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Sir Piggy would have never had the stones to really steal his dad's sword. Let's be real
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If you want consistent characterization are sensible storylines then watch a different show.
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>>70271162

that's Sam the Slayer, you diseased horsecock. How many Others -you- killed eh?

only thing you kill is flies around your shitty arse.
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>>70271162
He must have at least 18 stones.
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>>70271230
Dolorus Ed?
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>>70271162

He was probably rocking back and forth with anxiety and regret as he travelled to Oldtown. He probably chucked it out of the carriage onto the ground right after leaving Horn Hill's lands.
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>>70271162
He's literally the most brave guy in Westros. He kiled a white walker, stole a wildling girl. He's raising another man's stone as if it were his own. That takes balls.
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>>70271162
>your son is a fat, useless fuck
>send him to night's watch to make a name for himself as it's the only way he'll have a future
>he ends up fucking some wildling whore and bring a bastard to your house
>expects me to take care of them and feed them while he's off doing fucking nothing
And Randyll was in the wrong how?
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>>70271269

Who's askin'?
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>>70271359
Exactly he not! Then the fat fuck makes off with your family heirloom. What a sorry cunt
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>>70271359
>your son is a fat, useless fuck

I just realized he's a Faramir who never grew out of his wizard phase.
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>>70271325
doing god's work anon
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>>70271162
a piggy in love is truly a different piggy
he's went from peppa pig to Mrs. piggy
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>Steal Sword
>Father now has to personally come to the north to personally take the sword himself to avoid humiliation
>Father sees the Wights and White Walkers
>Father and his army is on your side now
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Oink for some bread little piggy
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>>70271574
Almost a good theory but he isn't going back to the wall is he?
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>coward in the presence of his dad

>shit talks him when he's sleeping, steals his stuff

makes perfect sense actually, total craven move.
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>>70271692
if he's not going back then he could only go to the one place he told everyone about
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>>70271574
*teleports from horn hill to the wall*

*teleports from the wall to horn hill*

*teleports from horn hill to the wall with an army*
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>>70271162
i wish this character would do something like actually become a maester or learn some spells or some shit. He just trudges around and mopes
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>>70271743
he's not a Sand Snake
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>>70271162
I don't get it though. His dad was being a cunt, but he got LITERALLY everything he wanted. He didn't even have to argue with him or anything. He was just like, "your fat and a failure and your girlfriends is a whore, but yeah, she can totally stay here and we'll even raise your wife's son." What the fuck was he hoping to accomplish by stealing the sword and leaving? None of this makes any damn sense.
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>>70271815
>littlefinger is a snek
it all makes sense now
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>>70271819
Pride
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>>70271819
Meme steel kills walkers m8.
And if that other theory about him trying to goad Randyll into realizing the walkers are back then shiieett
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>>70271162
>lives in a frozen wasteland with almost no food for years
>DON'T LOSE A SINGLE POUNDS
fucking d&d
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>>70271162
>he can bloody well try
>first scene next episode is Dickon and Randall kicking Sam on the ground screaming "I yield! No more!"
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>>70271930
>implying D&D can keep someone fat
they're not THAT powerful
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>>70271995
they're keeping Emilia fat enough
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>>70271162
the sword is needed to kill the white walkers so that is why he did it. has nothing to do with his personality.
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>>70271162
It was the dumbest thing Sam could have done.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Brightroar

Brightroar use to be the ancestral Valyrian steel greatsword of House Lannister. King Tommen II lost that shit when he decided to take a vacation to the doom of Valyria, and Tywin's youngest brother even went as far as to go on a recovery mission to try and get it back. He never returned.

Sam is leaving Horn Hill to go to Oldtown... How the fuck is Randyl Tarly, one of the greatest military commanders in Westeros, not gonna take a two day march to the southwest of the Reach and reclaim that shit?

