So what are your expectations for Alien:Covenant (Prometheus 2)? Do you think it´ll return the franchise to old form?
Plot is basically
>colony ship finds LV-426
>David the synthetic is the only "survivor" there
>crew expects it to be a habitable planet
>shit hits the fan
>>69208207
wait isnt shaw in the next one?
>>69208207
I'm expecting and hoping that David is going to be serving as something of a protector of the eggs on the planet, and smuggle them onboard the ship.
This'll only be revealed towards the end of the movie, that he was responsible for the xenomorphs getting onboard in the first place. He'll reveal it to like the last chick survivor or something.
>>69208252
>I want to be able to predict everything that will happen
stop
>>69208293
>I want to be able to predict everything that will happen
I never wanted this power.
>>69208207
>>David the synthetic is the only "survivor" there
How? I know he and Dr. Shaw left the planet but the only way they could be on LV426 is if they were the crashed ship from the first Alien film, but in Alien there was an Engineer in the navigation chair.
Also, where did the alien eggs all come from?
>>69208240
Noomi Rapace won´t be in Prometheus 2 so unless they changed the actress for Shaw she won´t be in it. They´ll probably find her corpse though.
Oh and guess which company sent the colony ship in that direction.
>>69208351
Actually i fucked up with the OP, i don´t know if it´ll be on LV-223 or LV-426.
>>69208358
why isnt Noomi in it? i don't think she's so busy she would have to turn down a big budget, high profile project like this
>>69208687
probably trying to ditch it and save her career from another embarrassment
>>69208821
it's the only high profile american movie she's been in, and the sequel is her only realistic chance at being in another one before she's too old
>>69208687
Apparently Scott wanted an all-new cast. He wanted her to have a small role at first but then cut her completely. Only David´s severed head will be in Covenant and maybe Shaw´s corpse.
>>69208207
they've turned the mysterious space jockey into a buff dude. I don't even want to know what great origin story they're going to come up with for the xeno.
>>69209032
Well they obviously can´t keep up with Giger´s design. Still that milky-white Bodybuilder was terribly unimaginative.
>>69209032
voldermort made some fat gains
>>69208240
she's been replaced by a new lead character played by Katherine Waterston
>>69209265
Jeez that´s revealing as hell.
>>69209233
Is Voldemort natty?
>>69209265
That's a brave suit, so brave. Also, I expected them to reach the engineers' home planet, full of Eldritch stuff and Lovecraftian impossible shit and fucked up physics, now turns out it's some shitty slasher flick with the big bad being a fucking severed head. Gonna be campy as fuck, Ridley has gone completely senile
>Ridley "I stole the baby Metroid" Scott announces new movie to be loosely tied with Alien
>WHOOO! We're getting a prequel from the master himself!
>N-no, it just takes place in the same univ-
>I can't wait to see the Alien again!
>Well actually, it has nothing to do with-
>Hey guys, did you hear Ridley's making an ALIEN PREQUEL?
I feel bad for Scott, I really do. Movie was kinda disappointed but I still enjoyed it and I was really excited about the idea. We'll see how this one goes.
>>69209032
Pretty sure they always had it in mind that they were humanoid underneath all that.
>>69209265
>How do you like your neckline?
>Just fuck my shit up, family
sex
>>69210763
>Pretty sure they always had it in mind that they were humanoid underneath all that.
pretty sure the space jockey was just some weird creature giger came up with while being high on opium. it wasn't a dude in a suit.
>>69208207
It's going to be easy on the eyes and shit on the plot, just like prometheus was.
>>69211115
I hope there's nudity
The space jockey in the original Alien is actually Shaw inside an engineer suit
>>69210994
Yeah IIRC from the comic series they were very much like pachyderms under the armor
>>69211316
Good nips desu senpaitachi.
Has Ridley Scott lost his way?
>>69213532
he's a very uneven director, just look at his mediocre 90's films
The movie was supposed to be a pre-quel to Alien. And then a few months before it came out they said Ridley claimed it was a spin-off.
