ITT candidates for best movie of all time.
>>70058921
inb4 "muh solaris"
>inb4 capeshit
>>70058921
2001 is fucking beautiful.
Perfect blend of art and entertainment, complete with great acting and sets. If you don't recognize this as one of the greatest of the medium, I feel sorry for you.
>>70059154
>>70058921
there is only one: citizen kane
>>70058921
parts 1 and 2
>>70058921
Battleship Potemkin
Bicycle Thieves
Citizen Kane
Greed
The Gold Rush
The Grand Illusion
The Passion of Joan of Arc
>>70059198
>There was a bad man: THE MOVIE
One of the most overrated movies.
>>70061119
>Lawrence of Arabia is reddit
kys tbqh baka kmt senpai
>>70061119
It was either you or a civil war fag that would show up
I just knew it
I've tried to think of any movie I appreciated more and I can't. It's the best
>>70058921
>>70061172
>>70061195
2 deep ?
>>70059154
>>70061119
Yeah one of these.
/thread
>>70059198
>>70061245
Good choices.
2007 was a great year in film
12 angry men, great achievement in acting, cinematography, pacing, story, and it conveys a great message.
>>70061119
A B S O L U T E K I N O T O G R A P H Y
>>70059222
>Episode IV A New Hope
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>70058921
>>70058981
>>70059052
>>70059222
>>70060531
>>70061018
The Only right answers ITT
>>70058921
Picture very much related
>>70061259
>Once Upon A Time in America
Based as fuck, my friend
Baneposting Squad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlqGvf4dYNY
We've got some pretty strong runner-ups ITT
>>70058921
MoS or BvS
>>70061351
> it conveys a great message
That it's easy to get away with murder?
Everything a film should be t b h
>>70061455
the definitive reddit answer. that movie is so overrated
You know its true
Pretty much everything is perfect
>>70059222
>not empire
>>70062087
Agreed you are one of it.
In my book serious posts are so far
>>70058921
>>70059222
>>70060531
>>70061018
>>70061049 depending on the way you interpret it
>>70061259
I'd like to throw pic related into the match. Because It's really not perfect regarding classical film making but it has something most movies don't: it pictures the whole biography of a person on many levels, it's highly philisophical and entertaining, it has some experimetal approaches without beint too pretentious.
>>70058921
>>70062267
>literally the same plot of The Fall of the Roman Empire and Ben-Hur but more violent and gritty
lolI need to sit on my ass and finish watching this
Pic related is is my pic
>>70062408
Hi plebbit
>>70059198
Agreed. Honestly the weakest aspect of the movie is its title, which continues to baffle me.
>>70058921
>>70059198
>>70061018
>>70061049
I disagree that a best of all time even exists, but these all deserve to be on the top tier together, along with pic related, spirited away, fantasia, and some more I don't care to list.
>>70058921
is it bad that I thought this picture was from the sandbox scene in EoE?
>>70062479
Bergman handled it of course more artistic and with more biographical enthusiasm. But when it comes to a "perfect" film I always try to consider how people who also want to be entertained think about it. That's why I mentioned Mr. Nobody.
>>70062679
Not at all. I am tired of the discussion on 4chan about Evangelion in general but I still think that it's a great piece of animated art. More like a collage of ideas where everyone can pick something he or she likes - hence unfocussed, but still great.
>>70062673
>fantasia
you're a niggermy nigger
>>70061630
The absolutely correct answer.
>>70063143
i had this poster as a kid, one day me and my brother were playing tug of war with a sheet and i suddenly let go and my brother went flying against the glass of the framed poster, it shattered and he has a scar on his hand now
i miss being a kid
>>70063339
>i had this poster as a kid,
You lucky fucker, I'd love to have that hanging on my wall
there are flawsalthough some are clearly intentionalso while i won't say "best", perhaps "greatest" simply for the sheer scope and elegance of such a simple story that touches on so many complex ideas.
major ups for really pushing, justifying, and even transcending the medium imo
>>70063441
then it's better not to tell you what my mother did with it
>>70058921
only one i agree so far
>>70059154
>>70059222
>>70061018
>>70062161
>>70062267
>>70062673
these are great, but best of all time?