D&D have no fucking idea what they're doing anymore.
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>>70271258
the underrated British kek
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>>70271717

>Randyll follows Sam to Oldtown with a small elite guard
>Ironborn attack
>Tarly v Greyjoy scene
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>>70271162
What the fuck is this character?
How can a dude that fat and unskilled at combat even defeat something?
Are you telling me a white walker would really get rekt by this fat slob because of "Muh courage".
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>>70271794
Honestly, I can't wait til he gets the fuck away from Gilly. There love is cringey to watch and the scenes go no where.
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>>70271852
>>70271819

Same thing with the Tyrells and the Faith Militant
>choosing to stay imprisoned when you know exactly what you have to do to be released
>don't do it because THEN THEY WOULD WIN THO

Honestly the Faith Militant is a great faction who is trying to keep the people who ruined the continent from remaining so prideful. All you have to do is give up your pride and you can go back to running the Kingdom, and nobody will do it sincerely because they really are huge prideful assholes who don't really give a shit about anyone.
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>>70272409
This.
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Why does Sam have a northern accent when he's a Southron? He had it before spending time at the wall.
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>>70272779
The guy is an evil chessmaster pope

He wants the power for himself and his church
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>>70271162

What really triggers me is how he literally looks indistuinghable from the day he joined the Watch.

I get it, he didn't become a ranger/was more into books, but logic dictates that each member isn't given fucking 5000 calories of food each day. This guy should have slimmed down from the rations/physical activity demanded of him.

Kind of like Hurley from Lost
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>>70271217
>If you want consistent characterization
I literally lost respect for GoT in the second episode
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>>70273735
EBIN, upvoted
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>>70272723
>>70271794

their *
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>>70273703

He's cutting of chunks of Gill's baby that's why it's not growing
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Oh, look, another thread where we complain about Game of Thrones. Why do you fucks even bother? If you hate it so much, fucking stop watching. But you won't, because we all know you're just trying to fit in by acting like you hate the show.
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>>70273900
If I stopped watching it what else is there?
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>>70273980
Something you'll like, you fucking sheep.
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>Trusting your wilding girlfriend with a man who hates wildings and purposely sent you to kill them
>Thinking your wilding girlfriend can keep up a lie

Why didn't he just tell him she was the daughter of one of the night watch who was stationed north of the wall? It's true and he could argue she's technically not a true wilding
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>>70273900
>criticizing some plots of a show means you hate it
>mouth breathing this hard
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Why the fuck would he even need it? He's going to Oldtown to be a maester for god's sake. What, he's going to hire a messenger to transport a sword that could buy a fiefdom through war-torn territory to the wall? The only thing he's accomplishing by taking it is making sure Randyll sends someone after him to take it back.

Why not just talk with his father and explain the situation at the wall better than the letters could? Tell him that the Others are actually real and marching on the wall. Tell him all of the wildlings are at the wall trying to get in if that's the easier story to sell. ANYTHING to get Randyll "if the mother is a prostitute I'll be mute, if she's wild I've got no child" Tarly to get his ass to the wall along with the sword. Why the fuck isn't Sam telling absolutely everyone about the dire situation at the wall as he goes south? It's not like he's cooped up on a ship like in the books.
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>>70271162

It fits perfectly.

Hes too cowardly to even respond to his dad, instead he does what betas do, do shit behind someone's back.
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>>70271359
>to make a name for himself as it's the only way he'll have a future
What? Its an actual death sentence. it means he will NEVER have a name for himself and he WON'T have a future because he'll be in constant danger of death
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>>70271930
When he was talking about how they mostly ate rabbits and squirrels I kept expecting Randyll to question how the fuck he wasn't skinny if that's all they had.
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>>70272409
Because who the fuck would raise an army to take back a sword that your son took who you were supposed to give to anyways
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>>70273900
Oh, look, another post where we complain about Game of Thrones threads. Why do you fucks even bother? If you hate it so much, fucking stop reading. But you won't, because we all know you're just trying to fit in by acting like you hate the threads.
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>>70274326
Try yelling "the jihadis are coming the jihadis are coming" in the EU. You'll be ridiculed, branded a racist and probably even put in arrest.

Even after the second rape-fest yesterday at a concert in Berlin, where 18 girls were sexually assaulted by "refugees" Europe is still, "the whitewalkers ain't real".

