In the first Iron Man movie he suffered a direct hit from a tank round with only superficial damage to his armor yet in Civil War he gets punched by Cap and Bucky and that fucks up his armor. Now I know that both of them have super strength but come on... his suit ate a tank round without much trouble and Cap's punches are supposed to be that severe? No way.
It was like a T-54 or something
Hes taken more than tank rounds, example being Thors hammer and full pelted lightning. Explanation is lazy writing, I mean what did you expect after IMan 3?
>He hasn't noticed the suits have progressively sacrificed more and more defense for more and more offense and maneuverability as time has gone on
I miss the mechanical whines the suit would make with every movement. Its all but silent after the first Iron man movie.
>ironman involved movie
>doesn't show his progression on his suit building
DEE-ROPPPPPPPPPED
He punched him with his shield.
>>69050749
>He punched him with his shield.
>this is suppose to be an answer to OP's question
>being hit by a peak human with a shield is equivalent to a direct hit from a tank
>>69050749
which absorbs all kinetic energies so nobody should feel anything
>>69050359
Tank round deflected off him. Cap was precision strike with the hardest metal alloy in existence from a guy with the strength to bench press a buick.
Surplus slavshit monkey model from the 50s, and the ammunition probably received all the love and attention of a Muslim bride. It's a miracle it fired at all.
>>69050805
Still no one should have been hurt
>>69050790
Answers this
>>69050805
look at this fanboy trying to protect his hero's image on cinema. thread bump
>>69050359
He's been playing at being a superhero for so long he can't afford proper materials anymore.
This movie was fucking dumb as shit.
It's absolutely pathetic that grown men go to the cinema to watch this crap.
I saw it with my nephew. What's your excuse?
>>69050613
>he doesn't rate Ironman 3
>>69050359
Do you remember the part where the thing was built like a tank and it took like half an hour and a machine to put it on and off?
>>69051150
I'm going to go see it with my 61-year-old dad. We're going to love it.
>>69050359
Cap is super human.
He kicked a car to knock out a soldier, and then held a helicopter with his own hands.
>>69051150
i saw it with my wife's son
>>69051150
Nah, I rewatched the Winter Soldier today, it was great. I have faith Cap 3 will be just as good.
>>69051150
You're still a grown man who saw it and let your nephew dictate what you were going to see.
Who's the pathetic beta now.
>>69051181
>IM3
>good
ahahahaha
>>69051356
A meri-kah! It's time for another lesson.
What went wrong?
>>69051416
Nothing that I can see.
>>69051239
Straya here. You won't be disappointed. I'd say it's the best Marvel movie yet.
>>69051416
I liked the Mark V.
I like how he always has his energy source at his chest behind some glass instead of properly armored.
Is it that important that the blue light is seen?
>>69050359
every marvelfag should realize that they're making all these movies for the braindead masses
>>69051807
Everyone knows.
>>69051416
>>69051485
this tbqh, that suit if effay af
>>69052174
Remember the MK2 crashed through the roof when it powered down cuz it's hella heavy>
Gweneth Paltrow can throw the MK5, so it's like 20 pounds tops?
>you now hear arc reactor activation sound
>>69052289
Sorry, nothing.
Just inconsistencies to help with the movie. Like how Bucky can obliterate bricks and metal but he doesn't break bones.
And how Cap's shield is supposed to nullify impacts and vibrations but he regularly gets knocked off his feet.
His jet boots were literally rendered inoperable by Cap holding on to them.
>>69051677
It's a super secret cannonthat blows off Bucky's metal arm eventually
>>69052407
Spider-Man even jokes about it in the movie where he says something like his shield defying physics.
>>69052697
>That thing does not follow the laws of physics at all
>>69052441
He also punches his soles.
The first suit needed a dozen of robot arms to put it on though. Tony goes for the high speed low drag suits in later movies.