>>70060531
>>70061259
>>70061455
>>70061630
>>70062087
overrated
>>70058981
True kaiju kino, has there ever been a better giant monster movie?
>>70063545
I don't get the criticism behind this film's story, it's clearly not trying to be the focus so why bother? I think it's because people watched the Theatrical versions with the monologues,but I don't know, any movie that can keep me interested is a good movie, and in the case of Blade Runner I get almost hypnotized by the film
>>70058921
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story
>>70059222
>>70061018
Its not nearly that good. You cant seriously believe this.
>>70058940
>muh baby
>>70063689
>these are great, but best of all time?
Like I said, it's stupid to even think of things in those terms in the first place. That being said, I think everything I referenced is a phenomenal work of art.
pls give me replies thanks
>star wars
this is the same shit as someone posting anime, except it wasn't even fucking drawn
kill yourselves manchildren
>>70061455
You and your dubs are very much correct.
My personal opinion
>>70058921
If somebody brought these up, they'd be acceptable
>>70059222
>>70060531
>>70060989
>>70061018
>>70061049
>>70061067
>>70061259
>>70061351
>>70061630
>>70062479
>>70063143
>>70063545
>>70067598
Good movies, but not even in the conversation for "best of all time"
>>70058981
>>70059154
>>70059198
>>70061245
>>70061455
>>70061679
>>70061727
>>70062087
>>70062161
>>70062267
>>70062673
>>70063386
>>70063917
I hope you're not serious
>>70062100
>>70062408
>>70063573
Most Beautiful Move of All Time:
probably Barry Lyndon, but it's subjective
Most Poignant (I guess just minimalist) Movie of All Time:
Taste of Cherry
>American movies
>>70068087
This deserves a mention!
>>70063143
Which one is better?
The 1940 or the 2000 version?
>>70069055
Obviously 1940, 2000 overdid the Main Character thing so bad it ruined several segments
That's not to say 1940 is perfect, It's really hard to sit through Beethoven's 5theven though that might just be something that happened with me.
>>70058921
>>70068633
This movie's so goddamn underrated.
>>70062673
>Spirited Away
I actually saw this today. It was___________shit___________
>most critically acclaimed film of all time
>>70070388
Mediocre tier opinion.
Spirited away is pretty good, but it's about 85% visuals. The same can be said for the majority of Miyazaki's movies.
>>70068633
based everything.
anyone who doesn't say blade runner is a pleb. you could literally make a trilogy out of batty's speeh at the end.
>>70070903
The stuff they had planned for it was great, like the many different prologues with Deckard killing a Replicant while he was making a soup and another one where Batty comes out of a pile of dead robots in a dump
It's a very rich film
>all these faggots who only post American garbage or animu
This board is embarrassing.
>>70062578
I think it's referring to the fact that there ill be blood on the road to success
>>70058921
>nyquil in film form
>"best"
hmmm
>>70062578
I get it now. Oil - The blood of the Earth. That's deep, man.
Lord of the rings: Return of the king
>>70071611
>implying some shit foreign art film is better than this
>not watching movies for entertainment
>liking things because you're a pretentious fag
You're an embarrassment. I just watched Midnight Run. That's also better than all your pretentious shit.
Easiest shit of my life.
>>70072470
this is one of the most amazing films i've ever seen
>>70072405
>midnight run
So, what is the bonus situation?
>>70063917
This or Au Hasard Balthazar
>>70072504
I've never been so, like, audible at the end of a movie. And I was alone.
>>70058921
It's 2001. Nothing else does so many things so well.
Other directors can match or exceed its parts, but none can match the final product.
>>70072528
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>>70063917
Where did Malick go so wrong with his new films? Badlands and this are better than anything he's spewed out with that meme cinematographer.
>>70072590
>does so many things so well
yea except telling a coherent story
>>70072405
This post was the plebbiest in the thread. Amazing. You don't deserve Lethal Weapon, you nigger
>>70072668
2001 is completely straightforward in regards to the story itself, the philosophy is what people dwell on.
>>70072668
Coherency is far too accessible, and appeals to the masses. This is a detriment to film, and art as a whole. Just look at the perpetual tripe being celebrated day in and out by, such as capeshit, GoT, etc.
