They seriously need to recast the part of Euron Greyjoy. Literally the worst British accent in the history of series. Why not just cast a British actor instead of a Dane.
they literally do not care
nobody wants to make the show anymore
>>69990669
Let's murderem!!! (farts)
He's not even close to the handsome Euron that I always imagined.
Also
>no eyepatch
>>69990669
I agree. Dan Harmon should stick to writing
>>69990669
>english accent
I don't even know why these faggots have any english accents to begin with since the books are written by an american and they use american english. I don't remember anyone in the books saying shit like bugger this, it has always been fuck.
>raiding culture inspired by saxons/danes
>it's a problem that he has a danish accent
Someone is trolling or doesn't know their history
>>69990669
The actor is fine. The writing, however, isn't.
>Now, lets go MURDER my niece and nephew
That was the dumbest fucking line.
>>69992647
American accents in anything remotely close to a Medieval setting are really jarring.
>>69990669
It doesn't matter anymore. The show is the show, it's not meant to be good. Just watch it and try to be entertained.
>>69992779
Suck a dick faggot. Hearing britfags talk pisses me off regardless of timeline. It pisses me off especially when it related to medieval times because it implies brits were the only people that existed then and we know that's not fact.
>>69990669
the most underwhelming piece of shit after the "great revelation of the white walkers" (that seriously fucked up the shole show for me) was this faggot
>>69993148
I didn't say anything about British accents, just that American accents in medieval based settings are jarring.
Jesus christ you're defensive.
>>69990669
He's the only character who I felt was poorly cast and terribly written.
I get they need to cut to the chase cause Ironbabbies are fucking boring without the rest of the plot, but goddamn.
>>69993148
It's a show based on a book series that's heavily influenced by British history.
If it really bothers you that much i'd really consider counselling if i was you.
>>69993148
fuck off cunt just admit you have the worst accent in the world and no one wants to hear it.
>Brits think somebody from the 1600's sounded like they do now.
lmao
>>69992779
Well I find British accents in sci fi jarring yet I see that shit anyway. If it's an American fantasy production then it should be American accent.
>>69993148
Jesus dude relax. It's an accent, get over it. If you care this much maybe kill yourself
I hate Americans so much.
>>69993218
game of thrones on tv sucks ass.
the best way to experience GOT is to listen to the audiobooks read by roy dotrice
example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JU53dfWE8w
I hate when they recast, but this guy sucks. He looks like a chubby hipster, not good looking or crazy or a badass.
>>69992647
I read a storm of swords a few weeks ago and the hound said bugger instead of fuck all the time.
>>69993227
>no one wants to hear it.
Guess what faggot, when someone in the world is learning English, chances are they are learning it with an American accent. If you don't like hearing an American accent then maybe you should fuck off from /tv/, since Hollywood dominates films and television. Go to post your brit twit bullshit on some gay ass Dr Who blog that nobody reads. Dumb limey faggot
>>69993303
instead of casting this guy or someone with this kind of presence, they cast that nuMale faggot
>I have a dick I'll fuck her, she has dragons but I have ships made of wood.
>>69993227
And yet all you faggots from brit land do you best to hide you shitty accents in hollywood.
>>69993224
>inspired by a French book
>based on a fictional French and British history
I'm sure the French had british accents as well.
i haven't read the books but from what i understand isn't euron supposed to be this handsome, eyepatch touting, rogue who is pretty much like sinbad? seen it all, knows just about everything there is to know, good with the ladies, wise
this dude just seems like some rude faggot
>>69992779
American accents are closer to how they spoke in medieval england then the current english accent.
>>69992647
Maybe Americans should learn how to act then lol
He's got the resemblance to Theon and plenty of Ironborn swagger, but he's sure as shit not Euron.
Would've worked well as one of Theon and Asha's brothers in a rebellion flashback though.
that thread number
>guy is suppose to be muh suave triple agent iron island bad boy.
>walks on set, everyone on the island has his backs.
>talks about giving mother of dragons an ovary bashing with his iron rod of wrath.
>explains why they lost before and why they will lose in the future without him.
whats hilarious to me is why these brain dead viewers don't understand why this man is the most capable and best leader for the iron islands AS HE PROCLAIMED HE WAS INFRONT OF HIS DIPSHIT FAMILY.
hes gonna breed dany as well and cuck both chorah and that other muslim slaver dweeb.
This guy is literally making GOT great again.
>>69990669
Terrible fucking casting he looks like a fat drunk from Texas and he mumbles his words.
Usually they don't fuck up this badly but I guess they don't care anymore. In the end, it hardly matters, as Euron is just going to die very soon. Still would have been nice to see him have charisma and a presence and not just be your drunk redneck Uncle.
I can't recall but is the Ironborn's crown as shitty as the one they have in the show?
>>69990669
Joshua Jackson is Danish?
I guess that explains how he got Diane Krüger.
German bitches love the Danish dong.
>>69993378
Nah man, they nailed the casting the faggot from Cruel Intentions
>>69993408
>i haven't read the books but from what i understand isn't euron supposed to be this handsome, eyepatch touting, rogue who is pretty much like sinbad? seen it all, knows just about everything there is to know, good with the ladies, wise
>this dude just seems like some rude faggot
in the books he was a psychopath that done shit beyond belief, he alone made people shiver in fear since he had no boundaries, think roose bolton but with more world experience, >>69993378 will be probably the most faithful depiction of how he was portrayed.
