>all those namedrops and direct nods/references to other MCU movies brought up in casual conversation
>all that extra shit which probably 50% or less of the audience knows or cares to know about
At which point does the average moviegoer's ability to watch these films become nullified because they can't keep up with how interconnected the universe is becoming?
Can't imagine what it'll be like come Infinity War.
How hard is it to watch 1 or 2 movies per year?
>>69309984
>watching the third movie in a series you are unfamiliar with
????
>>69309984
>watch these films become nullified because they can't keep up with how interconnected the universe is becoming?
you don't need people to follow the plot. in fact you don't need a plot at all. remember transformers 4 made a billion bucks.
>>69309984
They mentioned The Hulk and Thor. Are you fucking retarded or something?
>>69309984
>implying your not raking in more money because people just binge stuff on netflix every year
>>69310061
yeah, because I'd know who Tony Stark, Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet Witch, etc. just by watching the previous Captain America movies.
that's kind of my point
>>69310129
That proves my point. What the fuck are you even trying to communicate, faggot?
>>69310166
You don't have to know who they are
>>69310166
If your not caught up on those characters chances are that you aren't who marvel is directing their movies toward bud.
The continuity is spread out amongst dozens of movies.
>>69309984
Yeah my dad had no idea what the fuck they were talking about half the time since the last Marvel movie he watched was Winter Soldier.
>tfw you can't watch Captain America movies just for Captain America without all this other cinematic universe shit shoehorned in
>>69309984
did anyone understand what Ant-Man was about when he said:
>"does anyone have any orange slices"
imo the only thing that was confusing was John Slattery. everyone I knew forgot he played howard stark and I had to explain to my friends who he was. should have used dominci cooper desu.
>>69310396
I'm not even autistic and I don't know what he meant by that.
Help pls.
>>69310396
>>69310556
I didn't get it either. But apparently in sports they give orange slices to players.
>>69310304
I guess, that is an argument. But then you won't understand their banter, or worse yet, their motivations. but I guess the Russos handled that well. I just had to delete a sentence where I argued about how someone not knowing much about Scarlet Witch's background could cause some confusion, but they conveyed all the important shit about her very well, and it was a compelling standalone character arc.
>>69310309
i'm not arguing for me personally. I've watched all marvel flicks, but it's starting to get apparent continuity and consistency will trump everything else in these phase 3 movies.
>>69310353
The Winter Soldier was handled perfectly in that regard imo. Black Widow wasn't an asset or an Avenger; she was a side character and treated as such. Same with Falcon. But in CW, characters appear just as plot devices.
>>69310396
no, but that's the scene that garnered the most laughs both times I saw the movie in the theater
>>69310396
>>69310556
my whole theatre was silent through that part
>>69310396
he used all his energy, he needed some sugar.
>>69310396
I think it's because he said that when he tried to grow his ass , he fainted. So now he feels himself fading and ask if anyone got something sour to lick.
>tfw no one in my theater laughed at any of the intelligent jokes like "everyone has a gimmick now"
>>69310744
noice
>We had to make a decision early that we were OK losing virgin audience members,” Stephen McFeely, co-writer of “Civil War,” told TheWrap during a wide-ranging interview with writing partner Christopher Markus.
>“If you don’t know some of these movies before you walk in you might be lost, but hopefully you’ll still be entertained,” McFreely said. “We can’t do a ‘previously in the Marvel Cinematic Universe,’ because it will take 25 minutes.”
>>69310724
>no, but that's the scene that garnered the most laughs both times I saw the movie in the theater
Seriously? It got translated into 'chocolate bar' here, and I don't really remember people laughing. What's so funny about orange slices?
The scenes that got the most laughs out of the viewers were consistently Sam/Bucky ones, btw.
>>69311047
it wouldn't kill them to do a "previously in the MCU" alongside the rest of the previews, honestly...