>>69052441
>>69052782
somewhere along the line, marvel decided the ironman suit is too OP, when a bunch of fire dudes ripped all the ironman suits in IM3 like toilet paper, it's their way or easing the audience into the nerfing of the suits.
>>69050776
>peak human
Captain America's strength is beyond peak. He holds a helicopter down and prevents it from taking off.
I thought it was going to be so one sided in favour of Tony's team but it was fairly even. Everyone seemed to have fair weaknesses and the airport scene was really good. I think Vision getting nerfed for the movie was probably a good thing.
>>69052959
Yeah idk i feel like they really nerfed the suits
Ironically Iron man 1 is still the best ironman movie and my favorite modern marvel movie next to spiderman 1 and 2raimiand the 2002 Hulk
>>69050776
>peak human
Cap has superhuman strength bro.
>>69051219
Nah bro totally peak human.
Any human with enough training could stop a helicopter flying off with his bare hands and also kick a truck hard enough to send a person flying 10 feet backwards.
Marvel is for kids.
DC is for adults.
There's way too many kids on 4chan lately. I know some of you are underage. Do yourselves a favor and leave 4chan forever, it's going to ruin your life if you don't.
>>69053341
Seems like he could hit hard enough to destroy Iron Man, especially if he's hitting him over and over, especially with that shield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAEsWbQooo
Why the fuck hasn't Tony made a suit out of vibranium?
>>69053430
Because T'Chaka wouldn't give him any.
>>69053430
Because it's rare as fuck. Pretty sure they used all they had to make Cap's sheild.
>>69053449
Ultron didn't need that nigger to get all his vibranium, I'm sure Tony would find a way too, with all his money.
>>69053490
>Ultron didn't need that nigger
No, he needed Klaue to steal it from that nigger.
It's hard to determine how strong Cap is in these movies, I don't think they've decided it at all and just changes it to suit their needs
In the comics he's weak af compared to iron man and thor
>>69050359
I think that Tony made adjustments to the suits as he went along a different design schema. As another Anon pointed out, the MK.2 was so heavy it literally fell through a roof unpowered, but pretty much every other suit after that is light. We actively in the first IM also see Tony make adjustments to the suits, and also in IM3.
My thinking is that the suits are expensive as fuck to make, just from a materials standpoint alone. And to continue using super-dense, super-rare materials wouldn't be fiscally viable. So he switched to different but still sufficient materials in order to off-set the financial cost. There is a bit of evidence in IM3 and Avengers 2. Tony isn't all that upset about the destruction of all the suits after IM3, probably because it was mostly just a time investment thing. And in the Avengers 2, all of the Iron Legion drones are mostly inconsequentially destroyed by the Avengers.
Tony seems to treat his new armor with the design mentality that he'll get into a short, but intensive fight then leave and get them swapped out at Stark tower. He also is moving towards maneuverability and offense in order to combat flying bricks and the like.
>>69053490
>>69053510
Can you guys cool it with the n word? It's extremely offensive
>>69053604
>BUTTERS.jpg
>>69053604
What's the matter boy? YOUR NAME IS TOBY!
>>69053576
It's probably less to do with cost and more to do with how portable he can make it.
A super heavy suit isn't portable. But a lighter one won't have the same defensive capability.
He is sacrificing armour for speed and portability so that he can become Iron Man quicker when he really needs to.
He probably has some stronger suits at home for when he really really needs them (like Hulkbuster)
>>69053604
Fuck off Krager
>>69053662
This is true, and he probably also went towards "weaker" armor given his concern with the proliferation of his tech. I mean, literally two (three, depending on how you look at it) movies with Iron Man are about Tony's tech being stolen/copied/whatever. By making and then using weak ass versions, if someone steals it, he is minimizing the damage they can do. Imagine if Ultron stole a shit load of Hulkbusters, and not just the Iron Legion.
