Hey guys /tg/ here with a friendly reminder this scene makes no sense and that a fortified location like the wall that cannot be surrounded and has 2k men to defend it could not be taken easily by 5k men even if they had seige engines. It would take months of careful planning for Ramsey to take the wall andecor that even if he did everyone would hate him for ssaulting the wall and killing the Lord commander of the nights watch.
but what if ramsey had ridiculous plot armor and favoritism from the writers
>>69606162
Jon's plot armor is even thicker. He literally came back to life after dying.
>>69606052
Castle black is only fortified from north, not from south
>>69606052
The wall has no defenses when attaked from the south
>>69606213
>>69606248
/thread
>>69606248
>climb up the wall
>loose arrows on the shitty wooden "undefended" courtyard
and that's it
Go take a shower /tg/, cut your hair while you're at it.
Stop collecting your magic and Yugioh cards, put your Heroclix away and go get a job.
They could just starve them out. Castle Black probably relies a lot on the northern kingdoms for supply which could easily be cut off. Also it seems a lot less fortified facing the south than it is facing the north, as evidenced by how easily the wildlings were able to bust down the gate.
>>69606213
>>69606248
What about the fact that they can literally get on top of the wall? Also you seem to be forgetting that preparations could be made easily in the amount of time it takes Ramsey to throw 5k men to a miles away destination.
>>69606537
>>69606307
and what good is it going to do them sitting on top the wall without food or water or heat?
>>69606537
Its called a siege
Ramsey would have supply lines
Jon would not
>>69606052
but they don't care about defending, they just want to save Rickon you dumb fuck
>>69606833
>water
Snow is everywhere family
>food
They are stocked up just fine. No one has said otherwise. Plus the wildlings know how to hunt in the north.
>heat
Nigga the entirety of castle black is made of wood. Tear some shit down, its a siege, it's not supposed to be enjoyable.
Send a raven out to literally anyone saying that castle black is under siege by the Boltons and wait for reinforcements. Let the Bolton army have a good time getting up the wall.
Literally only thing that needs to be DONE before the Boltons get there in this case is make a way to get down the other side of the wall.
>>69607052
>I fucked up and didn't think this through but I'm going to pretend that I did
>>69606960
Literally all they have to do is hold out for reinforcements from the everyone who would defend them.
>>69606211
That will happen in the books too.
Ramsay beating Stannis probably won't, much less with 20 good men. Show ramsay has batman with a week of prep time plot armor.
>>69607052
The castle isn't protected from the south......
>>69607052
Are you retarded
>>69607052
You need to think before posting m8
>>69607129
But the wall is a natural defensive position. Sit on top of it and wait for friendlies. Just take whatever you need with you when you go up.
>>69607052
Wall. North. Boltons. South. Why the fuck would Westeros build the wall to protect Westeros from Westeros? What do you even think the wall is there for?
>>69606211
You literally can't call plot armor if the character died. His returning is just another storyline.
>>69606052
ok
1. they have rickon and plan to flay him alive
2. castle black's southern wall is 20 feet tall at best and all of wood
3. they don't have food left to sustain a siege
4. you're a fucking retard
>>69606052
but Ramsay clearly baits them into offensive mode, since he knows that
>>69606372
Castle Black has the Gift, it's independent from the North
The Gift is full of wildlings working for their survival and the Night's Watch for saving them from the White Walkers
>>69607245
Nigga the tip of the wall is huge. You could easily put everyone up there and just kill anyone who tried to use the elevator from the south.
>>69607216
They'd be suffering massive attrition compared to the boltons, who can also follow them up the wall. They don't have enough arrows or men to properly suppress the boltons
>>69607109
reinforcements that could take years, whilst you are sitting on top of the wall, all your supplies are at the bottom, the Boltons walk right in from the south side that has no defences and now no men (because they are all on top of the wall) and takes all your supplies.
>>69606052
Last time I checked, it only took 4 Large Onagers blasting a wall down, and 6 bands of shock cavalry in wedge formation for me to take a castle with a larger defending force.
Checkmate, kiddo.
>>69607052
>Literally only thing that needs to be DONE before the Boltons get there in this case is make a way to
>get down the other side of the wall.
>where the white walkers are
>the whole reason the wildlings came south in the first place
>why don't they just hide on the other side of the wall
>>69606052
If you don't want to attack the wall a plan might be to send a taunting letter to goad someone stupid enough to come to you.
>>69607295
So they're all just going to live for months on top of a giant piece of ice with no protection from the elements in the middle of winter?
>>69607052
>the entirety of castle black is made of wood. Tear some shit down
are you fucking retarded
>>69607109
>>69606537
>>69607052
God you're retarded.
>>69606052
And what happens when the White Walkers show up from the North?
Castle Black.
CASTLE Black.
