Is this the closest we'll ever get to a hollywood-size Lovecraft adaptation or anything even slightly related to the mythos?
>>70093656
If this shitty fucking movie full of typical whedon nonsense is what Lovecraft is all about then I'm glad I've never read a single thing he's written. Fuck lovecraft then desu
>>70093696
why does whedon make people so angry?
lovecraft has been done to death. An adaption just wouldn't work because it would bring nothing new
>>70093696
Only Lovecraftish thing in it was the presence of the Great Old Gods, which was pretty obvious a reference
>>70093696
It's not what Lovecraft is about at all. The Whedon dick sucker defense force just likes to pretend his shit don't stink and try to inject Lovecraft into the conversation to defend his shitty movie.
Cast a Deadly Spell is better Lovecraft than this abortion of a movie.
>>70093656
Hellboy, visually at least.
>>70093730
sjWheedon is an enabler of the worst degree.
>>70093837
tfw when they'll never let him adapt At the Mountains of Madness
>>70093787
>>70093802
Care to recommend me something actually Lovecraftian then?
I've heard True Detective is. And I absolutely loved both seasons of that.
>>70093907
bump
>>70093878
The script was garbage. Juvenile fanboy wank. Glad it didn't happen.
>>70093907
Not sure were you've heard that, it has some references to occultism but that is a pretty wide category.
Only Lovecraft shit is Carpenter movies really.
>>70093907
True Detective is, only vaguely. In the sense that its detectives investigating a spooky cult and they might be treading too close to something unknowable.
It could have become so much more in later seasons but they decided to just abandon the occult angle for some reason.
>>70093907
dagon
>>70093907
Re-Animator is entertaining.
>>70093907
>>70093656
In the Mouth of Madness.
>>70093656
>Is this the closest we'll ever get to a hollywood-size Lovecraft adaptation or anything even slightly related to the mythos?
It's not even remotely related to the Mythos, or Lovecraft. That's a titan, it's greek.
>>70094162
Shit, yes.
Best fucking mad scientist in all of film too.
>le snarkhut in le snarkweald
Is this the closest we'll ever get to a hollywood-size Reddit adaptation or anything even slightly related to the cancer?
>>70094167
>>70094195
>In the Mouth of Madness.
mah niggas.
Mouth of Madness, pleb
better Lovecraftian, better movie
>>70093740
No he hasn't. His themes are hardly used at all.
>>70094195
>It's not even remotely related to the Mythos, or Lovecraft
This just isn't true, the true evil described in the film are Old Gods who demand human sacrifice in order to not destroy humanity, a common theme in the Lovecraft universe. Though just saying "that's a titan" you yourself acknowledge the Lovecraftian element of the film as Lovecraft obviously borrowed heavily from Greek mythology.
>>70094519
That's what I like about Lovecraft-themes. Things that make humans feel insignificant. People don't seem to understand and think "it's too hard to translate Lovecraft stories to film". No, it's just never done at all.
Hellboy was a decent flick. The finale blew my mind with the cosmic entity.
>>70094519
That's not a common theme in Lovecraft, human sacrifice never pops up. Old Gods refers to Titans, and Lovecraft didn't borrow from Greek mythology you stupid fuck.
>>70094519
>>70094828
Why do they let children on 4chan
I never got any lovecraftian-vibes from Cabin in the Woods.
One of the most common themes in Lovecraft is the complete and total insignificance of the human race in the grand scheme of things. Outside of rare instances like Nyarlothep, the old ones are incognizant of us and our existence is basically a cosmic ephemeral accident.
Cabin of the Woods, however, asserts that the Gods are not only heavily invested in the human condition, but that we were created in their image.
Outside of the notion that God is deplorable/vengeful, there's not much overlap between the two.
>>70095082
we're hoping they post nudes.
>>70093730
Whedon is held up as a great writer when all of his work is full of cringeworthy quips. No one in real life speaks like a Joss Whedon character.
Closest we're ever getting to an SCP Foundation movie, which is too bad because the organization in Cabin was horribly incompetent by comparison
>>70093740
name five lovecraftian films
i'm not trying to disprove you, I'd like to see them
to me it seems like a fresh direction for horror
>>70094411
Carpenter is a sick, sick man!
>>70095245
this guy gets it
>>70095403
>because the organization in Cabin was horribly incompetent by comparison
That depends if we're talking Old-SCP or New-SCP.
