What went sowrong?
>>69736013IT WAS ME JAMES
>manlet James Bond
What could go wrong?
>>69736013
Fuck you it is my second best Craig bond movie.
>Casino
>Spectre
>Skyfall
>Quantum
>>69736013
I thought it was decent, and the best of the Craig films
>>69736013
It was good, ending was bad (london scenes) and bond-blofeld connection was too cheesy (woul've worked with moore tho).
>>69736013
Nothing.
He made a couple great bond movies, and a couple okay bond movies.
>>69736013
Tried as hard as they could to get the bourne audience and forgot bond is supposed to be fun.
The last two mission impossible movies are more Bond than the last fucking bond movies.
>>69736013
IT WAS ME
THE WHOLE
TIME
Out of all the possible creative ideas they had for a bond intro they decided on naked women on fire with tentacles. Also the bond theme for spectre was garbage
Mendes was the problem.
The problem with the Daniel Craig Bond movies isn't Daniel Craig. It's not even the directors of the movies. It's the fact that they shit out a script with absolutely zero rewrites, and just go with the first draft.
The stories are left with a lot of questions like
"How did X know that?"
"Why are they going to Y?"
"Why didn't so-and-so say that in the first place?"
With the exception of Casino Royale, /tv/ has always had mostly intelligent discussions about the glaring plot holes in the Daniel Craig Bond films.
>>69736013
A villain so bland, they had to retcon him as the man behind the previous 3 movies, as if that would make him more interesting.
>remember when your wife's son stole your Aston Martin and crashed it?
>who do you think was the father, James?
I still have /tv/'s golden discussions of the Skyfall script:
>Bond pretended to be dead rather than fall into the hands of the only people who could help him.
>Then for some reason hackers hack mI6, somehow causing an explosion and the deaths of several people.
>Having ‘retired’ Bond, despite suffering the biggest wounds in the entire history of the Bond series, immediately unretires and returns to London. Although he fails every possible test to be reinstated, M decides the only agent who can stop the guy who they failed to stop in the beginning is Bond.
>Then we go to China, who Fdso gah frrlmpr blaa huygggni asdf so Bond can RTDYTFYTF YUUYFUF FYUFUYF RFR^&U&^R Komodo Dragon.
>Bond is captured on the main villains island, which contains approximately 3 guards.
>Bond then counter-captures the Joker I mean hacker and put him in a computer-controlled prison, Then, despite having been hacked before They plug his laptop in to their network and turn it on.
>The Joker (I mean hacker) then escapes to everyone's...suprise...
BUT THEN
Not using Radiohead instead of that fag.
>>69738938
At the final battle, everyone had the same goal: Kill M. Due to this overwhelming consensus, Bond convinces M that
the smartest thing to do is ditch the entire country's security apparatus in favor of driving up to Scotland with basically no weapons, no backup and deliberately leaving a trail for the bad guy to follow.
At the end, Bond defeated himself by not saving the person he was trying to save (The entire point of the film)
Not protecting M even though he should, and obliging the villain to be entirely successful.
The Spectre discussion is even better:
>Why would M wait until she was dead to make sure Bond got the message to seek out Sciarra, a Spectre operative in Mexico City, especially if Sciarra had plans to commit acts of terrorism? Did no one else have a file on Sciarra? Did she know she was going to die? Did she read the script?
>Bond goes to Sciarra’s funeral for no reason, and putting himself at risk of being identified by people who may have known Sciarra. He then fucks Sciarra’s wife after saving her from being killed. She had no reason to be saved, and he had no reason to see her. She tells him about the existence of Spectre, the shadow organization that James Bond and others already knew existed and had been hunting for years.
>Spectre is shown to be a powerful organization where politicians and businessmen govern from the shadows to further their interests. Positions are held by rich and powerful men and women who fear the wrath of Franz Oberhauser. When a position is to be filled, it isn’t done so with skill and intrigue. Instead, a pro-wrestler jabs a man’s eyes out and deems himself suitable for the position. No one opposes this.
>If Spectre wanted Mr. White dead, why would they put radiation or whatever in his phone? Why let him stay alive long enough to divulge information about the whereabouts of his daughter? We’ve seen previously that Spectre kills suspected leaks without mercy.
>Mr. White tells James Bond to find L’American, but doesn’t tell him that it is a hotel. There is no reason not to tell him it’s a hotel. Spectre already knows that this hotel exists because Mr. White worked for them through Quantum, so why not cover their tracks? They’re totally willing to destroy their bases to over their tracks, so why not a small hotel? James Bond has to wait until he saves Madeline to find out about the hotel.
>>69739025
>Nitpicking, but relevant: A close analysis of Sciarra’s ring shows a “DNA Match” connecting Le Chiffre, Green, and Silva to Franz Oberhauser. Did anyone else notice this when Q was analyzing the ring? They did not all wear the same ring.
>L’American has a secret room that cannot be entered unless the flimsy wall is broken down. The wall was built to keep the information inside from being found. Why not destroy the information if you didn’t plan on entering the room ever again? Why build a wall if you intended to get back to the room to access the info?
>There is no reason for the pro-wrestler to attack Bond on the train to the desert. Oberhauser was expecting him to turn up at the crater anyway, that's why he sent the car to pick them up.
>Franz Oberhauser is evil because he has daddy issues. He thinks James Bond supplanted him as son. This is the best writers could do to connect the two characters instead of saying that they were both recruited for the 00 Agent program and Oberhauser chose to use his skills for evil or something else. Too bad they used that idea in Goldeneye and Skyfall!
>Madeline Swann chooses to leave the safety of Bond and friends because she cannot tolerate a life of espionage, knowing full-well that she is still being hunted by the shadow organization she is fighting. She is captured immediately afterward, like, literally seconds afterward.
>>69739079
>Blofeld, who has absolutely no reason to be in London, personally oversees the arming and detonation of a building to kill James Bond. The head of a huge shadow organization decides to do this personally, putting himself at risk of getting caught by authorities. He is ultimately caught by these authorities.
>A fully-fueled boat is docked at the MI-6 headquarters which is armed for demolition. There is literally no reason for this boat to be there if the building has been rigged for demolition. This allows Bond to chase a helicopter and shoot it down with a single bullet, which is ridiculous because only an hour prior we witnessed a chase sequence with a mostly-destroyed airplane surviving impossible obstacles and disable two SUVs. The start of the film shows a helicopter doing all kinds of loops and tricks without any trouble.
>Bond, who has a license to kill and no reason to let Blofeld live, lets Blofeld live. There is no reason to show mercy to a man who is so powerful and well-connected he will escape the authorities and continue to run Spectre. After all, Silva (in Skyfall) wasn’t in custody for long, was he?
>>69738903
They took Blofeld and pushed him into the front without even giving him foreshadowing in previous movies, and on top of it all they recycled Da Silva's "family" rivalry. Using Blofeld in such a shit way should be a crime.
>>69736036
>craig
>bond
