Arthur Dayne using a two handed sword is lame autistic fedoras like anime well give Arthur Dayne two swords the autistic fedoras will love it.
why do people hate it. it's cool af.
>>68995929
It's considered impractical and flashy
It's probably a more plausible way of having two guys fight a large group without immediately getting dicked and/or opponents not taking advantage of an exposed flank or back in an immersion-breaking way
>>68995845
Literal Cancer
Duel wielding is fucking retarded
>>68995929
Because it's one thing to forgive the entertainment industry for using historically inaccurate stage fighting when it comes to sword fighting. It's another thing to forgive them for the ludicrous assumption that duel wielding was even a viable tactic used combat. Duel wielding is purely fantasy and laughable. The only historical use of holding two weapons is with a small sword and a dagger in the off hand. Duel wielding two long swords would get you killed very quickly and was never practiced. It would only weaken your ability in both offense and defense.
I thought Arthur Dayne wielded that one crazy fancy sword.
Wasn't he the one called "Sword of the Morning"?
Not "Swords of the Morning".
Im surprised they arent doing huge swords like real anime autistic fedoras love real anime
>outnumbered 3-1
>tries to even his odds by doubling his damage output
>mad bookfags scramble to type DABID as fast as possible
>>68996298
Wasn't the Buster Sword made from a lightweight material?
>>68995845
I don't see how anyone could like this trash over far aesthetically superior single-wielding with a free offhand
Why they are anlmating tower of joy if its not from the current timeline?
>>68996386
Using two swords doesn't double your damage output
>>68996399
All swords are made to be relatively lightweight. 90% of swords would have been less than 6 lbs. I won't criticize a buster sword because it was fucking final fantasy and I'll leave it at that.
>>68996298
>Cersei demands a trial by combat with Robert Strong as her champion
>The Septum choose a hooded grave digger as his
>CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE
>Gravedigger removes his hood
>Guts, fresh off the boat accidentally arrived in KL
>GET HYPE
>>68996511
that's fucking Ice in his offhand after he disarms Ned you fucking autists. Greenseerer dude saves his ass. Watch, next week all these autists will be btfo. screencap this.
>>68996633
Those swords don't look anything like Ice though. Also they appear to be your average bastard sword (hand and a half) in length and not even close to the size of a Two-Handed Great Sword.
autistic fedoras love this stuff, if only he took off his boot and held another sword in his foot.
>>68996633
Nigga what? Ice is way fucking bigger
>>68996758
>>68996842
it's d&d you expect continuity? look at the one hilt it's ice
>>68996758
>>68996890
even if it's not ice dayne only has one scabbard in OP's pic
>>68996113
what about handguns?
>>68996601
>hai yai forces starts playing
typical game of thrones male demographic
>>68996108
No you fucking idiot, a large shield to block is way more effective in an uneven fight especially with a spear. The Spartans perfected this thousands of years ago.
more autistic fedoras
>>68996264
And Dragons are historically accurate? Ice Beings , Giant Spiders , etc.?
>and who
>are you
>complaining about "historical inaccuracy" in a show with dragons time travel cripples
Fucking autistic shits
>>68997500
Wow dont steal my comment mate.
>watching fantasy show with magic and dragons
>calling other viewers autistic because a preview shows someone using two swords
>>68996264
I read that Musashi used two swords.
>>68995929
I can understand if there's an appropriate weapon and technique being used for dual wielding.... That is not what this is... those swords don't work that way... this is the dumbest shit.
>>68996108
>If I have two swords it's like I'm more than one person's worth of fighting
So retarded
Historical longsword technique is dependent on the ability to "bind and wind" with the opponents blade. To do this, you need two hands on the sword to maintain leverage and stability. When two swords "bind" with each other, it does not become a locked push struggle like you see in film. Swords "bind" and then "wind" at different angles by the blades sliding against with each other with leverage rather than locking with each other (this purpose of the cross guard, as it protects your hands from your opponents blade sliding down in a sword bind). Imagine holding a baseball bat with your two hands and you begin to swirl it around in a circle. This is done by shifting the grip of your hands while the bat is in motion. If this was attempted with one hand, there would be no strength for leverage and you would be quickly disarmed and defeated.
