>The new Star Trek will be about arcing storylines and space explosions instead of philosophy, sociology, and science-fiction
>people unironically watched star trek for philosophy, sociology, and science-fiction.
>>69102794
>arcing storylines and space explosions
So, it'll be like every Trek post TNG?
arching storylines are objectively better than stand-alone episodes.
>>69102794
Implying it ever was about that/
>>69102794
I know EXACTLY what the nature of my medical emergency is, if ya know what im sayin
>>69102794
It better be like Game of Thrones or Walking Dead desu.
>>69102837
DS9babby plz go
>>69102819
>people unironically watched star trek
>>69102819
This.
Star Trek has never been a show of true depth. TOS is the best series and it was a colourful and fun romp of an adventure show with strong socio-politcial allegory at times. The rest of the series had their moments, but they were also beige in practically every sense of the word and tried their best to be explody and serialised as well.
If anything, getting a show from Bryan Fuller in the era of Peak TV is more exciting than the prospect of it resembling TNG or something.
>>69102891
Go to bed grandpa. Serialised TV is the future, the only reason it didn't always exist was because there was a long time between the invention of TV and the invention of repeats or home media.
>>69102794
>tfw the new Star Trek will probably have the most hamfisted liberal commentary of any of the series despite past versions actually existing in times of rampant social inequality
I do not trust them not to go full tumblr with this
>>69102837
As usual, Deep Shit Niners think their space mall is Trek
>>69102960
>people watched star trek
>there will never be another comfy adventure of the week tv show
>there will never be another tv show without relationship drama
Feels bad, man.
>>69103575
>people star trek
>>69102794
Yeah anyone of them could take my beam up they ass
>>69103655
>star trek
>>69103671
>trek
>>69103073
It predates the adoption of home video in Japan. It's less of a technological issue and more of a cultural one.
>>69103165
>all the /pol/ "fans" will run away in tears, leaving us true fans to inherit the franchise
Good.
>>69102891
>>69103475
Is this what it looks like when the Voyager fandom is going through its death throes? Just aggressively lashing out in anger at every opportunity?
I don't think you can get any more BTFO than Bryan "Voyager was shit" Fuller being appointed head of the next series.And it's going to be good.
>>69106070
They love a show with bells, whistles, and paedophile that no one mentions is fucking a two year old.
>>69108672
>paedophile
Typical for a Bongistani to enjoy the dull nothingness of DS9
>>69108672
can anyone here say they wouldn't do the same if two year olds looked like that?
>>69108735
ebin
>>69109033
What if the two-year old looked a little something like..
>THIS
>>69109548
If she was 2 but looked 21 in 1995 then by 2016 she'd be 23 (19 years over their expected lifespan) and look over 400 hundred. So all things considered she wouldn't look that bad but...
>implying I wouldn't get myself a new ocampa qt every 3 years
>it's a Molly treates O'Brien like shit and to make things worse Keiko gets mad at him and wont explain why so he goes to Quarks to ponder the best way to put Keiko in a romantic mood episode
>>69110179
But the Elogium, anon..
Neelix was fucking her before she hit puberty.
That's paedophilia right?
>>69110795
>Elogium
That's more akin to ovulating which their species only does once than to puberty.
>>69110179
>she'd be 23 (19 years over their expected lifespan) and look over 400 hundred
>Star trek has died within your lifetime
Feels bad, man
>>69111295
>implying it's dead
They said the same shit during the end of Voyager and then Enterprise, and then JJ
>>69111529
Don't remind us of the ghastly noises a corpse makes as it expires.
>>69111529
JJ really did kill it though. he did the worst thing anyone can do to a sci-fi-franchise: he shifted it from sci-fi to action-fi-plus-lasers, thus alienating the fan core who was also interested in things like exploration, diplomacy etc
>>69110305
Should have ditched her for that qt Cardie or Kira
>>69111529
There is a difference between nothing new in a franchise coming out and said franchise being changed beyond its character.
>>69111735
Bloody Cardies.
No! I want mommy to read to me!
Did someone say JJ (No-good punk)?
MOOOOOOOGIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69103165
>he's a conservative star trek fan
Wouldn't you be more comfortable watching Stargate or something?
>>69111906
>>69112056
>some people sitting in a room with plenty of time to think this over decided this should happen
Im not a Star Trek fan but I certainly relate
>All the Fantastic Four movies have been superhero trash instead of philosophy, sociology, and superhero trash
>>69112284
This meme that Trek is liberal needs to die.
>but it's socialist!
A post-scarcity society can't be socialist
>but tolerance!
Species get profiles and hat'd all the time
>but peace!
One of the first episodes of TOS was Kirk hunting down a Romulan ship for revenge. DS9 revolved heavily around war
>federation morality!
