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>>69230133
Tarkovsky is nowhere near the greats even though Andrei Rublev is great edition
What does /film/ think of Arrow Video?
https://www.youtube.com/user/ArrowVideoUK/videos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrow_Films_releases#Arrow_Video
>>69230133
Which version is better:
La Chienne (Renoir) or Scarlet Street (Lang)?
The Magnificent Ambersons and The Trial are both better films than Citizen Kane
>>69230222
I like Arrow. Nice mix of art and genre films.
>>69230272
F for Fake is better than anything he did exceptuating aaaaaaaah the french
>>69230272
Did they innovate visually the way Kane did though? You can't argue against the look of Kane.
>>69230222
do we really need 100 more mediocre giallo and yakuza
when we still don't have decent releases of S&S Top 250 movies?
>>69230133
for the 3 for ozu - why both Late Spring and An Autumn Afternoon? For a third representative film to cover more of his style, there should be a more overt comedy included (Good Morning, I Was Born, But..., Tokyo Chorus) or one of his more different subject matters (Floating Weeds, Equinox Flower)
For Herzog, I guess Aguirre, Grizzly Man, fitzcarraldo or my best fiend
>>69230321
By the time Ambersons came out Welles had already outgrown the influence of Greg Tolland though. Kane is more Tolland's movie, whereas everything afterward was Welles.
>>69230211
>Shitposters need not apply
can't you read?
>tfw I liked this film so much I'm literally moving there
>>69230359
>he gets his taste from sight and sounds
Yikes
This is why I'm glad film is not happening after all.
>>69230410
Ozu's 3 essentials should be Tokyo Story, the later Floating Weeds, and Good Morning
>>69230448
come onglurrbb
last days is where it's at
>>69230442
>denying that tarkovsky is jesus christ reincarnated is shitposting in r/film
>>69230448
enjoy having no job or money
>>69230448
>>69230493
>>69230522
that scene where eigeman is trying to fix the graffiti is one of best stillman scenes
>>69230480
Late Spring, I Was Born But, Floating Weeds
>>69230522
>implying I don't already have money
>implying I'm not a NYC WASP who can appreciate Stillman's filmography at the highest level
>>69230493
Last Days had too many characters
Who /shepitko/ here?
>>69230464
>complaining about not having releases of highly acclaimed films implies taking your taste from a list of highly acclaimed films
shitposter logic masterpiece
What did /film/ think of BvS, and the masterpieces of Zack Snyder in general?
>>69230133
What is your pick for Krzysztof Kieślowski's best work?
For me it is The Decalogue even though its basically 10 movies made for Polish TV.
>>69230587
do you speak catalan?
>>69230636
thanks for explaining what the decalogue is
>>69230448
>tfw i liked this movie so much i'm literally moving there
What did you lads think of L'Ascension du Chevalier Noir?
>>69230670
It could be something else, nigger
Jean-Claude Lauzon's Leolo is probably the best film to come out of Canada.
Why is this movie never talked about on /tv/?
>>69230587
last days is so wonderfully bittersweet tho
will agree that eigeman being sidelined for half the film was maybe not the best decision, but it's still basically perfect
what do you think about metropolitan?
>>69230616
Hollywood popcorn entertainment driven movies. They are fun but don't have much substance.
>>69230708
because that's not saying much
>>69230686
It's been discussed to death already.
>>69230694
did kieslowski direct another decalogue that weren't ten movies for polish tv?
>>69230708
Because Canada is a meaningless meme country that may as well not exist.
>>69230598
here, haven't seen Krylya yet
>>69230673
you don't get to bring memes.
>>69230636
I like Camera Buff (Amator) the most
>>69230448
Just watched the new BluRay with all the extras and commentary. So funny, so comfy. That score, the dialogue, Taylor Nichols lil dance scene, Based Eigeman. What a talent Stillman is. The socio-political themes were really, slyly poignant. I love all his films, but in it's own way this maybe has the most pathos? Love, politics, culture. The deleted scene in the American consulate following the bombing is really moving. And I was surprised to see they filmed a lot more of the terrorism angle, with another attack at the end, which was rightfully excised for tone, to be a bit more romantic than dramatic. Anyway, this Stillman box set is terrific. Love and Friendship soon.
>>69230133
Can I get some neo-noir recs?
I love the style but I have a hard time finding films that use it
>>69230887
dude blade runner lmao
>>69230587
>>69230869
>>69230718
what do stillman friends think of damsels in distress? excited for love and friendship?