>>69993378
No idea who this is but he definitely should have had the part, that guy looks like a fucking swag pirate.
>>69993472
>This guy is literally making GOT great again.
the character would have, the actor however is underwhelming and destroyed the whole aura that euron the fucking ironborn legend would portray.
>>69993418
>implying they can't act
>implying dry as fuck brit actors are good
>implying brits are entertaining
ell alo gobna
>>69990669
Wait, if Theon and Yara had enough men behind them to jack like a hundred ships, why didn't they just use them to slaughter everyone at Euron's baptism thing?
Why the fuck would you run with that kind of support?
>>69990669
I didn't realize the series was set in Britain, anon.
>>69993378
jason isaacs as euron is spot on, however chris is too high tier of an actor to play in GoT. should had used him as an orientation what kind of actor to cast though
>>69993549
>Dance
>>69993659
fuck, that look in the eyes. that's my euron.
>>69992199
or purple lips from all his drinking
His accent was so out of place, why did they cast him? Just go to London and take your pick with stage actors.
>WHERE ARE MY NIECE AND NEPHEW?
>LETS GO MURDER THEM!
Best line of the series.
His British accent is almost as bad as Jaime's
>>69993590
another question to ask is why did they not burn the remaining ships? that one guy said they "took the best ships," as to imply there is still some left - they should've destroyed anything they couldn't take
>>69993475
It's made out of driftwood alright. I'm not sure it LOOKS like a bunch of driftwood stuck together though...
>>69993148
youre a fucking joke dude. plus do some research, the heavy american accent developed very late in english language history. go suck trump's you dummy
>>69993819
*trump's dick
>>69993251
>americans think the 1600's is the medieval period.
>>69993333
>>69992647
Bugger is used quite a lot in the books
>Others bugger you!
It's based off the Lancaster/Yorkshire war of the roses
>>69993873
>deflecting
he is a shitty euron but i want to sit on his dick
>>69994262
The only good thing about him is his big cock, so might as well.
>>69990669
>male character
no, they dont give a shit about him
>>69993251
No one thinks that though
It's just that Britain is an older country, so whatever the British accents are, that's what people associate with the past. America is not seen as having any meaningful connection with the mediaeval period, and the perception of American accents is the same
Not to mention how heavily GoT draws on British history, literature, and mythology
>>69993955
>the grand old duke of york who had 10 000 men is Ned Stark
>>69993378
That teardrop tattoo though. That means hooker in Essos.
>>69993706
wasn't that from drinking that shit the warlocks drank?
>>69990669
I honestly dont understand why you bookfag virgins are all asspained about Euron.
I think the actor is great and has a gravitas to him. If anything, blame D&D's shit writing. Not the actor. He's doing the best he can with a shit dialogue that handed to him.
Get over it, you fucking nerds.
He's a great on Borgen, but he doesn't play a cartoon villain in that series
he looks younger than theon
>>69992647
You do know that the "American" accent was the normal accent for the English for many centuries, right? The "British" accent that we associate with the area today was a result of the aristocracy looking for a way to distinguish itself from the lower classes, so they made up a ridiculous sounding accent to accompany their goofy way of dressing. As everybody knows, the poor imitate the rich, and the accent stuck.
>>69994762
ive heard this a thousand times but never have i seen any evidence to the claim
Why doesn't he just speak with his normal accent?
>implying
The only good part of Euron was his coronation. I'm happy they finally showed Ironbabies giving themselves brain damage.
Show Euron a shit. Placeholder villain for Dany to battle this season. DnD don't care about him.
>>69994800
http://www.livescience.com/33652-americans-brits-accents.html
>>69994555
yea, he's always drinking that shit. i think its called shade of the evening if i recall
Euron sucks because he's some weird Victarion/Euron Frankenborn monstrosity.
Dabid can't keep getting away with this.
>>69990669
looks like a fucking pussy.
why no Mads
why no literally anyone who looks intimidating
>>69994817
he's dutch he cant speak normal English
>>69990669
Wasnt there a fucking unobtainable Horn of some type that he was chasing in the books? Didn't he actually get it in the books? Why skip that in the show?
>they keep calling the Seastone Chair the Salt Throne
ONE FUCKING JOB.
They should start calling the Iron Throne the Sword Chair too.
>>69995058
why have they done anything theyve done past season 1.
its all been shit. well produced, high budget, poorly written shit
>>69995058
he comes into the kingsmoot with these crazy people and one blows a horn until he dies which gets everyone attention. Euron said he got it in the ruins of Valyria then he gives it to Victarion who is going to use it in slavers bay to call the dragons
>>69995133
even Dany's storyline seems to have slowed down to a crawl.
Bet she wont even get to Westeros til finale of S7
>>69994896
Lol the only thing that was 'retained' is rhotic speech.
That article even says that northern english accents have conserved their traditional pronunciation in the same way that the americans have.
Do you think people from northern england sound anything like americans?
>>69990669
It's ok, he's going to die soon, he signed his death warrant by saying "I'm going to give Dany my big fat cock." So he's gonna build a fuckton of ships, travel to Dany, be real rapey toward her, get killed and have his fleet stolen so Dany can travel to the mainland.
It's the most obviously telegraphed shit ever.
>>69995455
except asha (yara w/e) and theon are already going to do that with the ships they stole.
>>69995389
>It was around the time of the American Revolution that non-rhotic speech came into use among the upper class in southern England, in and around London.
