The ride never ends.
Have we seen an end to the politically impartial review?
Pretty much, they are showing their true colors, especially the film reviewers posted here
London Has Fallen, Neon Demon, they don't bask of diversity and progressiveness so the liberals and leftists pounce on it to deride it and name-drop Donald Trump somewhere in the review no matter how out of place it is because he's their boogeyman.
>>69791793
>>69791793
>>69791793
Spy was legitimately funny tbqf. Not 94%-worthy but definitely a solid comedic flick.
>>69791842
>everything I don't like is Hitler
>>69791793
LONDON HAS FALLEN is shit even removed from a political point of view though
one of the most visually incoherent action films i've ever seen
>>69791930
>attractive females is misogyny
>>69791965
Okay but the problem is all those reviewers can't help but review it with a political narrative in mind, that being of leftism and progressiveness so this movie might as well be a "Nuremberg Nazy rally to them"
now I wanna watch it more
>>69791842
Second one is from her review of BvS, not Neon Demon.
>>69791842
>>69791793
Why are they either aging white women or weak-sounding white men?
stop using RT for ratings and use Filmaffinity
Daily reminder that Refn is literally r/movies the ""director""
>>69792076
that makes a bit more sense I guess, in that her calling it fascist, cause that seems to spring out of nowhere
>>69792012
have you actually seen it? it's legitimately racist. I wouldn't go so far as to compare it to a Nazi rally, but it's pretty disgusting. this is coming from a fairly reasonable person who has actually never been offended by a film, too.
>>69792150
Fuck off nu-male
>>>/reddit/
>>69792112
Still doesn't make sense applied to BvS.
She also thought Angry Brids was a men's rights activist film.
>>69792150
Go buck to fuckheadistan.
>>69792190
>Still doesn't make sense applied to BvS.
I know, she must be one bitter fuck. All these RT reviewers must be, and they can't go a single problematic film without mentioning the Don, they must have issues.
>>69792174
lol not even close
i couldn't give less of a fuck about muhsogny or perceived racism in films
i do draw the line at a film that's intended to entertain but stars what is essentially a psychotic, paranoid xenophobe who takes pleasure from torturing people
It's honestly disgusting, for a variety of reasons.
A film reviewer's primary goal should be to analyze and evaluate the content of the movie, that is to say the narrative, plot, and story, along with characters and pacing, while also looking at the form, which would be the style and aesthetic of the film, from the color pallete to the choice in music, to a number of other factors that define the visual and auditory elements of the film.
Instead, for some reason that I won't go into, a large majority of reviewers hosted on these aggregate websites seem to only focus on the topical political message, whether there is one within the film, or whether they invent one that ISN'T in the film. So instead of understanding and appreciating the form and content that make the movie what it is, all the reader is left with is the reviewer's view of their bias in regards to an imagined political message.
One of the most heartbreaking parts is that these so-called "reviewers" have no formal, and barely an informal, education on the subject of movies, so all they can talk about is their FotM political motivations.
What makes this all so dangerous is that these uneducated people have influence, at least when their reviews fly under the banner of RT. A movie reviewers should be able to write a number of essays on a variety of subjects regarding their favorite films, but reading some of the selections from these assorted names, I'm honestly surprised they can shit out these tone-deaf bylines.
We need to bring back the rotten tomatoes comment section.
Does anyone remember when movie it was that forced them to remove it? I get the feeling it was probably a Nolan flick.
I remember one particularly funny response to a negative Scott Pilgrim review.
>>69792250
You must not be American
>>69792336
i am, actually. born in New York. live in Maine.
>>69791842
>*sob*
>>69792262
>a large majority of reviewers hosted on these aggregate websites seem to only focus on the topical political message, whether there is one within the film, or whether they invent one that ISN'T in the film. So instead of understanding and appreciating the form and content that make the movie what it is, all the reader is left with is the reviewer's view of their bias in regards to an imagined political message.
Well said, its the same with videogame reviews these days too. A cursory glance into the mechanics and story of a game and then the paragraph long explanation for why its problematic for not including non-white characters or whatever other bullshit.
I'm sick of it, all media seems to be infested with this mindset.
>>69790385
Refn is shit now, Only God Forgives was absolute garbage well it looked pretty but thats it
I can't wait for Ghostbusters
>>69791793
check your politics at the door pls
>>69792150
Are you one of those cucks who, when characters in a movie act racist (or any other -ist), you cry that the movie itself is racist?