>>69230718
Not that anon but the anon geeking out about Whit above, Metropolitan is a triumph, just delightful. Amazing dialogue, comfy, it's interesting to learn how cheaply (relatively) and smartly they shot it. Eigeman is GOAT, and the tone is just right. It was derided as glorifying the wealthy and stuff, but it was much smarter and more nuanced than that.
>>69230644
Na senpai I don't even know anywhere that teaches it. Gonna learn it when I get there
>>69230718
I liked Metropolitan because the SFRP was a pretty good microcosm for what was happening in the broader culture of America's upper class Manhattanites. Charlie lecturing people constantly about their ingroup but the girls had already mostly stopped caring about any kind of group consciousness. I doubt this was the case but the guy Sallie went with that night, the guy who had a place in southhampton, looked pretty jewish. I'd like to think that's a commentary on women selling themselves out.
Eigeman's character is the best of course, and he has the most to say besides Charlie. Like the other Stillman films, it's about a younger generation living in a time when old modalities are hollowed out, and they're left to pick up the pieces or ride the wave.
>>69230987
I didn't like it desu.
>>69230869
I've seen all that stuff yeah. I don't remember the consulate scene though. The parts they took out we're pretty awful, almost James Bond esque shots of people running down streets shooting at each other.
>>69230987
>what do stillman friends think of damsels in distress?
Somewhat of a lighter work, and maybe lesser in its way, but purposely so, still very good with elements of greatness. Love and Friendship should be great. It'll be nice to have Kate back delivering his dialogue.
>>69230887
Killing of a Chinese Bookie, The Long Goodbye, Night Moves
>>69230887
Brick is pretty comfy, desu family
>>69231063
>The parts they took out we're pretty awful, almost James Bond esque shots of people running down streets shooting at each other.
I do agree yes, really really glad he excised it, he said it was at Rob Reiner's urging. The consulate scene was brief, just showed them surveying the damage from inside, but set to that maudlin score, think they should have left it in honestly.
>>69230997
Good points. It's effective in portraying a very brief time in their lives. The weeks before Christmas and the weeks after, where, at that age, one can get swept up in a new group of friends, or status quo, or feel at home with these people. The reality is it's fleeting and after those weeks, effectively over. The final third or quarter after Nick leaves and Tom and Charlie are like, uh, now what, is really poignant, funny, sweet.
>discussing /film/s will now be confined to a general
Way to make /tv/ an even more obnoxious place. Now whenever I want to discuss some mildly obscure European release it won't even be possible to make a fucking thread without some faggot just going "LOL TAKE IT TO /FILM/ FEGIT XDDD"
>>69230887
A Most Violent Year
This book is really good for thinking about Stillman's films in more sociological or philosophical ways.
Essentially all the essays posit that Stillman uses comedy to portray people from a very mannered and deliberate background that struggle with modernity and living well within it. The characters are "at least aware of the rumor of the noble and the gracious, of the higher things that are properly human" and that his overall theme is one of "gentle hope"
>>69231301
At least the general wont 404 immediately or get shitposted to death like a single film thread usually would
>>69231301
Right, because this thread is the reason there are so many capeshit and meme threads
/film/ is a solution to a problem, not the problem itself, you whiny nigger
>>69230869
>Taylor Nichols lil dance scene
https://youtu.be/Bhnw_IdL0Dg
https://youtu.be/3ubQAunfwdo
Also what is it with Whit's accent/intonation/affect? It's charming, but I can't quite put my finger on it. It's almost like the mid-atlantic accent of old, but I guess it's an old upperclass NY thing? Similarly the older, for lack of a better word yuppie, that Tom and Charlie encounter at the bar has something close to it. Great scene.
>>69230598
>>69231317
Interesting, thanks.
I'm sort of unclear on what his new Austen book is or how it varies from the screenplay? It says it includes her text in full, but he finishes it.
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Friendship-Austens-Entirely-Vindicated/dp/0316294128
>>69230887
I know >>69230934 is trying to be all hipster and ironic, but yeah... Blade Runner really is the neo noir movie, anon. It's the epitome of the genre, and also a textbook film for the philosophical problems of consciousness and personal identity.
That kinography tho, the color palette makes me hard.