>>70061067
Best list so far
>Battleship Potemkin
>The Passion of Joan of Arc
And these two are the highest contenders in it.
>>70072754
2001 isn't significantly less coherent than GoT.
>>70061018
This would be my answer. It's clearly relevant, the performances are great, and it has some amazing visuals.
>>70072786
Basically everything Tarkovsky has touched blows out Battleship Potemkin's asshole.
Marketa Lazarova is better ffs
>>70072660
He hasn't gone wrong anywhere. Plebs simply can't handle his continuous evolution and come up with these meme imbecilic arguments
>>70070457
The sheer evil of her father makes me rage and cry.
That fucking scene with the stuttering man.
>>70070526
Yeah I went through his entire body of work recently and I don't see what all the hype is about. They're very pretty but not much more than that.
>>70072732
>>70072794
>read critic interpretations
>every one offers a different viewpoint, sometimes even entirely conflicting
Sure, anon.
>>70068273
fellini is an overrated hack
>>70072837
>Basically everything Tarkovsky has touched blows out Battleship Potemkin's asshole.
You're conflating too many things here. And it's one of the reasons why these questions are dumb to begin with. Eisenstein is responsible for laying a lot of fundamental groundwork in the medium and conditioning the minds of artists who went on to use it. So any modern comparison will fall short to what he managed to technically achieve, as that technical achievement has gone on to inform all later works to some degree. So how can we measure these things fairly? In the end it's a fool's errand.
It's like saying Rembrandt blows Piero della Francesca out of the water. It makes no sense.
>>70072660
Obviously I disagree as pic related is my inclusion to the thread, and while I'll agree that To The Wonder was a bit weaker in comparison to The Thin Red Line and before, Knight of Cups was phenomenal
>>70072958
>mfw you actually think you're making a killer point
:^)
>>70072958
>human ancestors live on earth as animals
>they discover an alien marker which instills knowledge in them through either genetic modification or telepathic implantation
>humans discover one of these on the moon and above jupiter
>they send a space mission to jupiter
>the robot AI goes crazy in an allegorical side story
>the AI is put down, a guy goes through a portal and makes contact with aliums
>the starchild is the next evolution of the human race, much like the transition from ape to man at the beginning of the film
really, really simple
>>70073004
We're talking best films, not most influential films, faggot. Get the fuck out of here with you fool's errand shit.
>>70072958
>art shouldn't be interpreted
>>70073115
if you discount influence though on what the fuck other grounds do you use to pick what's best?
>>70073155audio-visual quality, writing, philosophical profundity, and actor performances
>>70072644
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>>70073155
All the usual things in which films are evaluated?
>>70072839
Evolution doesn't necessarily benefit the organism, and certainly not the majority outside of its direct influence, and so isn't an outright benefit. Take, say, some species of cave amphibian that have lost all vision: from our point of view, vision is important and losing it a detriment to life. So really, the stupid amphibian should have gotten itself outside of that cave before the lack of stimuli caused its vision to regress; now, it's stuck forever blind, living in a slimy underground cave. That's what Malick is, he's slowly going blind, and at his old age there's no turning back if not now.
1/3
>>70073202
>>70073195
then arguments give way to such bullshit as personal taste thus rendering themselves as, as that guy put it, fool's errands
>>70060531
I would love to see this made in modern day and have the internet go ape shit about cultural appropriation and white washing.
It would be a hoot.
2/3
>>70073294
Sure, if you're basic then it's a dead end.
3/3
>>70061611
>That trashman ending
What the fuck when did this happen?
>>70073294
>then arguments give way to such bullshit as personal taste
A film can be judged on its technical elements without referencing its influence.
That being said, you are fucking retarded if you think that personal choice won't always play a role in a person's selection of the best film of all time. It's a completely subjective title.
>>70073371
This one is way up there, but 2001 is still better.
>>70058921
>muh occult symbolism
>>70073115
>We're talking best films, not most influential films, faggot. Get the fuck out of here with you fool's errand shit.
You're a little pseud dipshit, mate.
>>70073422
No, you're the pretentious dipshit if you're gonna tell me that battleship potemkin is better than zerkalo, or even 2001.
Especially when you, or the other poster, are openly stating that the pick is based on influence, which is not the object of conversation.