Gets subverted as much as it gets upheld. It's a faaaake!
>lgbt!
Writers stayed away from it like the plague, only in the evil universe were main cast allowed to not be straight
>>69111814
We all know O'Brian has only one true love.
>"Miles, I found your holosuite program, Dr. Fuckboi #2"
>>69112468
could you not
Le independent colored kapitan who need no Picard to run his space shopping mall episode but spend most of his time in the USS Memefiant instead because even the producers got bored pretty quickly with the Mall of Federacion episode.
I like TNG beat, I love the techno mumble jumble, the exploration and characters. Very comfy.
>>69112581
Not what? Anon falsely implied Star Trek was too liberal and that a conservative shouldn't enjoy it, which is absurd and reductivist
>>69112284
>Wouldn't you be more comfortable watching Stargate or something?
>>69102794
That dumb redskirt bitch at the back isn't even looking at where she's mindlessly waving her phaser
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69112712
DS9fags on suicide watch
CS:GO utterly blown the fuck out
>>69113026
trying to argue that Star Trek isn't liberal is just retarded anon, just accept that gene roddenberry's vision of the future was left as fuck
>>69113103
>0 replies and on page 5
>Page 5
>Not using the catalog
wtf man
>>69111910
This is like a parody of Star Trek fans and not of JJ Abrams.
>>69113108
Again, this is both reductivist and indefensible. Did we watch the same show? The one where two episodes in Kirk and Spock plot to kill a friend because he got god powers? A few episodes later Rand gets sexually assaulted by evil-Kirk and Spock laughs at it? Where Kirk is willing to violate an interplanetary treaty to get revenge on the Romulans for killing civilians?
Sisko holding entire planets hostage to satisfy a vendetta, murdering an ambassador, repeatedly violating the sovereign territory of the Dominion? Or how about that part where the 'evil' Section 31 was responsible for saving the Alpha Quadrant by pitting the deadly disease as a bargaining chip? Janeway throwing her pilot in prison for trying to save a species from genocide? Giving federation technology to a race of brutal hunters? Violating the temporal prime directive and committing multiple acts of treason to get her ship home successfully? What about when she tried torturing a Federation citizen and was only stopped by Chakotay? Or hey, what about that time Archer premeditatedly attacked a civilian science vessel, stole its essential components, and left it virtually helpless, in the greater interest of protecting his race?
The most 'liberal' series was TNG which Roddenberry didn't have any say in for five of its seasons, and even then you got the usual rounds of 'the prime directive is self-evidently stupid and harmful' and 'this race is inherently evil and devious; this race is inherently greedy'?
Star Trek is not any singular political identity, because reality doesn't fit into a singular political identity. It's about people with western Enlightenment values dealing with situations where those values are untenable.
>>69113221
You realize the catalog and the thread itself display the page....
>>69113103
>voyager shitposters don't use the catalog
>>69113286
Well don, you got the joke
>>69113427
Stop.
>>69113427
can someone sum up this post with one word?
>>69113691
Can it be two? If so
>cognitive dissonance
>The new Star Trek will be either a) a Walking Dead clone but with some race of super aliens instead of zombies or b) a Game of Thrones clone but with aliens instead of mythical creatures
>>69113427
>It's about people with western Enlightenment values dealing with situations where those values are untenable.
dude what
pretty much everything in the show is resolved with western enlightenment values
when did the Enterprise triumph by submitting to the will of a divinely appointed king
>>69102794
>sociology
Did you mean anthropology?
Sociology is more like "let's use math to figure out inequality issues in our own society" and anthropology is more the Star Trek "respect other cultures' point of view."
>>69113748
>a game of thrones clone but with aliens
DABIIIID
>>69113810
well they did have chancellor troy...
>>69110179
>>69110795
>>69111101
>only lives two years
>ovulates fucking once
>a mammal
why is trek so retarded when it comes to biology.
>>69113832
That summarizes neither of those sciences at all.
>>69113873
Basically, if they don't have at least three kids per person, they will go extinct. In "The Year of Hell" Kes had one child with Tom from her "mitral sac".
Thanks writers!
>>69113891
How do you summarize fields as broad as either of those while keeping it in a short post? Each has a history spanning over a century that all leads to what they are today. Sorry for making it simple, but this is /tv/ where mentioning either means you're a SJW, liberal crybaby whose opinions are automatically invalid. My point isn't that my statements are the end all, be all explanations, it's that Star Trek is far more concerned with anthropology than sociology.
What's with the internet and always nitpicking how you presented something instead of just worrying about the overall point?
>>69113873
>a mammal
Aliens can't be mammals. "Mammal" isn't just a list of features, it's a statement of heredity. The 20th century happened anon, you can't keep using 19th century classifications for life. They're phenotype based and outmoded by genetic analysis.