>>69230133
Really fucking nice job with the pastebin. Not The Big Lebowski for Coens? Feel free to tell me it doesn't fit, I haven't actually seen O Brother Where Art Thou
Kieslowski would be a good addition. Perhaps Three Colors: Blue, The Decalougue, and The Double Life of Verinique?
>>69231432
The old transatlantic accent was a lot more English sounding. The stillman ones are realistic even today. My grandparents speak that was as do I
IMHO, from worst to best,
>Ivan's Childhood < Solaris < Nostalghia < The Mirror < Stalker < Andrei Rublev < The Sacrifice
Anyone remotely agrees with this?
>>69231739
No. Best is objectively:
The Mirror > Nostalghia >> The Sacrifice/Andrei Rublev >>> Stalker >>> Solaris/Ivan's Childhood
Where do you download all these movies?
I want to check out some of them, but even the stuff on the "entry level arthouse" list is mostly unavailable.
I don't have access to a private tracker but are they actually on those?
>>69230988
absolutely right. was it really derided at the time? i don;t see how anyone could miss that it's (gently) making fun of these people, even as it allows us a very honest and sympathetic look at them
>>69231063
>>69231093
damn, damsels is one of my fav stillmans. days felt like a culmination (i guess it sort of was, or a peak if nothing else), damsels i thought was an extremely strong beginning, maybe even more so than metropolitan (it's so hard to say any stillman is better than the others, they're all so good)
>>69231317
huh, haven't read this yet, but will be sure to pick it up, thanks anon! sounds great, "gentle hope" is pretty much a perfect description
>>69231432
his accent sounds like upstate ny mixed with a sort of like gentry-type southern?, maybe virginian? i don't know, but it's great.
>>69231854
rutracker friend
I only watched Seven Samurai when I was a kid, is there any Kurosawa films should watch?
>>69231854
>I don't have access to a private tracker but are they actually on those?
Yes, all of them are.
>>69231897
>absolutely right. was it really derided at the time? i don;t see how anyone could miss that it's (gently) making fun of these people, even as it allows us a very honest and sympathetic look at them
I think critics in the know enjoyed it, but mainstream is was seen as a defense of this imagined preppy upper class. Stillman gets defensive about it, and a lot of other stuff.
>>69231854
Tbh I just stream them. Even stuff like In The Silver Globe can be found
>>69232018
Wow, you should be ashamed of yourself.
>>69232014
damn that's too bad
to all the stillman bros itt, anyone read the last days novelization? anyone still sad about the cosmopolitans?
>>69232048
Why? If I like it then I buy it on Blu ray. I'm probably just retarded but pirating seems like more work than its worth
>>69230861
same, i like you
>>69232087
>anyone read the last days novelization
Didnt even know such a thing existed...
>>69232087
>anyone still sad about the cosmopolitans?
Yeah, I might be wrong but I feel like the door could still possibly be open? Didnt they order scripts or something? Maybe L&F's success could fastback it. Because it did have a lot of potential.
>>69232026
listen to me
>>69232131
>I'm probably just retarded but pirating seems like more work than its worth
what work is there? certainly not enough work to justify watching shitty 320p streams on putlocker or whatever the fuck
>>69231928
stray dog and red beard
i don't like him much tho
Tarkovskyfags gonna make real hard for me to come to this threads.
God I hate his films. And no, it's not because they're slow o try to be transcendental.
>>69231928
his two 80's ones - Kagemusha and Ran - are in my top 3 for him. the other is Ikiru.
I haven't seen all of them - I've seen Dreams, Dodes'ka-Den, Red Beard, High and Low, Sanjuro, Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Seven Samurai, Rashomon, and The Men Who Tread on the Tiger's Tail. Other than the bookends of this second list, I'd recommend every single one I've mentioned
>>69232236
Like having to seed in order to download, work to get invites, maybe I have it wrong and it really is that easy, I don't know. But if it's a really shit stream then I'll avoid it. I figure I'll end up downloading someday so I'd rather hold off on a film then watch it as less than its intended. That being said, I'm ok with settling for 720p for now
>>69232087
I watched the Cosmopolitans while living in Paris. Seeing as I'm from Manhattan and my name ends with -man it was almost freaky.
I didn't like it too much. Nothing wrong with cleaving to what he knows but it wasn't nearly as captivating as his other films. Then again, it wasn't a film.