>this shift occurred because people of low birth rank who had become wealthy during the Industrial Revolution were seeking ways to distinguish themselves from other commoners; they cultivated the prestigious non-rhotic pronunciation in order to demonstrate their new upper-class status.
>The lofty manner of speech developed by these specialists gradually became standardized — it is officially called "Received Pronunciation" — and it spread across Britain.
The way a large part of the English population speaks today is largely from the mimicry of the upper class' goofy speech that evolved from them trying to distinguish themselves from the lower economic and social groups. Before that time, most parts of both England and the American Colonies spoke with similar accent, the "American" one that we hear today.
>>69995504
Dany and her army probably can't fit on only two boats, but I'm sure they'll come into play somehow
>>69995557
>the 'american' one
Literally most of the 13 colonies have unique accents today. What in your mind is the 'american' accent?
The idea that colonial americans spoke like Mel Gibson in the Patriot is a meme bro. There are dozens of american accents, and even more regional british ones. The areas that have retained most of their originating accents sound like bucolic English accents more than they sound like what you probably think of as american.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIZgw09CG9E
Here's what a retained accent in america sounds like. Does that remind you more of america or england?
Why the fuck doesn't Euron have an eyepatch?
And why the FUCK did they ditch Victarion for the show? He's my favorite character!
![tumblr_lvwqefA9a41qa7vsgo2_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ae0RVjm.jpg "tumblr_lvwqefA9a41qa7vsgo2_1280[1].jpg")
tfw
>>69995559
they took the whole fleet. regardless i don't think with the addition of new dothraki they'll fit
Mads is one of the ugliest actors I've ever seen. His performances are ok I guess, but I've never understood the hardon that all of you faggots have for him. He's some ugly fuck, that's it.
>>69996077
We're not looking for a Jamie Lannister replacement here
>>69990669
at least give him the patch
>>69990669
Euron is quite literally the worst casting in the entire show. When I read the books I imagined him as a badass sea god. Not a chubby babyface gay beard two eyed douchebag.
>>69995557
Damn you got fucking cucked into oblivion
>>69995097
They called in the Seastone Chair back in the early seasons, too.
>>69993590
I would imagine the baptism thing had pretty good security, and the other ships were guarded as well. I'd imagine the best ships were guarded too, but if I have limited power and I'm gonna jack something by force, it'd be the best shit I can get.
>>69990669
I pictured him a lot like blackbeard; big beard with burning embers twisted into the ends, eyepatch, super menacing, blue streaks of warpaint on face. And a big guy too, big and menacing.
This guy is nothing like that. It an awful casting mistake.
>>69992199
That looks like daario with an eyepatch
>>69993472
By wife-ing some coalburner on another continent and ferrying her Dothraki to the 7 kingdoms.
Yeah nah fuck off.
>character is meant to be like a Viking version of Big Boss
>make him look like Theon's beta little brother
Fuck this show, switching to the books today.
>>69995133
>war of the 5 kings turns into war of the 6 kings where both sides have dragons
>>69993481
Germans bitches just love foreign cock
>>69990669
They really should have had him as Victarion and any one of >>69993378 >>69993659 >>69994831 or even the Daario= Euron thing as Euron.
>>69993148
The entire series is set in an area based on medieval Europe, you twatburger. Do you expect knights to talk in a redneck accent or something?
>>69990669
The accent is the least of this characters problems. He's literally the worst thing I've seen in the show outside of the sand snakes.
Theon: "Yara deserves the crown because she's demonstrated to be the only competent leader here while you've been gallivanting around the world"
Euron: "Lol you're using big words like a faggot. Also I have a big cock!"
Jesus fucking Chirst. It's like watching an autistic child/mental invalid dudebro argue on the playground.
>>69995789
my backwoods trash relatives from maine all sound like theyre speaking british or whatever the fuck english while having a stroke.
>>69999896
Sound like true American patriots who you should be proud to have sprung from, sonny jim.
>>69994759
Theon is supposed to look older than his age.
In the books his hair is gray and falling out and he can barely stand up/walk around. He's been malnourished and abused for a long time.
>>69993290
All he does is drone on. I know that works if you're looking for "le grampa at my bedside1 XD", but I prefer narrators who actually act instead of drone.
>>69999395
>mental invalid
Well, the Ironborn are pretty retarded. They're in a perfect position to dominate trade between the North, Lannisport and Oldtown, but instead they hold on to their rape and pillage traditions even after they lost the ability to rape and pillage. They prefer sitting on their shitty islands whining about how unfair life is instead of, you know, using their marine traditions to become the Braavos of Westeros.
In the books, Asha points out as much, by saying the war needs to stop being about being allowed to rape and pillage, and start being about getting some Lebensraum in more fertile areas. The Ironborn laugh her out because "we dont sow!!". D&D mess this up too, having Asha's "Let's build an economy" turn into book-Victarion's "Let's continue to waste our men at a pointless and lost Rape & Pillage war!". Then they give Euron Victarion's "let's marry Dany instead of just stealing her dragons" plan for some reason. GRRM probably had that horn for a reason, D&D, maybe you shouldn't cut everything interesting.
>>69997206
Heh
>“Who knows more of gods than I? Horse gods and fire gods, gods made of gold with gemstone eyes, gods carved of cedar wood, gods chiseled into mountains, gods of empty air... I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers, and shed the blood of goats and bulls and children in their names. And I have heard the prayers, in half a hundred tongues. Cure my withered leg, make the maiden love me, grant me a healthy son. Save me, succor me, make me wealthy... protect me! Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs inside my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sellswords at my door. Protect me from the Silence." He laughed. "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! You serve one god, Damphair, but I have served ten thousand. From Ib to Asshai, when men see my sails, they pray.”
