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Spielberg's latest met with mildly positive reviews.
Maren Ade's 'Toni Erdmann' getting unanimous praise.
KStew booed out of the building.
Jim Jarmusch's latest 'Paterson' w/ Adam Driver is his best in years.


coverage here:
https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/tag/cannes_2016

http://cannes-rurban.rhcloud.com/2016

http://www.todaslascriticas.com.ar/cannes/2016

http://www.screendaily.com/festivals/cannes/cannes-toni-erdmann-sets-screen-jury-grid-record/5103942.article

http://www.indiewire.com/article/2016-cannes-reviews-interviews-news-trailers-features-indiewire-bible
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>>69627539
>caring about the auto-fellatio of the entertainment industry

What a nice way to show your impotence.
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>cannes

into the trash it goes
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>>69627752
>>69628041

fucking plebs
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refn will win the leaf
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>>69628237
That will never be allowed. Ever.
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>>69628274
>what is Dheepan
It's possible.
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Screening today is Almodovar's Julieta, Mendonca Filho's Aquarius and Mendoza's Ma'Rosa. Excited for Aquarius.

At the micropsia poll, the highest rated films screened so far are Puiu's Sieranevada, Ade's Toni Erdmann, Jarmusch's Paterson and Laxe's Mimosas.
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>>69628305
A safe, topical movie by a critical darling?
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>>69628471
It wasn't exactly loved by the critics.
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>>69628502

>It wasn't exactly loved by the critics.

http://www.avclub.com/review/cannes-winner-dheepan-bad-taxi-driver-wannabe-disg-236087

Fucking savage.
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>>69628502
still a far cry from only god forgives (which people have been saying this one compares to in divisiveness). and the fact that it's a horror film makes it all the more unlikely.
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>critics.

lmao
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Elle when
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>>69628688
The last day
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>>69628616
jesus man and here I thought 4 chan was mean.
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>>69628616
>Dheepan succumbs to the idea that the suburbs of Paris are just another war zone
>Dheepan shifts gears into an artless, ambiguously reactionary action fantasy of improvised weapons and bad guys getting what’s coming to them

Why can't the AVClub write a single review without inserting some shitty liberal opinions.
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>>69628684
hmmmmmm
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>>69628826
Go away /pol/.
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>>69628729
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Yet his idea of emancipation is no less juvenile. It more or less boils down to having Sookee and Lady Hikeko engage in three sex scenes – or, rather, two, but one gets an extended replay with additional sexual positions and camera angles – that conform to stereotypical adolescent male fantasies of how lesbians get it on. That said, having his leads wildly scissor to the swelling tune of Hans Zimmer’s “Journey to the Line” (best known from Terrence Malick’s The Thin Red Line) is a pretty amazing touch.
This will be a masterpiece. I hope based Miller gives something to this crazy motherfucker.
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>>69628885
Go away A.V. Club film reviewer.
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>>69628885
Go away, boardwrecking tourist.
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>>69627539
>“Makes the most of Spielberg’s talent for wit, whimsy and transporting spectacle.”

Grew up on the BFG and wanted a movie for years since Giant Peach was released, so this makes me feel good.
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>tfw Chan-wook Park watched Carol and said 'leave LesbianKino to me.
I loved Carol thou.
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>>69629246
>stereotypical adolescent male fantasies of how lesbians get it on
Meaning what? Cinemax music and soft focus? Is it like Blue is the Warmest Color where we come to find out that no lesbian in history has ever fingered a girl from behind while having sex? What is the true-to-life routine of lesbian sex? Do movies like Carol get it right if they fuck like an old married couple instead of jackrabbits?
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>>69629844
scissoring mb
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>>69629844
Seems like mostly men complain about the sex scenes and the male gaze.
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>>69629902
Only fags would complain about something like >le male gaze. If you even recognize to this memey imbecility, might as well have revoked your title as man.
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>>69628684
it's real
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>>69628684
Even worse is the sucking sounds.
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>>69628377
lmao I don't understand like half the words in your post
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>>69630141
I think you shouldn't be in this thread then.
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>>69629246
This review is literally half 'trigger warning: The review' and half 'muh male gaze' are all critics faggots now?
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>>69628684
pretty disgusting
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>>69628377
Julieta has already a lot of spanish reviews but i want to see what they say in the festival
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>>69630295
You gotta toe the line.
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I'll watch Personal Shopper.
Assayas's last 3 films are just ok, but he's still amazing in my book.
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>>69627539
>Dolan film with a 0 review
holy shit
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Any reviews for neon demon?
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my life as a zuchinni hype
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>>69629582
Oh the ironing
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I'm kinda happy Personal shopper got booed. It means Assayas took risks and that's great even if the movie isn't perfect. I'm really hype now.
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>>69633559
http://www.commeaucinema.com/bandes-annonces/personal-shopper,345154