>>69050685
i fucked your girlfriend
reminder avengers will never be able to top this
isn't Cap's 'superpower' that he got from the super soldier serum peak human condition ? How the fuck is kicking cars, pulling down freaking helicopters and smashing through Iron Man's armor (even if it's with his vibranium shield)?
>>69053739
>>69053764
Not in the movies. In the movies he actually has super strength.
>>69053764
Super human. Did you even read the thread you fucking mexican?
>>69053764
Mcu films are based off the ultimate versions of tbe characters, ultimate cap is super-human, not a human in peak form
>>69053171
No you retard, human peak means he's strong like benedikt magnusson, quick as usain bolt and agile like jonathan horton at the same time, no amount of training would give a normal person traits like this fuckiwith.
>>69053604
But he is a nigger...?
Also..
>complaining about racism on 4 chan... please...
>>69053817
The movies does NOT use the most powerfull version of Hulk..
I feel like people don't watch movies any more. This is a simpleton movie, a great one at that but still for simpletons. Most of these threads trying to find flaws in the movie are all answered in the movie, barely anyone is finding actual flaws.
Which quip-moment got the best reaction at your cinema?
Was it when Bucky asked Sam to move his chair forward? Or when Vision flew through Ant-Man?
>>69053839
>magnuson
Not counted hes a roid head
>>69053941
When shoshana showed her face
>>69050359
Did you forget in IM3 when the grunts were literally tearing the suits apart like they were tin cans? There's no consistency between any of the movies
>>69051150
say that about ever chuck norris, van dam, and segal movie ever made and john wayne, and who ever else does acton movies.
dumber then shit, so what?
>>69053941
Every antman scene was pretty funny Tbh
>when he's tiny and fucking around with the insides of tony's suit
>>69053941
When sam expressed his hatred for the winter soldier's quips
>>69054069
>This is your conscience
>We don't really talk anymore
>>69051416
He went back to the circle chest piece instead of staying with the triangle one
>>69053341
Segal is for Adults
Norris is for Kids.
>>69054094
i know right, WHAT THE FUCK
>>69054098
Is Van Damme the Fox of this analogy?
>>69053698
> Slower than a DEX build
> Weaker than a STR build
Wew, he didn't put points into INT either
>>69054178
He's just a big man in a suit of armor really. Take that off, and what is he?
>>69053839
Peak human is the limit attainable with training by a human.
No human can train to become strong enough to pull a helicopter back down.
>>69054216
The guy who built that thing in a cave, with a box of scraps.
>>69054069
His face when he becomes giant and grabs onto War Machine was hilarious.
>>69054037
>subtle punani posting
who /snatched/ here
> hurr durr he'll punch the weak spots
Haven't watched it, but if this is how it goes down I'll fucking scream. Can Cap disarm a tank if he hits it in its weak spots? Iron Man should be a fucking reverse Terminator, with the soft parts inside. Cap should be PUMMELING him for hours for it to even cause significant damage, or constantly attack the neck of the suit.
>>69054216
The guy whose father built that shield, it belongs to him
But what side is Hank Pym on?
>>69054288
did you even read the thread? well you said hurr durr so you're probably retarded and not just pretending
>>69053576
>>69053662
>>69053698
fuck off dcuck
why didn't he burn his hand?
>>69050359
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel BvS defenders. Stop giving DC fans a bad name and grow up.
>>69050359
Just forget about the fact that all of his newer model suits were torn apart like they were made of tissue paper in IM3.
>>69054363
the term is dcuck. I prefer dckeks tho
>>69054347
>Explain why Iron Man's Armour isn't as strong as it used to be
>HURRRR DKEK!!!!
Are you retarded?
>>69053122
Reported for no spoiler
It's pretty annoying how Cap can be a complete moralfag until it comes to Bucky then he acts full retard.
>>69054411
nice green text leddit, you should lurk first
read the thread again, oh you cant find the most upboated post??? boo hoo dcuck
>>69054409
DCucks implies that all DC fans are the one making the retarded BvS and anti-Marvel threads. This is incorrect. Most DC fans hate BvS - these guys are just hipsters who like things people hate and hate things people like.