>>69311134
yeah I wouldn't mind it desu
I don't think it would take 25 minutes
>>69311047
But that's their entire audience!
>tfw me and my dad were the only ones who laughed at the The Manchurian Candidate joke
>>69311332
Zing
who's gonna have the biggest roles in Infinity War part 1?
I'd wager:
>of utmost significance:
Iron Man (thanks to RDJ)
Strange
Thor
>very important but not plot significant:
Cap
Hulk
Scarlet Witch
>plot significant but not standout:
Vision
Captain Marvel
>screen stealers but zero relevance otherwise:
Spider-Man
Black Panther
Meme-Lord
>only there because they have to be:
Bucky
Black Widow
Hawkeye
>2 minutes worth of screen time at best
Ant-Man
The Wasp
>glorified cameo, if appearing at all tier
War Machine
any of the Defenders/Netflix characters
>>69311134
>>69311218
They did it rather well in TWS with Cap visiting the museum.
>>69311467
I think Spiderman and Thor and Cap will be the stars. Vision will probably be killed for his stone. And I could see RDJ dying, because he's grown tired of the role.
>>69309984
>Watch Iron Man 3
>"Ever since the big dude with the hammer fell from the sky-"
Into the trash it goes.
>>69310857
Yeah, my community is White too. Shit's nice - the theater's packed but all you can hear is the movie because people are silent.
>>69311587
>he's grown tired of the role
He just said last month in an interview that he's up for doing one more Iron Man movie, which means extending his contract for at least 1 movie.
That's not growing tired of a role.
Even Chris Evans has said that he's open to renewing his contract for more movies after Infinity War.
I hope Black Panther is going to be a glorified Secret Avengers movie.
>>69311810
plus he's signed for spiderman
>>69309984
>At which point does the average moviegoer's ability to watch these films become nullified
My mother is 60 and she loved it. My parents went over the weekend. I lent them a copy of antman a week ago, but they missed a lot of other marvel films (including Ultron).
She still considers winter soldier to be the best marvel film (at least out of the ones she has seen).
If a 60 year old lady is keeping up just fine, what is your excuse?
Did anyone else think this movie was simply 'Captain America 3: The Avengers 3?'
I mean what the fuck
>>69310396
I think that losers at sport competitions get orange slices. They're basically participation awards.
The idea is that Ant-Man tried, but ultimately he was a loser.
>>69311888
I hope not, I hope T'challa is allowed one standalone adventure.
>>69312127
>I mean what the fuck
The 70s comics frequent juggled between captain america's duty as an avenger and his struggle to always do what was right. Sometimes they didn't always get along.
>>69312358
Dog, I get it
That doesn't mean it was necessarily well done or well told.
>when paul rudd's the best character in your movie
who excited for /ant-man and wasp/ here
>>69310058
A lot of films come out and you end up missing some dumbass this extends to the general audience
>>69310166
People have always brought in new characters by the 2nd or 3rd film. Even if those characters appeared in other films, it wouldn't really matter
>>69312074
It's almost as if an elderly person has a lot of spare fucking time
>>69312443
That is like watching days of future past and asking "am I watching a wolverine movie or an X-men movie"?
>yes
>>69309984
No joke, I got into Agents of SHIELD without having seen a single MCU film, I only got round to watching the first Iron Man and Avengers afterwards and am only now just catching up with the MCU up to Civil War. Sure some shit went over my head but I enjoyed it well enough, to your casual viewer it won't matter.
>>69312453
Hell yes, anon.
>more Giant-Man shenanigans
>Waspfu
>more ANTS
>>69309984
The people who make the arguments you make, OP, are generally people not at risk of what you are arguing. I'm sure you've seen enough Marvel movies to not have to worry about knowing them.
>>69312453
I feel like it won't be as good since Ant-Man was mostly done off of Wright's script.