Then when the movie came out it was absolute garbage. Then I discovered the writer was a "Jew", so all the anti-white shit in the movie made sense.
Then, all the try-hards on Youtube doing "Prometheus movie explained" videos, trying to explain away the shit writing, the huge plot holes and basic retardation on the movie turned me off even more.
They've already admitted that they put ancient alien garbage in the movie, and tried to imply that Lord Jesus Christ was an alien.
So now they're trying to milk this 'franchise' even more by making a second movie to try and fill the plot holes and other stupid shit from the first one.
Why do you even care about these movies? They are terrible. Why couldn't they do a 10 minute google search about the space jockeys and come up with something more original and interesting than 'muh white aryan evil engineers in elephant space suits'?
Boring, 0/10.
>>69213844
>pre-quel
What did he mean by this?
>>69213942
Nice find. Find the other.
>>69208687
the rumor is that Fassbender tried to grope and hit on her a lot on the Prometheus set so she doesn't want to work with him again
>>69209032
>the mysterious space jockey
still better than this
>>69214082
did he do the same to Katherine on the set of Steve Jobs?
Prometheus was a great flick, say what you want about the writing but visually it was nothing less than a masterpiece, there was great ideas in this film and the music was pretty good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzI3AdpA9e4&index=4&list=PL7F73D4D03FDCD645
I am excited to see it, really.
>its another a bunch of dudes get rekt by a xenomorph again
Boring
Why did they change the name from Paradise to Alien:Covenant? Is Alien 5 still being made?
>>69214355
after Chappie I hope blowcamp is never allowed out of africa again
>>69214082
>implying any woman would turn down fassy
>>69209032
>>69209265
I can see where Ridley was going with them, they are meant to be angels, literally Godlike and damn, when it got angry for being woken up it was pretty scary desu.
>>69214355
Alien 5 is shelved until 2017, next in the production order, basically waiting for Alien: Covenant to be completed.
Sigourney will probably be in it, Newt will be in it and apparently according to Wikipedia, Bill Paxton might be reprising his role as Hudson.
>>69209265
lol what in the fuck is she wearing
>>69211115
Prometheus had decent plot, i prefer it to the previous aliens.
What i didn't like was the choice of having some people in the top elite scientists and shit be complete morons..
With this said, comfy movies about space etc? Having some kind of base and a group of people isolated from the rest of the universe is a plus.
it will be the attack of the clones to prometheus's phantom menace
>>69214494
The Martian would fit, but I didn't like it much.
>>69214494
>What i didn't like was the choice of having some people in the top elite scientists and shit be complete morons..
To a certain extent I agree but after some revision and watching the film a few times I have this headcanon that these scientists aren't the best in the world at what they do, but the best they could get who were willing to do this mercenary work for some rich white dude and disappear half way across the Universe for dollar.
Noomi had her reasons for going of course so she was the only competent one really.
>>69214592
dude self-abortion lmao
Why is David even evil in the first place
>>69208207
Outside of Alien: Isolation the entire franchise has been dead to me since 1986. It's been one shitty movie after another, each worse than the last. I am a MASSIVE fan of the first 2 movies, and am so disappointed in what Fox has done with it for 30 years that I have 0 expectations that, Ridley or not, it'll be anything other than a dumpster fire.
>>69214653
Because the movie needed an antagonist before they woke the engineer up.
Is Alien 3 Assembly Cut worth checking out?
>>69214494
>Prometheus had decent plot
>i prefer it to the previous aliens.
>Roger Ebert gave the film 4 out of 4 stars, labeling it a "seamless blend of story, special effects and pitch-perfect casting, filmed in sane, effective 3-D that doesn't distract." Ebert wrote that Rapace's performance "continues here the tradition of awesome feminine strength begun by Sigourney Weaver in Alien", but considered that Elba's Janek has the most interesting character evolution. Ebert thought that the plot raises questions and does not answer them, which made the film intriguing and parallel to the "classic tradition of golden age sci-fi".[219] He later went on to name it as one of the best films of 2012
Roger Ebert on Prometheus.
>>69208207
Couldn't be worse.
