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>>70326115
wHAT IS IT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY?

iT WAS FUCKING TERRIBLE, THE WHOLE TIME.
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you are dumb? aha
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>>70326158
It was pretty good desu.
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>>70326115
The people that I know who hated it did so because of the whole Mandarin twist.
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I agree with OP you guys treat this movie very harshly. In fact Trevor in a Marvel One Shot even gets kidnapped by the real Mandarin's thugs. Meaning in the future we might get a real Mandarin for Iron Man or the Avengers to fight.
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I'm mad they keep fucking nerfing tony.

In Ultron he beats the motherfucking hulk in a 1v1

HOW THE FUCK CAN HE NOT BEAT CAPS ASS IN CIVIL WAR?
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>>70326115
I think it's down to two main reasons, with a few smaller points.

One being that the tone is very different to the first two. The style as well. This feels like a buddy cop movie. Die hard meets lethal weapon, with a veneer of iron man.

The other is the disney-factor. Tony Stark meets whacky cable guy, goofy henchmen and a smart but troubled kid on his journey!

Don't get me wrong, I loved this movie - but it's flawed.

You got things like Extremis being written out of Pepper, his arc reactor going bye bye and all his suits blowing up - and the audience was told, not shown why: it didn't hit home well. Nobody connected all the dots with Tony finally moving forward. It was too vague for a lot of audiences to digest.
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>>70326259
He was wearing a bigger suit and had to constantly mail order new pieces from Amazon with drones.

Hulk was tearing his double suit up like it was nothing.
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>>70326115
I thought Iron Man 2 was a lot worse than 3. Maii Burddd lol
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>>70326115
Anyone who claims to hate this movie is just shitposting.
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I don't even know how anyone could contest this one against the first two.
IM1- Origin story that doesn't get fun until he gets home, makes the suit, then fights the lamest final boss villain.
IM2- Holy shit, hot garbage. This is still a blight on Marvel's record for another wasted villain, and the plot that revolves solely around getting us used to Avengers coming. Only worth it for the IM and War Machine team up briefly.

Then we have IM3- Shane Black gives it the tone of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, gives Tony some depth as to his God Complex. He develops PTSD after Avengers because even his brain can't handle how fucking wacky the universe is.
He's got a central villain that is actually intelligent. Any "muh mandurin" bullshit aside, fuck the Mandarin, no one read iron man comics, he was a D level superhero before RDJ made him popular. No one really cares, they just don't like being tricked. But fuck em.
The movie forces him to lose the suit and rely on his actual super-power: inventing shit on the fly and being clever.
Air Force One scene is great. Still holds up.
Final climax fight is a little nuts, but it's not bad by any means.

Somehow this movie gets shit because of faggots who whine about a character they didn't really know about anyways. And because it's a lot more sarcastic and funny than the other entries. Fuck Favreau, Shane Black did the best he could with this and it paid off-- but marvel cucks act like somehting they care about was tampered with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_nUSpKEUYM
>tfw Marvel will never make movies with Paramount and Universal again
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If you enjoyed Iron Man comics then IM3 was the worst capeshit flick ever made

Maybe it was ok for normies like you
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>>70326115
>ima destroy all the iron man suits just cuz
>ima build like 500 more for avengers 2
>we are going to spend more time focusing on the different suits instead of the villain because they sell more merchandise
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>>70327102
>ima destroy all the iron man suits just cuz
>ima build like 500 more for avengers 2
There is a great difference between suits and drones.
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>>70326991
I believe this gentleman is correct on all points
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It's purely because of the Mandarin twist. Mandarin would never work in live action and the twist was a funny, clever, and unexpected way of getting around that. Butthurt autists hated it because of the changes from MUH COMICS. The film had it's issues, but the action and pacing were the best of the series by far. Definitely the strongest IM.
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>>70326991
Agreed, but Faveru is awesome.
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>>70326991
I like the F1 scene in IM2, it was pretty good. But I still don't know why Tony hasn't busted out that "GET DOWN SWEEPING LASER BEAM ATTACK" shit he did at the end of that movie. You would think that would have been prudent vs. all the Ultron minions in Avengers 2.

Whatever, it's capeshit.
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>>70326115

>>70326115


Its shit. Literally trash.

For example the new Xmen film has great moments and some interesting things, but falls flat.

BvS is an aquired taste. If you dont like dark/brooding themes, it wont appeal to you, but it has an appeal for people who like darker capeshit.

Avengers is quip deluxe, but its genuinely an entertaining blockbuster with some memorable quip-quotes.

As to Iron man 3....

Its literally one of the worst things Ive ever seen in my entire life. The momen Pots steps out of the fire and kicks the bad guys ass...

Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>70327463
>You would think that would have been prudent vs. all the Ultron minions in Avengers 2.
There were civilians here.
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Was genuinely shocked when I found out
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>>70327463

Senpai, he basically never uses that missile that can blow up a fucking tank from the first one.
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I'd rather him be passed out them making this retarded face
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>>70326241
That was just to shut the comic fags up.
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>>70327969
What gets me is people saying it isn't "fun"

I think it's comfy as fuck.
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>>70327969
This so much. Like I understand the dialogue not being great in some scenes (no movie is perfect) but other than that almost all the complaints I genuinely don't get. It's better than 90% of other capeshit yet it gets absurd amounts of hate.
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>>70326991
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>>70327152
>samefagging this hard

IM3 isn't bad, but you're insane if you think it's better than the first.
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>>70328028
This is to show that he doesn't need someone to wake him up.
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>>70328098
Yeah I agree, one of the most fun/exhilarating/exciting blockbusters I've seen, definitely from all the superhero movies I've seen.
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>>70328098
I fucking hate the word fun in criticisms... It's so damn subjective that it renders the statement useless. Like I can say one sport is fun and another boring whereas someone else could say the exact opposite.
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>>70328118
Guess again on both statements, faggot
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>>70326991
>Fuck Favreau

Yea, fuck the person who created the monster that is the MCU today.
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>>70328251
i don't know if you are being sarcastic or not.
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>>70328251
Without Favreau there would literally be no MCU. Yes, Feige hired him, but because he was the only one who wanted to do it. So yea, Favreau gets the honor. Not Feige.
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>>70328098
I most definitely don't find it "fun", yet I like it a lot. Not every movie ever has to be Avengers-tier quipfest. Avengers is "fun", and I like it as well.
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>>70328333 was for >>70328290
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>>70328205
Why /tv/ is pretending this is good now?
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>>70328158
There is very, very little good about this one. It deserves all the shit that gets thrown at it. What kind of Doom-whatever doesn't even have Hell and demons?
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>>70328164
>Expecting this to be any substantial evidence
Are you new?
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>>70326302
>This feels like a buddy cop movie

You need two people for a buddy cop movie you tard.
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>>70326115
It's a disaster in a matter of plot and characters from the beginning to the end

>Weak main villain
>Mandarin was a fake (the most iconic antagonist in the fucking series was completely ruined)
>Pepper being a mutant late in the movie
>Tony Stark destroys the whole arsenal in the end for no convincing reason
>Some annoying little brat was a key character
>The "cure" for Iron Man in the post-credits scene
>War Machine as Iron Patriot
>Again, the Mandarin

I wanna forget this movie happened. It's the worst modern Marvel product so far, even surpassing the first Thor.
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>>70327463
I rewatched the second one a bit ago and something caught my attention. Bad guy goes out on the racetrack dressed as a member of the pit crew to kill Tony, only Tony wasn't advertised as being in the race. They make it a plot point that Tony goes all wacky and decides to drive the car himself. how the fuck did Mickey Rourke know to be out on that track in time to attack Tony? Shits just too convenient.
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>>70328374
Fuck off I never want to speak to you again
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>>70326991
IM3 was terrible in every regard There wasn't even a lot of iron man in it
IM1 is so much better You have to be autism to think otherwise
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>>70329185
iron man 3 is good. a lot better than 2 which is unwatchable imo. I watched it home in my comfy chair on pretty strong painkillers though
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>>70328374
what is doom 3?
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>>70329771
Nigga, that had hell all over it.
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>>70329771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XutmfTGfRDE
Durrr
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>>70328816
>how the fuck did Mickey Rourke know to be out on that track in time to attack Tony?
Because they announced it on the tv, and he was on the track for a while attacking any car that got near him until Tony showed up.
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>>70330103
How the fuck did he know Tony was going to get in the car and not watch the race from his comfy skybox? He had this shit planned out to attack him on the road, what with the pit crew outfit and all. He could have easily just been a busboy or bellhop or some shit and then seen Tony was out on the track and ran there to attack instead.
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pure kino
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>>70330283
He wanted to bait Tony into coming out and fighting him so he can prove that "Gods can bleed" or something like that. That's why he takes his time slicing up Tony's car and stuff, he's waiting for him to get into his armour so he can prove that he isn't indestructible when in the suit.
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>>70330452
Lets say Tony said fuck it and was too busy fucking some slutty journalist and your boy was outside smashing cars until the actual cops just fucking shot him.


Plot convince is what I'm getting at.
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>>70326991

> the part where iron mans waifu dies and cries out "toni" "toni"
>fucking up the villain that badly
>enemies are shooting lava out their mouths
>president in an iron man suit
>kid gets verizon fios at the end
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>>70326402
>mail order new pieces from Amazon
kek
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>>70326115
I'm with you anon, I really liked IM3.
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>>70326991
>>70327152
>not liking vanko
Shame they cut his role down so much.
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>>70326115
The kid ruined the whole flick for me.
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>>70328513
long time since I saw it but I remember rhodes being a big part of the end.
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>>70326259
His newer suits are built for portability rather than durability. In the first two movies he needs complex machinery to put his suit on or take it off; now he can put it on as easily as clothes.
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>>70326219
I have no attachment to Mandarin since I don't read the comics, but a firebreathing Guy Pearce was fucking awful replacement villain.
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I don't understand, they were well made and fun.