>>69792453
Tell that to Rotten Tomatoes
>>69792470
no, because i'm not a moron and i can distinguish between the intended message or argument of a film and what the characters do and say
>>69791793
London Has Fallen is shit by any metric, what are you even on about?
>>69791793
I fucking can't stand Chrysti Lemire. She's the host of WhatTheflick
>>69792442
Underrated post
>>69791969
sounds like something I'd enjoy
funnily enough this review has been the most helpful, I'm definitely watching this now
>>69792575
The point is you should try arguing that point in some other fashion than shouting, "DAS RAYCISS!"
>>69792688
same
It seems like a lot of reviewers are hating on the film for featuring only attractive women.
Letting their jealousy impact their review process.
>>69792442
>the Ghostbusters reviews
will be interesting
>>69792810
delete this
>>69792702
Ok, let's try some role reversal here. Let's say there was an Abraham Lincoln biopic starring Idris Elba. Would you think that was kind of dumb? Would it be out of line for a reviewer to say that was dumb?
>>69792404
The biggest problem with RT is that assigning a percentage and score to a film is purely a "review" metric, however most of the people the site aggregates don't review films, but instead try to do critiques. The worst part is that most of these "critics" lack the knowledge and ability to actually critique films, so instead they just focus on their extremely limited political hot-topics and shoehorn them on every film that challenges (intentionally or not) their fragile identities.
>>69792810
All that thin women. Of course fat women in their middle age who review films will hate this
>>69791842
>Johanson
the eternal Swedecuck strikes again
>>69792843
That would be dangerous.
>>69792856
That's a horrible analogy.
Hollywood has been hiring black actors for white characters for years now. Nobody gives a shit. And if they did, they wouldn't type 500 words on how they're beyond triggered while completely ignoring the point of a review.
>>69792150
If anything, London Has Fallen makes the point that drone striking randies in the middle east is a bad idea
>>69792856
Bro, I have news for you: we have pictures of Abraham Lincoln and he's not black.
>>69791793
It's sickening.
>>69791842
>>69793027
except that they end the movie by drone striking the same people, which is portrayed as a heroic, postive ending
>>69793068
Wow, thats another movie I want to see.
This woman has terrible taste in movies, she should just stop, I'm sensing major jealously and victim complex in each of her reviews.
>>69793068
No surprise there.
>>69792810
Yeah there's no possible way Captain Autism could make a 5th consecutive shitty movie.
>>69793164
See >>69792262
They're not interested in the film for the films sake.
>>69793068
Guess her parents gave her a bad review by giving her the most generic 1950s female name possible
>>69792250
Honest question: do you consider Birth of a Nation to be racist?
If yes, then you judge movies based on your "progressive" view of the world, and not on their value.
It woulb be nice if there was a aggregate rating site that factored out female reviews.
Woman are truly incapable of processing stimuli through any prism beyond how it instinctively makes them feel.
>>69793352
female and beta nu-male reviews too
Reminder that Refn loves, loves, loves women (he considers them far superior to men and has said many times that he wants to be one, in fact he even said that this movie is him pretending to be a teenage girl today (technically y-day but whatever) at the press conference) and that the reason that this film is so heavily criticized is because the dialogue and characters are literally The Room-tier.
t. saw it on thursday
>>69792976
for my mother
take a listen to the intro monologue of Bret Easton Ellis' podcast with Tarantino, he says it all
idealogical vs aesthetic viewpoints
>>69793164
>drive
>bronsone
>shitty
Nice meme, loser. I personally do not think that neither Valhalla Rising or OGF are shit, but that point is a lot easier argued, but with Bronson and Drive, they are pretty well regarded as great movies, that only contrarian memers like you dislike.
>>69792856
The President of the USA has been black many times before Obama was around in fiction
>>69793378
Then Neon Demon is absolutely my movie, I feel the same way kinda, not that I want to become some tranny freak because I'm not stupid, but if I could do it instantly and flawlessly like by taking some pill I probably would, women- beautiful women are fucking amazing and who wouldn't want to be one if they could?
I have a feeling this movie is going to be popular with sissies and lovers of women alike.
>>69793034
In other news Egyptians don't look like Australians. What's your point?
>people bitch about no blacks in medieval europe movie
>4chins laughs at them and cites historical accuracy of medieval europe
>people bitch about no egyptians in egyptian movie
>KEEP YOUR POLITICS OUT OF MY REVIEWS
Refn frustrates me. He really has what it takes to be a great director, but first he just needs to accept that he's an awful screenwriter.
>>69791969
>lolita fantasy
What does this mean?