>>69054443
This, I prefer DC's comics to Marvel's but Marvel's movies to DC's.
>>69054439
>>69051677
Basic road safety you heathen.
>>69054439
Why would I read the thread when the posts you highlighted are all explaining the reason behind Iron Man being weaker.
One of those posts were mine, and I fucking love Iron Man.
>>69053604
What's offensive is one stupid twat deciding that he has to parade round with a name on his posts, even though nobody else does. You're the nigger here, you narcissistic cunt. Why don't you just fuck off?
>>69053736
>literally raping my hand
>>69053922
Ultimate (as in a title) comic universe, not ultimate as in #1 long time supa strong.
> going back to watch Phase 1 again
> that drop in quality as soon as Phase 2 hits
Will Phase 3 be as good as 1 or another turd like 2?
>>69053028
That was particularly incoherent - even before he grabs onto the railing of the building he was holding it down. How much does Caps weigh?
>>69052174
>The no fun allowed since Extremis implants
I miss the suitcase
>Capeshit thread #32879604
>>69050359
You forget that, previously, AntMan, Bucky and Cap have fucked up the armor
>>69053430
it's hella expensive, even for Tony
>>69054355
watch the scene again, he had half-assed iron man glove
>>69054355
>bullet didn't pierce a wafer thin articulated metal
regardless what its made off, this is absolute bollocks
>>69055315
It's a fucking superhero film you autistic fuck.
>>69055332
OK then why didn't the black iron man just escape from his suit and fly away when vision hit him?
>>69053941
Probably Sam and Bucky in the car. Can't remember whether people laughed harder when Bucky asked Sam to move his chair forward or the look on their faces after Steve kissed Sharon.
>>69053171
>>69053028
>peak human
>couldn't stop bucky's metal arm attacking him in previous film
>Meanwhile spiderman stopped it no issue
>>69055353
Because he can;t fly you stupid fuck.
>>69055412
Because Spiderman is a lot stronger than Cap.
>>69055476
but its capeshit. theres your reasoning.
>>69055412
spidey is stronger than cap. He can lift cars ffs
>>69055539
cap can lift cars.
all spiderman has over cap is webs
>>69055505
You're literally retarded.
>Character who makes awesome tech and super strong suits
>Has a glove that is portable and also super strong
>HURRR THEN WHY CANT A NON SUPERPOWERED GUY FLYYYYYY!!!!
>>69055315
even adamantium? get out dcuck
>>69054933
I quoted your post because it answers the fucking autist his questions
>>69055557
when did he lift a car?
inb4 autistic comic
>>69055176
How many characters in this movie have a cape? (Only Vision)
>>69055633
In the episode The Bridge (Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) superhuman Mike Peterson pushes a bulldozer across a football field.
Afterwards Mike and his trainer exchange these words:
Mike: Did I beat Captain America’s time?
Trainer: Not even close.
>>69055705
"Capeshit" is used to describe any superhero movie
>>69050359
>Iron Man stops being Iron Man after Iron Man 3
>still is Iron Man in the other movies that happen after that
How?
>>69053145
>2002 Hulk
it was 2004
Iron man 1 and spiderman 1, sure
dunno why everybody liked 2, i thought it was garbage
i did like hulk, and I'm the only person I know who does
>>69050379
>T54/55
The T54/55 has a D10s 100mm gun that was used in tank destroyers in WWII.
The D10s has a muzzle velocity of 895m/s.
Now, Iron Man was WELL within 50 metres of the tank, so we'll ignore velocity drop for this instance.
Given that the shell did not explode, but rather just shatter, we can gather that it is likely a penetrator shell that could not pierce the armor.
The lightest penetrator for the D10s weighs 9.4kg.