As long as they don't see it for themselves, or some of those liberal radical-left politicians doesn't get a circumcised kebab dick up his butthole, nothing will change.

We had our nightwatch in Europe too, telling us, this shit is real, it is happening and you are next. Don't need to remind you what we did to them.
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>>70272409
>Tywin's youngest brother even went as far as to go on a recovery mission to try and get it back. He never returned.

Friendly reminder that he's chilling in Essos being rich as fuck after selling artefacts to the likes of Euron, having no reason to go back to Westeros to be a third son.

He'll be shown to be alive when Kevan's dead and his family needs a ruler.
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>>70274724
so much /this
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>>70273842
>that's why it's not growing

Nigga it went from newborn to toddler in record-time.
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>>70271162

WHY DID HE DO THAT

seriously what did he accomplish by stealing that sword.

he could've ran off with gilly to oldtown, his dad wouldnt even care and left him to go becaome a pussy maester.

but no. sam needed to steal the fucking family sword.

literally why. now he's basically fucked, his dad along with some knights will ride his fat arse down, and he'll be lucky if he survives, gilly and by extension the baby's lives are now forfeit, his fathe hates gilly and sees her as less than human and will assume gilly helped Sam steal the sword and put her down the moment he sees her

so now he's condemned Gilly and baby Sam to death. all because he wanted a sword. and what's he gonna even do with it? its a fucking great-sword, its massive its meant to be handled by a strong warrior, he would even be able to lift the thing.

>"what if he wanted a valyrian sword for the white walkers???"

oldtown is the furthest way you can be from north without swimming, he's not exactly gonna be running into white walkers any time soon.

>"but anon he wanted revenge on his meanie dad"

sam has not once tried or even wished revenge upon people who msitreat him, he's a coward. he only acts brave when someone he cares for is in immediate danger. and of all kinds of revenge to even do, stealing the sacred family sword? really? the dumbest fucking thing he could do. and this is a smart person apparently.
and a side note, why did'nt he mention the battle at castle black? he could've gained some serious appreciation points for fighting and winning in a battle against the largest army westeros had ever seen. that would've impressed his dad and likely made it more likely for his dad to accept gilly and not be a prick and question her
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>>70274094
Craster wasnt in the nights watch she's an incest wilding.

Also there is no take your daughter to work day in the nights watch so i dont see how that would make sense regardless.
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>>70274672
You're greatly underestimating how valuable Valyrian steel swords are.

>>70274707
Game of Thrones has the most frustrated fanbase since TWD season 2. We're in too deep to drop the show, we can only salvage the decent bits of an overall poorly written fanfic.

>>70274755
we can dream, Anon. we can dream. ;_;
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>>70273735
care to explain?
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>>70274889
I only watch it now to rage and then shitpost about it. I find it very satisfying.
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>>70271574

hes going to oldtown though. which is ltierally the next town over from horn hill.

but thats irrelevent. he wont even get to oldtown, let alone the north. his father will take up the fastest horse, grab a dozen household knights and ride sam down in no time.

you actually think sam would outrun his father? no chance
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>>70274909
I'm guessing its because in the books cat wants ned to go south (muh children or something) and ned doesnt want to (muh burned brother/father) and they inverted it in the show. They also changed cats character a lot.
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>>70272702

it wasnt exactly a pitched battle between sam and a walker

it was literally a back stab.
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>>70273900
You're allowed to hate plotlines and stupid moments. You know that, right? The line between liking and hating a show isn't that thin. You don't have to love every moment to like a show.
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>>70274326

sam yelling about the white walkers down south is equal to you yelling about orcs in the real world right now

as far as everyone is concerned they do not exist, at all. never did. they are a stupid little story told to scare kids.
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>>70275253
Hence telling everyone about wildlings at the gates instead. Especially your dad who hates wildlings.