>>69114173
No, I'm just pointing out that, you may be write that the anthropological "human study" is more of an issue than sociology (which you summarizes as using math to solve disparity). Sociology studies much more than that, and anthropology isn't necessarily about the respect of other cultures.
I understand your point, at least in terms of Star Trek.
>>69102794
>arcing storylines
NOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCKING NORMIE SHIT FUCK
>>69102837
Shut up you fucking pathetic redditor scum, I literally hate you from the bottom of my heart, it's fucking losers like you that think tv is meant to be deep that fucking ruined it. Read fucking twilight or whatever lets you feel intellectual.
>>69114273
>I understand your point, at least in terms of Star Trek.
In the context of Star Trek I'm right. I shouldn't have to restate the context since we're in a Star Trek thread. You're nitpicking, and it has nothing to do with my argument. So why are you nitpicking? You haven't even provided substitute summaries of your own, so it's just shitpicking without adding anything substantive to the thread.
I'm gonna guess you're either a butthurt sociology student, an anthropology student, or an autist. Well everyone is an autist for talking about Star Trek on /tv/, so which subject do you study?
>>69113921
The Ocampa were genetically modified to be pleasure slaves.
>"Adult" maturation in a matter of months
>Quickly adapt to most situations
>Imprints on the first male (of any species) that shows interest.
>>69114538
Just calm your tits, I took one sociology class in high scool, that's the extent of my knowledge and I know it's not about logistics, that's for sure. It's the study of a societies through range of positivism or the antithesis, culture, language, hierarchy, economy, etc.
I know less about anthropology but now it's not something that says "we must respect all life" or whatever you were getting at..
Getting back to Star Trek...
>>69114447
Yeah, you tell him!
>>69114549
>just finished Voyager
>mfw he stopped wearing contacts the last few episodes
His character became so much better. Looked kawaii without them.
>>69113810
>pretty much everything in the show is resolved with western enlightenment values
Except for pretty much every episode that involves a 'moral choice' rather than comedy/action
Something as shitty as Threshold involves questions about right to life and the nature of personal identity (in that particular instance, it's just build on full-retard-tier science)
>Have a great job as a botanist on the Federation flagship.
>Fall in love with this Irish motherfucker (somehow) and marry him.
>He stops having whiskey dick for an evening long enough to get you pregnant
>The ship gets fucked up, and some goddamn savage fucking alien has to reach down there to deliver your child.
>Things are great for you again. Your baby will have a host of great friends once she gets old enough, and it's a diverse enough environment that she may even have great opportunities once she grows up.
>That Irish motherfucker stumbles in one night
>"HEYO ME WOIFE, OI GOT ME A POSTIN' AT THE ASS END O' THE QUADRANT, AN' YOU AN' MOLLY IS A-COMIN' WIT' ME, HOY TEE TEE TOY TOY!"
>Decide to go with your husband, for the good of the family. Maybe it won't be so bad.
>It's a ransacked alien space station with no amenities.
>The only place to eat is run by a creepy Ferengi who would just as soon make you his Oomox slave
>Your new home becomes a high-value target after Commander Scenery Chewer finds a wormhole
>There are no children Molly's age on the station. In fact, there are almost no children on the station at all.
>No botany lab
>No hydroponics or airponics bay
>Not even a science lab where you could work
>Can't continue work
>Be miserable and a little bored
>Know this posting is really important to your husband, and keeping the family together will be better for Molly
>Fight a little with your husband because you want to have a fulfilling life on this station too
>>69115152
>contacts
Christ, don't remind me of Weyoun's wardrobe malfunctions
Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.
>>69115152
I'm on my second go around right now, and he really is an underrated character at least when you consider Ethan Phillips is a good actor.
Watching it again is really painful in a "Why are they doing this?!" sense that seemed to evade me the first time around. At least my mind was throwing away anything to get in the way of my immersion.
>>69115272
That scene when he's looking up at the founder and one's looking up while the other's looking down. Camera was close up on his face too.
>>69115318
>Camera was close up on his face too.
For like 2 minutes straight at that.
How the fuck did they not catch that in editing?
>>69103691
epic post /b/ros
>>69115314
>it's a Dukat calls Kira to brag about banging her mother episode
too bad they didn't drop a reveal that Ziyal was Kira's half-sister. They went to all that trouble explaining how Ziyal was the daughter of a Bajoran mistress that Dukat truly loved, but the dates don't actually work out
>>69114981
>I took one sociology class in high school
>therefore I should ever open my mouth on the topic
I have a degree in anthropology and minored in sociology. Go fuck yourself.
>>69115270
>Decide to overcome your ennui and start a school. It's not what you love doing, but it's something you can do with your education, and it helps out.