>>69312682
hopefully Pym gets more screentime
>>69312772
>this meme again
>>69312772
This isn't true at all. Rudd and McKay rewrote almost the entire thing. You know the Luis storytelling scenes everyone likes to attribute to Wright? Added by McKay and Rudd.
marvel movies are just like harry potter movies or the hunger games now. if you jump in at #4, the movie is going to suck dick. they're all more like long, drawn out TV than movies now.
>>69313080
Well, TV is considerably higher quality than movies now so....
I didn't see Ant-Man or Ultron and had no troubles.
It's a pretty self-enclosed movie, like all Marvel movies. They are literally designed to be as accessible as possible. You don't need to watch all of them.
>all these people not getting what Antman means by orange slices.
It's as simple as recovering energy after a big effort, he even says he fainted the last time he tried getting so big. In many sports, like marathonds, you see people eating orange and such.
>>69309984
>At which point does the average moviegoer's ability to watch these films become nullified because they can't keep up with how interconnected the universe is becoming?
At no point because MCU watchers as actually smart and able to comprehend a story, unlike some other watchers of comic book movies...
>>69312772
Oh, stop sucking Wright's dick. Some of the shit from his script was pretty bad. Plus, once Reed took over and rewrites happened, we had good stuff put in like Luis's montages and the Microverse scene.
>>69313215
The internet is filled with nothing but sheltered NEETs
They don't play sports.
>>69310061
I only watched Winter Soldier & Ant-Man, before I went to see Civil War.
Idgaf about Iron Man, or those other losers.
Who really cares? Capeshit is, by definition, a shitty endeavour. People will just nod and laugh at the "zanny" dialog and "intense" action sequences.
>>69310166
Very few people have seen the Cap movies without seeing The Avengers.
I saw this movie with my mom, whom has only seen the first Avengers, and she followed just fine.
People don't need a ton of backstory for why some extra superheros pop up, and the nods are not so numerous as to actually effect the thoroughfare of the plot.
>le Marvel Cinematic Universe
>>69310396
>that's my secret captain
>I'm always high in vitamin C
>>69309984
You mean like watching BvS?
>MUH FUCKING META HUMAN SHITSTAINS WHO NOT A SINGLE PERSON KNOWS OR CARES ABOUT
>>69310396
>All these replies
Jesus Christ, did any of you ever go outside?
>>69314373
>DC thought people would get excited about Cyborg and Aquaman
>>69314415
I walked my dog twice, went to the gym, got coffee, and am now shitposting about comic movies on 4chan.
Fuck off.
>>69314415
(You)
I swear, this 'have a (you)' meme was the perfect invention for dealing with fuckwids like this
>>69311388
Shit dude me too. Based Stark delivering the obscure quips
>tfw had to explain my friend the joke
>>69314415
>go outside
>guy sprints past me
>pauses for breath
>whips an orange out of his jacket
>eats a slice and keeps running
Oh now I get it thanks man
>>69313149
>I didn't see Ant-Man
>>69314432
>tfw DC thinks people will care about a nigger robot when there's already war machine.
>>69310396
in sports leagues especially for children you are given orange slices after the game and/or during half time they are sliced because eating an unsliced orange would be inconvenient
The whole movie I had some retard in front of me who would just announce obvious things
>EMP in box goes off
EMP! YEP ITS AN EMP
>Stark memory
IRON MAN AS A KID? YEP
>Manchurian candidate joke
BRAINWASHED LIKE THE MOVIE HARHAR
>"I know that road"
WHERE BUCKY WAS YEP
>>69314665
lmao
>>69311047
>they don't want the virgin audience
>they leave them for DC
DC BTFO
>>69314432
the aquaman scene was hilariously bad
i feel bad for the actors over at DC desu
you know deep down they wish they were over at marvel
![1462574986811[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m4rlDHY.jpg "1462574986811[1].jpg")
Simply put, you have a low cinematic IQ, or some sort of Stockholm Syndrome, from overexposure to bland, safe, PC and soulless mass-produced blockbusters, which has conditioned you into accepting the absolute lowest common denominator standards in filmmaking, writing and cinematography as somehow acceptable, when you should in fact feel nothing but contempt or disgust for any Kevin Feige-conceived product.