It did touch briefly on soemhing i think a lot about, which is why Americans become expats. My conclusion is that it's mostly for bad reasons, putting work transfers onto one side. You read about these American girls killed by niggers in Italy and Vienna and they were just spoiled upper class kids who, contrary to Stillman's charavters, turned their back on any kind of tradition and only moved to Europe as the premier place to host their anarchic bohemian lifestyles. People who despise American culture as puritanical and long to move to a more progressive land where no one will judge their licentiousness.
It's sad but I mostly avoid other American expats
>>69231928
High and Low is his best.
But anything, really.
>>69232320
>i dont want to "work" to watch movies
>i will spend money to watch movies though
facebook cinephiles everybody
>>69231854
rutracker
surrealmoviez
avistaz.to for asian films
there's a lot of stuff in public trackers too, from certain users.
>>69230211
I agree. Tarkovsky doesn't even understand his own work, because there's nothing to understand.
>>69231897
>rutracker
Thanks, I forgot about this
Haven't had to use it until now, guess it shows what a pleb I am
>>69232187
about the novel, yeah apparently it's written from the perspective of jimmy after the movie comes out in the universe of the film, supposed to be pretty good. must read the love & friendship novelization as well
that's (potentially) good news regarding the cosmopolitans. i legit still think about it like once a month
>>69232336
interesting. i wonder if there's any real chance that it'd be picked up and/or developed further, i agree it was a really cool idea. sucks about expats tho
>>69231700
Done and done. I was waffling between Big Lebowski and O Brother for a bit but honestly only chose the latter for personal reasons. The Big Lebowski is undeniably the more iconic flim.
that pastebin link and especially most of those choices for those directors are fucking shameful, you guys are literally fucking retarded.
i was going to list the corrections but since im on a phone it would take 10 minutes to do all of them and theres no point if thats the consensus and this is the crowd im dealing with.
that kid who keeps posting his "essential" poster with inferior alternates from not quite mid-level directors needs to be fucking shot too. this is why we can't have /film/ (or any nice things).
unreal
>>69232466
Calm down, this is just getting started.
Can anyone spare a private tracker invite to celebrate the dawn of /film/?
>>69232466
Poo on you
>>69232431
I am ordering both of these novels, sounds great
>>69232389
If I have money to spend
But have to work to make time to watch a movie, much less work/wait for it
Why would I do differently?
>>69232510
Sure, buddy. Always glad to help new friends. Be sure to be a great user.
Sent :)
>>69232466
You're way everyone hates mobileposters. I do it but I put in the effort to keep up.
Also, fuck you. The range of directors and the selections for each are better than anything /tv/ has put out in the last year
>>69231784
Dunno, perhaps I am still too much of a pleb to fully appreciate Mirror. The cinematography is stunning, perhaps it's even his most beautiful film, but I still don't fully understand what I should have extracted from it. Sorry for making common sense normie questions, but why is the storytelling all over the place? What is the larger theme behind the film, on human nature or else, if there is any? Or is it just a really confusing autobiographical rambling? The actual narrative, whatever it is, just feels like a strange mix of different themes all thrown together in a blender, and I don't really know how to feel about it.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks Solaris is amongst his worst though, it really bothers me that it's likely his most famous work and yet possibly his most shallow.
>>69232592
No, it isn't, really
>>69232568
Seriously though, how does one go about getting into a private tracker?
So anons, Cannes is coming, what are the films you want to see the most?
https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-cannes-2016-lineup
Elle would be my choice, the new Farhadi a close second.
>>69232446
since this is still a work in progress, my advice:
>Dreyer
switch Ordet with Day of Wrath
>Bunuel
Viridiana is by far the strongest I've seen of him - I'd even replace the overvenerated Discreet Charm with it
>Bergman
consider Scenes from a Marriage and particularly Fanny & Alexander
>Fellini
Nights of Cabiria is by far the strongest of his work I've seen - I had a stronger response to it than La Strada, La Dolce Vita and 8 1/2 combined
>Kubrick
Paths of Glory is essential
>>69232609
you need an intimate knowledge of the golden age of russian poetry (which most of /film/ don't have) or you will not be able to understand most of it
everyone who claims to understand this is either a very educated russian, some kind scholar, or some pretentious faggot
still, the film is highly enjoyable and stunning even without full comprehension, like all of tarkovsky's films
gonna watch tarkovsky for the first time, starting with stalker
what to expect? tips on making the experience more enjoyable?