>>68996113
and that's why they lose because they never use it
>hurr durr but there's dragons
If he was wielding a giant rubber dildo would you be saying "wow are you really calling a dildo-sword unrealistic and silly in a show with dragons loloolol"
>>68997709
I'm sure he did, but Japanese weaponry is used differently and cannot be compared to European long swords and their technique. Also Japanese swords were shorter in length. Two short blades was used by Europeans, but not long swords.
So I'm supposed to believe that everyone on here that 'knows' how ancient weapons were used aren't autistic?
>>68997970
>wow, you know a thing about stuff? How autistic
It's okay to not know about a subject anon you don't have to get all defensive about it
>>68997970
Historical European Martial Arts have become increasingly popular in recent years and researchers are constantly learning more through studying the manuscripts of Italian and German master swordsmen of the Renaissance. There are many clubs all over the US and Europe who study, practice, and fight each other with blunt steel on a regular basis.
>>68997919
>I'm sure he did
Did you reply to the wrong post, because while I agree with your sentiments, they don't really make sense in response? I was mocking that one idiot.
>>68998436
I suspect he intended to respond to >>68997633 about Musashi.
>>68998436
Wrong person sorry, I meant to reply to >>68997633 who sited the Japanese master swordsmen Musashi.
>>68997919
That's pretty interesting. I didn't realize that Japanese swords were shorter. I guess the European swords always did look a little heftier.
>>68995845
>>68998583
Indeed. I should clarify that there are much larger Japanese blades just like European Scotts and Germans had Cleavers and Great Swords that were much larger than Bastard swords. While I've not studied eastern weaponry much, I do know that the more popular weapons such as the Katana were indeed shorter than their European Long Sword counterpart.
>>68998982
I think the book I read (which, to be fair, was a novel that claimed to vaguely based on the truth), had Musashi with a shorter sword than a katana in his offhand.
>>68999320
Exactly, that was my thought.
>>68999320
That's a wakizashi most likely, they still do that in some kenjutsu schools
>>68997633
he had 2 swords on him at all times but he used one at a time
>>68996298
DUAL WEILD
>>68999506
This Wiki page suggests my book was actually correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niten_Ichi-ry%C5%AB and he did use two swords.
>>68999611
Why are you bringing up balanced 2 handed swords when the guy posted a massive hunk of steel with no thought put into it?
>>68999648
>WHERE'S LYANNA
>SHE'S PART OF THE DARKNESS NOW
It fits
>>68999648
dont hit the camera man
>muh halfswording
>muh murderstroke
>>68995845
>Gee Bill, two swords?
>>68995845
where's this scene from?
>>68999959
Same, I don't remember seeing this
>>69000047
season 6 trailer
season 6 episode 3 promo
>Jaime comments about how he never understands why some Knights carry two swords
>his mentor carried two swords and Jaime never understood why some knights carry two swords because he was never a true knight like Brienne and Dayne
BRAVO D&D
>>69000197
>Jaime comments about how he never understands why some Knights carry two swords
I facepalmed the moment he said that, simply because the extra sword was VERY handy in that exact situation
>>68995929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJBEDxh0RQw
>>69000197
Jaime referred to knights carrying two swords in the context of having a back up, not simultaneous use.
>>68996399
They can make it light weight but it would be wobbly as fuck.
>>68996287
Well now he has a sword of the morning and a sword of the evening and depending the one he kills you with he says "good morning" or "good evening"
>>69000701
LOL
>>68996287
Swords of the Memeing is his show title
>>69000416
I like this guy.
>>68997633
One of them was much shorter than the other.
Could be worse.
>>69000902
what a mary sue
>>68995845
No, giving a shit about different sword styles is autism.
Just watch the fucking show and try not to sperg out when the KNIGHTS fight each other in a FANTASTY world, but they don't use proper technique.
>>69000902
Where is this shit from?
>>68995845
its like when a dorky little kid fights and just swings both his arms really fast
>>69000701
DELET THIS so that you don't give D&D too many ideas.
>>69000701
Maybe he can >>68996764
to get the Sword of the Afternoon
>>69000902
>They fell for the str poise meme build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8akxwI56s
>>69000902
Mastercrafted rock ftw.