trailer !
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>>69634230
Demonlover's pitch. I'm hype.
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>>69633558
ok
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>>69628652
it's an horror film? looks more like black swan or showgirls
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A few threads ago someone posted a Top 10 films of the decade so far (2010-2016) list, and I was disgusted to find most of you faggots agreed with it. I want to know what YOUR top 5 would be.

Mine, not in order:
1. The Assassin
2. Blue is the Warmest Colour
3. Under the Skin
4. Something like Jauja or Tabu just because they're aesthetically important -- I haven't seen Arabian Nights
5. Tbh Inside Llewyn Davis even though it's such a little, self-contained film, I love it.
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Sup /cannes/ pls help:

Which of the following films do I desperately need to see
>L'humanite
>Neighbouring Sounds
>The Secret of the Grain
>Stray Dogs
>Tropical Malady
>Millennium Mambo
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>>69636008
Well, what's that list? I honestly doubt it's something that would evoke disgust.
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>>69636158
All of them. This pack will provide many rewards and experiences.
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>>69636008
Top 3, in no particular order:

Upstream Color
The Great Beauty
Once Upon a Time in Anatolia

There's a huge power gap below these three.
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>>69636008
1. To The Wonder
2. Blackhat
3. Mad Max Fury Road
4. The Grandmaster
5. Bridge Of Spies
6. The Assassin
7. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
8. The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
9. The Social Network
10. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia

>>69636158
Tropical Malady and Millennium Mambo are the only ones I'd recommend
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>>69627539
apparently julieta had a good reception
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Julieta had solid reactions. Hope one of the qts of the cast wins
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>>69636911
>sorrentipleb
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>>69637088
I'm halfway through both of those films and can't find it in me to finish them. MM is only my second HHH film after The Assassin and I'm noticing his long, lingering shots that spend 10 minutes soaking in one menial conversation are much less endearing when it's not set in visually-gorgeous Wuxia-land.

Tropical Malady is also severely underwhelming thus far. It's like a less visually/narratalogically interesting Happy Together.
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>>69637305
fuck you
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>>69633559
Yeah. Just read some reviews comparing it with Boarding Gate and Demonlover, but as a bad thing.
Fucking plebs I swear.
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Millenium Mambo is a terrible movie rescued only by its cinematographer.
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>>69637556
About half of the critics so far have been retarded for whatever reason
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>>69637565
'no'
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>>69636008
The fact that you need to add "Jauja or Tabu" (like their interchangeable) just because their "importance" makes your list far more disgusting.
Even the dude that named The Great Beauty has more self respect than you.
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>>69637565
Awful opinion. Save it for yourself next time.
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>keep seeing people in these threads praising Arabian Nights
>see the lovely colorful poster and get excited
>"could it be? an up-and-coming arthouse European filmmaker who embraces fantasy and imagination, myths and poetry, instead of perpetuating the clichés of depressing visually inept social dramas and editing-less movement-less contemplative cinema?"
>watch the trailer
>weep for the current state of "world" cinema...
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>>69629902
yeah there was a tweet from a female critic who loved the film that said that the only people that talked to her about the male gaze was men, as if they were doing her a favor.