Why does his dad hate wildlings, anyway? It's not like any of those fucks ever made it as far south as Horn Hill. I don't remember him hating wildlings in the books.
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>>70271162
GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING SWORD, YOU FAT KEK!
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>>70274835
It's to set up Sam for his beta knight storyline to appeal to tumblr.
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>>70272779
>choosing to stay imprisoned when you know exactly what you have to do to be released
>don't do it because THEN THEY WOULD WIN THO

more like "don't walk naked in the streets like some fucking tart because you're a fucking noble and above that sort of shit treatment"

you're not a noble so you don't understand
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>>70275337
>Why does his dad hate wildlings, anyway? It's not like any of those fucks ever made it as far south as Horn Hill.

There are people in America hating muslims, without even seeing one. There are even people in America that believe if you go there over an ocean and kill muslims you are defending your "freedom".
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>>70275436
It's more probable that he's a man, and thus wouldn't have given a shit.

Loras walking naked through the streets would just have netted him a line of fuckbois lining up outside his door every day of the week.
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>>70275337
Everyone hates them South of the Wall. Northerners are the only ones with anything in common with the Wildlings, and they hate them for climbing over the Wall to rape, loot, and kill. I mean, most Southern nobles probably find the North itself to be kinda savage and uncivilized, let alone the bandits north of the Wall.
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>>70275496
>9/11
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>>70272022
Reminder that they killed off the direwolves to make space in the budget to feed Emilia.
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>>70271162
A man can take shit for so long before enough is enough.
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>>70275594
>>70275496
Well yeah, but the way it's portrayed in the show Randyll dislikes them even more than your average southerner.
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>>70275594
no they dont even in the north most people dont give a shit because they barely do anything.
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>>70274439
This. He didn't send him to the wall to "have a future". It was a selfish act, a means to remove Sam from the line of succession, without just killing him outright (the other option he was given)

If he was really concerned about his son's future, he could've easily just sent for him to be a Maester.
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>>70275496
We've been shoulder deep in the Middle east for years now. We hear about soldiers getting killed constantly. The news has been Al-qaeda, and ISIS for the past 15 years. ISIS is running around kidnapping and executing Christians. And then you're surprised when Americans hate Muslims? Of course we do. All we ever hear about them is how they blew up a fucking bus, or tore down a Historical monument, or groped a bunch of white women on New Years Eve. It makes complete sense to hate them when all you hear of them is violence.
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>>70271359
>send him to night's watch to die
fixed

Randyll should have been a better father from the start, he didn't choose to have a fat son, but he could have at a least claimed him as his own.
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>>70271794
Yeah, they could easily make Sam a cool character, but he's been sad and pathetic for so fucking long that it's getting frustrating. Even when he does cool shit, it doesn't really change him. He just goes right back to being a blubbering sad sack.
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>>70275719
I mean, the resentment was there to begin with. Then the woman who your disappointment of a son has a bastard with is revealed to be a Wildling. Despite all of this, he still agreed to allow her to stay. I'd say he handled it pretty fucking well.
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>>70275824
An important part is that being a maester would have removed Sam from the line of succession as well. Randyll was just so much of an asshole that he'd send his son off to die in the Night's Watch rather than be "a faggy maester", to make sure Sam couldn't tell anyone about his bullshit and so that he could tell everyone about his son who died protecting the realm, upping the cred of his family.
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>>70275038
Its been awhile but is Cat still a stupid bitch in the show like the books?
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>>70276019
He doesn't even have a fucking arc. He just gets dropped in a dangerous setting, manages to survive through sheer luck, then goes back to being a pathetic little fuck. Every fucking time. I was hoping that maybe he'd at least have had the courage to stand up to his father instead of fucking staring straight forward like some fucking wimp. It's just so obnoxiously pathetic.
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>>70276087
The red wedding was a while ago, but yeah up until then.
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>>70276155
Pretty much. We don't need every character to be a pillar of strength or anything, but at least less of a gigantic pussy. He's seen and experienced enough to have grown, but he just hasn't. It's either poor writing, or we just weren't supposed to like him to begin with.
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>>70274326
>Why the fuck isn't Sam telling absolutely everyone about the dire situation at the wall as he goes south?
Yeah, this is what's annoying me. You'd think the fat fuck would have at least kept his priorities in order and learned how to speak up when something is important. God dammit