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THAT MEANS THERE IS A FUCKING DEFENSIVE POSITION AT THIS LOCATION, YOU PLEBS.
>>69606052
The wall isn't all that fortified on the southern side, though.
Why would it be?
>>69606052
Ransay is tactical genius. He needs only20 good men
>>69607298
The only thing getting people to the top of the wall is a shitty elevator.
>>69607298
I don't know about not having enough arrows or men. Historically 2k men was enough to hold off a siege for months. Especially from a small force of less that 5k men (assuming ramsey keeps some men at home to protect his lands)
>>69607311
Supplies should be taken up top in the time it takes Bolton to get there. Other things need to be done too but with 2k able men that won't be hard. As for reinforcements taking years, where the hell are you get an annual measurement? It shouldn't take more than a week or two if they come from the middle of westeros
THEY SHOULD JUST TAKE THE WALL AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!
>>69607505
There are like 13 castles mate. Most have ways up.
>>69607482
>I am literally retarded
we know, anon. we know.
>>69606052
Absolutely. But thats the point. Thats why he pretty much forces him out of the defensive position
>>69607482
And there are WHITE WALKERS coming from the other side. Do you really think it's a good idea to fortify yourself in a location surrounded by TWO armies?
>>69607505
Add to the fact, all Ramsay has to do is destroy the elevator from beneath to trap them all up there & goodbye entire Jonforce.
>>69606307
Exactly just haul up all of the food/firewood to the top.
Plus they can use the wall as a highway to the other forts.
Or they could just take apart all the armor they have and put it on wun wun.
Indestructible giant warmachine living flesh tank .
>>69606052
they have their brother dumbass
I don't think you understand; Ramsay has good men.
>>69607617
They could just run over to the other forts tho.
>>69607380
Like I said, sieges are historically not very fun.
>>69607437
>>69607592
Then hopefully the enemy of my enemy is my friend and now it's 7k men vs the white walkers.
>>69607617
Read the thread
There are multiple ways up and down the wall.
>>69606052
Plus there are politics. Everybody will shit on you if you actually attack the wall
>>69607505
It took Torrhen Stark a year to gather just the Northern banners in order to march against Aegon the conqueror
Westeros is massive mate
>>69607661
How many?
>>69607711
>expecting Jon to ally with the guy who raped his sister and took his brother captive
>>69607637
>just make a bunch of massive fires on top of a wall made of ice
what could go wrong
>>69607754
Image incase you dont understand the scale
>>69606052
probably been said already but Castle Black isn't supposed to have any enemies or anyone to attack it because it's supposed to be something that everyone supports because they pretty much serve everyone south of them. They're like the international space station of GoT except someone is there that a country really really wants dead
It's got no defenses to the south because it shouldn't ever have to
>>69607829
And yet CIA travels it in days.
>>69607754
But that was because of the political climate, not the geography. Granted, the north is the largest part of westerns, but it took 2 days for Jon to get from westerns to Castle black. So it would be 4 days to cross the north for anyone coming in from the south. But those from the Eryie could just sail around.
>>69607592
>Do you really think it's a good idea to fortify yourself in a location surrounded by TWO armies?
Punished Jon is hot looking
>>69607888
Paying attention to the show for travel times
what insanity is this
>>69606537
>Take two thousand men up a 700 foot ice wall
>and a giant
>Ramsay shows up with 250 parties of 20 good men
>Laughs maniacally and cuts off the winch
>Leaves
>>69607829
what the fuck. I had no idea it was that big.
So, is Sansa preggers then or wot?
>>69607954
I own the board game, it's lots of fun and basically will force you to memorize the westeros map.
>>69607994
Nope
>>69607994
is sansa pregnant, or is sophie turner just a fat chav slag?
Castle Black cant be fortified. Are you retarded? Have you seen wide shots?
All you need is ladder and a constant barrage of arrows and you taken this "castle" in a day.
>>69607870
Why do men do this? Why reply when you haven't read the thread?
penis-posters OUT
>>69607994
God, I hope not. Jon should be the one to fill up that ginger pussy.
>>69607888
4 days to cross the north, not a chance mate, 4 months maybe, and that is a lone traveller, marhing an army that needs supply lines etc
You are looking at almost a year to cross the north
>>69608020
I thought Ramsay knutted in her moist cocoon?
>>69606052
He doesnt mean defending castle black, you utter retard. It cant even house more than 100 men let alone 2k.
you're also forgetting about the vale
>>69607959
welp that about does it
>>69607959
They can just stroll several hundred miles along the top of the wall in gale force winds to Eastwatch. Stop nit-picking.
>>69607711
>There are multiple ways up and down the wall.
multiple = barely more than 1, with an army of 2000 + wildling elders + children atop as well.
Stick to your head canon pleb.
>>69607738
>Everybody will shit on you if you actually attack the wall
this. It would be an easy way to unite all your enemies against you
>>69607685
>They could just run over to the other forts tho.