>>69214653
I had the idea that he was doing whatever it takes to get the answers.
>>69214101
no it fucking isnt
>>69214739
>previous aliens: group x of people find an alien, shit goes down
>prometheus: group of people goes at the borders of the universe to find the race wich made humans and aliens, you have characters that want to find them for the sake of knowing, others because they are about to die, when shit goes down it's a 3 party game, instead of 2
>>69208207
>colony ship finds LV-426
[Citation Needed]
>>69214826
Keep your Space Alf thanks.
>>69214101
Lel. I have that comic. The engineers float about and capture newborn aliens in glass jars. Pretty cool desu. Much better than muh big guy human creator
The only reason Prometheus was any good was because it didn't have the Memeomorphs except for the final scene.
>people complaining about Ridley Scott ruining Space Jockey
>Ridley Scott created the Space Jockey
>>69214511
Thos desu.
>>69215184
>people complaining about George Lucas ruining Star Wars
>George Lucas created the Star Wars
>>69211316
>>69209032
Would you guys be alright with the Engineers basing their suits and helmets off the original Space Jockey race of creatures? Maybe they'd be the Engineer's creators.
The Space Jockey in alien had teeth and tusks under that head afterall.
>>69214897
but alf is already from space
Can some give me a tldr of prometheus.
I haven't watched it.
Looks boring. But I want to know the important stuff
>>69215633
There is no important stuff.
>>69215633
>aliens create humanity
>humanity takes to the skies
>humanity meets alien creators
>alien creators dont like humans
>drama
>roll credits
>>69215633
we are the disappointing children of space aliens, and they wanted to wipe the slate clean by turning us into rad penismonsters
>>69209032
Literally the worst retcon since Zeist.
>>69210763
>Scott announces new movie to be loosely tied with Alien
Yeah, no. The project started out and was announced as a straight up Alien. It only became its own shitty spin-off thingie when they let Lindelof fuck around with the script and he made it "less Alien".
>Pretty sure they always had it in mind that they were humanoid underneath all that.
Jesus, fuck no. It wasn't even in the pre-Lindelof script.
>>69215999
>a straight up Alien
prequel, I mean. Alien prequel.
>>69208207
listen up its going to be utter shit because of Blomkamp, there is no hope
>>69215791
This.
>>69217294
>Alien Covenant. Directed and produced by Ridley Scott.
>Shit because of Blomkamp.
>>69215545
>Maybe they'd be the Engineer's creators.
So the whole franchise would turn into a circlejerk of creating? Maybe they could get Stephen King to direct the next one and have AC/DC's "Who Made Who" blast on the soundtrack from beginning to end.
>>69217540
Kek
>>69208207
I want Aliens to be scary again.
>>69217592
It'd be so easy, all they have to do is drop the retarded pig squeaks and elephant noises and make them sneaky and silent again.
>hear about Alien Isolation
>creepy survivor horror copying the original movie's atmosphere
>game of the year scariest shit you'll ever play m8 10/10
>holy shit maybe, just maybe someone got it right this time
>start watching gameplay
>HURR SQUEEE HISSSH RRRRR everytime the thing appears
meh.
>>69214653
>Why is David even evil in the first place
He's the whitest person they could find.
>>69215580
Alf is from Melmac
>>69218037
after all the albinos running around in the movie of course
>>69209265
This alone is enough for me not to want to see it when it comes out.
>>69214082
>turning down the Fassbender's baguette cock
Yeah, that didn't happen.
>>69209371
I really wanted Prometheus 2, not Alien 0.5.
Like I've seen Alien stories with Xenos and facehuggers and eggs.
Complain about Lindelof all you like but at least he tried to do something new
>>69211316
I'm 12 and who is this??
>>69214494
I forgot smart people never do dumb things. Especially not under high stress.
Prometheus was perfect
>>69218699
Fuck you. I'm never going to forgive Ridley Scuck for indirectly robbing Del Taco from adapting At The Mountains of Madness again.