I don't mind the criticism of a silly sex scene if that's really how they feel, but I suspect this isn't genuine at all.
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>>69637088
le blackhat was good meme
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>>69637704
Well, now that you marathoned the trailer you can give a reasonable and well-informed opinion surely. Nigger
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>>69637638
I think you just read it wrong friendo, I meant that I think they're both equal in my eyes in terms of merit -- but both are aesthetically important for different reasons. They're only interchangeable insofar as any film close to usurping another on such a list would be.
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>>69637470
I agree that the first half of Tropical Malady is a lot like not quite as good WKW, the second half is completely different and a lot more interesting (altho there is one shot inside the house, can't remember exactly when but quite early on I think, that I remember as being absoutely perfectly framed).
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>>69636008
Suitcase of Love and Shame
The Princess of France
Grosse Fatigue
The Great Wall
White Nights on the Pier
Engram of Returning
I for Iran
Endless, Nameless
The Creation of Meaning
Where Are You Taking Me?
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when's that Jarmusch Stooges doc playing?
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>>69637275
it's not a popular opinion, but inma cuesta was one of my favourites
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>>69637777
A trailer is more than enough to give you an idea of the film's cinematic texture and the filmmaker's aesthetic sensibilities.
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>>69637856
>The Princess of France.
>Not Viola.
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>>69637933
I don't know who cut Arabian Night's trailer but a lot of them are just done by the studios/some random fucker who doesn't necessarily have any aesthetic sensibility at all. I think it is absoutely ridiculous to judge a film by its trailer especially if it hasn't been cut by the director/editor himself.
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>>69637933
That's blatantly false
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>>69637610
>>69637659
The voice-over is literally worse than Blade Runner's, which Ford intentionally fucked up.
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>>69637937
I don't like Viola as much. I would have put They All Lie over both of them, but it is from 2009.
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>>69637856
I doubt your honesty
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>>69636008
I'd say

1. The Assassin
2. Inside Llewyn Davis
3. Blue is the warmest color
4. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
5. The Wind Rises
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I don't get what people saw in Jauja. It felt very similar to Lost River: a collage of things stolen from other, far better, movies, incompetently glued together.
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>>69637993
I'm guessing you speak mandarin??
And I actually like Blade Runner's voice-over.
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>>69636158
All of them, but mostly Secret of the Grain and Millennium Mambo
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>>69636008
This is a fucking awful list and you should feel ashamed
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>>69638048
Lost River doesn't have shit on Jauja.
Jauja is about myth, in the history of Argentina, of America, and of cinema.
Lost River is a mumbling coming of age, nicely shooted though.
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>>69638096
Lmao post yours. I am certain that at least 3 of those will be on the best of list at the end of the decade, but by all means please trump my taste.
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>>69638134
Just because a movie is "about" something "weighty" doesn't mean it's any good. And vice versa.
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>>69638233
It's not "about" that. Is that.
Jauja is the most Fordian film we've had since that old fucker died 50 years ago. And the best part of it is that is not an homage at all.
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>>69638152
1. Captain America Civil War
2. Jurassic World
3. Captain America Winter Solider
4. Skyfall
5. Guardians of The Galaxy
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>>69638287
Of course it's not homage, it's straight up theft. And it's not like it does anything better. Alonso's only differentiation come in the form of pathetic gimmicks like the aspect ratio.

>I'm going to shoot these giant landscapes in this tiny frame! Aren't I a special fucking snowflake?!

Give me one reason to watch Jauja instead of The Searchers.
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>>69638287
>Jauja is the most Fordian film we've had since that old fucker died 50 years ago
That seems a very questionable claim
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>>69638377
>Give me one reason to watch Jauja instead of The Searchers
But you don't have to choose lmao
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>>69638377
>Give me one reason to watch Jauja instead of The Searchers.
Why the fuck would I do that? You can watch both. That's the beauty of it.
And yeah, there's the academic ratio, and the plotline. But above all is the sense of myth. Westerns are about civilization, about trying to build something lasting in the middle of the wilderness. That's where Alonso and Ford differ. In The Searchers, Ethan brings back the girl, back from the darkness. In Jauja, Dinesen just gets more lost, more alone. and eventually going completely mental. That's the difference between EEUU and Argentina. Between North and South America.
And don't reduce the 4:3 part. Alonso uses beautifully. No director does that withe frame today, except for maybe Pedro Costa.
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>>69638574
>Dinesen just gets more lost, more alone. and eventually going completely mental.

Yes, he also steals from Heart of Darkness. Am I supposed to find this interesting in some way?
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>>69638233
>>69638287
>>69638377
I don't think it's anything impressive but it's a refreshing take on a tired genre. The minimalistic contemplative festival meme works well with genre cinema, which has gotten too corrupted and forgotten its fundamentals. It's no Dead Man, but I still prefer something like this or Meek's Cutoff over a Magnificent Seven remake by Fuqua. It's an interesting curiosity, nothing more.