Now 9.4kg at 895m/s is the equivalent of 3.76 megajoules of energy, which is like getting 384 tons dropped on top of you.
Bow if we review the footage, it seems to be a British Chieftain tank with a weird turret - possibly pocketed armor added to the exterior to defeat multi-stage penetrators.
The chieftain is armed with a 120mm rifled canon that fires saboted penetrator rounds at about 1,370 m/s.
A 120mm penetrator weighs about 12kg on average which means that it would hit Iron Man with about 11.26 megajoules of force.
11.26 megajoules is the equivalent of over 1,146 tons being dropped on your head.
A prize fighter will hit you with about half a ton of force with the best executed punch he's ever managed.
So, unless Captain America is capable of punching well over 2,300 times as hard as a lifetime prize fighter, he wouldn't even phase Iron Man.
A mosquito stuck in Iron Man's suit would be more of an irritation.
Not to mention, if Captain America was that strong, he would pink mist anyone he punched.
>>69055985
>that much info
Impressive.
Most impressive!
>>69053953
so is usain bolt
>>69055766
>Pushing a bulldozer
>The same as lifting a car
Real life strongmen can pull buses. Do you think they could also lift that bus over their head?
>>69056195
no he pushes the bulldozer across the field. no wheels.
>>69056255
Still not the same as holding a car over your head.
>>69056255
so?
1st its not a car
2nd its not lifting just pushing
>>69051416
Mark XLVI looks so boss.
>>69056300
>>69056358
bull dozer weighs 20 tons.
car weighs 1.5
>>69056470
>All those open seams.
DU penetrator would shrek that.
Spider-Man is 10 times stronger than Cap yet in the movie they seemed evenly matched. wtf
In Avengers 1 Thor zapped Tony with lightning from the hammer and powered up the suit to over 400%. Why did they not see fit to do this again when fighting together?
Iron Man 1 is the only movie in the MCU where the suit feels like a piece of hardware that Tony built.
In every movie after that, it feels less like a tool he uses and more like it's just his natural super-power.
>>69056536
Because Thor could just zap enemies directly?
That would be retarded like... I dunno... Iron Man shooting his repulsor beams at Cap who reflects it with his shield to enemies that are standing around. It's an extra step that's totally unnecessary.
>>69056582
It would make sense if they were fighting together and they needed to combine their powers.
Thor charges up iron man, then this readies another bolt and they double team a large enemy.
>>69056582
It would have literally taken away any danger from the last part of the fight in the first Avengers film if Tony was operating at 4x his normal power whilst getting rid of that nuke.
>>69053660
toby with an "i"?
>>69056536
Tony probably didn't tell Thor that the bolt actually powered him up, you know just in case (he needs a Thorbuster suit.)
>>69055985
>A prize fighter will hit you with about half a ton of force with the best executed punch
I won't try to discredit anything you wrote, but do you have any info at hand how punching fares compared to kicking? I know thai boxers kick for an awful lot, I'm just curious how does it hold up when represented by numbers.
>>69050776
Vibranium son.
>>69056892
Its about force applied over an area. The smallest area possible for maximum impact.
>>69056536
>>69056623
>>69056726
No you fucking retards, it fucks up the suits.
>>69056892
We're comparing punching force.
I can knee strike hard enough to break a pelvis, but I can knee strike with a lot more force than I can punch.
>>69055985
/r/TheyDidTheMath
>>69057008
Well, Tony doesn't give a shit about suits.
If he has to destroy a suit to solve a problem, he'll do it without blinking.
>some guy from Russia succeeded in doing what a God and an evil robot man failed to do in the Avengers movie.
Huh.
>>69057052
>Leddit
Fuck off and die.
>>69051075
>he wants a real explaination for comic book shit
Bravo mr autismo
>>69051150
>letting your nephew turn into a beta faggot
Well aren't you a piece of shit
>>69050805
Penetrators don't deflect.
They penetrate or shatter.