>>70073417
>>70073359
>the Beatles are artistic achievements.
Holy shit when will everyone stop sucking the Beatles dicks so hard? Brian Wilson had more talent than all of the Beatles combines.
>>70063545
People will always crap on it for simplicity in the themes/narrative, but it will always be one of my absolute favorites. The acting is great, and it creates a mood that flows through all the sets and characters to an extent I've never seen in another movie. I just find that the entire world comes together so nicely. In every new set after the first scene, I find myself simultaneously being blown away by how interesting it is and completely expecting it, aka every visual aspect just 'makes sense'.
>>70073422
You're hopelessly stupid. Both are different categories and influence shouldn't be a factor in assessing the quality of the films themselves.
But, sure, anything out of your league is 'pseudo'.
>>70073485
a band doesn't need talent to be enjoyable, people like their style
plenty of talented musicians are horrible creators
>>70073375
>A film can be judged on its technical elements without referencing its influence
Which indirectly brings up influence. Take, say, Citizen Kane, where its influence has carried over to every film thereafter. So judging a film for its technical aspects while ignoring influence would falsely treat it higher and more original that it actually is.
>That being said
You're the only retard here if you rely on your biases to judge a film. You have to separate your consciousness, or not bother judging art at all; subjectivity is worthless.
>>70073359
they should really update the /lit/ memes
i mean where the fuck is infinite jest?
>>70072555
are you me?
>>70073560
So you judge a film by how much the director was copied?
Because that's one of the only objective metrics you can judge a film on, along with box office reception.
>>70063545
>>70073494
The problem is there are 3 total cuts, with the theatrical having a voiceover, and Scott's final directors cut having a literal blue tint to everything. He fucked up, it didn't stand a chance to be perfect given the turmoil it has been through.
>>70073654
>along with box office reception.
I can't tell if you're serious.
>>70073705
He's right though, in terms of actual objectivity there's not much else you can judge a film on.
>>70073705
That's one of the few truly objective metrics you can judge a film on.
If someone wants to say that Heavy Metal is the best movie ever made, you've got no objective recourse by your logic apart from box office reception and "influence". Any truly objective critique of a film relies on soulless metrics that betray the medium as an art.
>>70073656
I have noticed the blue green tint, but it doesn't bother me that much. Voice over is crap, and I haven't seen the other release just because I hear it's bad.
>>70062267
>propane tanks exist in ancient Rome
>everything is perfect
lol
>>70073480
>No, you're the pretentious dipshit if you're gonna tell me that battleship potemkin is better than zerkalo, or even 2001.
This is the complete opposite of what I was saying. Did you even read my post?
I am saying that it is an impossibility to ever reach an objective appraisal as having one great achievement in a form be "better" than a great prior achievement in the form: the prior achievement subsists within it and has either directly or indirectly brought about its creation.
>>70073511
>You're hopelessly stupid.
lol...
>>70073763
>Any truly objective critique of a film relies on soulless metrics that betray the medium as an art.
That's just so completely false that I don't even know where to begin my response. Sometimes camera people use innovative techniques no one else has tried. Sometimes the protagonist dies at the end of a movie. There are infinite ways to objectively assess a movie that only concern the actual movie.
>>70074001
I think it's pretty soulless to say that movies with dead protagonists are better than ones without.
>>70073359
Haha holy shit
>>70074051
That's not what I'm saying. It's an objective difference between movies. How you rank them according to differences is up to you. The same applies to box office. Who's to say THE soulless metric shouldn't be revenue/budget? Who's to say THE metric shouldn't be happiness caused in viewers? Just because you're talking about something objectively, doesn't negate the fact you're still being subjective what you choose to talk about.
>>70062673
My favorite. It gave me weird feels
I thought TDK was the best movie I'd ever seen when I first saw it.
>>70068087
What's good about it? I've had it downloaded for like two years but never watched it
>>70074428
Well, just fucking watch it
>>70063886
>has there ever been a better giant monster movie?
Vs Biollante
Gamera 2 & 3
Certainly not the best.
Merely best of its kind.
>>70058921
Persona is objectively the GOAT film
2001, Persona, Man With A Movie Camera and the list doesn't go on so much. Few, very few films could hold this title