This literally would have been perfect to say at the kingsmoot but instead they wasted like two sentences during his shitty talk with Balon. And why doesn't he have an eye patch? It's seems like a really stupid change that DnD just did because they could.
>>69993712
I dont get why everyones so up in arms about the eyepatch
Theres very little characters in the show that they got correct with easy to fix details.
Why was there even a Kingsmoot? Theon is standing right there. Been touted as "Balons last living heir" since Season 1, and as soon as Balon dies they just forget about it?
In the books Eurons kingship would be illegal if they found out Theon was actually alive.
>>70002403
>And why doesn't he have an eye patch
It's probable that this was something Asbæk requested. Loads of actors refuse to work if their costumes are a bit uncomfortable or inconvenient, or if they feel it "impairs" their "ability".
Just look at how Bloodraven turned from "man who became a tree" to "guy who sat in a chair behind some roots" because Max von Sydow refused any costume that would require more than ten minutes of makeup.
Source: I did the lighting for a domestic TV show once. Literal nobody actors who did nothing but complain and demand.
>>70002538
>Literal nobody actors who did nothing but complain and demand.
Got any cool stories? And if anything this makes me give some props for Nikolaj for wearing his fake hand.
>>70002511
Nah, Theon directly inheriting would be more illegal. Iron Islands "constitution" seems to be that the priests are officially supposed to permit each heir to inherit, and they should only do so after a Kingsmoot. Strong kings with strong heirs are able to bypass this, as they did in real life, but a weak or failed king with a weak heir (which Theon certainly is by now) would probably be pushed away in favour of a council.
Medieval history was far less "first son always inherits the throne" than anyone thinks. Euron (strong and from the appropriate bloodline) coming in to push his claim against Asha (strong, appropriate bloodline, female) makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense is everybody apparently not realising that Euron showing up the day after his brother-king who banished him dies is somewhat suspicious.
>>69999205
>It's set in the Middle Ages so they should talk in my countries accent not yours even though said language didn't even exist back then
This whole argument you're all having is retarded.
>>70002629
Nikolaj only had to do that for half a season before it was just a glove though
>>70002538
>mfw this reminds me of them taking Michaels tattoos off in prison break because the actor didn't want to put them on
>mystique walks around a as jlaw because she doesn't want to do makeup
Fucking actors!!!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>70002826
And then there is based Ron Perlman. What a legend.
the british accent meme needs to die. feel like im watching downtown abbey sometimes and it completely takes me out of the show
would have also helped with casting and we wouldnt be stuck with ishitthequeen emilia clarke
>>70002511
It wouldn't be illegal, but they'd basically be a do-over and they'd have to have the Kingsmoot again since Theon wasn't present the first time, and by law as Balon's son he'd have to be there. I'm 90% sure that's Asha's plan in the books, to find Theon and use him to redo the Kingsmoot, it's her only hope of upsetting Euron's plans.
>>70002511
The Kings of the Iron Islands have historically been chosen by a Kingsmoot. Direct inheritance is a recent development which the Priests of the Drowned God resent and wish to reverse. Balon and the Greyjoy line had never been kings, only lords. When Balon died, the ironborn needed a new king for the first time in centuries, and Aeron, a very influential Drowned Priest, took the opportunity to reinstate their holy Kingsmoot.
The only person who really failed to benefit from that would be Theon, but Theon has no friends on the Isles and doesn't want to be king anyway. Anyone else who wants a claim should be supporting the Kingsmoot because they need it to seize the Driftwood Crown.
>>70002872
Ron is classically trained and has been in the business for a long time, and working Guillermo has probably given him a lot of respect for proper makeup and costuming.
>>70002896
Many of the best actors on the show, like Dance and Dillane, come from the old English tradition. Casting a bunch of Americans wouldn't have made the show better (although we could have avoided Tyrion's shitty accent)
>>70002872
yeah bro I'm sure he put the makeup on for fun a lot of the time even if he didn't have any scenes to shoot.
>>69992647
Fuck is an English word created by Englishmen for use in the English language.
>>70002633
It doesn't make sense in the show because he was already at Pyke and shoved Balon off a bridge. But apparently nobody saw his (literally world-famous and instantly recognizable) longship in the harbor, nor did any guards or servants see him walk all the way up to that bridge. Just another case of empty castles in this show.
In the books Balon fell off the bridge mysteriously in a storm and Euron actually didn't arrive until after that fact, but it's heavily implied he had something to do with it due to all the sorcery shit associated with him (like having warlocks in his crew). Of course they were suspicious of him in the books but they had no way to prove anything: he hadn't even been at Pyke when Balon died, and not only that they couldn't even hold his banishment against him because by the time he arrived the man who banished him was dead and his word no longer law.
>>69994762
Is this true or are you memeing?
And how could this even be proven short of inventing a time machine?
COCK COCK COCK
LET'S GO MURDER THEM
ARE YOU LAUGHING YET, /TV/?
>>70003202
>Lmao let's go murder my blood relatives
>you cool with that, priest of the Drowned God who frowns on kinslaying?
>>69990669
>Euron Greyjoy
thats wet ramsay u dope
>>69993148
Americans didn't exist in medieval times though. The good old days.