>Goes okay for a little while, but the classes are pretty small
>Eventually, this crusty Bajoran cunt demands you teach her backwards-ass religion as fact in your classroom
>Fight against it
>Someone BOMBS YOUR GODDAMN CLASSROOM because you won't worship their tribal fetishes
>Try to rebuild, but not as many children come back
>Eventually just give up once the only two students remaining graduate.
>Have to break up the family and go off-world for nearly a year at a time in order to be the scientist you know how to be.
>Irishman manages to avoid whiskey dick while you're back on the station long enough to get you pregnant again.
>Get in a huge accident, another woman has to carry your child
>Irishman might be cheating on you with her
>Your baby is healthy. Probably the best news you've gotten in years.
>Get possessed by evil space ghost
>Everything finally evens out, and then there's a multi-quadrant war.
>Your daughter gets lost in a giant space vagina and comes out a fully-grown retard
>Finally, your husband gets another posting, and you leave that godforsaken station once and for all.
Being Keiko is suffering.
>>69115270
>>69115576
Anyone here play Star Trek Online? Some big shit's supposed to be announced tomorrow, involving the TOS Connie.
>>69115943
>Anyone here play Star Trek Online
I think most people in Trek threads are over 18
>>69115628
Yes, and I want a full report on my desk by 0900.
>>69115943
>ST:O
I played it for a little, until I realized it was a pay to win game.
>>69109548
I'd still fuck the shit out of her...
>literally
why not both
also sometimes star trek did philosophy so badly it was embarrassing like that season 2 episode of TNG where they basically admit the prime directive is comparable to religious dogma or when they let an entire planet die in enterprise for no reason
>>69116002
>pay to win
You can literally buy cash shop currency with in-game currency. It's pay-to-not-grind at worst.It's still a shit game.
>>69116170
Eh, in any case, I got bored with it quickly.
One of my buddies played for quite a while. The 'IKS Clearly Now, The Rain Has Gone' was evidently crewed almost exclusively by Naussicans.
>>69115943
>>69115994
>>69116002
>>69116170
>>69116284
>Introduce Romulan faction
>They have to join Starfleet or the fucking Klingons at level 10
>no sick three-faction fights
>no possibility for four faction fights with Cardassians/Dominions
JFMSU
>>69116383
>They have to join Starfleet or the fucking Klingons at level 10
what kind of fucked up shit is this
>>69102794
The more burning question/problem at hand is to decide which one of the girls in your pic to choose if you could pick one -and only one- for sex.
>>69117002
Vulcan master race, btw
>>69117002
Vulcan or the redhead.
>>69117002
>Choose a girl for sex
Ugh, no thanks.
>>69102966
>>69117035
Hey there T'/pol/!
>>69111295
It dies with Roddenberry.
>>69102837
Yes. 100%
>>69117285
What the fuck is this?
>>69102966
I totally agree. Star Trek's universe is ripe for peak TV epic narratives
>all these plebs who want more serialization
I bet you enjoy the episodes of Rick Berman
>>69112284
I'm not conservative but I hate when SJWs push their anti-meritocracy, anti-logic natrative over and over again.
I'd much rather see flawed three dimensional characters having to make tough choices in a tough world/universe.
Not.."I'm a ninety-pound women and I can beat up twenty men at once".,.or "I'm a high IQ black doctor with a heart of gold."
That's not diversity. That's embarassing infantilizing, propaganda.
>>69115537
>>it's a Dukat calls Kira to brag about banging her mother episode
>>69117791
The biggest crime the DS9 writers ever committed was no having Kira get SCALE'd by Dukat. It would have been the perfect poetry.
>>69117453
Friendly reminder that Roddenberry was quite fucked up and would've ruined TNG if left to it.
His ideas were lacking a consistency and the characters suffered from the forced writing from him.
Roddenbarry left less of a mark on the Franchise than Rick Berman did because he was the executive producer in one way or another of TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT. He also was the producer of the first three TNG films.
His name is on everything from TNG to ENT.
>>69113832
There is no math that cures inequality.
Inequality arises from an asymmetric distribution of intelligence. There is literally no cure for this. Some races are just genetically smarter than others.
>>69117963
How do you explain inequality within a singular race then?
"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
>>69118016
Same argument.
Natural selection applies everywhere.
>>69115576
Did v you say... Oomox?
>>69112581
>an opening segment of an entire episode revolves around the figurine
>it's 13,000 years old
>created by the Master of Tarkin Hill
>he used ceramics techniques centuries ahead of this time
>Picard received it as a gift from his mentor
>He held his breathe as he examined it
>The man died the next day
>Picard tosses it aside when Riker finds his fucking Big Book of Shakespeare
>>69102837
I enjoyed how Ghost in the SHell Stand Alone Complex colour coded their episodes to indicate OVERARCHING PLOT EPISODE and ONE OFF EPISODE.