Even strictly in the field of capeshit entertainment, where the bar has always been pretty low, since they're primarly a children media, the level of genuine quality and creative abilities (which comes from studios giving freedom to an auteur with a strong personality and vision towards the material) has kept dropping since the 90's.
When Raimi's Darkman/Spider-Man, Del Toro's Blade 2/Hellboy, Burton's Batman 2 or Bird's The Incredibles offered innovative and playful set pieces, meaningful and relevant themes, each with a very distinct, appropriate tone and truly cinematic aesthetics (simply compare the lighting or editing to today's equivalents), none of these qualities are to be found in Civil War or any of the previous MCU entries. This is why Edgar Wright got fired from Ant-Man. This is why Feige keeps hiring visionless point-and-shoot directors who come from TV or comedy, colorblind cinematographers and art/set design teams who seem to be in love with grey, sterile hangars for some unexplainable reason. Action scenes are now being conceived by CGI teams months before the movie begins shooting and all follow the exact same formula.
Even as a child, I couldn't imagine being dazzled or amused by those turds, as they're utterly devoid of any charm, colors, magic or imagination.
>>69314959
>>69311105
>It got translated into 'chocolate bar' here
where do you live thats fatter than America? Mexico?
>>69313133
I think you mean /tv/ is considerably higher quality than movies now
>>69314959
>>69314665
I heard at least 3 different people whisper about Bucky killing Tony's parents when the tape started playing and we saw the parents.
Why were they all so forgiving when Hawkeye turned evil because he was brainwashed, but not so forgiving when Winter Soldier had the same thing done.
>>69315368
He killed "muh Martha."
Why do people like MCU Tony Stark?
He's a violent, irrational crybaby who tried to murder an innocent man because "muh mom" and would've killed Captain America to do so.
>>69315368
He was only brainwashed for a few days, I'm pretty sure he didn't kill anyone, and it was clear that he was snapped out of it afterward.
Bucky was brainwashed for decades, was responsible (from the govt's point of view) for countless high profile assassinations, including Howard Stark's, and he can be instantly re-brainwashed if someone knows the words.
>>69315601
Tony Stank is the main antagonist of Civil War.
>>69314959
That's some fucking stale pasta
>>69315601
>implying Captain Cuckerica doesn't deserve to die
>implying none of those idiot heroes doesn't deserve to die
>>69316111
If you're going to spout a shitty, tired meme, at least put SOME thought into it.
Captain Americuck rolls off the tounge better.
>>69314373
>You mean like watching BvS?
Hey, I just finished it. It was more entertaining than... MCU. MCU BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!
>>69310857
>>69311809
>half theater filled with black people
>other half filled with loud teenagers
I got to hear about twenty minutes of the whole movie
>>69317077
Move out of Niggerville.
>>69309984
>At which point does the average moviegoer's ability to watch these films become nullified because they can't keep up with how interconnected the universe is becoming?