>>69000902
yeah, how fucking retarded. there is no historic evidence that flails were ever used in actual battle aside from maybe one singular peasant uprising
>>69001115
seriously fucking delete this
>>69001036
Kingdom of Heaven
>>69001095
>He basically becomes Zoro
>>69001270
why stop there
>>68996633
The preview for next week clearly shows Dayne unsheathing two swords at the same time. You're a gay nigger faggot.
>>69000197
the sword in his left hand is obviously coming out of a sheath but what's he pulling the other one from?
>>69001334
>Cut
>not a MUAAAAAAAHTHAFRENCH thread
dropped
>>69001460
his ass
>>68995845
Is it really too much to ask for to see just a little bit of realism?
I hate hollywood
>>68997970
/tv/ is full of fat weeb LARPers
>>69000902
Yes... knights trained continuously from childhood to be made fools of by an unarmed, unarmoured man... and they spent all that money and wore hot heavy armour that doesn't offer enough protection to stop a small rock or pot shard... obviously
>>69001460
He is literally acting like he is pulling it out of a sheath but there is none. It's quite strange.
>>69000902
The gritty fighting, wrestling, finding weak points in armor with daggers has quite a bit of historical merit when fighting armored opponents. This scene is more realistic than you think.
>>69001703
What is this and is it worth a watch or is it the only cool part of the movie?
>>69001588
Actually, that is how knights would kill an armored opponent, by going for openings in the armor such as the eyes, neck (he went for the throat with the pot shard in that scene), and other weak spots. This is how fights with armored opponents would go down. There is no piercing armor with swords. You have to grapple, wrestle, try to subdue the knight with whatever weapon you have to the point where they can be finished off a knife or dagger.
>>68996633
I wonder what his eggs smell like haha
>>69001853
Ironclad, and it has quite a bit more carnage.
>>68995845
they just want to easily convey to normies that he's badass desu
>>69001588
>unarmed
did you miss the rock he had motherfucker
>>68996633
Ice is a fuckhueg sword mate, also both swords are arming swords, no one could twist a fucking claymore in his hand like that
>>69001151
I enjoyed this, thanks
>>69001540
Weebs like their fantasy magical katanas and shit.
We are talking about European combat here. People who appreciate western culture and history.
>>69000859
get ready for the ultimate fedora btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc
>>68997633
He used a Katana and a wakisashi (a katana dagger) in the same way pretty much how reinissance dueling faggots used a dagger and a sword, using the dagger to parry (although you can still stab and cut), but in the book of the five rings he wrote that he could use two katanas or katana/wakisashi because he has trained to use both hands in combat single handed or something like that and encourages people to only focus on using one sword
>>68996264
Gladiators also used to swords (the demachleri or however the fuck is spelled) but they were two gladius which are short as fuck and also were not common
>>68997633
one is a regular katana, one is a sidearm that's shorter called wakizashi.
he doesn't hold two regular katana like two long swords.
If anything, the fedoras are the autistic anti dual wielding faggots who act like they were recently converted to atheism.
>>69001932
The point is that some arabic nobody took down three highly trained knights when all they had to do was keep him at distance with their swords.
That's not Arthur dayne weilding two swords is it? Tell me they didn't fuck this up
>>69002693
They absolutely nailed it, anon
>>69002693
why the fuck would they call him the swords of the morning if he only had one sword.
>>68995845
>caring about historic sword techniques in a fantasy tv show
>calling others autistic fedora wearers
>>68999611
As a guy who personally knows a swordsmith, this image is true.
>>68996983
you get shit accuracy, better to use one. There was one guy who did it in nam though I think
It was either nam or the doolittle raid I forget
>>69002693
This. Wasn't it the Loras's straight brother who dual wielded swords?
>>69002957
As a guy who personally is a blacksmith I can second this
>>69000416
Just about to link this video. I like you.
>>68996264
I'm a little upset at least two of the three gave you credit enough to respond with credible evidence to support the use of two swords in combat.
Because not once in your post did you give anything other than opinion but proceeded to just ramble off on what YOU thought was practical for sword fighting whilst proclaiming expert in the subject.
SHAME!
>>68995845
The greatest swordsman in history was a dual weilder. Any weeboo faggot can tell you that.
>>69000197
>clearly only has 1 sword buckled to his belt
>second sword isn't even sheathed
>implying Dayne didn't just pick up the second sword at random because in a small skirmish like that it's useful to have an off-hand weapon,
>>68998974
just give him the inquisitor heli-lightsaber already
>>69002855
>why the fuck would they call him the swords
>swords
b8?