Like I prefer The Assassin over bloated wuxia blockbusters with awful CGIs, even if it's not The Blade.
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CANNES?
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>>69638616
Only by watching the film, dude. I'm really reducing it to petty explanations, and the beauty of the film is that it reconfigures all this things in a visceral, poetic way.
I'll leave you a more eloquent piece:
http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/reviews-recommendations/film-week-jauja
Also, losing your mind in the wild is not Conrad's trademark.
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FLICKS
1. Shining (Kubrick, 1980)
2. 一代宗師 / 一代宗师 (Kar-Wai, 2013)
3. L'inhumaine (L'herbier, 1924)
4. [달은 해가 꾼는 꿈] 예고편 (Park, 1992)
5. بادکنک سفيد (Panahi, 1995)

MOVIES
1. The Godfather, Part III (F. Coppola, 1990)
2. Á bout de souffle (Godard, 1960)
3. And a Little Kid Shall Lead Them (Griffith, 1909)
4. Kindsköpfe (Dugan, 2010)
5. Fear & Desire (Kubrick, 1953)

FILMS
1. Höstsonaten (Bergman, 1978)
2. Hets (Sjöberg, 1944)
3. The Birth of a Nation (Griffith, 1915)
4. 十二生肖 (Chan, 2012)
5. IIIIIIIIIIIIIII1891091718191611€€€€&-@ (Sandler, 2016)

CINÉMA
1. Mogambo (Ford, 1953)
2. Lost River (Gosling, 2014)
3. ¿Quién me quiere a mí? (Sáenz de Heredia/ Buñuel, 1936)
4. Eyes Wide Shut (Kubrick, 1999)
5. Der Student von Prag (Rye/ Wegener, 1913)

KINO
1. Berlin — Die Sinfonie der Großstadt (Ruttman, 1927)
2. Pauvre Pierrot (Reynaud, 1892)
3. Mauvais Garçons (1995, Bay)
4. Avatar (Cameron, 2009)
5. 劇場版ポケットモンスター ミュウツーの逆襲 (Yuyama, 1998)

ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY
1. Interstellar (Nolan, 2014)
2. L'ascension du chevalier noir (Nolan, 2012)
3. 01010101 01101110 00100000 01000011 01101000 01101001 01100101 01101110 00100000 01000001 01101110 01100100 01100001 01101100 01101111 01110101 (1928, Luis Buñuel)
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>>69638882
Needs an update with ROMPS and JOINTS
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>>69638371
>not having age of ultron
pleb alert
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>>69638882
>3. Mauvais Garçons (1995, Bay)
Nice
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So is 'Toni Erdmann' the front runner for the Palme d'Or? There doesn't seem to be a film that DEFINITELY stands out as the best, so if the new Dardenne Brothers' film is as good as 'Rosetta', 'The Kid with a Bike', or 'L'enfant', they could take it for the third time!
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Well, a lot of effort will be necessary for a worse choice than Dheepan was
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>>69639551
>jury led by a true Straya cunt obsessed with Campbellian myths and visual rock n roll rewarding the Dardennes
God I fucking hope not
This is the year of subversive, exciting, disturbing, popular and deeply visual genre cinema
Neon Demon and Handmaiden will get a double Palme, all the other prizes will be thrown into the trash
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>>69639861
Are you sure about the disturbing cinema thing?
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>>69639861
Miller will probably be into Aquarius.
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>>69640545
I think Miller will surprise us with someting unexpected, but not Aquarius
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>>69641131
After last year that sounds like a threat.
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>>69627539
>KStew booed out of the building
Was her autism too much?
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>>69641218
Naaah i think we won't see another case like the last year Dheepa
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>>69641418
Dheepan* was a weird choice
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>>69627539
>KStew booed out of the building.

What for?
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>>69637772
Shit-eating pleb here. What exactly was bad about Blackhat? I seriously don't get why people hate it so much.
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>>69641535
Mann re-cut it even though it was objectively perfect.
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>>69641535
Blackhat's amazing.
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>>69638882
>2. L'ascension du chevalier noir (Nolan, 2012)
Every time
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>>69639761
>>69641446
>>69641418
Dheepan was a political choice, one as equivocated as Fahrenheit 9/11 was. If they want to give the award while being hip with 'issues', it should at least go to something that is full of merits too, like La Vie D'Adele.
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>>69638882
Joints need to be added
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>>69641625
At least this year i don't see choices very obvious like Dheepan, maybe i'm wrong
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>>69641397
>>69641486
Just looked it up, apparently personal shopper is incredible -trailer was pretty decent
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/kristen-stewart-new-film-personal-shopper-booed-cannes-2016-review-a7033221.html
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>>69640464
>Are you sure about the disturbing cinema thing?
Neon Demon's script has some scenes that are guaranteed to shock the bourgeois at Cannes. It goes full grand guignol in its second half. I expect a reaction on par with Antechrist and Irreversible.
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>>69636008
The Turin Horse
Film Socialisme
Goodbye to Language 3D
Horse Money
Florentina Hubaldo, CTE

Julieta got mixed reception, Aquarius got high praise. Frontrunners still Toni Erdmann and Paterson, though Sieranevada and Aquarius now trail.