>>69790385
Since reviews are OPINIONS, the opinion of the writer will always shine through.
What you need to do is read different reviews from different sources which you know holds different political views.
It's the same as with any news article, or rumour, or anything.
Sauce, bitch. Sauce.
>>69794168
18 is the new 16
>>69793322
i've never watched it.
>>69790385
yes
time to think for yourselves
>>69794068
>egyptian actors
>>69794068
Egyptians who are good actors and can speak English well aren't exactly in huge supply in Hollywood
>watching Troy for the first time
WHY THE FUCK IS BRAD PITT PLAYING ACHILLES
ACHILLES IS GREEK NOT AMERICAN
I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED
>then Orlando Bloom comes in
>he's Paris
OH MY FUCKING GOD I AM EVEN MORE TRIGGERED
MORE FUCKING AMERICANWASHING
>>69794420
Why is this even on your hard drive f@m? It's so incredibly specific and situational. How long have you been sitting on this? What else you got in the vault?
>>69794587
>t. newfag
>>69794587
mate its 60kb on a single 1tb HDD, of which I have 6.
I'm not sweating for extra drive space
>It's so incredibly specific and situational
Not really, it's great for any sort of SJW/retarded leftist/politically correct thread
>>69794168
It means you're a pedo.
>>69794420
>>69794587
>>69794612
>>69794779
/r/ING THAT PIC OF RAMI DRESSED AS A PHARAOH SAYING "FOUND ME SOME GOLD HERE SLEDGEHAMMAH"
>>69792150
Yes, I look for my action movies to be politically correct at all times. Oh wait...
>>69791793
Didn't a paki directed London Has Fallen
>>69792262
You hit the nail on the head.
>>69790385
Misogyny and racism are not positive things.
>>69792810
Anyone who hates this film is surely a misogynist of the highest order.
>>69790385
his fucking face
>>69795003
>thousands of movies with terrible things happening to men
>nobody bats an eye
>woman gets raped or treated like an object
>everyone explodes in fury
Also, showing something doesn't mean you condone it. Making a movie with characters that treat women terribly or are racist doesn't mean you (the creator) support the viewpoints and actions of these characters.
>>69795045
I agree, how can you hate a film all about women?
Only if you were jealous of their beauty I guess.
>>69793068
Dammit /pol/. Why must you always be right?
>movie passes the bechdel test
>feminists and nu-males still bitch about it
>>69795217
The synopsis doesn't give to many details but it seems to be about older women stealing young women's energy.
>Plot[edit]
>Jesse (Elle Fanning), an aspiring model, moves to Los Angeles, where she is recruited by a fashion mogul (Alessandro Nivola) as his muse. Upon entering the city's modeling industry, she finds that her vitality and youth are devoured by a group of beauty-obsessed women who will use any means to get what she has.
>>69795320
Can't please 'em, ain't worth trying.
>>69795358
That's so hot in a way, will be fun to imagine being in her position.
>>69795128
Terrible stuff like what?
Rape is worse than murder.
How come the terrible thing to happen to women is always rape?
Another libcuck getting all cranky because nobody wants to misogynise his anus.
>>69793068
that robot wasn't a damsel, she was programmed to be manipulative.
this fucking bitch. i hate her.
i hate all bloggers.
>>69795413
I know you are baiting, but the fact that some people will argue that rape is worse than murder shows how moronic we have become as a society.
>>69795358
No wonder middle aged feminists reviewers hate this film. Its too close to home.
>>69795443
They only look at movies on the surface, and the instant they see anything problematic they will only focus on that.
>>69795495
>21:21:21
Time align doesn't lie.
>>69790385
>>69790385
Seth Rogen paid Critics to bash a movie to promote his R-Rated Animated Film.
Spread the Hashtag #Sausagegate
If you listened to SJWs you would:
- Avoid this movie but watch garbage like Frozen and Trainwreck.
- Read Jezebel but avoid writers like Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins.
- Play every new Bioware game but avoid anything from Japan.
Listening to SJWs would make you a lesser person.
>>69793068
>>69791842
>>69791969
>>69791793
>>69790385
Who's got that clip of that magician on America's Got Talent or whatever it is
>>69794973
>>69795524
>>69791793
The left sure loves straw manning trump supporters at every possible opportunity.
>>69796072
We'll get our turn in November, friend. The reign of terror is coming to an end.
can somebody spoil the movie for me please.
>>69796134
cute girls doing cute things
Who are those fags and why should I care what they think?
>>69795688
>anon makes great points
>anon tells the truth
>anon tells it like it is
>anon says something debatable on the internet but is in reality, factual.