Why has he had exactly zero character development? He's been through a lot by now, but he's still just a sad dipshit. You'd think being in life-threatening situations at the Wall would have toughened him up some. (And made him lose some weight, god damn. How many years has it been on a strict diet? It's just impossible to stay that fat in that situation.)
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>>70274835
>why did'nt he mention the battle at castle black?
I was scratching my head at that one too. Of course his father isn't going to cut him any slack if he's just sitting there being an idiot, not standing up for himself.
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>>70277002
Exactly, it would only make sense that he would fucking grow stronger and braver after the shit he's been through. Why haven't they made him at least a little bit tougher?
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>>70272779
you never know, it could be the plan/they could decide that margery was just waiting long enough to confess that it seemed convincing when she did
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>>70271162
Gilly's wet bergina gave him the confidence to do it
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Is Sam just George RR Martin's self insert character that got taken way too far?

God he's such a fucking hack
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>>70273703
>Kind of like Hurley from Lost
most of Lost only takes place over a few weeks (i think s1-4 was 40 days) and they stumble upon a huge cache of supplies early on.
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>>70277486
>>70277002

If Randyll Tarly couldn't make a man out of him then some faggots in black cloaks isn't going to manage to do it.
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>>70275575
oh yeah loras maybe

I was thinking margaery
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>>70271230
Oh, yes, sam the slayer, so brave, taking the sword when no one's looking and puffing his chest in front of a cunny. I would have some respect for him if he actually said any of that in his father's face, as opposed to trying to impress some backwater inbred redneck
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>>70277666
He killed a Thenn and a Walker and survived North of the Wall. That makes a man.
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>fat dude literally a coward
>decides to steal fathers prized sword for no apparent reason
>no guards
>father will now hunt him because of fat guys retarded actions
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>>70277666
Randyll just seems like a fag with a chip on his shoulder though. You'd think he'd be interested in hearing how the wall was and what's going on in the north. Instead he's just bitching about wildlings (who he would have had no real reason to hate since he's all the fuck way down south) and yelling at his dipshit son who at least has found some worth in becoming a bookworm.
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>>70272102
Right, is he going to send the sword to the wall by pony express or something? Because if not, his father is gonna take the sword back five minutes into the next episode
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>>70272102
As if a single sword will even matter in the grand scheme of things. What's needed is dragonglass. At least you can amass enough of that to outfit a force, not just a single man.
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>>70274672
>to take back a sword that your son took who you were supposed to give to anyways

He's going to give it to his son. Dickon Tarly is his son. Officially and by his own choice, Sam is not his son, is not a Tarly, has no claim to any possessions of the Tarlys, and is supposed to be at the Wall or studying, not carting around a whore and cuckson looking for someone to take them in.

The nice thing is that Sam can't take the black to escape his crimes, so Lord Tarly can probably just hang Piggy as soon as he finds a strong enough tree.
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Reminder that Jon could've provided definitive proof of Walkers if he had just taken this, pic related, Walker's weapon after he killed him
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>>70271355
>He's raising another man's stone as if it were his own. That takes balls.

Balls in the mouth maybe.
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>>70276056
He just wanted Sam to be a real man. The fat bastard couldn't do it in the South, and he can't do it with a chain around his neck. Randyll wanted him gone, but he also explicitly said that he hoped the Watch would make Sam into a real man.
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>>70278131
That's not proof of anything, idiot. And it couldn't be sent south.
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>>70271289
Your post is spot on (unless old boy is a crim in fat mans clothes).
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>>70278296
>ice weapon that can shatter steel
>not proof of anything

Wew lad
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>>70277820
>Instead he's just bitching about wildlings (who he would have had no real reason to hate since he's all the fuck way down south)
Even in the south, 'wildling' is shorthand for 'uncouth, inhuman, worthless rapist and raider'. He hates them the same way people always hated the monsters who lived too far away to see. In medieval Europe, you didn't need to know a Jew to be disgusted if your son showed up with a baby-eating Christ-denier on his arm.