Old-SCP was definitely more in line with what you'd expect in Cabin in the Woods.
>>70095082
Literal Lovecraft adaptions =/= Lovecraftian
Jesus fuck
>>70093656
Prometheus
In the Mouth of Madness
Borderlands
Under the Skin
>>70095245
This. Never even read Lovecraft and I know this.
>>70093656
You know, Lovecraft didn't invent the idea of dark, underground gods, or sacrifices to them in pits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chthonic
Who would be a good Lovecraft director? It would have to be someone good with atmosphere and tension.
>>70095419
Not him. They are very uncommon movies. The few that I think are Lovecraftian are
The Mist
Re-Animator
Hellboy
The Borderlands
Cabin in the Woods
Dagon
ITMOM
The Thing
That's about it.
Oh and Event Horizon.
>>70094087
Didn't like it at all tbqh. I think an adaptation of The Shadow Over Innsmouth that's more true to the novel could really work though.
>>70095559
The dudes who made Blue Ruin.
>>70095559
Ridley
>>70095662
>Cabin in the Woods
With the exception of the gods at the end even then not really cabin in the woods has nothing lovecraft about it. Not in themes not in lore not in atmosphere.
>>70093656
If you did not smile at least once during the final act of the movie, then you are a fucking soulless contrarian piece of shit. I hate Whedon just as much as everyone here does but even I loved Cabin in The Woods.
There is a film which follows a team of geologists who research some unusual earthquakes in a remote area and find a enourmous creatur underground is responsible for it.
Forgot the name, felt lofcraftian tho. Also giant tentacles as added bonus
>>70093907
In the mouth of madness
>>70095559
Del Taco and Ridley are pretty much the only people who could do it right.
>>70095781
Europa?
>>70095662
>borderlands
>event horizon
can confirm
DUDE TENTACLES LMAO
xxDDD
normies have ruined lovecraft
>>70095781
That happened in the latest Godzilla movie, kind of
Absentia is pretty good. Has a solid Lovecraftian vibe.
>>70095822
>del taco
Have you read that alleged script for "At the Mountains of Madness" that he canned in favor of Pacific Rim?
It was fucking shit.
>>70095834
the last 20 minutes of the borderlands fucked me up senpai.
One of the few times i found footage movie actually scared the shit out of me.
>>70094080
>but they decided to just abandon the occult angle for some reason.
It's the ultimate redpill, anon. It goes beyond jews and catholics and freemasons and whatever else.
>>70095890
yeah, but in this film the main part is discovering whats going on and the disbelieve and panic of the characters
>>70095824
thats not it
found it a few years back on some streaming website and would like to rewatch it, but I can't think of the title...
>>70095936
It's a shame that found footage is so played out, it's perfect for lovecraftian material
>>70095834
>>70095662
Event Horizon was more Warhammer 40k. Especially the 'warp incursion' parts they cut because it was just batshit crazy.
>>70093837
the comics have a much, much greater Lovecraft-ish feeling
>>70095546
For reference, a bothros, a pit for ritual sacrifice to gods associated with the earth and the underground.
>>70095892
I loved this film.
>>70093907
I liked Event Horizon.
>>70096339
Hellblazer had some fitting story arcs.
What's your favorite lovecraftian adaptations?
Mine would probably be the Necromorphs from Dead Space or the Eldrazi from Magic the Gathering.
>>70096677
double dubs confirm m8
>>70096701
Old and tired now, but Amnesia was a good experience of what it'd probably feel like to be a Lovecraft character.
Oh and then there is Darkest Dungeon.
>>70095768
That looks so amateurish
i went to see cabin in the woods not knowing anything about it except that it was a some kind of horror movie
figured out early on that it was a parody and i thought it was hilarious. i was laughing the whole way through
i actually saw it with a large group of people, and there was a clear divide between the dumbasses in my friend group who "didn't get it" and the smart ones. uncanny.
>>70093907
For the love of God just read lovecraft. Some stories can be a bit laborious to get started but his body of work is really incredible.
I see a lot of people hate on this one but I would recommend starting with Dreams in the Witch House
>>70095559
Danny Boyle imo
Bloodborne is the best Lovecraft adaptation in the sense that it captures the moode of the stories
>>70097288
>ayy lmaos
>>70097172
Also, his poems were pretty slamming.