Blake Williams @Astrostic
Aquarius (6.5): Wavered for the longest, KMF's A+ rhythmic sense snapping be back into it; won over by a finale pulled from my nightmares.
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http://www.todaslascriticas.com.ar/cannes/2016 what is up with this gustavo beck guy he is giving loads of things 0s lol, who is he?
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>>69627539
>KStew booed out of the building.
KEK WHAT A DIFFERENCE A YEAR MAKES

WASN'T SHE THE YURO'S FAVORITE PET

THEY ALWAYS NEED ONE AMERICAN WHITE TRASH TO PILE ONTO
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>>69642532
I just hope the script won't be like Only God Forgives, you know, that movie felt like the script was only 3 or 4 pages, very empty and minimal dialogue

Some people said it's an horror film, now i'm starting to believe it
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>>69642906
He's just a filmmaker/curator. Anything that isn't formally rigorous or experimental in nature he will shit on. Take issue with it or don't if you care that much, but to be honest, I think he's the one guy (or at least, one of three) on the poll I align with the most.
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>>69643009
He seems to like some of the directors who I like but when he gives 5 films 0 I find it hard to rationalise his responses. They might not be great films but how can so many be 0.
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>>69643085
any rating system can be broken by people who don't think they should conform to it. just ignore him and focus on critics who actually like the dialectic.
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>>69642943
OGF's script actually had a lot of dialogues. He cut most of it off during shooting.
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>>69642924
Hardly. Her performance is getting good reviews.
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>>69643085
I've seen him under fire thrice this year for giving out low scores. My opinion: who cares.

If you go back to 2015, http://www.todaslascriticas.com.ar/cannes/2015, the films he likes are Carol, Mountains, The Assassin, Cemetery, The Treasure, The Other Side, In the Shadow of Women, My Golden Days and the Oliveira. Which is probably the exact same as mine +/- a couple of films.
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>>69643009
>not formally rigorous
>Park Chan Wook
What
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>>69643229
I literally see no issue here and I think you're off your rocker if you think there is one.
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>>69643213
That's what is most disappointing he appears to have pretty good taste, it's just a shame that he doesn't engage in discerning the bad films from the below average films and so on. A critics job isn't just to determine the top 10% of films but to try and formal a kind of informal heirarchy. Of course it doesn't matter but especially when you encounter films which sound interesting but don't have many reviews, and his is one of them, it is hard to know how much weight to give to his opinion when it is yet another blanket 0.
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>>69643255
How is he not formally rigorous?
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>>69643229
Park Chan Wook's thing is not being rigorous.
His best films are the messy ones.
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>>69642906
Juste la Fin Du Monde has been screened somewhere?
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>>69639861
Miller's vote is not more important than the other member of the jury
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>>69643384
no idea
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>>69643136
I just hope he won't made that again, that film felt very slow without dialogue, and the Neon Demon could be that disturbing? anyway comparing with the rest of the competition will be easy to make an scandal, but like irreversible is a serious deal
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>Filho supporting the corrupt Rousseff

What a retard
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>>69643491
That only 0 score looks weird from nowhere
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>>69643568
I thought Beirlnae was more politically marked than Cannes
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>>69643568
It seems you have no idea what's actually happening in Brazil my friend.
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>>69628684
poor fucker
I can't imagine anything worse than losing your fucking voice when your passion in life is discussing film
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>>69643568
That's such a cheap and gay thing to do. Classless

>>69643628
Oh, I'm sure YOU do
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>>69643628
Isn't Michel Temer also corrupt.
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>>69643726
Hard to find a clean politician, especially in South America.
Anyway if some of you are parisian, the Gaumont opera theater is showing some Cannes movies way before their international releases.
Here's the program http://www.cinemasgaumontpathe.com/offres/cannes-a-paris-en-exclusivite-au-gaumont-opera.html
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>>69642532
>runaway 12/13 year old gets beaten and raped offscreen
Didn't know Refn had the balls for shit like that. Granted it's offscreen but still.
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>>69643900
Maybe after the reception of Only God Forgives he thought "well fuck everything"
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>>69643726
And who got him there in the succession line? She made her bed. One of the many mistakes of her government if you can call it that. That spineless bulldyke was elevated by smoke and mirrors on the back of a false prophet.