There's only 2 more than are manned & functional, I'm sure Ramsay could spare a good man or two to each one to fuck them up, & set them alight.
>>69608285
The wall is alone every body is to busy fighting amongst themseles to care about the NW anymore
Even when shown a zombie hand the crown didnt give a shit
>>69608256
There's like a bunch of other forts anon
They probably have elevators too
The wall is a big ass highway
>>69608285
Who exactly would give a shit in the current political climate? The Lannisters and Tyrrels have their hands full in King's Landing right now. Dorne is busy being retarded, the Vale is already moving against the Boltons anyway, the Iron Islands are still rebelling and the Riverlands are generally up the ass.
>>69608117
I just did the math. The north is give or take 770 miles long. At 2.5 miles an hour, the north can be crossed in 13 days. That's not considering resting or horses. So all in all it isn't really that bad.
>>69608448
Probably had other elevators
The wall hasnt been properly funded since Jaehaerys
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>it's a LF teleports episode
>>69608448
Give one good man a torch & set each alight.
>>69608493
Fair enough not going to argue math
Its still not an easy thing to do and irrelivant anyway
Other than the Vale all the other armies are too busy dealing with their own shit
>>69608485
Most people in the political climate would drop what they "had their hands full" with to send people to defend the wall. The wall is very important to almost everyone in the entirety of westeros except maybe the more southern places like dorn.
>>69607817
Like a wall of fucking magical ice is gonna melt because of some campfires
>>69608440
Yeah but he'd have to split up his forces and and sending them to either end of the wall will take a lot of time
In the meanwhile everyone will hate him for attacking the wall.
Jon & Co could just sit and jerk off on top of the wall while he gets rekt
>>69606052
>/tg/ here
>/tg/ Traditional Games
>Games
>like what children play
>he thinks this makes him an authority on defending fortified positions
>>69608628
Would they
No one but Stannis cared enough last time
>>69608593
The Vale is on their way to fuck Ramsay's shit up tho
>>69608446
>>69608485
oh shit, I guess you guys have a point. They are really ignorant with the north front and the whole immigration problem.
But still, it really wouldnt earn him any favors. It would be a pretty bold move
>>69608712
I'm also /his/. But your ignorance of the /tg/ board culture is showing. We're the biggest mix of /k/, /his/, and /fit/.
>>69608628
Kind of like how everybody ignored the political climate and their own self-interest to rally behind Stannis, who was the one true king?
>>69608628
yeah, right. what show have you been watching?
>>69608723
Thats why i mentioned other than the vale everyone else is to preoccupied with their own stuff to are about the NW
>>69608789
What's your point? /k/ has never assaulted the Wall either.
>>69608712
thats some bad logic
>>69608789
>/k/, /his/, and /fit/
I thought you were said you were /tg/ not /lgbt/
>>69608848
Sorry
in add mode
didn't read that reply properly
>>69608789
Sounds gay.
>>69608929
It is, trust me, it's my home board. I forgother to mention it's also widely considered /d/-lite.
>>69607829
Bullshit
George said Ibben was as big as Iceland
Which makes Essos pretty much as big as Europe
>>69609162
So its even bigger which helps my argument
Takes ages to cross
>>69607793
It would make a good episode.
>>69608648
Who's this jizz wiz?
>>69607246
It's built up well, you know he will be back stabbed because he's pissed a few people off and revived because red witch is there. But it also feels very orchestrated by the way of 'I've got this character who really, really wants to stay loyal to an oath, I can't/won't have him break it. So I'll just kill him and rez him. Even though you could just say "thanks for the rez, I'll continue being lord commander"'.
Like seriously how will the books reconcile him viewing this as completing his oath?
>>69606052
Bruh. Castle Black is intentionally easily conquerable from the south. It's meant to defend against the North and be entirely exposed to the south. They exist to serve the realm, and as such are completely at it's behest.
Fucking dipshit showfags just endlessly, desperately reaching for things to shitpost about.
And not only that, but they don't intend to wait for the Bolton forces to march on them. They intend to recruit Northern houses and attack them south of the Wall. If you thing 5v2 is off balance, imagine the 5 being in the most defensible castle in the North, and the 2 being outside.
>>69611041
Yeah, trying to attack the Boltons is just suicide unless you have 10k or more men.
>>69611041
Actually didn't they used to be completely fortified but they got rid of the southern fortifications after the Night's King bull shit?
>>69611358
but what if jon snow had twenty-ONE good men?
>>69611358
Hopefully things'll play out like they do in the books and infighting inside Winterfell causes the Bolton forces to have to march out to keep from killing each other.
>>69611431
Yeah I mean the Wall is way older than the Iron Throne. I don't remember when they were supposed to have made Castle Black at the behest of the south.
