, Willis hears that his friend died, and Ned Stark comes back with Jon. Jon grows up, and everybody says just how much he looks like Ned. But Willis doesn’t think so … Willis thinks that Jon looks more like his friend, and that prince that once helped him. And he can’t say anything … Because as much as Willis tries, Jon will only hear “Hodor”
>>70415026
Leaks confirm Jon gets made King in the North and Sansa supports it.
Winterfell will be his and they will be his halls
>>70414778
why isn't robert holding his warhammer?
>>70415056
Like I said, he can't fight for shit. But in the position of being a lord, intelligence and good character count for a lot.
>>70415052
He fucked up by letting Cersei run rampant for years though. He also made Tyrion hate him (which brought about his own downfall).
>>70415123
>robert
Fuck off.
>>70415072
I'm gonna cry.
>>70414924
Of course you'd be livid, because you're not a fucking high lord of westeros with a castle the size of a small city, and 2 billion servants.
>>70415072
cringe exceeding tolerable levels
>>70415133
>intelligence and good character count for a lot.
And intelligent and good charactered weakling and coward who can't fight, can't ride a horse, knows shit about leading men and knows shit about survival commands no respect.
He'd bow out to anyone as soon as they get angry or raise their voice enough.
Rewatch season 1 Sam m8.
>>70415133
Cersei's huge mistake came after his death, though. I doubt Tywin would have allowed her to arm the faith if he was alive. If anything Tywin was just outmaneuvered by Littlefinger. As for Tyrion, if Jaime didn't let him out he would have finally been killed. I guess the real fatal mistake he made was not having Tyrion murdered years ago.
I mean seriously, how hard could it be? Hire an assassin like the one who tried to kill Bran and fucking ice the Imp. I find it hard to believe someone as rich and powerful as Tywin had trouble killing Tyrion. Probably more likely that he had doubts doing so, because he was "his son". Those doubts killed him in the end.
>>70414999
> Sam may have been a coward for certain things, but was he really weak?
Yes. Weak as in not having the ability to assert oneself. Look at the world he lives in. People are right, he would have tanked House Tarly, at least how he was when he first got sent to the wall, not necessarily because he was too stupid, but he wouldn't have had the confidence to assert his smarts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvUGkw8Syj4
was Robb right or wrong?
>>70415072
yeah so what people get maimed burned killed and slain like dogs by the dozens every hour on this show.
>>70414924
You seem to assume Randyll would be raising the little bastard himself. Really, the kid would probably be raised as a servant and he'd never see it.
Also Sam didn't spill the beans about her being a wildling, the retarded product of incest did it.
>>70415204
Wrong and that was the most fatal mistake he made. You know you're making a mistake when fucking Edmure of all people are pleading with you to reconsider. Lost half of his men, had to ask Frey for help. Stupid fucking decision.
>>70415204
Morally right, but strategically wrong. He needed the Karstarks to win the war, and he lost thousands of men through this action. He should have learned to be more pragmatic instead of like his father, who also died due to his honor.
>>70415204
Wrong of course. Karstark wasn't a nobody. Considering Robb's entire war is being fought because his family's liege lord kill his father, why would the Karstarks behave differently when it happens to their father?
>>70415239
I don't even think he was morally right. If you're going to be that strict with the rules, you have to be consistent. Cat should have been punished far more severely for setting Jaime free, then at least Robb's applying the same standards to everyone.
>>70415204
right in terms oh honour and justice
wrong in terms of any military strategy
>>70415056
It's Tywin's fault completely for letting shady characters like Varys and Littlefinger stick around
Varys played Tyrion and Tywin like a fiddle and Tywin died because of it, and Littlefingers manipulation of his family members should have raised some flags long ago, but they were all too stupid to do anything about it
Tywin was shit at raising his children, Joffrey should have been his ward long ago, he should have had a much tighter leash on Cersei, and he should have pressed Robert harder to release Jaime from the Kingsguard, but he didn't because he was an overrated dumbass that was clearly out of his prime
>>70415191
Cersei being a shit mother to Joffrey was also a fuck up. He knew she was stupid, he should have taken a stronger guiding hand with the future king.
But even ignoring that, he should have stepped in when the war was first starting and never let Ned get killed or at least handle that situation better (though again, this goes back to raising Cersei to be stupid and then not helping out with his grandson).
And Tyrion would have been a good asset to the Lannister house, instead of killing him he should have used him. Jaime made himself useless years ago, what the fuck else was he going to do?
A lot of this also goes back to his own stubborn (and hypocritical) refusal to get married again and produce more heirs too. If he had, Tyrion wouldn't have mattered so much.
>>70415318
Tywin's supposed to be psychic and know that Varys would turn traitor, get Tyrion out and allow Tyrion enough free rein to go and kill Tywin which would fuck shit up for Varys too?
No m8
>>70415302
Well "honor" by westerosi standards is still quite different to our modern views on morality.
Robb followed that code of honor very well, but it still got him killed like his dad, since being honorable means you get fucked by people with less scruples
>>70415302
Morally speaking no, Karstark killed innocent children basically, that should have been punished. Cat fucked up big time but at least she didn't kill anyone (that could have been treason though).