And the artistic class is too stuck in the past to see the glib left they are supporting nowadays represents everything they should be fighting against.
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Name more Fordian films like Jauja
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>>69644537
Jauja can only be Fordian if Ford was sleepwalking
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>>69644537
Miami Vice
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Paterson sounds like Jarmusch on autopilot
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>>69629246
oh no it's my favorite soundtrack
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>>69628826
What liberal politics? He's saying that the movie is ruined for those things

I swear half of you reactionary idiots don't even read, you just scan for words to get mad at

>>69629977
You keep saying the same thing whenever The Handmaiden is brought up. If you're going to offhandedly dismiss entire viewpoints on art because it contains your trigger word you shouldn't be talking about art to begin with.
Why shouldn't a movie on sexuality have those depictions of sex judged and discussed?
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>>69643865
fuck those lucky parisians
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>>69643384
JUSTE
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>>69645252
My comment wasn't particular with any film, even less this one I have no real knowledge about. Not having previously commented on the film before, my point was a reaction against such infamous ideology. Happily, I'm not alone in standing against such insanities.

However, you seem to be unable to understand the things being contested when these matters appear. Or maybe, being a hypocrite is just too much fun.
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>>69645171
Jarmusch peaked with Dead Man. Been downhill since. People forget that he's in his sxities now. Maybe because he always had the white hair. But his cinema's essence was always about youth and hipness.
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>>69645702
>complains about "shitty liberal opinions"
>quotes contain absolutely none of those
nah you're just so politically enraged it's made you delusional. this isn't your soapbox and your anti-liberal rhetoric makes you sound ignorant.
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>>69645702
How am I being a hypocrite? You're admit you know nothing about the film and are mad just because he used a phrase you don't like, a phrase that has a meaning that can easily be applied to this film and it's themes. What other phrase would you rather he use to discuss whether a male directors depiction of female sex is exploitative or sincere to the story, or if it even matters to this particular film?

If it really is multiple people posting "le male gaze" in every thread then then sorry, I was thinking of the other retard and not you
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>>69645912
Lovely. I'll spare you this time of my bigotry. I'd rather something more challenging.

Also, I'm not the guy from the 'shitty liberal opinions' phrase. Sorry you're getting confused.
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>>69646061
'''Male gaze''' isn't simply a phrase but an ideological point, a venomous and exploitative one at that. The perpetuation in any venue- by anyone- of these ideas, is a negative event that should be more frequently attacked in its falsehoods.
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>>69646321
Don't you mean male gays?
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>>69643568

Dilma wasn't corrupt, but was a shitty president.

They tried as hard as they could to replace her, trying to avoid her bankrupting the country
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>>69646350
either way what would her staying achieve? nothing. it's better someone else come in to actually try and swing the pendulum in a different direction.
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>>69645252
Not the guy
>Why shouldn't a movie on sexuality have those depictions of sex judged and discussed?
Because of its long history of being a low IQ knee-jerk criticism against depictions they cba to unpack, from Ebert scoffing at Rossellini’s performance in Blue Velvet "j-j-just isn't right ;_;" to the recent "women never fingerbang like that" of Blue is the Warmest Color. Pardon me for being skeptical of critics who play that card.
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>>69646927
I'm ok with that criticism, being mad at a word and word alone is idiotic
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>>69647172
It's getting pretty ridiculous when lesbians defend male directors for their depiction of lesbian sex.
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>>69647172
People demonstrated being mad with the meaning of a word(s) not the word alone. In this business of trying to identify retards, let's hope you'll be able to catch yourself soon.
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Where are the reviews of Aquarius and Julieta?
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can someone confirm is KStew is nude in Personal Shopper?
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>>69642532
>yfw Refn says something weird and becomes persona non grata
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>>69648271
Somebody on twitter said seminude
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>>69642685
Saw it Julieta months ago, i expected mixed reactions
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>>69642532
According to that piece in the Guardian they didn't really follow the script. Refn just made shit up as they went along.
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>tfw you get cooed at Bannes
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>>69651122
I think he will change the ending, but the script will be something similar
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>>69642685
Even with the mixed reception i've read eveybody loved how was shot and looked googeus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRvJ5Odo0c8
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>>69653421
gorgeous*
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Ma'Rosa gets eviscerated. Not really a surprise.
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>>69646927
five star post
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Viggo corrupting the youth
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Why is Peter Bradshaw so based?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vNwB_Leiac