>Literally the only real law the Ironborn have is not killing each other
>Ironborn ganking each other constantly
>"I KILLED MY BROTHER, LET'S KILL HIS CHILDREN AS WELL"
>>69993203
Everyone I know is always saying "oh my God did you see GoT? What an ending". I've been pretty underwhelmed by every episode though it is better than the travesty that was season 5.
>>70003284
Kinslaying all over the place this season, apparently D&D think breaking the same taboo 3 times counts as shock value when all it does is diminish its power when there's zero consequences for it. In the books characters went a long way to avoid the stain of kinslaying, and Tyrion was a complete wreck for a large part of book 5 for having murdered his own father.
>>70003317
>acknowledging the reactions of the vast majority of people while discussing something in the 4chan echo chamber
REEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
>>69993409
if by slurring every word and scratching your dick after a sentence you mean 'closer to' then I guess you're correct
>>70002967
No, they weren't. There wasn't a Kingsmoot for thousands of years. The reason they held one was because there was no male heir and no one wanted Asha.
>there's actually Danes that's pro-Pilou
slå jer selv ihjel, i patetiske svanser
>>69992647
>Bugger the king
-The Hound
>>70003369
And also the Damphair was pretty much running things and wanted to do a traditionalist revival of Ironborn culture. But I don't think the show even as Aeron Greyjoy in it.
>>69993549
Are you upset that a load of you American shows have brits in them?
>>70003369
It's just Aeron and the priests being opportunistic
>>70002511
Kings are chosen via the Kingsmoot, not inheiritance.
In the books Eurons kingship would be deemed illegal because you cannot hold the kingsmoot while the former kings Heir is away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuDKS_sXudA
x
D
>>70002629
>Got any cool stories?
I'm afraid I don't really have any one incident that would make a spectacular story. It was a constant barrage of small things and blaming people for something someone else was obviously responsible for, constant demands to change things I had no authority over, not ever listening to anyone, and at one point trying to get me fired for politely asking them if they'd mind moving their stuff a few meters to the side.
Not all of them were like that, of course. The male lead and most of the recurring guys were perfectly nice people, but the female lead and one of the recurring guys were absolute horrors. If anything happened, or even if nothing happened, they'd be calling everyone idiots and do their best to ruin our days. At one point the lead actress demanded the company pay to bring in a private chef for her because the rest of us eating sandwiches with salami that we'd brought ourselves was offending her vegan sensibilities. She practically bit the head off her assistant (she had one, somehow) because he was unable to telepathically know when she wanted a cappuccino. You'd expect this kind of shit from J-Lo, but this was a forty-five year old woman who had been "in acting" for thirty years and held a job in it for about two of those years.
We were filthy peasant stagehands who had been there since four in the morning setting everything up, while they were masterrace actors whose coffee was a minute late.
>>70003369
The reason it was held was because the Damphair wanted to do everything in his power to avoid Euron getting the crown
>>70003410
No, that is all wrong.
>>69995240
Dany just seems like a plot point they don't need yet so they're just keeping her somewhere until then.
>>70003396
>>70003407
Yeah, that too. I should have said main reason.
>>69990669
Just except Euron to be completely different next season much like happened to Daario. I was actually wondering who the fuck Daario was with the new actor.
>>69993333
trip quad speaks truth
>>70003435
Yeah, that is a major factor, but if Theon wasn't absent in the book like in the show then he would have just pushed for him to inherit as he already was going to.
>>69994762
buuuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllshit.
old and middle English are well documented.
I suggest googling before parroting old memes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMkuUADWW2A
>>70003472
I think that was a good change though. Daario is supposed to be attractive, and the new guy is way less weird-looking than the previous guy.
He's also supposed to have blue hair and a glorious moustache, but I guess we can't expect everything.
>>69997031
The baptism clearly had a dozen or so people at most.
Theon and Yara apparently had an army and it didn't look like they took those ships by force or else that wouldn't caused a commotion.
>>70003410
The ironborn haven't had kings since they were conquered by the Targaryens. Balon was the first ironborn to declare himself king in a long time. The kingsmoot is a very old tradition in the Iron Islands and is closely tied to their religious practices, which is why it was suggested by Aeron Damphair. Hence his constant bitching about "NO GODLESS MAN MAY SIT THE SEASTONE CHAIR" (salt throne? fuck off D&D).
>>70003507
No. They were pushing for Victarion to inherit, Theon was a stranger in the Islands and the Ironmen would have sooner chosen Asha over him.
>>70003507
Damphair wouldn't want a eunuch to inherit.
The real question is why everyone seems to know Theon has been castrated. In the books that knowledge seems restricted to Asha, Balon, Roose and Ramsay, and for good reason. If word got out, the Boltons wouldn't be able to use him as a puppet Iron King, and the Greyjoy family would be humiliated by the last son of Balon being castrated by the enemy. Theon himself would certainly try and keep it a secret as well, he'd be well aware any political clout he might have as the lawful heir would go away the moment word got out that he can't father an heir.
>>70003507
Nobody gave a shit about Theon. Victarion was Aeron's favorite to inherit. He's family, he's pious, and he's ruthlessly strong. Most importantly he fucking hates Euron.
The only person in the Iron Islands who gave a single salty fuck about Theon's "rights" was Asha, because they were a loophole she could exploit to undo Euron's coronation.