I always got the feeling that Ed Starch only used Ice for cerimonial purposes. It seemed to be an after thought when he was in Kings Landing in A Game of Thrones.
Also kinda glad to see them using shields in GoT. I never got why DABID forgot they exist in earlier seasons
>>69003095
Except he used one large sword in is main hand and a smaller one in his off hand, just like a style of European sword fighting that was somewhat viable for dueling but not for warfare.
>>68999506
You're just wrong. His Book of Five Rings repeatedly references him using two swords in duels.
>>69003245
Agreed.
>>69003255
Did he have over 300 confirmed kills with it as well?
Maybe I just don't pay that much attention, but I really don't think I've ever seen a more try-hard group of fuck stains nitpick the most trivial asinine shit from a medieval feudal fantasy show based on some 4000+ pages of material
>>69003245
>Except he used one large sword in is main hand and a smaller one in his off hand, just like a style of European sword fighting that was somewhat viable for dueling but not for warfare.
>somewhat viable
It was perfectly viable, don't try playing it down just because it runs counter to your argument
>Except he used one large sword in is main hand and a smaller one in his off hand
Musashi makes reference to using two long swords. Two swords was also used in European schools as well. Although it's used differently, a second sword is perfectly fine
> for dueling but not for warfare
this is true. But they aren't in a battle. It's a skirmish that consists of 3 guys vs 7. In a situation like that, having a second weapon to threaten and guard against a secondary opponents attacks could prove highly useful. Obviously would have been better with a shield, but perhaps there wasn't one available.
weebs fuck off
>>69003386
>this is true. But they aren't in a battle. It's a skirmish that consists of 3 guys vs 7. In a situation like that, having a second weapon to threaten and guard against a secondary opponents attacks could prove highly useful. Obviously would have been better with a shield, but perhaps there wasn't one available.
In the Musashi book I read, he specifically comes up with the multi-sword technique when he has to kill a bunch of dudes on his own.
>>68996633
HAHAHAHA OH SWEET SUMMER CHILD
https://youtu.be/0WSq4_oPzzk?t=76
DAYNE? HAS BEEN A DUAL WIELDING FAGGOT SINCE S4
>>68995845
When was this scene even
>>68995968
It's a tv show that meant to entertain people, not educate them on the standard practices and etiquette of sword wielding.
Jesus Christ, you people.
>>69003505
1st or 2nd trailer.
>>68996399
no, final fantasy was made to be cartoony as fuck
>>69002664
You havent even seen the movie you fuck, the protagonist is French and the son and heir of a nobleman.
>>69003088
Those two people who replied with examples of duel wielding were not examples of duel wielding with Long swords. They were correct, in their examples, but those are completely different weapons. My argument was only referring to long sword. What I said was not false, though I could have worded it better I suppose, so let me rephrase.
There is no historical evidence of duel weilding long swords in battle. There is historical evidence of duel wielding smaller weapons in different circumstances (rapier and dagger would be the most common example). I'm by no means an expert. The experts have been dead for centuries.
>>68995929
>its cool af
Literal man-child detected, kys.
>>68996113
What is a dimachaerus?
>>69000290
also jamie regular fights with a longsword in one hand and long dagger in the other in the show
he even kills neds captain of the guard with it in s1
>>69003583
omg please shut the fuck up
>>69001375
We are reaching new levels.
Ned Stark won't stand a chance.
>>69003583
I'm dual wielding two longswords in dark soul 2 and 3 on 2 different characters, I do pretty well in pvp.
>>69003323
So much this. It's embarrassing.
>>69003555
I'm more entertained watching realistic and authentic combat than floaty illogical impractical combat
>>69003822
There are dragons, undead shit, giants, and fireball throwing little girls in the show
so, like...
why are you here?
>>69003323
>>69003822
Then why are you watching got?
>>69003716
Why? Do you not like the idea of historical weapons being used correctly? Or do you want a tv show that is heavily inspired by a historical time period to showcase combat incorrectly in video game fashion?
>>69003323
even the normies are hating this shit now, it fell off the cliff and everyone knows it
Gurm was the only person involved with the show who cared about actual medieval history. Really it's what seperates his asoiaf universe from other generic fantasy.