>>70096097
Pretty much the perfect way to present The Statement of Randolph Carter
>two plots running parallel
>one found footage of Randolph and his teacher in the swamp
>one of Randolph being interrogated
Fund it
>>70097172
Pickman's Model is another great entry level short
>>70097172
This
This should be the only logic anyone takes from anything ever.
>>70095662
You're missing From Beyond and Banshee Chapter.
>Jules
>>70093730
Because he's annoying and his writing is juvenile, oh and his fanbase is insufferable.
Alien owes a lot to Mountains of Madness. I wish they had made a film adaptation back when practical effects were still the shit and movie magic was real.
What about Evil Dead? Maybe not directly Lovecraftian, but heavily inspired with Necronomicon, strange unexplainable evil forces etc.
>>70098050
>Banshee Chapter
please, let's forget this crap, it's pure shit
Can someone give a clear definition to what is Lovecraftian?
>>70093656
>muh Lovecraft
Get better taste, plebs.
>>70093787
The old ones in Cabin In The Woods were the audience.
>>70093907
True Detective absolutely is NOT lovecraftian in any sense. An aging junkie hallucinates a space thing on the verge of death. Anyone who reads more into that is an idiot.
It does have a nice creepy atmosphere though.
>>70099954
>atmosphere
>cults and dark rituals
>conspiracy
you should read more
>>70099777
no
>>70099858
>fear of the unknown
>there is no God
>the universe is crowded by nightmarish aliens
>the human is powerless
the list goes on
>>70097061
Well is was directed by a first time director on a slightly larger than tv budget. Soooo
>>70099858
The tease of magic, and the existence of giant powerful beings inconceivable the human mind, beings the protrude into our dimensions in strange ways and affect us in ways that don't follow the known rules of the universe.
>>70100033
A Lovecraft story would never end with "it was just an inbred hick raping little kids the whole time".
>>70100045
Could Prince of Darkness be considered Lovecraftian?
>>70100092
He was just a product of other people's dark work. The presence of some cosmic horror is felt in what motivated these men to do their evil deeds in the first place. It's fell influence creeps into the world and poisons the atmosphere, and creates an environment that brings out the worst in men.
There is not some tentacle-head guy sitting in a cave somewhere directing it. It's more diaphanous than that.
Beyond the Black Rainbow is probably one of the most
lovecraftian horror films I've ever seen.
It really nails the surreal sense of dread and terror of the unknown that is a staple in Lovecraftian mythos. It's also very strong on the psychological aspects.
>>70100092
> a lovecraft story would never end with it was just an imbred hick raping little kids the whole time.
So I guess you missed the story where it was just a family of inbred hicks raping their own kids and turned Into underground monkey people?
>>70100206
i think so
the Prince could be Shub-Niggurath/Nyarlathotep
>true lovecraftian movie
>spooky conclusion
>camera zooms on the main character's screaming face while screaming sound is covered by narration of the main character
>"I'm unable to describe what I saw, but it was really horrible you can take my word for that!"
>>70100244
>The presence of some cosmic horror
There's nothing cosmic about the horror in TD, it's entirely terrestrial in origin.
>hicks rape their kids
>hick's kids become violent psychopathic rapists
>corruption covers it up
Season one, which I assume is the only one we're discussing since S2 failed atmosphere, was all about how all humans are pieces of shit and we're basically one or two traumas from being worse than animals.
>>70100260
>underground monkey people
Yeah, you're going to have to cite your sources on that one for me.
>>70100369
The whole theme of this mythos or subgenre or whatever you want to call it is "fear of the unknown" which is an ancient and powerful fear that dwells in everyone. It's primordial and visceral. You not fucking supposed to see a guy in a rubber monster suit.
The Thing
Wes Cravens New Nightmare
Beyond the Black Rainbow
The Beyond
City of the Living Dead
The House By The Cemetery
Re Animator
Alien
Evil Dead 1+2
Event Horizon
In the Mouth of Madness
Dagon
Session 9
Suspiria
Videodrome and The Naked Lunch really evoke the kind of feeling you're looking for. Cronenberg is great for Lovecraftian themes and extreme
Body horror.
Richard Stanley is working on a true lovecraftian movie which is gonna be trippy as fug.
How do people feel about Dark City? It's basically about a race of omnipotent beings that create an existence designed to torture a man into madness.