Legitimacy rules of the Ironborn don't make any sense. In S2 Theon was looked upon and mocked by even mere sailors for his lack of experience as a sea raider.
But now, all of the sudden, they come up with "hurr hurr there's Balon's last son". Why should they give a shit, honestly? I thought they stuck to meritocracy, so they shouldn't have cared about this whiny, dickless bitchface whose only accomplishment was getting captured.
>>70003559
They thought Theon was dead. All we know is he was the lawful heir, we don't know exactly what would have happened.
>>70003588
Would it be Damphair's decision? He is the lawful heir. Theon could tell Damphair to fuck himself.
>>70003617
No one gave a shit about Theon because they all think he is dead.
>>69993408
Who here /exjw/?
>>70003625
In s2 they were still following the books fairly close, and in the books the Ironborn thought of Theon as a soft, spoiled cunt. But by season 6 they've completely divorced from the books and need Theon to be important now that they've got him away from Ramsay, so they completely change the character of the Ironborn.
>>70003519
It was a good change. I was just so out of it because they didn't look alike at all.
>>70003652
They didn't give a fuck about him when he was alive. Balon himself barely gave a shit about him when he arrived back at Pyke. He was given a menial task in the war to keep him out of the way since nobody trusted him or wanted to sail with him. That's why he went full retard and took Winterfell, because he desperately wanted to be taken seriously and be acknowledged.
But even that only earned him scorn. Also no, under the laws the Kingsmoot that Aeron dug up Theon doesn't have "rights" to the throne at all, he merely as the lesser right of presenting his claim at the moot. As the son of the previous king he has to be present for the kingsmoot for it to be legitimate.
>>70003652
>Would it be Damphair's decision
The Ironborn have a tradition called Kingsmoot. It basically declares that, after a king dies, all captains are allowed to cast their votes for who the next king should be. Kind of like how, in medieval Europe, councils of noblemen would frequently decide the next king.
The Kingsmoot is a tradition that comes from the Drowned God religion, of which Damphair is apparently some kind of pope. So yes, Damphair would have a say. He wouldn't have the decision, not unanimously, but it seems reasonable to expect his opinion to hold a lot of influence over the more religious captains at the moot. Damphair's favoured candidate is Victation, and his absolutely least favoured candidate is Euron, who seems to have raped him when they were children. Damphair would support Theon over Euron, but probably not over Victarion, because Victarion is everything his religion says a man should be. Strong, loud, rapacious and an expert pillager, with absolutely no intent whatsoever of, you know, sowing the seeds for a sustainable society.
>>70003753
>>70003766
Again, the Kingsmoot was out of practice for over a thousand years. I feel like you guys aren't understanding that.
>>70003519
>He's also supposed to have blue hair and a glorious moustache, but I guess we can't expect everything.
Moustaches look incredibly silly IRL. only in the realm of books they are passable. Dothrakis, according to the books, are supposed to wear ridiculous mustachios too. But come on, it's just plainly silly and would appear as a dumb Mongol parody.
>>70003813
The monarchy had been dead for centuries. The priests had the opportunity to bring the Kingsmoot back, just like Balon brought the monarchy back, and they took it.
>>70003813
I understand it just fine. The kingsmoot only happened because Damphair wanted it to happen, he was running things. The fact that on his assertion alone they decided to hold a kingsmoot shows how much sway he has among the Ironborn. It was Damphair's insistence that they choose the next king via Kingsmoot because he figured it would be a lock to get his brother Vicky chosen, or at the very least a candidate he could approve of.
>>70003753
>That's why he went full retard and took Winterfell, because he desperately wanted to be taken seriously and be acknowledged.
>But even that only earned him scorn
Well, not entirely true. Taking Winterfell was a genius move. But what he should have done then is taken the captive Starks back to Pyke and sacked the castle. Asha explains as much to him. He could have gone home as the hero who used a clever gambit to capture VIPs and sacked the enemy HQ, but instead he tried to hold onto one of the largest castles in Westeros with a dozen demoralised men without any supply lines or reinforcements.
If only he'd gone home right away he would have earned loads of respect, but he was too dumb to realise that.
>>70003813
The Kingsmoot was out of practice because the Hoare's disbanded it, which the Ironborn hated, and after that because there was no Iron King, just Targaryens. The Kingsmoot is a requirement from the Drowned God religion, which is very strong in the Iron Islands. Reviving it is a pretty obvious thing, now that they have a new Iron King.
lol
>>70003882
If you had told me they would manage to fuck up a pirate sorcerer character I wouldn't have believed it. Fucking D&D they really outdid themselves.
>>70003828
I know, I know. But you've got to admit that watching Dany pine for pic would be hilarious.
>>70003912
>fuck up a character with villainous tendencies and a charismatic personality/presence
>fuck up a character that isn't one dimensional
you're right, this is truly out of character behavior for the dungeons and dragons
>>69994831
TOO OLD
>>70003866
I think it is easier to have an ancient election practice when the inheritance is all fucked, as was the case. And in the show Balon even refers to Yara as his heir. Probably best to not think about it too hard, because it doesn't make sense.
>>70003840
The monarchy was dead for 300 years. The Kingsmoot was dead for 2-4 thousand years.
>>70003869
The Hoare's didn't abolish it, it was gone long before them when the Greyiron's got rid of it and killed everyone at the last Kingsmoot.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Kingsmoot
They went 2-4 thousand years without a Kingsmoot. Doesn't seem to be that important to the Drowned God faith.