>yelling at his dipshit son who at least has found some worth in becoming a bookworm.
Actually retarded. The whole point is that Randyll thinks that type of thing is beneath a man of his lineage. Being a bookworm when you have the blood of family of warriors in your vein is the most fervent denial of worth possible.
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I don't understand how you fags can laugh at him when well over 90% 4chan users are exactly like that.
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>>70278396
Please tell me you're just shitposting.

If not: the weapons aren't shattering shit. The Others are making shit super-cold. Like how the fire went out when they walked up to it in the door episode. Without an Other, the blade is just fucking ice.
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>>70278444
But nobody in the real world thinks that's a good state to be in. D&D want us to hold up this fat bastard, who takes no initiative and has not evolved at all over the show, and applaud him for the heroism of stealing from his father while the family sleeps.
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>>70276018
>he didn't choose to have a fat son
He did since he didn't keep him from being a fatty, parental responsibility and all.
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>>70278756
>mom offering him bread

yeah, try to keep that bitch from carbing him up
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>>70278756
>parental responsibility

You mean like his mother's responsibility not to coddle him? Randyll got him dozens of masters-at-arms to train him, made him work, made him sleep in armour and tried to make him slaughter animals to toughen him up. Mommy tucked little piggy into her skirts and breast-fed him until he was 12, then let him graduate to eating fistfuls of lard.

Sam was weak, and his mother protected him from being hardened by his father like Tyrion was hardened by Tywin. But at least while she was coddling him, Lord Tarly could take his second son and turn him into a real man.
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>>70274326
He's gunna learn how to make valerian steel.
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>>70278895
>Mommy tucked little piggy into her skirts and breast-fed him until he was 12, then let him graduate to eating fistfuls of lard.


Oh god the mental image.
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is that the best sword on the show btw? it looked pretty pimped out long sword

there is what 5 valyrian steel swords? Briennes is a short sword because its cut in half from neds and the other half tommen has is even smaller .. john snows isnt bad but i think fatty has the best and no clue where the dagger is
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>>70278955
Isn't the required materials only availible in very limited quantity?
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>>70276018
>fat kids aren't the parents fault.
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>>70279079
Ned's sword was a bastard/greatsword. The one Brienne has is a longsword. Tommen's is a shortsword.
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>>70279162
>Fat kids become fat adults
>Fuck personal accountability
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>>70279092
It might be made out of regular steel, just magicked. Nobody knows how to make them from scratch, the best anyone's done is remake a sword like how they turned Ned's greatsword into two different ones.

Though Piggy learning how to make one in Oldtown now that magic is back in the world, disappearing for half a season, then coming back as a swole smith with a cartload of Valaryian swords would be great.
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>>70279255
>Mold your offspring into weakminded manchildren
>no responsibility for them fucking up adulthood
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>>70279272
>now that magic is back in the world
How? I've only watched it on and off.

>coming back as a swole smith
They would have to fucking CGI his body and it would be hilarious.
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>>70278895
So then he should have slapped some sense into her or something.

He just sat idly by throwing excuses at the problem instead of dealing with the roots.
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>>70279272
>Sam finds Gendry in Oldtown and they make swords together

Shit, that would actually make Sam's episodes interesting.
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>>70279272
>now that magic is back in the world
Are you sure you're not confusing this with berserk?
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>>70279486
>they make swords together

Is that what they call it in Oldtown?
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>>70279396
>>70279508
>being this stupid

>>70279521
That and "forging rings".
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>>70279396
>How?

Unexplained, but possibly because the dragons were born. Valyria is the place where dragons originally came from, the magic swords came from, the Targaryens came from, and now it's at the bottom of the sea because of a magic nuke or something.

Magic is coming back, which is why the Red God's servants are able to do all kinds of crazy spell shenanigans like bringing back the dead, why all the Stark kids got magic connections with their wolves, why the White Walkers are stirring, etc. The exact time it started coming back, and the reasons for coming back, are hazy, but it's definitely on the upswing.
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>>70279521
>Every good sword needs a sheath
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>>70279557
>possibly because the dragons were born
The white walkers started walking long before that happened though.
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>>70278616
>Without an Other, the blade is just fucking ice.

And you source for that is?