>>69114273
As a sociologist, I dont really get your point. Star trek does deal with social change, revolutions, religion as a social movement with broader societal implicarions, demography etc. Ever see an episode of xenophobia among colonists as opposed to galactic travel? Surely thats a sociological topic. I love how TNG explores the human condition. It takes a light philosphical turn in that way. What does it mean to be human as you leave Earth and encounter other sentient races?
Having said that, the anthropolgical perspective and the overwhelming budding of the multicultural movements of the 90s is present throughout the show. Those sick perverts known as the Baby Boomers started having kids. What a gross cohort of arrogant back-patters.
>>69112468
>A post-scarcity society can't be socialist
Well, they have no money, so it's definitely not capitalist
>>69118239
Socialism exists as a counter to capitalism. So no, it wouldnt really be what you think. It would be like post-communism in the sense that humans have revrted back to egalitarianism due to the lack of existence of scarcity.
>>69118239
>they have no money
Let's not go down that path again.
>>69118016
>>69118088
>singular race
>shows two races
>>69118239
Post-scarcity societies evolve out of capitalistic ones. Socialism is an anti-evolutionary cancer that requires the strong to take care of the weak, rather than the strong building the future.
>>69118420
It answers the question twice, silly goose.
>>69102794
I watch Star Trek: Continues for philosophy, sociology, and science-fiction and it does a pretty damn good job of it. May 28th is Episode 6 wide release.
>>69118468
I will not be spoken to this way!
>>69118235
>Sociologist
>Generalizing an age demographic this hard
>>69118323
>It would be like post-communism
I don't see how you can classify it as post communism when it was reached purely through scientific advancement and has nothing to do with either communist society or Marxist theories
Just because Marxism theories an egalitarian end-state doesn't mean egalitarian states are Marxist
>>69118442
A capitalistic society weakens the entire civilization as a whole by preying on stupidity and ensuring there are more stupid people just healthy enough to breed more stupid people.
>>69103614
It sure does feel bad. I love the adventure of the week stuff.
>>69118585
*theorizes
>>69118557
>>69118538
>May 26th is Episode 6 wide release?
whaaat? awesome! I was hoping they'd make more. The cast varies in terms of quality but that guy playing Kirk has his Shatner impression down pat and overall it does a great job capturing the original feel of TOS.
Mommy, can you jack me off while i sleep?
>>69118420
My God, Tyrone. This is a new low, even for you. You asked for evidence representing the inequality within races.
This chart literally shows you the range of IQs (and thus their relative inequality) found within not one, but two races. Two examples illustrating the trend that you find so maddeningly difficult to comprehend.
Listen Tyrone, you are making my case for me. And doing so in front of a bunch of people who can now corroborate how stupid you are.
>>69118582
Sorry, let me be PC all the time, especially anonymously on 4chan. Ill never disturb your sensibilities again.
>>69118642
Wow, nice to see Grant from Mythbusters got into acting
>>69118585
Social change follows technological change necessarily...
Also, marxism=/=communism, hence the distinction between Mao communism, Stalinism, Cuban communism etc
>>69118642
Yeah, the entire thing just "FEELS" like TOS completely to me. TOS had all the same problems Continues has only Continues purposely puts those into it. Vic Mignogna went full autist recreating everything even the faults and I love it.
Also, that pic is terrible.
>>69118587
Capitalism is flawed, unquestionably. But Socialism is the disease that will kill Western Europe. Socialism requires a forced population growth that keeps the pyramid scheme going. When you run out of babies you then have to import less intelligent immigrants who will then ultimately destroy society.
If we make it to a post scarcity future it will be because of capitalism, not socialism
>>69118657
That wasn't me, the person who originally asked.
I misinterpreted your original comment as implying inequality arises from the IQ distribution between races, mainly because you threw in the line about races on the end which didn't actually have anything to do with what you were saying unless one took it as explaining inequality in general.
>>69118736
>Social change follows technological change necessarily...
Wrong
>Also, marxism=/=communism
Which is why I wrote
>communist society or Marxist theories
>>69102794
>Star Trek "fans"
>A bunch of 90's Instagram kids doing duck face and le sexy eyes
The new Star Trek is going to be cancerous if this is who they are pandering to. Just make another normal Star Trek, how hard is it.
>>69118704
he probably helps with the the props and rigging electronics in the sets too.
>>69118794
I think it'd be made more from a totalitarian regime than anything else. Not that I'd like that one bit at all.
>>69117746
>Not.."I'm a ninety-pound women and I can beat up twenty men at once".,.or "I'm a high IQ black doctor with a heart of gold."