>>69994831
>no purple lips
>>69994762
This is bullshit.
Literally just the white Ameriburger version of 'We was kangz and sheit'
>>70003931
I agree. I think Daario's traditionally hot show appearance makes it too easy to relate to Daenerys in the show. In the book. Dany is a 14-15 year old obsessing over a fucking clown, and you're supposed to see that as a manifestation of her immature naivete.
>>70004092
They were both gone for generations, and Aeron used his influence to shape the new line of Kings to his liking. How is that so hard to understand?
>>70004092
Fair enough, it's been a while since I read World of Ice & Fire.
Reinstating the Kingsmoot is still an obvious powergrab for the church, and Damphair going for it is perfectly in character. He loves the Drowned God, and with the exception of Euron, his family, and a kingsmoot would strengthen both (Victarion inheriting instead of Asha).
>>69993481
I thought he was Obi wan on fringe.
>>70004165
I never disputed that. I was more disputing the multiple people trying to say that the Kingsmoot was the normal law of the land.
>Got hyped for Euron from bookfags
>Its some doughey nerd with pubes glued to his face
>>70004130
You know, the more and more I read the books the more I come to conclusion that D&D did a really pretty good job at adopting characters to the screen (in the earlier seasons, of course).
I got to the chapter of Dany's wedding and I almost broke out in laughter. Up to this point it was consistently stated she was terrified by her fate and Khal Drogo. And when she cried while being fucked in the show, it was believable.
But how GRRM made it in the book is more akin to Tarzan and Jane's story aka 'a beauty and a handsome savage'.
>>69993352
Go and pay for your healthcare, Joe.
>>70004289
That makes sense until the show still has Dany fall in love with Drogo afterwards. Dany coming to enjoy living among the Dothraki made more sense when George wrote it
>>69995789
kind of sounds likea dutchman wo had a stroke trying to speak English while being drunk and chewing on some mashed potatoes.
>>70004289
Or let's take Cat. My gosh, what a hateful bitch she is. It's understandable if she's constraint about Jon but to be a fucking Cinderella's stepmother? If D&D were that fateful to the book, hardly anyone would be sympathetic to her.
>>69994831
Sick of his ugly face and shitty voice cropping up everywhere desu.
I liked his casting, the writing is just so bad tbqh.
They probably offered Mads the role and he rejected it.
>>70004353
That's the whole point of George's writing style though, even the "good guy" characters have significant flaws
>>70004238
>trying to say that the Kingsmoot was the normal law of the land
None of us were, we were trying to say that it was a well-established practice before and that the Drowned God priests trying to revive it made perfect sense.
>>70002538
And yet Sam Jackson didn't take his eyepatch off until winter soldier and that was only for a few seconds.
>>70004366
He's awesome. And his brother too.
>>70004380
Well, I'm pretty heavy influenced by show acting. Honestly, McElhatton's take on Roose is much more grounded, believable and yet terrifying than the book's version.
GRRM is far from being flawless than it comes to characterization or character's description (but of course I don't deny his heroes are multifaceted).
>>70004418
They kind of were.
>>70004455
Some of the actors are really great and enhance their characters, I agree with you there. But Benioff and Weiss are objectively inferior writers as compared to Martin. In general, the further they go off the source material, the worse the show becomes.
>>70004353
You type like a faggot. Stop.
>>70004563
Huh?
>>70004521
>In general, the further they go off the source material, the worse the show becomes.
Unquestionable.
Plus, what about Littlefinger? His "I'm so sorry" was so ridiculous and overacted, that it felt more appropriate to a parody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OaS4gC58D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9lHe6Oelj4
>>70004652
Littlefinger isn't supposed to be good at saying "I'm sorry", because he's a massive narcissist. The overacting there makes sense for the character.
I think it's a testament to how amazing GoT is that the lowest ranking episode has a 7.8 and then it shoots up to 8.4 from there.
Even the worst episodes are ranked very high.
Why not use your time wisely and enjoy the greatest show on television instead if spending that same amount of time to hate on it?
>>70004713
Does it?
The whole point was to persuade her in his ingenuity, not to make it look like a farce.
>>70004786
He's not a perfect actor. He's a great schemer and a great actor when it comes to looking innocent.
But in this case there's no way he can convince Sansa he had nothing to do with it, so he has to play contrite. He can't do that, because he can't understand himself doing anything wrong, the entire world is just other people doing wrongs against him. Just look at how he repressed his duel for Cat's heart and the latter outcome with Lysa. Lysa had sex with him, but because he can't understand that the love of his life didn't approve of his duel, he warps the outcome in his mind into being Cat expressing remorse for supporting the wrong duelist. At the time this was okay, he was high on opium, but he should have figured out the truth afterward.
>>69995899
>MOMS GONNA FREAK
>>69990669
I thought he was Irish? I could hear an Irish accent breaking through everytime he was speaking?
>>69995557
The fact that american speech is rhotic doesnt mean that all rhotic english is american, you dummy. Rhotic english accents have existed and continue to exist, the fact that you arent aware of the diversity in english accents doesn't strengthen your argument.
The internet is a wonderful font of information but it's no use if you aren't capable of actually interpreting that information properly.
>>70002403
if he said that I would cringe, not because of the speech but because of the retarded chubby trailer boy spitting such edgy shit, doesn't suit him at all. I wouldn't even buy that he killed a man, Theon looked more menacing and as someone who's seen shit than Bubba Boy.