>anon gets dubs
Under-rated post
>>69791842
So she hates all of men and all Donald Trump voters. So together, she hates over 50% of the population.
The left are so tolerant aren't they?
>>69796377
only tolerant to those in their clique and who will obey their demands and share their views
>>69792150
C U C K
>>69796072
Smell the fear!
>>69791793
Isn't rami malek egyptian? dude looks whiter than most white Americans.
>>69792361
You're still a c.u.c.k though
>>69791969
This description is everything I want in a movie.
Is the movie actually good or not?
Just cause a movie triggers them, doesn't mean it's good. And just cause they like a movie, doesn't mean it's bad, like Mad Max.
Honestly, trailer looks boring.
>>69796465
>americans
>white
nice try
>>69795688
Hitchens was very left wing, what would they have against him? No let me guess, sexist. No idea how but I bet they've found a way to cast him as such
Also Dawkins is pretty left wing, I don't understand this. Both are obvious famous for being atheists. You would have thought the left would love them
>>69796569
There's classical left and then there's SJW. Only the former believes in free speech and embraces differences in opinion.
>>69790385
>>69791793
>conservative critics are allowed to hate on a movie for perceived liberal bias
>liberal critics aren't allowed to hate on a movie for perceived right-wing bias
Why does /tv/ apply double standards to everyone they disagree with?
Is this board even capable of self-awareness or introspection?
>>69796569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7izJggqCoA
this might have something to do with it.
>>69796524
Watch it and find out.
>>69790385
>Have we seen an end to the politically impartial review?
It never existed in the first place
>>69796652
>conservative critics
>existing
>>69796662
>The problem with female comedians up till now is they tend to be either dykes or Jews or butch.
Fooking legend
>>69796677
Yes it did. Movies used to be reviewed according to how entertaining they were, how well they were made, written and acted. Now they are reviewed for how much they champion a ""progressive"" message
When did everything become so political? It was never like this before. You never say this kind of shit in the 90s.
>Jurassic park is the kind of right wing gun toting power fantasy that only Bob Dole voters would enjoy.
>Omg, the bodyguard is so sexist and riculous. A white man and black woman. Ugh. Why did Tina do this movie? Kevin Costner needs to check his privlegde.
>>69796743
>who is Armond White, Kyle Smith, Ann Coulter and John Campea
Also literally everyone who hated on Fahrenheit 9/11.
>>69795244
/pol/ is always right.
>>69796569
The left doesn't like Dawkins because of his criticism of Islam and Muslims, which the modern left considers a 'protected group'. Basically, the left was only interested in criticisms of religion insofar as it was a fuck you to straight white male Christians. As soon as that criticism shifted to minority groups, they were paradoxically left trying to rationalize their unconditional support of minority groups with their rational criticisms of religion.
>>69797125
the left truly operate outside of sanity
>>69796879
No one actually has anything to look forward to. Our economy and society are fucked.
Ever wondered what living throughout the fall of Rome was like? You're going to find out- only this time, the wealthy bankers and nobles who caused all this to happen are going to get away on golden parachutes and repeat the process somewhere else instead of being righteously slaughtered by Visigoths.
>>69790385
>Have we seen an end to the politically impartial review?
yeah mang I'm sick of these kids complaining about flicks being feminist/leftist/SJW propaganda, like, leave your shitty politics out of it fuck
>>69791969
damn /tv/ is really going to like this film
>>69799637
Release when?
>>69800257
June 24
>>69791969
>she actually thought this description would make the movie sound bad
>>69790385
Everything is sexist.
Everything is racist.
Everything is transphobic.
As cultural leaders it is our job to Call It Out when we see it.
>>69791842
>Neon Demon
>Fascist
This things-I-don't-like-are-fascist-meme is my new favoruite.
>>69792262
The majority of film reviewers (and this is true going back into the 70's) are not knowledgeable about film. They are writers and cultural critics offering opinions on films and often at best movie fans or people knowledgeable about film history (rather than production and craft).
Actual critical analysis of film like this current youtubers work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4X2vDRfRk
Is dry and boring to most people.
They want to find someone with similar tastes to their own so they can use their opinion to gauge whether to pay to see a movie or not.
Now they often just want someone to agree with their tastes and form extended fan groups.
That's just how it's always been.
The political messaging is simply people using a platform that gets views to share their personal political beliefs and in the scummier corners of the internet to draw attention and gain ad revenue.