>>69055868
>i did like hulk, and I'm the only person I know who does
I did him toin my dreams
>>69055985
I'm sure Cap is at least 2,300 times stronger than a prize fighter if he's really pushing it. He held a helicopter from taking off with his hands. This is capeshit so I'm gonna go with "Cap is stronger than something fired from a tank" to let the battle work.
>>69056473
This.
Not only is it 20 tons, he's also pushing it on a surface that actively stops the bulldozer from sliding as it moves more. As the bulldozer moves more and more, it'll be harder than pushing just 20 tons.
>>69055766
Not canon desu
>>69057361
Well, consider 2,300 times is the minimum amount to even do anything.
It barely scratched the armor and that was with a tipped hardened penetrator.
For the Captain to dent the armor, let alone actually penetrate/tear it, he needs to be massively stronger than just 2,300 times stronger than a peak athlete.
As said before, if he was that strong, he would demolish buildings and he would turn anyone he fought into a pink mist.
>>69057496
it seems like the most obvious in universe answer to this (so ignoring the "writers didn't care" answer for the moment), is that the armour tony was using at the end of CA:CW (XLVI) was lighter than the MK2, which can be explained by the fact the XLVI seemed to be designed for portability and rapid assembly (it was based in his helicopter at the end)
>>69057067
It's not smart to destroy a suit mid fight. It'll make sense if they did that against thanos or something, but against an army of robots and aliens that won't give him breathing room for a replacement to drop in he'd be fucked.
>>69050685
There's a lot of mechanical whines from the suit in Civil War, especially the final fight.
>>69057496
>he would turn anyone he fought into a pink mist
Yes we all know the only way to punch is to use all our strength every single time.
>>69056473
So? Doesnt mean he can lift a car
>>69050359
Ya know, it's just a movie for grow up kids. Just enjoy it.
It fucked up his armor? I thought the only real damage they dealt are when bucky tried to smash his core and cap slamming his shield which is indestructible
>>69058470
Try only using one 2,300th of your available strength, I'd be impossible to fine tune that before you pink mist someone.
>>69053604
Gtfo nigger
Did anyone else realize how stupid the plan of the bad guy was? He was ready in his little bunker showing off that video to Stark. But he needed exactly the three characters to appear at the exactly same time even though he knew they were going to fight before. He couldn't have known that Falcon was going to spill the beans on the location of the facility. And even if he know, Iron Man could have arrived half an hour later and Cap and Bucky would have easily captured him before he had any chance to show Stark the video.
>>69055985
>50 metres
He is WAY higher than 50 meters
At the VERY least he is probably 1000 meters away from the tank. And that's shooting up against gravity
>>69059357
come on is a superhero movie, relax
>>69059357
I think he actually just needs the video. Its just convenient that the 3 got in there at the same time
>>69055557
Spiderman can lift something like 10 tonnes iirc. They can both lift cars but Spidey would murder Cap
>>69059725
>tonnes
Commie confirmed
>>69056532
I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here and attributing it to the fact that Spidey's had his powers for only 6 months at that point.
Also if they stayed true to the comics and scaled their power appropriately, Spiderman would have wiped the floor with everyone present at that airport fight.
>>69050656
>more and more offense
Really? He was shooting missles in the first movie. I only remember him using the repulsers in all the others.
>>69059840
I doubt that he can beat wankda and vishun
>>69059725
Closer to 20 ton
>>69059367
>a WWII era tank destroyer
>able to hit a human sized airborne target travelling at high speed from a kilometer away
He was further than 50m but come on
>>69059914
He's still shooting missels in this one.
I do think that it was more that he worked on making the suit something that could assemble itself, which took away a lot from its usefulness. Old one needed robots to put it on, this one literally can fly to him piece by piece
>>69059925
Forgot about Vision, my bad. Probably since they left him out of most of that fight because of his immense power.