>mfw Americans still think their accent is the original English one
Who the fuck started this meme?
>>70002538
>It's probable that this was something Asbæk requested
I think this might be true. We already know Max von Sydow demanded a less inconvenient costume or he'd walk, and Emilia Clarke also threatened to leave unless her contract was changed to optional nudity. Same thing with the direwolf death spree, the animals and animal handlers are apparently really tedious to work with. D&D have bowed to the actors in the past, they probably did again. It's true that a lot of acting depends on your eyes, but seriously, a pirate without an eyepatch?
>>69995097
I think that's a good change actually. Goes well with the Iron Throne and makes the Iron islands seem more regal. The only instance you call a throne a "chair" is to demeen it
>>70005398
>Who the fuck started this meme?
couldn't handle the banter in /int/, it got them starting this meme.
>tfw your nation is a synonym for stupid
>>69994762
this is true,
Old English (OE) had an open back vowel /ɑ/, written ⟨a⟩, as well as a front vowel /æ/, written ⟨æ⟩. These had corresponding long vowels /ɑː/ and /æː/ but were not normally distinguished from the short vowels in spelling although modern editions of Old English texts often mark them as ⟨ā⟩ and ⟨ǣ⟩. In the low vowel area, there was also a pair of short and long diphthongs, /æɑ/ and /æːɑ/, written ⟨ea⟩ (the long one also ⟨ēa⟩ in modern editions)
When Europe discovered the New World, the colonists kept the /æ/ sound, while the British removed it.
>>70003370
nu skal du lige lukke roven, bare fordi D og D valgte at fucking mikse Euron og Victarion betyder det ikke at pilou er sheit
>>69993740
They're both Danish
>>70005591
That woman looks British though.
>>69997206
:^)
>>69993383
>inspired by a French book
>based on a fictional French and British history
>I'm sure the French had british accents as well.
butthurt frenchie detected
Look at the top of his head.
>>69990669
Cast whoever played Ned Low in Black Sails, he would have been perfect
>>70003655
hheh, my grandma's a JW
>>70005628
pilou ER fucking lort
Han er en skralde skuespiller.
>>69994762
This is pretty much entirely wrong. English accents have changed, yes, but they did not go from "American" to "British".
>>70005623
>American education
Old English was literally a millenium ago, English colonisation of the Americas began in 1607 after the language transformed through Middle English and had pretty much developed into its modern, recognisable form.
"Old English" has never meant "English that is old like before current english lol", it is specifically Anglo-Saxon and changed drastically in its development into Middle English and beyond.
Wow, Americans sure are butthurt about getting cucked by Brits. Can't blame them.
>>70005877
The Canteburry Tales from the 1400s is written in Old English. The New World was discovered in the late 1400s, am I right?
>>70005894
It's in Middle English.
>>70005881
They'll get over it some day.
when will stannis come back it'd not funny anymore
>>70005894
>The Canteburry Tales from the 1400s is written in Old English
No, Middle English
>The New World was discovered in the late 1400s
British colonisation did not begin until 1607, as I said. It really only kicked off after the development of modern English and the great vowel shift
>>70003931
I think he would look more like this.
>>70006043
Probably. I just went for the most ridiculous while still accurate picture I could find.
He'd look even less silly on screen because real hair dye is less pure blue and more likely to be a brown-blue-black mix that could look halfway decent. GoT certainly has good enough costume people to pull a wig like that off.
>>70005894
>The Canteburry Tales from the 1400s is written in Old English.
I understand this isn't something everyone needs to know about, and that Americans tend to be pretty happy to be ignorant about stuff like this. But why the fuck would you pretend to be knowledgeable about the development of the English language when you clearly know fuck-all about it?
>>69994674
Was waiting for someone to mention Borgen
>>70006043
>>70006267
Borgen sucks, and we've seen the same shit since Det Forsomte Forår. Lektor Blomme gets killed yet again, and again, and again.
Danish television and movies are so fucking boring.
>>70006291
Speak for yourself, I love Dutch movies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KKMOAXpuko
>>70002653
>he doesn't know how the English language evolved
>thinks an American accent is anything but an absolute mess of accents mixed together in the worst possible way
DUDE BRING ME 1000 SHIPS LMAO
>>70003430
Oh god I knew i remembered that guy from somewhere, he was the biggest pussy ever in that series
ITT Eye patches and Americans insecure about their shrill voices
>>70006366
DUDE NO DICK
The only choice.
>>69990669
I wonder how many kings-to-be have just drowned? Who the fuck wants that job anyways? And why would anyone want to live in that miserable hell hole?
>>69993290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3POYx6IeeI
this is the best GoT experience
>>69990669
I don't see why they couldn't recast him, they've recast others. They could put it down to him having learned from the faceless men in his travels or some shit like that.
>>70006805
Video's blocked in the UK.
>>69990669
>DANE?
>>70006803
In the books the normal "drowning" is just a full-body baptism, aka you stand on a beach with a priest, he reads some stuff at you, dips your head in, and you're done. Only the priests have a literal drowning like Euron got, and after they're pulled out of the water the other priests use CPR to bring them back to life. Damphair is so notable because he has never failed to bring anyone back with CPR, where most priests lose many of their acolytes to drowning.
>>70006858
That's because it's from the BBC, you filthy Brit.
>Charles Dance reading fifty shades of grey during the big fat quiz.
>>70006768
>I am Euron Greyjoy and I claim the Salt Throne. Now kiss my hand.