That was Babylon 5 though. You gonna start hating on Babylon 5 now, you pleb?
>>69102794
Say it ain't so.
>>69118870
>90s
>kids
Not for 2 more years. People born in 1998 are 18 now.
>shatner first captain
>janeway first female captain
>sisko first black captain
>tfw not the first trans captain
who /auditioning/ here
>>69111264
Hey, she had some problems, it seems life fucked her one too many times in the ass and what not.
>>69102794
And how long did it take you to figure that out?
>>69117726
Rick Berman hated serialization.
You don't make any sense.
>>69118955
The next show should have a male Dax host be captain, played by a FtM actor.
>>69103165
>actually existing in times of rampant social inequality
lol
what the fuck is this supposed to mean
You think left wing rhetoric was more legitimate in the past than it is today?
Only seeing TOS and TNG, I always thought TNG was a dry, boring universe. It was TOO philosophical without actually ever saying anything interesting. We have to work together despite our differences? That's it? There's like 200 episodes of that crap. And I don't think they ever showed the crew of the enterprise taking part in it, Worf aside. They were too "enlightened" to be interesting and too perfect to make any actual points.
The worst is the generation that grew up on it that thinks it's more than it was. The people who really think "we all need to just work together," not realizing that we all want different things.
>>69119243
Watch DS9. It tears the TNG mindset a new hole by returning to the chaotic universe of TOS.
>>69103165
>in times of
Nothing has changed, except place names.
>>69119277
It's on my watchlist, but I've never been sure if I wanted to start watching it.
>>69112284
Star Gate is indisputably the best Sci-Fi to ever be made (sans Universe).
>Doesn't pander to any agenda
>Actually creative
>Good effects for the time, and actually pioneered many stunt and visual effects still used today
>Extremely well cast except for Jonas
>Minimal meme shit
>Kept traditional weapons and didn't opt out for cheaper laser effects for the Earth weapons
>The only Sci-Fi to ever show the Earth evolving from early exploration without space ships, to ending with us having intergalactic warp ships with shields and shit
Trek fans are just blasted that their new show is going to be a meme riddled action-fest quip show, or some brown and bloom drama about how humanity is shit and we need to all praise Allah.
>>69118833
Youre right, social adaptations like autists using the internet to bluntly state their explanationless opinions dont come out of the invention of the internet itself. Youre really really smart.
>>69111295
>forgetting Star Trek: Continues
Also, sad pic anon, it hurts.
I saw this in a TNG documentary done last year and really felt bad, as bad as the Kes actress.
Apparently she did not get along with the cast of TNG and hated the experience.
>>69118764
>Vic Mignogna
That man is hands down bat shit crazy. Everyone in the anime community knows it
>>69102794
I would bang every one of these chics in their twats.
>>69119372
In DS9, the characters are flawed and imperfect, are frequently at odds with each other, and are permitted to make bad decisions and learn lessons from the consequences. The idea of "We have to work together despite our differences" is actually taken seriously as the galactic powers (Feds, Klings, Roms, etc.) face a new force that threatens to annihilate them all. It's the anti-TNG, much more in the style of TOS (if not story content) than any other Trek.
>>69119477
Most likely, but that is what it takes to do art.
>>69119569
>the characters are... imperfect
Stopped reading there
>>69119556
People in TOS uniforms are fake "fans" to be honest.
>>69102794
>arcing storylines
>space explorations
So basically a combination of TNG and OS with Twitter followers steering the general direction of the story like a CW shitshow.
>>69119384
>doesn't pander to any agenda
you mean ASIDE from divine intervention theorists?
>>69119712
What is this new """"" stuff lately? That and the "t" thing these past weeks/month or so. I don't keep up with memes.
>>69119775
>""""
In name only. For example, a Star Trek "fan" is a person who is called a Star Trek fan, but actually isn't one. The more quotation marks, the more untruthful the title.
>t.
Scandinavian meme for attribution. Placed at the end of a post, it is followed by a description of the person making the post.
t. Meme Expert
>>69119712
what does that have to do with me fucking them?
>>69119775
Some quipster realized that if you throw a bunch of extra quotations around something, it apparently increases the meme factor by making something even more questionable.
Don't question meme equations, because they are usually created by high-spectrum autists who simply exist on a higher plane.
>>69119722
>VOTE NOW!!!
>Does Captain Azikiwe leave the women of planet Schmidt to their doom to save he fellow officer Aaronovich from E.D. Limpestein's medical horrors or does he stay and recuse them from a fate worse than death itself, the dreaded Twerkitits!?
>>69119877
>>69119923
Terrible, no wonder it is used as a troll.