>>69214746
I don't always agree with Ebert but he nails this
>>69218570
the female lead in Alien: Covenant
Wait, wait, are Covenant and Alien 5 two different movies? What the fuck
>>69214383
Not wanting based sharlto copley running sbout shouting about fookin prawns
>>69211361
Yooooooooooo
>>69217904
>>HURR SQUEEE HISSSH RRRRR everytime the thing appears
Not to mention stomping around the place, you could hear the beast a mile away with those heavy feet walking through the corridors
>>69208436
It'll be neither... It'll be the engineer home world... Paradise
>>69214653
>>69214693
>>69218037
Because he was following instuctions from old man Weyland. At one point in the film he's talking to Weyland in his dreams, Weyland was probably Lucid Dreaming and when Vickers asks what did he say, David responds with "Try harder."
It's after this that David drops the thing in the guys drink, so I got the impression he was simply taking orders from Weyland.
>>69219607
>>69208436
>>69208351
Exactly, it isn't LV-223 or LV-426, it's going to be a new one. The Engineer's home planet.
Please get your facts straight before posting.
>>69218892
Yep.
Two films.
>>69214653
he resented the humans, but especially his dad old man Weyland, for basically creating him and insisting he wasn't a real boy
old man weyland sees david like the engineers see humans, and david represents how cynical you'd be if you knew your god made you because it could, perhaps out of pure ego, and just saw you as a thing
What happens to this guy?
The little guy's gonna starve to death on LV-226 especially since Noomi Rapeface left a message warning people to stay away.
It's literally been born and stuck in the middle of some shitty planet.
>>69220174
>the only alien shitty enough to outjarjar the newborn
they better just pretend that scene never happened tbqh
>>69214494
>Smart people are incapable of irrational behavior.
When will this fucking meme die.
>>69220582
>people still making excuses for terrible screenwriting
When will this fucking meme die.
>>69221046
I didn't say the screenplay wasn't shitty. I said the gripe of how scientist didn't behave like scientist, is an oxymoronic phrase if there ever was one.
>>69221046
>>69221480
In each of the Nasa accidents, in each of them, men and women with decades of experience and PHD's behaved like fucking idiots and lives were lost. IN BOTH FUCKING INSTANCES. With several fucking scientist, PEOPLE WITH PHD's IN PHYSICS AND ENGINEERING HAD THE FUCKING GAUL TO SAY, 'so what if the craft was moving 400 miles an hour, there's no way foam at those speeds can do any real damage.'
>>69221563
I hope you're getting paid real money for this shilling. Otherwise it's just sad.
>>69221610
shill. you're a funny guy. You're like those people who bitches about the two women running in the shadow of the falling horse shoe when the score for that scene was dubbed. DEBRIS! As in hot molten death fuck magma metal was exploding on all sides except for the umbrella that was the falling death fuck ship from the sky.
But on and on your kind bitches about how dumb these two women were for running in the shadow of the falling ship. "Why not zig zag." Because we all know during the 911 attacks people FUCKING ZIG ZAG WHEN THE BUILDINGS FELL. Everyone, EVERYONE, EVERYONE, ran in the shadow of the falling buildings. Not a bitch or brother zig zagged. And that's because when the shit hits the fan, you run. You don't go, "My word, wouldn't it be more prudent to ran either to the left or right than in a straight line. If the building's toppling over, it'd fall onto us so I think it's best that we---" Of course not, you'd be too busy running for your life to think that far ahead.
>>69214457
Bill Paxton? how the fuck?
dude was grabbed by xenos and then they nuked him from orbit, it was the only way to be sure.
really you don't get deader than that
>>69214592
have you met many academics? outside of their specialty and education a lot of them lack even basic common sense. I've known people with PHDs who cant figure out their fucking washing machine.
>>69222368
Actually true. I've known PHD's who were absolute little bitches. It's amazing.
>>69222275
i think he means michael biehn
we cinematic universe nowcan't wait to include predatorkino here too
>>69208207
My brother in law is working on this in Sydney
Its going to be good
>>69224110
Can we all agree Alien 3 and 4 were mistakes that shouldn't have happened?