I wouldn't write off Personal Shopper for the Palm d'Or.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hghXP4F3Qs
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>>69653865
twitter reaction seems pretty positive?
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>>69654137
http://www.todaslascriticas.com.ar/cannes/2016

Why is Gustavo Beck such a dick?
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>>69654334
lmao

Is he the Brazilian Armond?
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>>69654137
Why do people always fanboy out so hard for films they might like?

This isn't necessarily aimed at this post in particular, but I've seen so many stupid comments like "The Handmaiden is the frontrunner for the Palme" and stupid nonsense like that. It's cool that Peter Bradshaw enjoyed it, and it's cool that you like him as a writer. Genuinely, I mean that. But the fact is that The Handmaiden is the (near) unanimous second-lowest scoring film across like 5 or 6 different polls. Personal Shopper is faring much better, but again, negative reactions outweighed positive ones by like 3 to 1. I'm not writing anything off because the jury is just 7 random people who vote for a film they want to win, more for publicity's sake than anything, but these are clearly not the frontrunners.

TL;DR Fuck off Park/Refn fanboys.

>>69654292
So-called "highbrow" critics all dislike it. Even someone like Mike D'Angelo (whom I normally try to be the polar opposite of) wrote a pretty bad blurb. Some of the trades seem to call it a well-crafted piece of neorealism. Honestly, if it does well on something like the Screen grid I'll shit myself.
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>>69654473
>"highbrow critics"
kek
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>>69654473
he got booed at the award ceremony when Kinatay won so I don't think Cannes critics have much love for him in general.
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>1. "THE NEON DEMON" (Nicholas Anders Refn) [8.83/6 0.9]

Woah, what the fuck. It's good?
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>>69654700
GET FUCKING HYPE
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>>69653865
Who wants to warch a pinoy movie about people watching the rain?
Stop filipino filmmakers quota in festivals now
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>>69654694
Charles Bramesco @intothecrevasse
MA' ROSA: the family that deals crystal meth together stays together. An urgent work of neorealism just as relevant for American viewers.

Charles Bramesco @intothecrevasse
Mendoza shoots like an embedded reporter, shoving his camera right into turbulence at the street level. Fuck the police.

Tim Grierson @TimGrierson
MA' ROSA: Almost Romanian in its real-time depiction of a family's drug bust and its fallout. Scuzzily compelling with some pathos. #Cannes

vs

Blake Williams @Astrostic
Ma' Rosa (3.4): I don't trust anyone this committed to ugliness.

Mike D'Angelo @gemko
Ma' Rosa (Mendoza): 43. Resisted the effort to push my empathy in one direction. Also, somebody please buy Mendoza a decent camera.

Diego Batlle @dmbatlle
Hoy brilló el brasileño MENDONÇA (Kleber, debería llamarse CLEVER), pero lo del filipino MENDOZA no fue nada Brillante... #Cannes2016

[Which basically reads the Mendonca film shone bright, and the Mendoza not so brilliant]
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>>69654700
Where you found that? The movie hasn't been shown yet
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>>69654473
>But the fact is that The Handmaiden is the (near) unanimous second-lowest scoring film across like 5 or 6 different polls
Third lowest. American Honey and Mal de Pierres are lower.
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>>69654836
more like ethnic neorealist quota. The philippines has a great underground scene that isn't all brutalist poverty porn.
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>>69655043
>ethnic neorealist burtalist poverty porn
This shit only exists to play at film festivals, right? Nobody actually cares about the umpteenth brown/poor person miserablism film
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>>69654862
>relevant

Translation: shit.
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>>69654935
Apichat: Mal de pierres < Ma'Rosa < American Honey < The Handmaiden

Screen (being a trade publication, I consider this the most representative of mainstream critical consensus): Mal de pierres < The Handmaiden

IonCinema: Mal de pierres < American Honey < Personal Shopper < The Handmaiden

ICS: Mal de pierres < The Handmaiden

LFF: American Honey < The Handmaiden

It isn't doing well.
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>>69655316
I'm not saying it's doing well. It's just not second worse in some of them