fuck the casuals
>>69317077
>not realizing you're no different from them
Being this far into the cape genre and you're still going to theaters to watch them. Yeah you're a "nigger"
>>69314555
Oh shit, I fucking lost it
TIME FOR LITERAL POTTERY MOMENTS
>>69318889
>>69319051
The Marvel Studios fandom is full of generic cunts who try to seem quirky and unique by identifying heavily with a slightly offbeat fandom such as the Marvel Cinematic Universe "But wait, that's actually incredibly mainstream and not offbeat at all!" you say. And you're right. But actual offbeat things don't give as much 'nerd' cred, and these things have more creative value than reality TV so people on Tumblr can make posts such as "Why are all girls nowadays such idiots who watch Jersey Shore? I'm very unique because I like nerdy intelligent stuff like Iron Man 3, and I like quirky men like Tom Hiddleston and Mark Ruffalo teehee, look at this repeating gif of 0.5 seconds of Loki doing a thing with his face and a theory about how all the Marvel movies are connected and Thanos is going to collect all the Infinity Gems except in the movies none of them are really "gems" at all and here is some fanart of all the Avengers gender swapped and with less sexist costumes and they all have the exact same fucking face with that bulbous red nose also did you know that I am a girl who likes superheroes I know it's hard to believe but it is true I AM AN AVENGERS look at this gif of Tony Stark raising his eyebrow, anyway The Avengers is sexist because Black Widow's costume is too tight and unrealistic for a special agent so here is a redesign of her in figure hiding combat fatigues because I am progressive. Does anyone else think that Hulk and Iron Man would make a good couple? TEE HEE I LOVE GAYS BECAUSE I AM SO TOTALLY NOT HOMOPHOBIC EVEN THOUGH I TREAT GAYS AS AN AMUSING NOVELTY Rocket Racoon for president!"
>>69310396
youth sporting events kids are given orange slices on the sidelines and at the half/break because it helps provide electrolytes and hydrate the youths that are too dumb to drink some gatorade
>>69310692
>>69310556
>>69310396
>>69310831
>>69314415
>>69314619
Spotted the people who never ever suffered from a hangover.
>>69310207
"All those" generally doesnt mean two examples, retard.
>>69317077
Yeah, how did they even come to appreciate such a refined piece of contemporary classics.
>>69315047
>Oh shit, i have nothing to counter! Quick, to the "Meme webms" folder!
>>69315177
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
>>69310396
Orange slices replenish electrolytes without having to make you pee
>>69319874
>implying there's a an argument to strawman
>>69310396
The real question is, DID anyone have any orange slices?
>>69319488
See I knew about both, and was confused as to which one he was referring to.
Based Antman.
>>69319874
>praise Spider-Man for being innovative
Maybe it was for it's genre.
>>69309984
These aren't obscure comic book references to please neckbearded man-children. They are references to other blockbuster movies and franchises that 90% of the audience has seen. Why would you be going to see the third installment of a franchise, which is part of the largest-ever cinematic universe, without seeing any of the other movies in that franchise/universe.
Honestly, if you only saw the 2 Avengers movies and Winter Soldier you would have no trouble following this movie
>>69309984
It's kinda like no one reads comics these days because they have been going for over 50 years now and no one has time for that. MCU will probably last 15-20 years or so, and then they'll reboot it.
Why didn't anybody fucking die? So many heroes die in the comic, including Cap. I'm not saying we have to kill off half the characters, but they wouldn't even kill Warmachine.
That itself would have been a powerful moment that added another sense of gravity to the film but no. Once Don Cheadle survived his 800 foot drop I knew there was no risk of anybody dying for the rest of the movie.
>>69320358
Well Iron Man survived a fall from space through a wormhole, so don't look for realism.
Also, these movies are cash cows, so I'm guessing no agent is letting their client's character die any time soon. It's called the Hugh Jackman strategy
>>69317077
>theater near me is between my town and niggerland
>purposely started going to a different theater to avoid all the blacks
I can just picture them all whooping and hollering at the Giant Man scene. Thank god I went somewhere else.
>>69320465
I'm not surprised, mostly dissapointed. I definitely went in expecting at LEAST one death.
>>69312640
can't spare 5 hours a year to watch movies
>>69315780
>How many agents did I..?
>Don't do that to yourself
He definitely did.
>>69319177
I'll give you props for that one, was pretty good.
>>69310396
>>69312326
losers? orange slices are mid snack or after the game for both teams.. cleary you werent a chad at highscool, go play some sports fag
>>69309984
This is literally episode 10 in the Marvel Movie Show. would you start watching any other show at episode 10?