Now its just a bunch of young showrunners who wouldn't know the difference between a trebuchet and a mangonel.
>>69003923
It is a fantasy show to an extent, after all....
If I wanted to watch something at least somewhat realistic I'd watch Braveheart or Jon of Arc you daft zit.
>>69003880
>elements of fiction mean all historicity should be removed from the show
I always wonder if people who say this are just trying to be argumentative or are really that stupid.
>>69000197
which one is howland reed?
>>69003967
the most popular thing to do on the internet/social media is to hate something. doesn't mean much
>>69003998
oh fuck off. George had shit like people cutting through steel plate with ordinary longswords.
>>69004021
No, I mean if he was sword fighting with his mind I'd get your argument.
But I mean, there are times when I think I take the show way too seriously, and then I read posts like yours and can calmly remind myself that I'm still somewhat in touch with reality.
![135638786172231[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wPQ9Roc.png "135638786172231[1].png")
why is Ned so fucking smug in that flashback? How can you ruin such a simple line D&D???????????????
>>69004043
the same internet/social media that loved the show for 4 seasons?
>>69004021
Not only that, but there are chock full of other historical references throughout the entire show/books to appreciate, and you're zeroing in on the logic behind whether dual wielding swords makes sense or not.
Who's being stupid?
Anyone else extreamly curious how Howland survives the battle (Doesn't he actually save the day too?) I'm pretty excited regardless of the stupid shit you guys are arguing about.
>>69004067
maybe in AGOT before the world was clearly established.
after that only magic valyrian steel and other blades cuts through metal. all the fights between 2 people in armor later on in the books properly depicts people using hammers and maces for bludgeoning and sword fights devolving into wrestling matches or someone landing a hit on a joint or weak point with a sword.
>>69004078
>I care less than you so i win the argument
>>69004170
he casts blind, curse, and poison on arthur dayne
>>69004195
read this
>>69004156
>>69004175
and shit like Oberyn poll vaulting against the Mountain. GRRM has never been that great with it.
Honestly, Season 1 had far far better attention to historic fencing than anything in the books (including fixing the Eyrie fight), but they got rid of William Hobb after one season so that was the end of that
>>69003880
>>69003917
>>69004010
The show is based on reality more than the fantasy elements. Passing things off as being fantasy is a terrible argument when the subject is not on the fantasy elements, but the historical elements. Also, when GoT pays so much attention to detail with the budget that they have, it's silly that they would not strive to do better. People who say things like "oh its just a movie" as an argument against any insightful criticism are lazy, dull minded, idiots.
>>69004128
yes. the culture of bitching and crying about everything is recent
>>69004232
>>69004156
How does this line of logic even make sense?
Other things are done right so you can ignore the stuff that isn't? Combat is a pretty important part of the show, and it wouldn't be the first time they've dropped the ball. In fact, it's probably one of their weakest elements/
>>69004295
youre a fucking idiot if you think this has any importance what so ever; how do you enjoy life thinking like this lmao
>>69003580
Sticking to your guns only proves you know nothing about actual armed conflict. I don't care if you're son of fucking Rambo, if you're an unarmed dude with nothing going for you and you're fighting three trained knights, you're up shit creek.
>>69004295
And anyone that is glossing over the plethora of other historical references, situations, scenarios, political intrigue, major philosophical figureheads represented via characters, to focus on whether or not one short flash clip, of one scene, from an episode not aired yet, is accurately depicting dual wielding swords in a fight makes sense or not, is an anal-retentive dick cyst with aspergers
>>69004307
it's the first thing people did on the internet
the second thing was people complaining about complaining
>>68999611
yes now lets see the guy in the bottom attack like the video game see if that thing doesn't weight anything :^)
>>69004313
How do you know if it was done right or not? And I'm not trying to use it as my main point of argument, I'm just wondering what the hell your deal is with it?
And no, books, nor show, have combat as a major focus.
Mortal Kombat has more fight scenes than any one season or book from asoiaf.
Now you're just trying too hard.
>>68995845
>he's so weak he can barely handle one sword
Ah ye olde manlets, whenever shall they learn
>>69004500
>show doesnt have combat as a major focus
Dude youre talking out of your ass if you cant even admit that fighting is a prominent part of the show. It's even a major part of Jaime's character for fuck's sake.