>>69217904
after about 4 encounters you can see right through the alien's patrol algorithm.
not to mention, it's hard to be terrified when i'm feeling nostalgic.
>>69224682
There was some promise in 3, and I mostly like it.It takes a downturn for me after Charles Dance dies. The dialogue suddenly becomes terrible.But Fincher got fucked over by studio meddling. I very much dislike Resurrection, though.
>>69224887
Yeah. We've become too familiar with the alien. It's not scary any more.
>>69225011
Yes. New creature time. Someone needs to start a "in this thread we design the next iconic hollywood sci-fi monster"
>>69208207
>So what are your expectations for Alien:Covenant (Prometheus 2)?
No expectations, just hope they've learned their lesson with Prometheus. As someone who has been a fan since they were literally in diapers I'm going to see this regardless of how it turns out.
The Swedish chick was hot
>>69220174
Do xenos even need to eat? The one in Alien got to full size before eating anything
Could an Engineer kill a Xenomorph?
>>69225530
In a fist fight? Perhaps if the blue man got a good grip on the alien. They're probably stronger than the xenomorphs, right?
>>69225530
yep, there's a comic where refugees from Hadley's Hope land on the planet from Prometheus and bring Aliens with them, and an Engineer stuck there with nothing better to do spends his time killing them and piling them up
>>69226151
he also has a cool ray gun
>>69214722
its better then aliens desu
>>69226151
Retarded
>>69208207
More impregnations, fast pregnancies and birthings from the female protagonist...
>>69226274
oh no doubt about it, Prometheus: Fire and Stone is the stupidest fucking Alien-related thing I have ever seen
>>69209032
This really pissed me off and raped my childhood.
>>69226274
>>69226314
Nah, it wasn't that bad at all. Parts of it were actually pretty damn good.
>>69226372
parts of it were okay. but a lot of it was really, gloriously stupid, especially the four-way free-for-all between Elder, the Predators, the Xenos, and the humansseeing what the black goo did to predators was cool though
>>69209032
Why could't they just leave the SJ alone for fucks sake.
It was better as a never seen before mysterious creature that you had no clue if it was even bipedal or even humanoid.
An ancient apace farring race holy fuck, but no lets ruin it all and make them some randum milky humans lel.
>>69224682
Alien 3 is fucking brilliant
Sup guise
Miss me?
>>69220174
That fucker is HUGE, the ones that come out of humans are the size of a chihuahua.
Does this mean this guy is gonna grow up to swallow entire humans?
>>69225011
that's why I liked the black oil in Prometheus, it felt like Scott wanted to go back to what Alien was about - a creature or organism that's unknown to us. the xenomorph itself isn't alien at this point. it's only capable of jumpscares.
>>69224919
Fuck is this gif?
>>69226151
Why would he touch them, would't they be like roaches for him?
gross
>>69218183
"Please leave." - Willie
Small nitpick about Prometheus:
What was up with those guns with weird blue flashes? Were those supposed to be energy weapons?
>>69208207
I really want another Xeno on Human scenario
I MUST KNOW IF ALIENS HAVE PENISES
>>69220174
>especially since Noomi Rapeface left a message warning people to stay away
Yes, because the WY people are the types to be careful like that.
ITT: newfags and retards that never paid attention to Alien
You will never see what happened to the Space Jockey because he died fucking ages ago. He was fossilised when they found him. Stop wanting everything to be fucking spoonfed to you and appreciate the mystery.
>>69227006
Sigourney Weaver always tried to push a scene with Ripley getting the alien d, but sadly never got it.
>>69226867
The effects in Alien 3 are just astonishingly terrible.
I can't find a gif of it, but there's also that scene wherethe deranged Golic goes to free the captured xenomorph, thinking it is a creature sent by god that will bring him salvation.
It's a great scene until it's ruined by the comical shot of the terrible cgi alien running out of the bunker afterwards. And that's Alien 3 for you.