>>69120043
How is it a troll? When someone says 'Dukat was a good villain' and someone else replies
>""""""""""""""""""""Villain""""""""""""""""""""
There is no intent to troll anyone
>>69120043
>troll
What?
Who do you see trolling?
>>69120117
>>69120138
>tfw the lost art of trolling is just every day conversation now
>>69120211
I strongly question your oldfag credentials if you see any aspect of """"posting as involving trolling people
>>69120345
>>69105834
Enjoy your trans andorian, QI'yaH
If mean gene roddenberry was supposedly so """leftist""" then why are all of his children white
>>69119243
Star Trek got boring. Sure, the spinoffs had some of the most powerful and emotional episodes in Trek, but overall, as a series, they're all pretty forgettable. As evidenced by the fact that most people have forgotten them.
People still remember Kirk fighting the lizard man or "banging the green chick". The original Trek was an action adventure show with a dash of poignancy to elevate it from mindless action. There are waaaay too many Trek fans who either forget this or are in denial about it. Usually they're the ones complaining about J.J. Trek even though it uses those same ingredients and has been a huge success.
See I wonder if we'd had a film like Trek 09 as TMP if Star Trek wouldn't have a fan following akin to Star Wars. It was around first, was hugely popular in reruns and people were disappointed when they saw TMP and its tone was nothing like people remembered. It was as if Roddenberry and Co. said "What Star Wars is doing? Yeah, do the opposite of that".
Star Wars is a great ride. Yes, it is paper thin in terms of story and depth. It's fun, exciting and feels like a real adventure. Meanwhile Star Trek just got more preachy and "issue oriented" despite the fact that TV taboos were pretty much gone and we no longer needed Star Trek to covertly talk about things like racism, drugs, etc. when regular TV was talking about those things openly and more boldly than Trek ever did. And rather than say "that phase of the franchise is over, let's get back to our roots", they just kept on and got preachy. Preach is boring.
I'll take Kirk fighting the lizard man any day.
>>69120794
Everything you've stated is wrong.
>>69112056
Holy crap... that's Andrea Martin, no? All that makeup and I can still tell it's she.
>>69121213
>>69120824
No. You're wrong. Star Trek rarely hits what it aspires to be, and often it just annoys with its pseudo-philosophy that espouses "muh equality." Well, fucking duh. Of course we should treat all people well. But if some of those people tend to underperform no matter how well we treat them.... than it is no longer "our fault" and no low-budget ham-fisted scifi allegory is going to change that fact.
>>69121498
>than
>>69121498
You are the full representative of the shallow vapidity of your generation. No wonder you don't like something designed for hip audiences of 1966. All you want now is people fighting "cool aliens" and "rad explosions".
"Wow, fuck philosophy, or whatever words I think old men say, I want immediate thrills and gratification dudebrah, wheres my lizards bitch I can't watch this old Star Trek bullshit. WTF I can't watch this on my iPhone 7 it takes too much attention span holy shit I give up trying to follow this fucking bullshit plots like Spock's Brain lel memes brain brain what is brain going to post that on imgur now, oh lmao Q is going to judge Picard what a double douchebag oh haha got txts from my gf she wanna Star Trek and chill, fuxdis pseudo intellectual bullshitz brah I'm out."
>>69121716
i like star trek but you are projecting like a fucking 3mm
>>69118642
Oh shit yes. That show is way better than it has any right to be.
They nailed the atmosphere.
>>69121716
he's right though. Star Trek was good for it's time, but times have changed. If someone wants philosophical sci-fi, then sci-fi books are much better than a very lame tv series.
All star trek is good for is 'equality,' but it's easy to see how equality is a meme word. No one is equal and no one will ever be equal. It's in our nature to compete and strive to be better than one another.
>>69121716
Star Trek was good when it had good character drama. It was very occasionally good when it tried to do an interesting sci-fi idea.
Star Trek was shit when it tried to do philosophy. Every single time.
Even retarded Trekkies who claim to love the franchise for its high-minded ideals, if asked to name their favorite episodes or movies, will name the ones with strong character drama. Balance of Terror, Doomsday Machine, Best of Both Worlds, Wrath of Khan.
Nobody wants to see C-list actors droning on about some 1960s pop-culture version of a socialist utopia.
>>69119573
that and touch underage kids apparently.
>>69121716
>Trekkie
>accusing someone else of being shallow
If everything about Star Trek were somehow converted to a more traditional drama, people would call it pretentious shit. It's not deep. It says absolutely nothing interesting. The few things it does say, it hammers in episode after episode.
>>69119384
>>Extremely well cast except for Jonas
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
>>69122592
Are you calling Vic Mignogna aNeelix?
>>69122374
Every single thing you've said is wrong.
>>69122374
How could you be so wrong?