>>70415318
I agree on Littlefinger and Varys. They were obviously shady and should have been removed. Those two managed to outsmart Tywin and pretty much everyone else.
>>70413470
Truth
>>70415318
This is correct.
>>70415354
Varys is one thing but a lot of people were suspicious of him.
I think LF is the bigger problem that Tywin overlooked, and he's the one that really got the ball rolling with the Lannister downfall.
Hey guys, pls no spamerino in the threaderino. Thanks
> you people actually having real discussions in a /got/ thread
well done lads
>>70415400
>I think LF is the bigger problem that Tywin overlooked
Tywin's not psychic, he can't be in all places at the same time or be running Casterly Rock, King's Landing and Westeros and do every fucking thing about every fucking person
>>70415400
But littlefinger goes out of his way to seem unassuming and non-threatening.
>>70415427
Quite frankly I'm surprised at the quality of this thread in the past 20 minutes or so.
>>70415453
Not to mention LF is actually really clever and helpful. Who brokered the alliance with the Tyrells right when Renly fell? He was always aiding Tywin and appeared useful so maybe you can't really blame him for being outmaneuvered. CIA is just that tricky.
>>70415453
He doesn't need to be at Casterly Rock all the goddamn time, someone else could have been running it. His important work was in KL with the people who do matter, his heirs. For someone who supposedly cared about legacy he really ruined his.
>>70415477
A lot of people knew he was a scheming though. And had someone been more careful with records they would have known he was up to something with money too.
>>70415453
I think Tywin was broken the minute his wife died, he just got more and more miserable.
>play as Balon
>don't be a retard like in the show
>take Robb up on his offer and invade the Westerlands
>direct land invasion of Casterly Rock
>Lannisters attack
>Balon gets his head smashed by the Mountain and Victarion inherits
>We win the battle anyway
>The Mountain is now our prisoner
What should I do with this faggot?
>>70415239
Fuck being pragmatic, just show some mercy and understanding.
Rickard Karstark lost all three of his sons fighting for Robb Stark. Two of them died at the Whispering Wood in his personal defense and the other was taken captive at the Green Fork and later at Duskendale. That's pretty much the whole future of his house hanging in the balance.
All of this triggered when Catelyn let the North's most valuable prisoner go free.
Robb should have just put Rickard on indefinite House arrest.
>>70415515
They all know he schemes, but never the extent of it.
They think he's just some petty prankster or some shit, because he cultivates that image.
Also he made himself essential.
And it would make sense that competent and intelligent people are also ambitious.
Also there's the whole thing with everyone underestimating him because he's "just a step above a hedge knight"
>>70415204
>recycling the greyjoy theme for this scene
disgusting
>>70415557
>Robb should have just put Rickard on indefinite House arrest.
This would have been the best solution.
The problem is that Robb ended up an honorable autist like Ned.
Morally speaking though, that doesn't excuse what Karstark did. He fucked up too and it was stupid of him not to expect punishment for that.
>>70415553
whats ths game
>>70415553
name of the game?
>>70415453
Yeah he sat in the fucking Rock for years while Littlefinger and Varys ran around chipping away at the power of the Baratheons and Lannisters while he twiddled his thumbs
Tyrion should have told Tywin asap that Littlefinger was the one that accused him of murder and got him arrested and executed after they securely held Kings Landing with the Tyrells
Tywin should have known from Pycelle that Varys almost foiled his invasion of Kings Landing in Roberts Rebellion, but the shadiest motherfucker in Aerys small council is kept around because he's good at his job
Tywin and his family were garbage after he resigned as hand the first time
>>70415515
>He doesn't need to be at Casterly Rock all the goddamn time
Yeah he just needs to be there at your convenience so you can otherwise blame for when shit happens.
He has too much on his plate to be taking care of every fucking thing going on in everyone's lives in King's Landing and Casterly Rock.
>>70415595
>>70415600
>ck2
crusader kings with the got mod
>>70415600
>>70415595
It's a mod of Crusader Kings II
Friendly Reminder: Everything is Bran's fault and he's awful. He even drove the mad king crazy I bet.
>>70415553
Make him your court jester.
>>70415557
It was a lose-lose in my opinion.
On the one hand, if he beheads Karstark, his men leave, and hold a grudge.
On the other, if he doesn't, the other lords think of him as a weakling.
But then again, he pretty much mirrored his (dumbass) father. He died because of "honor"
>>70415595
>>70415600
Crusader Kings 2. Great mod for it. I played as Robb and married Frey's daughter. Won the war against the Lannisters, beheaded Joffrey and Cersei with Ice which I got back, set Tommen, Myrcaella and Jamie free because I like them and gave the Iron Throne to Stannis the Mannis.
>>70415553
Trial by combat. Nominate people you don't like as champions
>>70415633
>Tyrion should have told Tywin asap that Littlefinger was the one that accused him of murder and got him arrested and executed after they securely held Kings Landing with the Tyrells
Why was this never, ever brought up? Did they forget that happened? You'd really think Tyrion would probably have Littlefinger fucking killed for that entire debacle.