>Screen
What is that?
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>>69655155
Dardennes keep making the same film and keep getting praised for it so it's probably attractive for other directors to put an ethnic spin on it. toothless, masturbatory neorealism in general is the problem, not brown people.
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>>69654862
is Mike D'Angelo the guy who hosts the weekly film show with Ignatiy? Christ he's boring.
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>>69655407
ScreenDaily/Screen International. The grid is here: http://www.screendaily.com/festivals/cannes/cannes-jim-jarmuschs-paterson-impresses-screen-jury-grid/5104072.article?blocktitle=LATEST-CANNES-HEADLINES&contentID=43707 and features the most prominent names of any polls. Manohla Dargis of the NY Times/Pullitzer winner/whatever was on it but seems to have withdrawn.

>>69655652
I don't think so? Not sure, but my gripe with him is he is outright aggressive towards any film that doesn't have a clearly defined narrative. ie the antithesis of art film
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>>69655783
>>69655652
>I don't think so? Not sure, but my gripe with him is he is outright aggressive towards any film that doesn't have a clearly defined narrative. ie the antithesis of art film

He's always been a turbopleb.
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HOW CAN ONE MAN BE SO COOL?

I'd be perfectly fine with Paterson winning.
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>>69655783
Justin Chang isn't part of Variety anymore?
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>>69656336
Yeah, it was "big news". And by that I mean not really

http://www.thewrap.com/film-critic-justin-chang-leaves-variety-to-join-la-times/
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>>69654868

look at the op links
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>>69655909
>daily reminder he appeared on zombie simpsons to shill his hipster cred
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>>69654700
letterboxd fanboy, the site you're mentionning take the letterboxd votes in account so it's kinda shit
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>>69655909
Looking good for 70. No longer prematurely grey.
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>>69656955
I don't think all of them are just fanboys. I heard there was an advance screening in LA, and if you dig up those ratings some of those guys are industry. The other half are probably fanboys.
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>>69657296
Yes, i think most of them are geniune, but by putting letterboxd ratings on your site, it means everyone can vote, including people who haven't seen it and it leaves the gates for manchildren wars open. So i wouldn't trust the rating on this site.
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>>69657296
The consensus is small, but at least looks ok
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>>69654862
>Mendoza shoots like an embedded reporter, shoving his camera right into turbulence at the street level. Fuck the police.
savage
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>>69659422
that's not a slam?
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>>69659445
Yes
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>>69659628
what
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>Refn doesn't yell "Action!" to start a scene, instead preferring "Violence, motherfuckers!"

>This isn't exactly new: On "Drive" he would proclaim, "Let's fuck."

http://www.indiewire.com/article/the-neon-demon-nicolas-winding-refn-elle-fanning-verbal-jabs-models-20160514

Absolutely based.
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>>69659684
Next step he uses a gun instead of a clap like good old Sam
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>>69654473
>So-called "highbrow" critics

Oh fuck off.
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>>69660514
I don't necessarily call them that, nor do they give themselves that title. But if people like to create a dichotomy and lump things like experimental film as "highbrow", then so be it.
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>>69644537
Horse Money
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>>69654137
Peter Bradshaw is fucking cancer. Almost worse than D'Angelo.
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>>69660887
Just call them pretentious faggots.
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>>69660887
Whatever. They are completely different things. The dichotomy isn't justified regarding critics.

And D'angelo isn't "outright aggressive" to non-narrative. His favourites include stuff like Leviathan (2012) and Jeanne Dielman among others. It's clearer to say he doesn't actively seek out avant-garde.
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>>69661997
He is aggressive. I don't have anything offhand, but I've seen him constantly snark about Cinema Scope and Locarno, I've seen numerous blurbs of him trashing a film for being from that sort of aesthetic. It's clear going through his ratings that 95% of the things he likes are (often straightforward) narratives. That's cool, but not particularly for me.
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>>69636008
1. It's Such A Beautiful Day
2. The Master
3. Grand Budapest Hotel
4. The Lobster
5. Inherent Vice
6. Computer Chess
7. Moonrise Kingdom
8. Ponce de Leon
9. Upstream Color
10. Entertainment
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>>69662878
>upstream color
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>>69662347
He snarks about everything. I can't say I agree that he is against non-narrative because of those particular dislikes.
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>>69662930
2d4u
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up
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>>69665061
day's over, thread's dead, cu in 6 hours m8
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