![the-witch-poster1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wgT0byB.jpg "the-witch-poster1[1].jpg")
Explain to me why pic related is an acclaimed movie. I just finished watching it and didn't think it was very good.
what should I watch tomorrow?
>>69232732
Bring a pillow
>>69232765
Yi Yi
>>69232732
A very slow, metaphysical/religious movie
>>69232806
>Yi Yi
Excellent choice my man. The absolute GOAT
>>69232732
don't watch it on a tiny ass screen
if you're not actually going to a theater to actually see it try to replicate the experience as much as possible, turn off the lights, proper sound, etc.
this actually applies to all film watching
>>69232744
Tense, measured, authentic period design, hauntingly effective score, nightmarish imagery, delightful payoff at the end. It's very good.
>>69232592
yea, you've been here like 2 months. fuck off. learn to use that phone too.
>>69232502
im not sure if i should wait, contribute, or if you guys should just abort now. there are some worthwhile posts in this thread.
>>69231551
>>69231784 (close)
>>69232731
>>69232313 (very close but kagemusha is actually secretly one of his worst movies; ran, ikiru, and dersu uzala are the way to go)
Screenshot your watchlist family
>>69232744
Same reason Goodnight,Mommy is revered. Both technically sound, well-made films and have classic psychological horror atmostphere. They aren't very scary or even intense for that matter but critics these days dig any kind of throwbacks so.
Is /film/ Christian?
I'd like to think it is.
>>69230133
This is online since yesterday. Any thoughts?
Is it better than Tabu?
>>69232732
What >>69232806 said. Also, if you get as invested in it as I personally did, it's one hell of a trip about the rationality (or irrationality, depending on your interpretation) of belief.I was genuinely in tears when the three of them were sitting outside the room while rain was pouring in, jesus fucking christ, the last 10 minutes really make you feel fucking miserable.
>>69232732
if there was a film to wait for a rainy day to watch it, or nighttime at minimum, I think that's one of them.
>>69232765
Grand Illusion, Bicycle Thieves, Late Spring, Diary of a Country Priest, Nights of Cabiria, Secret of the Beehive, Fanny & Alexander
one of those
>>69232855
The screens can't take always the blame. Immersion can be built by anything; it's very much the viewer's efforts. Upon my own peculiar circumstances, I watch anything on a desktop, and the experiences are quite satisfactory. The viewer is always more important than the screen, which should be obvious.
>>69232900
With all the raging Tarkovskifags here, I would say so.
>>69232876
I'd love to hear your ideas on how Kagemusha - which I didn't have to struggle at all to discover enormously meaningful personal interpretations within - was in any way flawed. "Spoiler" away
>>69232919
It's been online for more than a month, actually. And yet I haven't watched.
Btw, if it's better than Tabu, then it's a masterpiece.
>>69233037
Decent size blurayrips I mean.
>>69232962
you can immerse yourself in the narrative, sure, but with a bigger image you can appreciate the visual details better
I agree with you that just because someone watches a film on a 100'' screen doesn't necessarily mean his experience was better than other guy watching on a laptop, because the first guy can be a dumbass or just not be in the mood, but for one single person watching on a bigger screen is always better
>>69232899
>>69232919
>3 movies
'no'
>>69233023
you literally just spoiled it for me.
its his most overstylized and possibly underwritten (but overdrawn) movie and its not nearly as multidimensional as his other works. id go so far as to say it was a dress rehearsal for ran (which is slightly overdone too).
>>69232568
Im gonna have to pay for movies?
>>69232899
You should watch Tetsuo. Tsukamoto is one of the great japanese directors today.
Alphaville is good too.
>>69232900
>muh big, white, flying man in the sky
nah, atheist here
>>69233164
You want to see a film, fucker?
I'll give you the link right here, right now.
One film.
>>69232900
As an atheist, I hope that it's at least Christian-inclusive
>>69232919
>be Pretoguese
>see Pretoguese movie on a /film/ thread
>mfw people actually know about our schlock cinema
How embarrassing.
>>69232900
I'm a not very convict deist leaning to agnosticism, but Christbros are totally cool in my book.
>>69232510
>>69232658
Join [random] trackers that have open signups. Work your way up, then ask members for invites to trackers you want in invite threads or directly.
You could also join specific invite sharing sites, they give free invites occasionally.