>>69059954
After he's been bitten it's approx. 10 tons, later on he gets some power increase through means I can't remember that increased it to about 25 tons, but it's taken away from him later.
>>69050359
The only time the suit got damaged is if it got hit by Bucky's arm or Cap's shield.
Cap kept punching Tony's head near the end of their fight but can't get through until he used his shield as a can opener.
>>69051150
i watched it with your wifes son
>>69051222
Look mom!!! I posted it again!!!
>>69057049
Dude, do you know krav maga!?!?
>>69051416
Joss Whedon.
>>69053604
We all know you're a white guy who gets off on literally cucking your online persona.
>>69060076
This. Most of the guys here are speed watchers level 2 and muh tank who hits the hardest iron man armor(not portable)
>>69060279
Yeah, shittiest form of martual art. That says alot because martial art is obsolete since chinchongs invented gunpowder
>>69060377
lol, feg
>>69054327
He's not there but he would instinctively be against Stark from what we know of him. Given how protective of his tech he is it's safe to assume he would not want it falling into the hands of the government either.
Real shame that they've cast Douglas as Pym, hopefully he doesn't die anytime soon. Would like a Hank solo movie as well please Marvel.
>>69050656
this
One reason I like the first Iron Man movie so much is that they shot it on film. It gives it a nice gritty and grainy atmosphere that helps it feel real. The newer Marvel movies are shot on digital cameras and the CG has gotten so much worse. Everything feels so shiny and plasticky and I hate it.
>>69055805
I think it goes something like this:
He realised that HE IS the Iron Man. Not his suits. The obsessive building of his suits was a symptom of his PTSD, he didn't need or want that shit.
>>69054355
Because Hollywood has no idea how guns work. We're talking like "the internet is a series of tubes" or "do I need postage for email" levels of misunderstanding.
>>69050359
>direct hit
Op is blind faggot (not Daredevil kind)
>>69059977
Doesn't matter how far or close he was, that shot would have been impossible either way.
Helicopters on average fly much higher than 1000 meters
>>69055633
>inb4 autistic comic
>posting in a literal autistic comic thread
>>69052738
>Follow
It's Obey* anon, get your shit together
>>69053941
after the kiss
the only chuckle it got out of me
>>69050656
what's the point
it doesn't add anything and only makes the suit weaker
>>69060632
this has to be bait right
>>69060279
Funnily enough, yes.
>>69051416
Man the first Iron Man movie was so great, why are all the suits garbage CG now?
>>69050656
>defending shitty power level management this much
Kill yourself
>>69059367
Okay, you're right, I was basing it off how long it took him to fall, but there is definitely a cut in there.
From the frame where he is originally struck, we can see that he is shot rapidly backwards initially, meaning the energy of the shell at the very least cancelled out his energy.
The video shows his speed as being MK 0.16 (approximately 55 metres a second) and we know that Tony Stark and the suit's combined weight is at least 425lbs (192.77Kg), meaning that he was hit with a force greater than 290Kj, which means that a force in the low Megajoule range is still reasonable.
As a reminder, a 290Kj impact is still the equivalent of hundreds of punches from a prize fighter.
From the frame as he is about to hit the ground, we can see he travels roughly 14 times his body length in 24 frames (1 second).
Tony Stark, in his armour, is 6'6" or 1.98m - if we round that up to 2M we can calculate that he is travelling at 28m/s.
Given that he would be accelerating at 9.8m/s we can decipher that he has been falling for at least 3 seconds (not counting hang time as he lost momentum).
Based on this we can calculate that Iron Man was hit at about 44 metres off the ground.
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>>69053604
shut up redwood
>>69067165
A Chieftain tank equipped with an L11A5 main gun has a maximum elevation of 20°; for the tank to hit Iron Man, whilst he is travelling at 44 metres off the ground, we can calculate that the tank hit him from a range of 128 metres.
Based on a 20 degree elevation, we can calculate that the penetrator is losing an extra 2.175m/s velocity in addition to the velocity lost to drag.