>>70100369
> entire movie
> nothing is explained
> nothing is showed
> no reasoning for anything
> literally stops in middle of the movie before moving onto next story
Ohhhh man that was so spooky dog, fuking lovecraft does it again
>>70100727
Dark City is pretty solid. Even captures the noir look present in a lot of Lovecraftian role playing games.
>>70100563
>You not fucking supposed to see a guy in a rubber monster suit.
> fear of nothing
ok
>>70100490
>>70097091
there's nothing to get about the movie and you're not smart for understanding the whole point of the movie, which was literally part of the movie's marketing campaign
>>70093696
lovecraft is literally a literary meme. dont bother with him.
>>70101019
Interesting, but ultimately irrelevant. It's much too direct to really bring to mind the typical things Lovecraft wrote about. Especially as people refer to "the Mythos", the horror is always extra-terrestrial in origin.
Also, the villain in TD didn't degenerate into some beast-like form. It's pretty important to the story that they be all too human.
is whedon's name pronounce weed-on or we-don?
>>70101476
There's an unwritten g at the end of his name, so it's pronounced wee-dong.
>>70093656
>shitty movie finally ends
>NIN starts playing
worth it
>>70094411
>Carpenter will never make another Lovecraft homage film
He's still fucking alive too and I just want to see him make a crazy farewell film
lovecraft isn't really transferable to visual mediums, what makes his stories so powerful is precisely the unknown. if you take that away, if you actually show the shoggoth there is no sense of awe/mystery/exploration left.
>>70099777
The first one is, but the caveat is that he probably would've written the Professor's story only. The young ensemble is too much a stage/film only touch, and in a certain way it's sort of an "after Lovecraft" situation.
>>70101882
You can still make a movie about the existence/worship/workings of cosmic beings that have no regard for human sentience or sovereignty. Things that can manipulate, change, or destroy us with a whim.
Night of the Living Dead is close to Lovecraft, by the way. The film explicitly states that the cause of the dead rising is from space, some kind of radiation from a meteor or alien ship.
It's just the ending is too positive.
>>70102114
Whisperer in darkness was a pretty faithful adaptation.
La Herencia Valdemar has some moments.
I also liked the resurrected, from beyond, dagon and alsa the beyond (lucio fulci) but they do not really capture the essence
>>70093656
not really relevant to the thread but I immediately, thought of this when I saw your subject line
https://youtu.be/EN_wnHYOxkE
>>70101563
My reaction too, Last is one of my favorite NIN song from one of the greatest albums ever. So it made it worth it, and made my gf at the time sit through the credits to hear it played louder than I ever heard.
>>70101882
I think that Prince of Darkness is a good example, we never see the true form of the beings.
>>70095886
THIS
>muh Elder Gods xD
Kill yourselves
>>70101019
>that cover
Why would someone choose to include that picture? It literally spoils the whole story.
>>70102873
Outer gods is where it's at.
>>70094059
>>70094080
>he doesn't recognize the clear Lovecraftian themes in both TD seasons.
Who let the plebs in? It doesn't need ebin space monsters and muh cthulu to be Lovecraftian.
>>70103083
They're pretty dumb, though.
>>70103155
yeah, remember all those time lovecraft cut away from the horror so someone could bang his secretary, or violate an underling to show dominance?
>H.P. Lovecraft thread
>no mention of genuinely good adaptations of Lovecraft's work like The Call of Cthulhu, The Whisperer in Darkness and Die Farbe
>>70103232
I can't believe there still people who think there was anything Lovecraftian in TD. After getting BTFO not once, but twice.
>any normalfags talking about Lovecraft
>100% of the time it's just XD Tentacles cthulhu cthulu ctyulhu TWO FEET
>the second they find out lovecraft hated niggers they drop him and say he is toxic/problematic
I bet if they found out Tesla also hated niggers they'd stop pushing him as their liberal meme scientist.
Is there a concrete definition for "lovecraftian"?
>>70104176
It's just slang for eldritch.
>>70093907
Bloodborne
>>70104230
That's not a movie or tv show you manchild.
>>70104176
No. It's about themes and atmosphere. There are some things that are very lovecraftian and some things that aren't, but there isn't a concrete definition.
>>70102114
Any time I see a zombie film I imagine the cause is extra-terrestial, makes shit way more snoopy
>>70104620
>more snoopy
What?