Oh yeah, you're ass
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>>70279693
*your
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>>70279643
True. Why I said the timeline was hazy. Melisandre thinks it's tied into the dragons, and nobody else in the show has offered a decent explanation about what's happening. The closest thing was a throwaway chapter in the books where some Maester in Oldtown had a magic candle and made vague statements.
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>>70279724
*You are ass
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>>70271574
durr LF is stated to having contact in the vail... probably just sell tarly one.
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When did Gilly get such a mouth on her though? She used to be very meek and quiet like Sam.
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>>70280144
Golddiggers usually speak up when their mealticket is in danger.
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>>70271258
Well i am 20-21st~ and I don't look anywhere near that fat.
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>>70280144
Sam out-beta'd her. She was used to getting slapped around and never met a person who was as soft as Sam. Sam's been coddled all his life (until the watch) and he hasn't developed at all since arriving in the north. Even a beaten rape baby like her has bigger balls than that fat retard.
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>>70280144
She learned how to read.

Nothin' good comes from womenfolk readin'.
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>>70278017
Sam will kill Randall or Dickon Tarly and the show will portray him a good guy for doing it.
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>>70281137
It'll be Randyll, after Sam talks to Dickon and gets him to tearfully admit that Daddy bullied him too.

They've killed off enough characters to not have much chaff left, now everyone's getting sorted into boring good or bad.
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>>70281265
That really sucks. The reason GoT was so good is the fact that while there were characters who were good and 'bad', the writing didn't favour those who were morally right, it kept the show interesting. That's why Dany became super boring : there's no doubt that she'll be alright because plot armor +10 plus there won't be development to her character like power corrupting her, she'll be muh righteous conqueror queen instead of having to face more difficult choices like when she was actually governing Meereen.
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>>70271819
Because Sam knows that his father is a cunt and would treat Gilly and Samwell horribly.
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>>70275837
that's why anon makes a point, it is the reason randly hates them, he only hears of them raping and slaughtering southerners.
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>>70281659
Honestly, Randyll doesn't seem like the type. He said he'd get her a job in the kitchens, and he doesn't like her at all, but I can't see him caring enough to treat Gilly poorly. He just doesn't give enough of a shit about Sam's failings to make their lives hell.

Though maybe if the boy grew up looking strong, he might try and take the kid and turn him into a man-at-arms.
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>>70271359
>becoming a maester
>doing fucking nothing

pick one
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>>70279557
>Valyria is the place where dragons originally came from
nah they come from Asshai, was mentioned in the books and in the show
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>>70281852
Dany's eggs came from Asshai, but dragons as a species do not necessarily come from there.
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>>70271162
Anyone have a .webm of Gilly's face just as Sam leaves? Shit was the cutest thing.
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>>70280237
Fat bastard
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>tfw Gilly will never fuck your in the ass with a steel strap-on while calling you a little bitch
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>>70271359
Randyll was never wrong, but he was an ass about it
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>>70271162
He's GRRM's self insert, he's going to end up becoming pivotal to the defeat of the Others.
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>>70271355

>He's raising another man's stone as if it were his own.

Sounds like a cuck
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>>70279350
>why haven't i seen this image before now?
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>>70277486
He should at least be able to tell his dad to fuck off. He killed a fucking ice monster but is still scared to speak to his father.
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>>70275496
There are followers of Islam hating White People, without even seeing one.
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>>70283611
He killed a White Walker but he doesn't brag about it because he knows he only managed to do so through a massive stroke of luck. And nobody would believe him anyway. It'd be like trying to sell a creepypasta about beating up Slenderman on 4chan as real.
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>>70277486

Yeah, like how in real life veterans are completely confident invincible supermen, and not PSTD laden homeless
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>Nobody mentions that NW aren't supposed to have kids
The whole scene was retarded really. It was funny to see Sam's dad call him a useless fat shit, but still overall a dumb scene.
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>>70284581
His dad did call him on that when he said she was a wildling. Randyll said that he thought Gilly was some Moletown whore, which he could respect a tiny amount because she wasn't the enemy.
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>>70274094
Or say she was a northener kidnapped by wildlings raiding from the sea.
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