>muh military history
Large-scale medieval wars aren't the be-all end-all of European martial arts. Dual wielding was effective in duels in given the context of the fight shown in the preview, it fits.
>>69004736
Out of EEEEEEEEEVERYTHING else going on in the show, no, I'm not willing to admit it. Because I don't choose to ignore everything else going on in the show, OR the books, just to make some dumbass post about how ridiculous dual wielding swords looks in some random ass 5 man brawl in a 2 second flash back clip.
Fighting and battles are discussed a lot in the books, there are fights that happen every so often in the show, but even out of season 2 and 3, no, Jamie's main shit was his character development, not the fighting itself.
>>69004795
>there are fights that happen every so often in the show, but even out of season 2 and 3, no
Dude you're delusional.
The climactic episode of season 2 was a fucking battle, and probably where a disproportionate amount of their budget went.
>Jamie's main shit was his character development, not the fighting itself.
Being a skilled fighter was a significant part of Jaime's character, who's one of the main characters at this point. Losing his hand and losing that skill is a big part of his arc. If you choose to make something a part of someone's character, it behooves you to portray it properly.
Like if you make a show about a chef and he cant even fuckin dice vegetables or something.
>>69003088
Are you actually retarded? Anything you can do with two swors you can do better with just one sword and maybe a shield. Go try it for yourself, faggot.
>>69004959
>The climactic episode of season 2
Not the whole season though, which was the point I was trying to make....
>Being a skilled fighter was a significant part of Jaime's character, who's one of the main characters at this point. Losing his hand and losing that skill is a big part of his arc. If you choose to make something a part of someone's character, it behooves you to portray it properly.
Again, a discussion, and/or development about fighting, but that really isn't the main point of his character development. It's his want and desire to accomplish something worthy of his name to be written down in the books of all the great knights of the kingsguard. He wants to be famous and remembered.
Dude, just shut the fuck up already. My god...
>>69004959
Jaime isn't shown kicking much ass in the books either, many bookfags think he's a typical tourney knight actually
>>68996108
>what is a shield
>>69003822
Then you have an even bigger fedora than someone who likes anime dual sword wielding
>>68996264
> Duel wielding is purely fantasy
...Game of Thrones IS A FANTASY SERIES. You sperg.
>>69000902
Nice helm on the first guy.
But I don't like how they didn't use their supperior numbers, strength or armor to gain an advantage though. Even if they never sparred in their life someone should have sat down with them to tell them that you should try to win a fight.
>>69004986
Not retarded, I just don't go off the cuff and boast opinion as fact with no evidence to support my claim like dickballs over here and his boner for proper and correct/accurate swordfighting representation in a god damn TV show.
>>69005034
>waaaah stop disagreeing with me
You can stop responding anytime then you triggered fuckin baby.
>>69005038
fucking thank you.
>>69005106
Hey, if you want to continue looking completely fucking retarded and smear your dickcheese about swords all over the screen, be my guest.
>>69005038
Jaime was one of the greatest swordsman to exist in the series, next to Barristan and Arthur Dayne. A huge portion of his character was 'what am I without my sword hand?'
>>69002664
What? That was Balian of Ibelin! He's a major historical figure!
>>69001853
James Purefoy is the main character, it's a historically inaccurate history piece about some badasses being badasses.
>>69005154
lol I dont give a fuck about the swords, I'm not the other anon talking about it. All I said was fightings a big part of the show which your dumb fucking ass can't even admit because you like playing devil's advocate for a show thats going to shit.
>smear your dickcheese about swords all over the screen
What the fuck does this even mean? sounds like something some tumblr landwhale thinks is clever and scathing
>>69005159
Ok, just to put this into perspective for you
and just for the sake of argument.
A former olympic sprinter, that has no legs due to wtf ever, spending a majority of his storyline complaining about what he is to the world now that he has no legs, is not a story that deals or shows a lot of running, itself, but the development of the character in relation to running and the use of his legs.
There. Is. A. Fine. Line. You. Twat.
>>69005045
yes, but not that fighters are imbued with magic, faggot
>>69005326
Fighting is a big part of the show?....hmm...
You can see where I got you and the other asshat mixed up then.
