what was this movie really about?
niggers
>>70245125
Penis in vagina in space.
>>70245153
>>70245156
yeah we all get that
but what does it mean
>>70245125
>>70245236
>>70245236
Reproduction is fun. Reproduction in space is more fun.
>>70245125
Evolution.
>>70245125
http://www.kubrick2001.com/
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>>70245125
>>70245153
>monolith
>vagina
This almost literally couldn't be more wrong.
>>70245366
Is your pic supposed to imply that it can't symbolize a vagina?
>>70245453
Not directly, but the fact that the monolith is clearly phallic in aspect and spurs the progression of violence through another phallic object (the bone) which is then symbolically transfused into all future technology via a jump-cut to a phallic satellite, kind of hints that maybe "The monolith is a vagina" is barking up the wrong tree.
>>70245125
the transcendental/transformative powers of cinema as an art form.
>>70245585
The monolith is also a narrow opening.
>>70245632
This, the monolith is a screen
>>70245125
Aliens.
>>70245644
In the book. Hard to say the same in the movie, if I remember rightly.
>>70245585
no ones dick looks like a fucking rectangle you retard
>>70245804
Actually in the movie they made it even more narrow than it's supposed to be with the 1:4:9 proportions
The monolith is a piece of alien technology that moves a species forward in evolution.
that's it.
Missing the point of the movie when you focus on every detail lol
>>70245902
yes we get that, but what did it really mean
>>70245805
>i don't know how something can symbolise something else, i literally don't know how that works
>i also apparently think vaginas are rectangular
>>70245861
No, I mean in the movie there's noIT'S FULL OF STARSbit.
>>70245962
>No, I mean in the movie there's noIT'S FULL OF STARSbit.
Are you seriously suggesting that the monolith isn't a doorway in the movie?
>>70245962
>because things can symbolize other things,every object in the film has another hidden meaning instead of just being a set peice to move the plot along
>>70245929
aliumz are the reason humans are humans desu
>>70246047
>every object in the film
No, just the one that we're talking about.
>>70246107
yeah, we get that, but what did it really mean?
>>70246013
Does Dave Bowman enter it in the movie? It's not made explicit that he does and it never occurred to me that he did until I read the book, so I dunno. The monkeys and the dudes on the moon didn't.
>>70246262
>Does Dave Bowman enter it in the movie?
It's heavily implied that the monolith is the reason why he's transported across space and time
>>70246363
Yeah, I know, I'm asking if he physically goes inside it, though.
>>70245366
>What is needed is not a leap in technological prowess, but a leap in existential prowess
Indeed. That film Mr. Nobody with Jared Leto painted a depressing view of space travel: The only reason humans would leave Earth is for more resources. We colonize Mars but Mars is owned by corporate entities and people are shipped there regularly to work and manufacture bicycles. As long as corporations lobby congress, any sort of space travel will be for corporations.
>>70246422
Not everything has to spelled out, you know.
>>70246472
I feel like that's not something that needs to be spelled out.
>>70246013
That depends does a doorway have swirly light show or are the rays of light always straight?
>>70245125
It's a piece of speculative science fiction which, between Clarke and Kubrick, was a means to show off how smart and worldly they are. To that end, they included several "modern" themes in the work:
-the notion that man did in fact evolve from monkeys
-technological progression
-modern orchestral music, including atonal, ambient pieces (which helped to influence later musical culture)
-artificial intelligence, both its inevitable development, and hazards
-the realistic tedium and grave danger of deep space travel
-acid trip (inserted at an appropriate place in the narrative) as a nod to contemporary culture
-revisionist history by means of the monolith's intervention. We never really address God as such, as in other sci-fi, but the monolith fills in for God, to start things going, and tantalize with mystery.
The movie has two points: first, to showcase that the creators could synthesize all these elements and themes into a coherent story at all, and thereby demonstrate their artistry-mastery, and further legitimize themselves as artists. The second point of the movie is to suggest a vaguely ambitious, modern view of progression (which is agreeable to the creators' personal temperaments), which inspires further technological development in every sense - IRL, and in the movies themselves. God is minimized by means of the mysterious monolith, a stand-in, which the creators are obliged to include as an animating mystery for the story, but whose details they do not wish to probe (at this point. See 2010 for literal probing and beating it to death).