>>69233129
I can see where you're coming from on being underwritten, but never could I agree that it's overdrawn (unless you mean drawn-out, where I'd disagree, but also see where you're coming from)
compare it to Yojimbo, Sanjuro, High and Low - all these feel like steps down, less serious somehow compared to Kagemusha. and compare Red Beard - also 3 hours long, but less plot-centric (we care about the patients, but it's more a panorama than a single journey); Kagemusha is more focused, though not as strong as Ran, I agree.
which of the movies I listed would you place above it?
>>69233241
well yeah
>>69233334
that's too much work.
>>69233318
You shouldn't be embarrassed, anon. Pedro Costa is one great filmmakers working today. There's also Gomes ,and fucking methuselah that died last year.
My country, on the other hand, only has a film a about some kidfuckers living in a beach house.
>>69233405
Then don't expect to get obscure movies anywhere.
this general has really saved this board for me. i thought i'd stop coming here because the /pol/ aura.
>>69233455
shut up nigger jew cuckold
>>69232533
jesus christ do you speak english
>>69233318
You're also, like many, a vira-lata. You should be ashamed.
reminder
Sure is samefag in here.
>>69233580
You got me, anon. This thread is entirely my work, it's just me arguing with myself about erudite cinema ;/
>>69233532
why on earth would you recommend people watch Level Five when that's not even in Chris Marker's top 5? La Jetee, Le Joli Mai, A Grin Without a Cat, Sans Soleil - even The Last Bolshevik does a better job at giving a genuine sense of history (and Sans Soleil a better view of Japan)
I thought Love Streams was not near as good as A Woman Under the Influence (that's common knowledge anyway)
Medvedkin's Happiness is great though
>>69233532
Without the imbecilic header and subtitle, as just a chart, it's a nice, random-looking thing for being worked out.
But you people have to be niggers, so "le essentials", "no, these are the essentials", fuck yall that's all shit". And that's how nice things don't come to be.
>>69233342
high and low knows exactly what it is and doesnt have delusions of grandeur. one of his best works and airtight. yojimbo and sanjuro are slightly overrated but still very good. admittedly, i have to rewatch red beard, couldn't get into it on round 1.
my personal top 10 preference (not being "objective") would be
ran (flawed but my fav)
ikiru (perfect)
dersu uzala (overlooked because of the time of his career)
rashomon (clever and innovative)
high and low
throne of blood (probably even with ran quality wise, he killed the shakespeare angles and unified em elegantly with eastern influences)
seven samurai (overrated but great)
no regrets for our youth (CRIMINALLY overlooked)
dreams (essential "you just dont fucking get it, do you?"-core; so is dodesukaden)
yojimbo
for the purposes of the top 3 list it should be rashomon, ran, and the third one is worth fighting over but i think ikiru is his best work and i know a few people on this board agree with me.
>>69232510
1. take the what.cd interview
2. after two months on WCD you'll be able to join PTP
3. done. PTP will have everything you need.
>>69233734
His early works especially drunken angels shouldn't be dismissed.
>>69233664
Not him but Level Five is a beautiful film and Marker is not always about a "sense of history"
>>69233792
That's so gay
>>69233792
>taking interviews to get into muh secret piracy club
what.cd is a faggot camp for loser morons
>>69233876
This should be a banner for private trackers in general
>>69233792
>after two months on WCD you'll be able to join PTP
no he won't
>>69233876
What's wrong with taking a interview?
>>69233901
did they take down the invites section PTP thread? or was i imaging that they ever put it up anywhere other than elite:?
>>69233734
I'm sure I've been missing out by not having seen Dersu Uzala, so obviously that's next for me
I'd agree that Ikiru and High and Low are both perfect movies - but both of us know that perfect execution isn't all there is, otherwise High & Low would be in your top 3 also, right? it's those other factors that make me see his early-60's movies as somewhat more modest goals for a director of his vision and invention.
for creating a top 3, everybody who hangs around long enough will have to see Seven Samurai sooner or later, so why not include something like Rashomon, Ikiru, and Ran? that prevents people from imagining him as a "50's director" for one thing
>>69232297
Well, why do you dislike our senpai Tarkovsky-kun so much, anon?~
>>69230133
>Andrei Tarkovsky
>no mention of solaris which was considered his best work by himself and by others
Fix that pastebin.jesus christ
All right guys, I'm heading to bed. Really jazzed about the responses so far. The quality post to shit post ratio is unreal. If somebody could continue once this thread hits 300 replies that would be very much appreciated.