>>69005368
Christ you are so fucking stupid that everything has to be spelled out for you doesn't it?
That retarded ass analogy doesn't even apply because the story doesn't start off with Jaime having lost his hand, he loses it somewhere in between. After he loses it, he even tries to regain some skill with it using his non dominant hand? Are you going to tell me that if the runner tries to run again with prosthetics that running has nothing to do with the movie?
>>69004764
Please name me one duel where a guy weilded two long swords, and not a rapier and a dagger. Honestly, I don't care about duel weilding in the show. The character in the show is supposed to be meme-levels of good, so it's fine if he has two swords, but people saying that it's actually effective in combat are dumb.
>>69005507
Just saying combat isn't at the forefront of the show.
It's the fucking political intrigue.
How did it go from some jackass griping about how inaccurate he thought two swords was to now you saying, in spite of everything else going on, combat is a huge part of the show.
Where? Outside of Jamie's fight with Brienne, Sandor vs Brienne, and the major battles saved for the end of each season, how THOSE incidences overshadow all the character development, shuffling of characters from one place to another, plotting, dialogue, the on going blah blah blah blah blah shit.
There, i've reached your level of intellect, you get my drift yet bro?
>>68996386
>damage output
Like he was trying to do more damage per second? Like reduce their hit points faster?
Find a rope and a rafter. Figure out the rest if you can.
>>69005507
For every 5 minutes of actual fighting, I can easily give you at least 30-35 minutes of collected scenes without it.
I should know, I've watched every episode minus the ones from season five as something to fall asleep to at least 3-4 times each.
And then there were the books....
>>69003555
>hurr y do u care about realism in a fantasy seres????
Because certain aspects of realism are part of what makes a piece of fiction good or bad. It's a fantasy series but there's still fucking gravity, and people still have to breath air. Those aspects of reality are in the series because it's considered beneficial to the show as a whole.
I can't comment on this specific example because I don't watch Game of Thrones, but at least be smart enough to understand that not everything in a fantasy series can be completely stupid and unbelievable without the work suffering from it. That's practically the whole reason why people hated the Star Wars prequels.
>>69005711
Not the guy you're commenting, but holy fucking shit.
For the last time.
Martin has repeatedly, in interviews, and other venues, said that the main setting was feudal medieval europe. Not a fucking sword fighting dojo.
The concentration is not on fucking swords lol jesus fuck me in the ass christ
>>69005772
the behavior, the bad guys win sometimes, what would they do in this situation, yadyadyada, the psychology behind that time period.
Not, if the weight distribution in this sword is slightly off putting to the variant degree of the left edge in the right hand weapon then the dual wielding apparatus of the combat at this terrain would result in hur dur i'm gay i'm gay i'm gay
>>69005711
And gravity and air are added in the series because it's fucking relevant since it's a universal form of physics, not because it's simply beneficial to the show as a whole.
And some of those swords are made out of valyrian steel. What the fuck is valyrian steel?
The only thing we can compare that to is how the japanese used to make their swords with the whole folding the metal over a bunch of times.
But what makes valyrian steel so valyrianly special? Maybe it doesn't weigh shit?
Maybe, just maybe, those two swords in that split second flashback scene are made of valyrian steel. We don't know yet because the fucking shit you're complaining about hasn't even aired yet.
>>69005772
It doesn't fucking matter what Martin says the concentration is on. Just because it's not the biggest part of the series doesn't mean it can be completely discounted, especially since there are tons of ways it can affect the overall story. The farther away from realism the battles get the less impact they have as you're watching them or reading about them. I'd say that's a huge fucking problem if you're making a story where people die in battle.
>>69006002
>And gravity and air are added in the series because it's fucking relevant since it's a universal form of physics, not because it's simply beneficial to the show as a whole.
No it's added because it's beneficial to the show. If the argument is that you don't have to have any realism in a fantasy show about dragons and magic then you don't necessarily need to have gravity or breathing either.