>>70415553
Give him to the sea
>>70415684
Sounds like you were playing the prince who was promised, who gave the throne to AA reborn.
Good on you!
>>70415699
nominate the hound
>>70415670
Bran did literally nothing wrong and he will be the savior and rebuilder of Westeros (a Bran the Builder, if you will).
>>70415633
>he twiddled his thumbs by taking care of the Westerlands he was in charge of
Top kek
>Tyrion should have told Tywin asap that Littlefinger was the one that accused him of murder and got him arrested and executed after they securely held Kings Landing with the Tyrells
You'll blame Tywin for Tyrion choosing not to say anything?
>Tywin should have known from Pycelle that Varys almost foiled his invasion of Kings Landing in Roberts Rebellion, but the shadiest motherfucker in Aerys small council is kept around because he's good at his job
and blame him for things we don't even know Pycelle told him? Or blame him for keeping Varys around after being loyal instead of a turncloak?
>>70415706
In the show it looks retarded because "le funny smart imp man"
In the books, Tyrion is much more insecure, and while he does like playing the game of thrones, he's still not perfectly safe. I think he didn't make a proper move against LF because he was scared shit would go wrong due to extensive spy networks.
>>70415676
I think imprisoning Rickard and doing the same with his mother (hell, send her to Karhold to live under house arrest there) would have saved face.
>>70415749
>Bran orchestrated everything whether accidental or purpose.
I wonder if the Night King's touch will corrupt his powers too.. Maybe he was mid conversation but the touch made him say some messed up stuff that drove the king mad...
>>70415706
Tyrion couldn't really gain control of Kings Landing when he was hand as the Lannister troops weren't there to help him
The moment the Tyrells came into the picture though, Tyrion had no excuse not telling Tywin what happened, but since Tyrion assumed Tywin was so retarded that he wouldn't believe him, he didn't bother
>>70415722
Yea, then poor Jon Snow got killed by Thorne in personal combat, so I hatched an assassination plot against him which succeeded, then King Stannis declared war on Winter and I led a huge fucking army North of the Wall, huge attrition but we were fighting doomstacks of Others alongside the Greyjoys, Baratheons, Martels, even the Lannister remnants and useless Robin Aryen.
Who is the biggest living normy in the show
>>70415072
It made me sooooo sad desu senpai ooohhhhuhuhu ;_;
>>70415834
Probably Sam. He's pretty big.
What do we say to the god of death motherfuckers?ayy lmao
>>70415834
chad and stacy tarly
>>70415800
Rickard still did a treasonous thing.
Defied a direct order from his king.
I mean it wasn't all honor and shit, the Lannister boys were hostages to be ransomed, and it makes his negotiating position weaker because, once word gets out that Starks kill their prisoners, why would they ever agree to an exchange?
Image plays a huge part.
I mean in hindsight, it was a bad choice, but he still had to prove himself, and he couldn't allow himself to look weak.
>>70415873
>Everyone expecting the Hound
>It's fucking Syrio out of no where
I know it won't happen, but I would KEK so hard if it did.
tfw no game of thrones porn parody of every single episode.
>no Samwellhung Tarly
>no all female Tarlesbians that use dragon dildos
>no Johnson Snow
>no Blackdick the Bold
>>70415650
>>70415665
>>70415684
thanks guys
>>70415873
> no frakking way
>>70415873
I'd actually enjoy that more than Stannis or the Hound.
>>70413067
>>70413122
Good idea. Lets post about Varys.
>>70415954
I want all three
If syrio comes back I swear to God i will diaper up and watch cartoons with any of the lot of you
>>70415955
Alright, you got me.
So what do you think his end game is?
Is he a Targ? A Blackfyre? (Maybe a descendant of Aerion)
What does he plan to do with Illyrio?
>>70415427
Come on guys. Post pic of your face and let /got/ tell you which house you're from!
>>70415975
All three of them stacked on top of each other, I one giant suit of armor. The Hound is the strongest, so he's the feet so he can support everyone. Syrio is the better swordsman, so he's the chest. Stannis is the head, because he's the face man.
“There’s much I don’t understand,” Davos admitted. “I have never pretended elsewise. I know the seas and rivers, the shapes of the coasts, where the rocks and shoals lie. I know hidden coves where a boat can land unseen. And I know that a king protects his people, or he is no king at all.”
Stannis’s face darkened. “Do you mock me to my face? Must I learn a king’s duty from an onion smuggler?”
Davos knelt. “If I have offended, take my head. I’ll die as I lived, your loyal man. But hear me first. Hear me for the sake of the onions I brought you, and the fingers you took.”
Stannis slid Lightbringer from its scabbard. Its glow filled the chamber. “Say what you will, but say it quickly.” The muscles in the king’s neck stood out like cords.
Davos fumbled inside his cloak and drew out the crinkled sheet of parchment. It seemed a thin and flimsy thing, yet it was all the shield he had. “A King’s Hand should be able to read and write. Maester Pylos has been teaching me.” He smoothed the letter flat upon his knee and began to read by the light of the magic sword.