>>69227492
Found it. Jesus christ, it's worse than I remembered.
https://youtu.be/oJE4xpIIDfk?t=1m10s
>>69226821
>what is The X-Files
>what is The Thing
there was literally nothing innovative, scary or interesting about the black oil
>>69214653
AIs are inherently cold and evil.
They will never know that instinctual respect for life, the kind of respect that is born out of millions of years of natural selection and coexistence within our ecosystem.
I mean, just listen to how Ash speaks about the xenomorph in Alien.
That and David's creator was a bit of a dick, so that can't have helped things either.
>>69227574
>cgi
>>69226522
spotted the pleb
>>69227653
Neither Bishop nor Call were evil.
Hell, even if you argue that Bishop was simply following his programming, Call was fully sentient and doing thing on her own accord.
>>69211316
s..s..source?
>>69214383
chappie waas such shit, i hope die antwoord never has a movie deal again. the movie wouldve been decent without their wigger shit.
>>69226208
>>69227492
What happened to them using a dog with a costume?
Why so much cgi when they have the dog?
>>69221962
>look up
>fuckhuge ship crashing down
>welp i dont want to get crushed let me run out of the impact zone
running in a straight line was stupid and contrived .
>>69227574
>you can see the green screen
>>69222709
its easy to realize why, just because these people have good college degrees doesnt necessarily mean they know how people work. its the whole street smarts vs book smarts argument. ive met many "intelligent" people who dont know how to wash dishes or clean clothes
>>69228243
>don't know how to wash dishes
What
>>69228196
how can a realistic reaction to fear be contrived
>>69228196
You would probably panic and just start running like then until the shock has passed and you your brain starts to compute
Just like he redhead did at the end.
I get the argument tho. Why put that in a movie when you know people will laugh at it?
>>69227198
I think that giving it a conventional penis kinda makes it less frightening, actually. The entire idea is that the alien is "alien."
The facehuggers are more terrifying than alien dick, in my opinion.
>>69227492
>>69227574
>>69227831
>>69228231
The sad thing is that the puppeteers worked their asses off only to have the compositing be rushed and shitty
>>69227574
You don't even need that shot of the alien running out. It killed him when the door was open, we know that it is free to roam the facility. now. You just need an alien hiss, a scream, and the screen needs to go to black, and then cut to Sigourney Weaver & co. How did that shot get greenlit?
>>69228470
Poor dog actor was put in a shitty tight suit for nothing
>>69228393
i can refute this just from experience. when i was 7 i was at a lake and cliff jumping. my cousin decided to roll a boulder down the path up to the lake. the boulder was about to kill me before i made the split second decision to not die and jump out of the way of the boulder.
>>69228327
there are a lot of people who throw dishes into a dishwasher without properly cleaning them first so there wont be shit on the plates when you put them in
>>69228685
Unless you're a female then its not 100% refuted.
Why ia your cousin such an asshole?
>>69226151
Where do predators play into all this?
>>69228737
Yeah lazy people, has nothing to do with book or street smarts.
>>69228685
i meant cliff instead of lake
>>69228768
my cousin doesnt understand the implications of throwing a boulder down a path, i remember screaming at her telling her she was a dumb bitch. i stayed on my boat for the rest of the day after it
>>69227859
go fuck yourself and take your shit taste with you
>>69224887
It's also hard when you are pissed off that it's an unstoppable unkillable death obstacle. It gets tedious knowing there's no threat, just circle around it or die.
>>69227871
Who the fuck's Call?
>>69228809
the Engineers are sort of a white whale for the Preds, it shows them coming across Engineer iconography (like the cave paintings from Prometheus) during hunts on a number of worlds. so they show up, decide to take out the mercs busy running away from the Xenos, and then have to deal with a pissed-off android named Elder who got injected with black goo and turned into a biomechanical ubermench with a cabal of Xenos. Only Elder, one merc and one Predator survive the experience. The Predator keeps the merc as a hunting buddy and decided to Get Himself An Engineer.
>>69229249
winona ryder's character in alien resurrection, an android designed by androids
>>69227198
This is an unforgivable crime
>>69209032
You never know. There could be larger engineers on their planet.
>>69217540
I would be ok with this