Is it because of a Jewish director? How petty.
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>>70328620
check out this bait.
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>>70327185
This.
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>>70327969
Fuck no, totally deserved.
What a goddamn clusterfuck.
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>>70328513
Remember how he and Rhody were briefing each other in that restaurant/bar?

Remember how Rhody was in contact with Stark while In the Middle East?

Remember how Rhody gave Tony his password to AIM's networks?

Remember how they both interrogated Trevor, escaped the compound, then while Rhodey drove the getaway boat, Tony was able to rescue the airforce one staff?

You know that final act where Rhody helps Tony infiltrate the shipyard, takes on a few extremis soldiers and rescues the president of the United States?

No?
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>>70333807
Then you're an idiot.
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>>70326115
>watching Iron Man 3
>there's a glorious Osama-tier version of the Mandarin
>oh wait, no, he's a fake
>the real villain is yet another evil corporate executive just like the previous two Iron Man movies
They just overdid it on that plot device.
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>>70327185
this 2bh fäm
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>>70327185
You the man.
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>>70326259
The suit was damaged in a believable way. I'm honestly surprised they had him use all his signature moves and showed how they weren't working instead of ignoring them.
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>>70328652
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>>70328164
>>70328118

Oh man. >>70328395, just don't post anymore. There's no saving face from that one.
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I fucking hate when people compare this to Transformers.
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>>70328111
I like it but the hate is deserved, it's not very good at all.
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>>70333956
Casino Royale barely has any hate. Skyfall does have hate.
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>>70334507
Only mouthbreathing retards who can only take things at face value say that.
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I agree OP only faggot comic lovers and bandwagon plebs hate this movie.
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>>70334537
I don't really understand why.

People say "the plot is weak", but it's a James Bond movie.
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>>70326219
I couldn't care less about Mandarin or the twist. The movie was just shit.
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People like it more now, but when it released there was some hate and there still is some. It's more underrated than undeserved hate.
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>>70334801
elaborate
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>>70334738
I really love Skyfall, but it doesn't feel like a James Bond movie.
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>>70334801
This. Fuck the comic shit, it was a bad movie. Especially that soundtrack. How do you just shit on the sounds the previous movies have established?
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>>70334815
Ken Wantanabe(sp?) was pretty fucking fantastic in it. Cruise was typical cruise, people love to hate him.
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>>70326115
It's one of the few movies where I don't understand how anyone could like it. Literally everything about it was awful, from the cringe worthy "humor" to the extremely unremarkable characters. The only memorable character in the movie was a massive waste of a cool idea.
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>>70327185
Yes, the shitty kid, awful humor, and annoying faggot protagonist had nothing to do with it.
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It was just bad, in general. It didn't feel like an Iron Man film. But my biggest gripe was how his armor was apparently made of tissue paper. They made him so fucking weak.
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>>70334936
Why does have to feel like one? Franchises should try to change it up otherwise they become stale and prone to rehashes.

I loved how different it felt.
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>>70326115
it was documented that they were literally writing the script while they were filming it, it was destined to fail
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tried re-watching it recently.

couldnt even make it through the first act.
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>>70326115
>MARVEL MOVIES ARE TOO FORMULAIC
>THIS MARVEL MOVIE ISN'T FOLLOWING THE FORMULA 1:1 IT'S SHIT
I dunno
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>>70334507
THIS
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>>70335434
I know why.

Marvel Movies + Popularity + Good reviews = WORST MOVIE EVER BvS IS THE TRUE KINO WE DESERVE!!
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>>70334197
2009 was a passable adaptation to introduce the series to a larger audience, but Into Darkness is shit from start to finish.
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>>70326115
D R O P P E D
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>>70335395
>fail
>billion dollars
>did well critically
>fail

Fucken pleb.
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>>70326115
>muh pacemakers
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>>70334507
Yeah, Transformers wasn't that bad.
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>>70335923
2/10
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>>70329355
They get worse as they go on. It goes like this 1>2>3
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>>70334815
People hate this movie? This movie is fucking GOAT. Probably because Cruise and "lol scientology is stupid XD," as if that has anything to do with his acting ability or the movies he stars in.
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I understand the hate but out of all the prequel films, it has the best cinematography. Kamino, Geonosis and Courscant are just breathtaking from a visual standpoint. No one had really made anything look like that. It also showed Lucas's attention to detail like the window being repaired after the assassin attack.

I honestly think people hate this movie not because of the dialogue but it's too much of a homage to sci-fi pulp. Especially when they arrive on Genosis and it turns into Flash Gordon meets old gladiator movies.
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>>70336540
I don't like it very much but here, have a high res poster.
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