Now, luckily we have access to actual army trial data of 120mm canons, granted they are firing different ammo, but a penetrator is still a penetrator and we just need a rough pool of data.
Based on this data we can find that the initial drag force is 548.7N (equivalent to just shy of 56KG) which when we factor in our 12Kg projectile, leaves us with a drag deceleration force of 4.66m/s.
If we combine our deceleration forces we find that our initial combined deceleration rate is 6.842m/s.
Consider that the time between force and target is barely 93 milliseconds and we see only a .63m/s drop in initial velocity.
The projectile will still be hitting with 99.99% of its initial energy.
If Captain America can deliver a force greater than 11Mj, he will pink mist everything he touches.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a224217.pdf
http://marvel.com/characters/29/iron_man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCTPq2QEGc
>>69050359
His suits have progressively been less about defense and instead been about either full on offense or portability.
He went from needing to be home to having a watch gauntlet, and flying individual pieces, etc.
>>69054355
it did, he said his whole arm hurt in the scene right after
>>69067207
Thanks for that. Very informative.
>>69067374
The craziest thing to think about is that Captain America spends every waking second and every millisecond of every interaction delicately holding the balance between shaking someone's hand and vaporising them where they stand.
Imagine it, every interaction he has, it's the same as if you or me were trying to lead a fly by its wing without hurting it.
Plus, the sheer heat energy he would create could probably melt steel.
Imagine involuntary reactions - a sneeze would kill someone, ejaculations would shoot through your partner's body and into the next room.
>>69067513
Come to think of it, given the abilities of his allies and the energy signature being thrown off by the Tesseract, it's insane they didn't find him earlier.
But what if they found him and Peggy had it buried, because she didn't want her cervix shot through her spinal column.
>>69067165
>>69067207
>>69067513
Worst thing about comic book movies : they are letting autistic plebs disquss them.
>>69067757
>Wahhh
I don't like fun.
Dafaq I thought Red Skull was supposed to be in this movie.
Why did it feel so bland and uninspired?
I enjoyed cap 2 but this just made me yawn. I expected a somewhat more serious andgrittytone but nope.
Have I outgrown capekino?
>>69067513
Captain America is somewhere above peak human, but not THAT strong. If he were, then it'd be effortless to keep the helicopter from escaping, his fight with Batroc the Leaper in WS would be over in a second as well as many other times where his strength has been required. Him being able to fuck Iron Man up is more a symptom of what's happening in the narrative than what he can actually do consistently.
Somebody that could be descrived as constantly having to refrain from pink misting people etc would be spiderman.
>>69050776
A shield of vibranium
>>69060039
He mutates further iirc. He also gets poison stings that come out of his wrists or something. Its all gone now tho.
>>69068132
How gritty were you expecting? The movie was more or less serious the whole time except for the airport fight.
>>69065636
>can't tell when someone is being facetious
Check yourself for autism
>>69050359
Yo it's a comic book movie. They play fast and loose with power levels and rules. This isn't hard science fiction.
>>69050790
He absorb all vibrations,autistic idiot. So shield is indestructible.
>>69050359
An he used lots of bullets and could aim at like 4 targets' heads at the same time. I blame Disney.
>>69053470
Didn't tigerprincebro use some in his suit?
>>69070307
DUDE JUST TURN UR BRAIN OFF LMAO XDDD
>>69050359
and ultrons bats which are literally robot iron man suits get torn apart like toilet paper
it's a marvel movie
>>69070650
>It's a Disney movie
Op is OFFICIALY stupid autistic faggot.
>>69050359
Cap punches >>>>>>>> tank shot.
Easy, anon.
>>69053604
Fuck off idiot
>>69050359
>Americans will unironically watch CapeShit
Why did Iron Mans blast blow off buckys arms yet only wind Steve when he was shot in the stomach.
Is it the meme magic of no serious consequences allowed