>>69233950
i cant disagree with anything you said bro.
obviously theres more; its called taste. we can recognize "objective" attributes that are good/bad/whatever (or sometimes obv dependant on context or open to interpretation and of intent; this is basic). but we all have our quirks and preferences we gravitate towards; you should be able to tell just based on that one list that one of mine is existential in nature.
if we just sit here trying to be as "objective" (or worse, safe) as possible you end up with shitty lists like that pastebin.
most of those examples arent even fucking useful at all for the people it would be targetted towards, and they show literally NO personality. AT ALL. that's the problem. then we have the other extreme, which is people just being alternative for the sake of doing so like this fucking clown >>69233532
balance is key in many areas lads, and this type of endeavor is definitely one of them.
>>69233813
I love Marker's work, but as much as I enjoyed Level Five, it's never going to be the first film of his I'd recommend other people see. so more than disagreeing with him, I just can't imagine why that one in particular stands out for him compared to the others I've mentioned.
>>69234051
im pretty sure tark thought solaris was his worst.
i thought it was better than stalker though desu.
Also, I'll do something about the Kurosawa picks tomorrow.
>>69234051
>no mention of a hippie attempt at countering Kubrick by going full "positivism is bad cause like mankind's only gonna try to find itself in space" levels of stupidity
I wonder why.
>>69234197
>im pretty sure tark thought solaris was his worst.
Watch interviews with the crew.
It is basically his best work and they all agree starting from sound,visuals,not to mention the story is basically his life at that point in time.
Why won't letterbox plebs stay in their letterbox thread?
>>69234372
stfu embryo
>>69234306
Solaris was approved for production and well into workings before even Tarkovsky watched 2001 which happened by invitation of the american ambassador for a special screening.
Tarkovsky liked the visuals and hated the whole mankind evolution but that doesn't matter because he though differently of space which is why we get Solaris.
Of and the movie is not so impressive with visual effects because simply they didnt have the technology to do such things in USSR buth they worked with the space agency and got cool props for the set.
Is classic hollywood allowed here? You guys only seem to talk about the usual foreigners.
Anyway, just rewatched this. Boetticher's the fuckin man as always.
>>69234168
agreed. one of the problems is seeing other lists getting made, disagreeing with the selections, but not wanting to make one yourself.
maybe we should just have as many lists as people who care to make them, instead of insisting on group participation to create a quasi-definitive document?
some choices are bound to upset somebody. I don't mind, 'cause all lists are incomplete, provisional documents anyway.
>>69234550
love budd! that one is probably my favorite, except maybe 7 men from now. also, i have yet to see the rise and fall of legs diamond. what about you anon?
>>69234610
Ride Lonesome is probably my favorite. That ending, with the burning tree. Brutal.
Haven't watched Legs Diamond either, tho.
>>69234813
yea, ride lonesome is amazing. man, there's something about comanche station that is so great, maybe it's oddly (semi-)hopeful tone/ending (at least, this is how i remember comanche station...)? something like that. definitely feels like a late master type film.
man now i gotta rewatch ride lonesome
>>69234883
Yeah it's a beautiful ending. And Boetticcher certainly knew his craft. It's amazing how so many so called "B Westerns" were so fucking good.: Boetticher, Daves, Fuller, De Toth. Pure Gold.
>>69235222
damn right. like renoir said, the western is always the same, so it allows the director to innovate (or something like that).
>>69230133
There is so much wrong in that pastebin link that it actually made me mad.
>>69234600
better question, why are redditors, and pseudo-intellectual faggots so obsessed with making lists in the first place?
>>69235332
>pseudo-intellectual faggots so obsessed with making lists in the first place?
this.
I will also add top 10 or top 5 lists.
Almost always are garbage and not worth the time even going through them.
>>69231301
Pretty much.
Goes to show the retards like OP aren't really interested in discussing films but merely giving off the impression that they do so in order to stroke their own ego.
what are some good movies about hippies
>>69232899
>tfw only have shitty HDD
>>69235332
I don't know. it's a weird compulsion that even I share, but at least I don't foist it on others. but if I had to guess why, it'd be that selecting a fairly definitive collection of what you at that moment consider the summit of this medium, it can help you figure out what periods/countries//styles matter the most to you, info you can then use to pursue those areas more in-depth.
>>69235542
Monterey Pop by D. A. Pennebaker. also God Respects Us When We Work, But Loves Us When We Dance by Les Blank.
>>69235542
Easy Rider
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