>>69791793
I wish Trump would stop being used as a buzzword like that. Just to dismiss any person. I hate Trump, but the "he's racist/misogynist/homophobic/totally just like Hitler" rhetoric (that none of these people can back up with actions that point to any of that) combined with the extreme hatefulness that comes out of Bernie supporter rallies (rallies that the cops have had to break up they were so disruptive) makes me almost want to drop my Libertarian Party vote and vote Trump.
The left in America legit scares me. These people are terrifying. Even the bloodthirsty neocons aren't half as terrifying. I'd rather listen to insane Glenn Beck rants than a liberal talk about bathrooms or privilege.
>>69800791
I'm a libertarian, but Trump raises some points that are too important for me to ignore. He also wants to leave a good amount of issues to the states, which you'd never see on the left.
>>69800438
Honesty, as I've realized everything I like in life at some point gets called out as Fascist by the 'left' at some point, it's only made the romantic in me say "fuck it" and actually become kind of a new form of fascist.
Which is complicated because I'm pro-environment, sympathetic of ordinary people (while also thinking there is always a necessary role in the elite), believe in certain eternal values but don't think people can perfectly attain them, dislike neoliberal globalist capitalism but aren't exactly socialistic or purely capitalistic (but have elements of both), believe ethnicities and the local should be preserved, believe men and woman are complementary equal but fundamentally different and one must lead (men), believe prejudice to be a fact of life but don't exactly like it, love innovation but also tradition, and think culture, ecology, and aesthetics should be the priorities instead of profit, but also don't think equality or utopia is possible or desirable.
But aesthetics are hugely important to me and I despise people who taint art by trying to push their ugly, stupid political agendas on it.
>>69800569
You find this kind of criticism still in academia and in specialized magazines like S&S. Although academia is slowly being overtaken by cultural critics who'd rather talk about racist undercurrents than film form.
The mainstream press is a different story, though. Some outlets have the entertainment reporters masquerading as film critics. But I think traditionally newspaper film critics have been often journalists reassigned to film writing. That's what happened to people like Ebert. I think Rosenbaum was much more interested in jazz and literature when he was younger too. But even those kind of old film critics bathed in cinema and actually learned what they needed to know.
Nowadays you just have hacks who treat it the same as if they were writing about current affairs or books.
>>69791969
>elle fanning
>attractive
lol
>>69800971
You've lost your posting privillages for this thread.
>>69800911
There's nothing inherently terrible about Fascism as properly understood. At least nothing worse than socialism. Aesthetics are a huge part of Fascism too, tradition, and corporatism, militarism (which less face it, is already a trait of most western democracies).
Nazism isn't fascism and that's the biggest mistake people make. Fascism is not anti-semitic. It's authoritarian, yes. But I'd argue that socialism is not just authoritarian, but totalitarian. I'd rather live in an authoritarian Fascist state like Italy than a totalitarian Socalist state like the USSR.
Fascism is understood by very few people these days. It's a buzzword. Any time you see someone talk about Fascism and 70% of their examples or allusions are to Nazism, you know it's bullshit.
>>69800971
pretty pleb taste if i'm being completely honest with you here right now.
>>69794185
She's not even attractive, her face is weird
>>69801444
pretty pleb taste if i'm being completely honest with you here right now.
>>69794068
It's worth pointing out that the kind of "egyptians" that these people would be happy with are black Africans. Actual Egyptians wouldn't satisfy them.
>>69801460
The hell's going on with her nose?
>>69791842
>>69791969
>>69794274
There is nothing more bitter and hateful in this world than a middle-aged women.
>>69795820
>Plebs still want Drive 2
Fucking babies
>>69791842
London has fallen is pure shit
>>69796465
he's half
>>69794068
>no egyptians in egyptian movie
>egyptian movie
>egyptian movie
>egyptian
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WHITE PEOPLE IN BOLLYWOOD
>>69790385
Popular critics rarely seem to grasp that horror movies are supposed to be about bad things happening to people.
>>69796652
Why do you made such an idiotic post?
You know that there barely any conservative critics. You know no one who really does that take them seriously. Go ahead, find them. Go on Rotten Tomato and try to find any of these heavily biased conservative critics on there, and in numbers enough to influence a score.
Now do the same for leftist ones. Hell, you don't even need to look for fringe far left ones since even progressive language manages to bleed into even mainstream reviews. And yes, when you bring out Donald Trump out of nowhere to bash a film, your bias deserves to be shit on.
And no, posts on /tv/ are not the same as "professional" reviewers that are considered for an RT score.
>>69802823
They might as well be by now, RT is a joke.