Basically the argument about historical sword fighting is deeper than just GoT. It's something that hollywood could adapt in general, but never is practiced because stage fighting has an industry of experts already entrenched in entertainment. Medieval martial arts was very poorly preserved in European history was we became industrialized and advanced in technology. Asian cultural has literally BTFOed Europe on that kind of preservation. Therefore, we have a culture that basis swordfighting all off of modern art out of ignorance of the forgotten techniques. It wasn't until recent years where people have been able to heavily research and share the information we do have from the renaissance manuscripts. A lot of people have been educated on how swords were used now, so they want to see that knowledge translated to the modern medium. People are just frustrated that TV and Film don't attempt to seek out the modern HEMA scholars when they already invest so much into working on the industry's inaccurate stage fighting.
>>69006002
Valyrian steel is a nod towards Demascus steel, which was a very high quality type of steel in the middle ages.
>>69001932
>There is no piercing armor with swords
>>68999648
DUO WELD
JEWEL WILD
Dawn will not be strapped across his back like in the books. He already has it out and is twirling it around......for some reason.
https://youtu.be/eCHPLMGclaY?t=22
>>68995929
Because it's fucking stupid.
>it's cool af
I'll guess you'll grow out of anime when you turn 16.
>>69000416
Based comfy Britbong.
>>69008048
>no japanese bird cooking spaghetti
You fucked up.
>>68996113
>implying pirates didn't dual wield a sword/pistol combo
>>69003007
As a guy who just wants to post something, I agree.
>>69008185
I'm still in a dream Snake Eater.
>>69008314
>>69000416
History is interesting and important and all, but why would you get triggered to have something inconvenient in fucking fantasy tv show?
>>69008386
>It's fantasy therefore nothing matters argument
>>69003822
the show isnt aimed at autistic people who get mad at "impractical sword fighting", its aimed at regular people who watch it for entertainment not historical accuracy
>>69008386
because a good fantasy has plausible real world elements to it as well
>>69006002
>The only thing we can compare that to is how the japanese used to make their swords with the whole folding the metal over a bunch of times.
>He fell for the "folded 6 mirrion times and can cut through many planets with much honor" meme
Japanese swords were pretty shit compared to European standards
>>69008624
It's fantasy, so by definition it doesn't need to be historically accurate, nor does its styles of combat. Not it doesn't matter.
>>69008748
This, Long swords decimate katanas
>it's okay when khal drogo does it
>>69006002
It's just pattern welded steel with some magic shit in it
>>69008748
>>69008769
Europe BTFOs all because master race
>>68996113
it is not military history anyways. it is a duel
>>69008758
Not true, Medieval fantasy is a genre that specifically uses medieval history.
>>69008831
>superior plate armor
>superior Weapons
>Colonies
What more can you ask for
>>69004010
>If I wanted to watch something at least somewhat realistic I'd watch Braveheart
>>69008676
And dual wielding swords breaks your immersion more than Chilly Zombies and Dragons and Woodland Faeries?
>>69008888
Quads of truth
>>69008884
Good thing GoT isn't that subgenre then.
>>69008916
And resurrections.
And Hag to Hot bracelets.
>>69008947
>GoT not a medieval fantasy
Are you high? Asoiaf is medeval fantasy just like works of tolkien and C.S. Lewis.
>>69009026
And women in positions of power.>>69009052
>>69009052
>Are you high?
No, but they all are.
High Fantasy.
>>69008916
yes, those things existing don't change the fact that dual wielding two long swords is unwieldy, impractical and doesn't offer any kind of advantage. we know this in the real world. a fantasy should reflect things like this to draw people in and make the fantasy more believable. like i said, a good fantasy takes inspiration from the real world as well as the imagination
>>69008185
Dual wielding in fiction refers to using two equally large weapons.
Using a rapier and a dagger isnt considered dual wielding.
using a sword and a buckler isnt considered dual wielding.
Using an axe and a shield isnt considered dual wielding.
Using a saber and pistol isnt considered dual wielding.
Sometimes even using weapons of the same size isnt considered dual wielding, such as using two identical boxing gloves, or your two fists.
>>69009176
>unwieldy
Lighter construction
>impractical / no advantage
What is a feint?
>>69009176
>I don't like it, so it's bad
It's also a show, a visual medium. It looks cool.
>>69009263
you're exactly the kind of person this show appeals to. congratulations, enjoy your show
>>69009320
The argument being made is that it doesnt look cool to anyone who knows better.
>>69000902
Literally nothing wrong with that scene.
>>69009357
So? On measure more folk who know it's stupid won't care. Why do you?
>>69009356
So you have no rebuttal, ok.