My favorite episode is Measure of a Man which is entirely philosophical. It has character driven elements true, but the episode is about respect and equality for all sentient life.
>>69123228
Ah. The Star Trek episode about respect and equality for all sentient life? I liked that one too. That was a good one. I don't think they ever made another one quite like it.
The only good parts of the entire franchise are TOS, Star Trek II, Star Trek IV, and the JJ Abrams movies, which are just like TOS.
>>69123387
>just like TOS
Nice try Jew Jew
>>69123365
And how does this detract from my point at all? You were wrong, just admit it and move on.
>>69123365
The very next season, when Data gave birth.
>>69123464
You described half of the episodes of TNG.
Just because there's a philosophy to it doesn't make it good. Like I've said in other posts, all they do is this bland collectivism that they beat through the viewers head in every other episode.
I'm not him btw, but I am another person who shit on it in this thread.
>>69123417
It is, though. TOS was Kirk and Spock, and action, and fistfights, and green alien bitches, and character drama, with a little bit of social commentary sprinkled in.
>>69123671
You're saying Measure of a Man is a bad episode? It's objectively one of the best TNG episodes.
Sure, many episodes of TNG had a similar theme but this was easily the most poignant and well-written.
>>69123772
what social commentary?
>>69123805
Nah, I'm not saying it's bad. It was a good episode. Even bad shows can poop out good episodes, not that TNG is terrible. I'm saying that considering TNG a philosophical show when it never exercised any philosophical muscles is unearned. The philosophy of the show was paper thin.
>>69124047
Maybe people aren't saying it right. It's not that episodes of TNG, or Star Trek in general are overly philosophical per say.
The theme itself is a philosophical challenge to our current society. It is progressive by default and many episodes reinforce this, just as many try and deconstruct it. I mean, DS9 itself is my favorite series and it is more or less a deconstruction of Roddenberry's ideals but even so, it also champions them just as often.
>>69102794
she is the fat red in Orange is the new Black now
>>69102794
The Janice Rand chick is cute, but I'm also a little annoyed that she throws off the gender swap. What would the male version of that hairdo look like, anyway?
>>69124295
>per say
I hope they don't leave out the Ferengi
>>69124295
>Maybe people aren't saying it right
>per say
humorous
>>69102794
>It's going to be a series called "Star Trek", but it's not going to be Star Trek
>>69119384
i was about to ask what you guys would recommend, i've only watched star gate and atlantis. Would anyone think that i would enjoy star trek as well? What would be a good next series for me?
>>69111735
I'm sure he had his reasons for staying.
>>69128293
TNG if you liked the standalone episodes of Stargate, DS9 if you liked the arc episodes of Stargate.
But honestly, that's a dumb way to pick a Trek to watch. For the best possible experience, watch TOS and TNG and DS9, in that order.
>>69128402
i'll do that, thanks bro! is something like Battlestar Galactica any good?
>>69117285
Sweet jesus, that's the gayest thing I've ever seen.
>>69117495
I'm guessing it's from Star Trek: Online
>>69128386
She aged like dog shit.
>>69128488
Except for completely falling apart at the ending, yes.
>>69128488
Yes, except it completely falls apart at the end.
>>69128535
>>69128579
>>69119712
>Dude on a leash
>Life size Picard marionette
Something's gone wrong with Trek fans.
>>69128813
Low test.
>>69128813
Seems legit
>>69128871
>posting the Obama-free version
>>69128914
Oh fuck, I must have missed those
>>69102794
>of philosophy, sociology, and science-fiction
you think ST TOS was all that?
>>69102819
i watched ironically. the colliding space ship faking, table shaking and faling all over was hillarious acting
>>69111611
JJ didn't kill it.
it was just his vision of star trek. Sorta of Like how Gundam Wing was an alternate storyline to the gundam universe
If JJ really killed the Trek, then he wouldn't have had the storyl;ine take place in an alternate reality where Kahn kills Kirk and not Spock.
I didn't mind the JJ movies even before I figured this out, but I respect JJ for the choice he made.
>>69118139
where did they do that?
>>69128952
We're still missing a Tupac though.
>>69111101
cheetos.jpg
Maybe OP should talk to Worf. I love DS9 and Voyager.
>>69119195
Yes, because they were the underdogs back then.
>tfw new Star Trek
>>69102837
Generally worked for Babylon 5 (word to the mothership).
>>69102794
porn when for those girls?
>>69129376
Damar will drink no kanar under par... and no Saurian brandy that isn't dandy, and no Aldebaran whiskey that isn't frisky, and no Romulan ale that isn't hearty and hale, and no springwine before its time.
>>69129595
>>69129724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwpcUawjK0
You will all exercise Punishment Protocol 9 Alpha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-la1G38lyiI
