>Captain America movie
>Iron Man is basically the main character
>RDJ makes more for it than about everyone combined
I'm not a Marvel-hater, but is anyone else getting tired of everything revolving around Iron Man?
does anyone remember when this "iron man" sold weapons of mass destruction being the CEO of a massive weapons manufacturer mainly used to kill arabs?
or is this just forgotten because he's not tony stark anymore but "ironman."
>>68982618
>tired?
Iron Man was the villain, of course he's gonna have screen time.
The moie still revolved around Cap's gay lust for Bucky.
>>68982618
I thought both had equal importance. I'm still sad because we could have got another GOAT cap sequel instead of Avengers 2.
>>68983267
>Iron Man was the villain
He was the antagonist, not the villain.
Why does cap wear the mask?
>>68982732
They mentioned it on AoU, he gave weapons and bombs to Andy Serkis.
>>68983384
Its a sex thing
>>68983384
because it looks badass
>>68983267
>>68983364
>Villain
>Antagonist
To me, Captain America was the villain in his own movie.
>>68983442
>>68983364
Cap just wanted to do his missions alone because after TWS he thought the gov would be a pain in the ass.
The only villain here was Crossbones.
>>68982732
>>68982732
They mention it in this movie too. Tony's response to Steve's concern about agenda change in politics is that he changed his agenda when he decided to shut down his weapons manufacturing arm.
>>68983442
I feel the same. I was with Cap in it, but the narrative left me feeling like I wasn't supposed to be. I wasn't even left with the impression that neither side was 100% right.
anyone have a free link to the film ?
>HURR BUCKY CAN'T BE HELD TO ACCOUNT BECAUSE HE WAS UNDER THE INFLUENCE WHEN HE MURDERED PEOPLE DURR
Seriously Captain?!
When people drink-and-drive and kill people, they have to face the law of the land. Nobody is above the law and that includes people who have spent multiple lifetimes mass-murdering people.
Refusing the governments of the world ability to try Bucky just because he's your friend is ironically the same corruption that this moron pontificates about.
>>68983794
Mind control is kind of different tbqh smdh
>>68983794
No shit.
Goddamn capekiddies are so stupid.
>>68982618
hes the most expensive one so yes, they are going to make him the center, they did the same with xmen wolverine and now with the new xmen and jlaw.
>>68983794
People choose to drink and drive. People don't choose to be brainwashed soviet soldiers.
>>68983794
>drunk driving is the same as having been brainwashed against your will
>>68984013
That doesn't make it any less off-putting. They should have just called it IM4 or Avengers 3.
He was so fuckin' annoyin'
>>68983794
dumbest argument ever. He's not going to let his friend die for something he didn't do.
>>68984886
Yeah, why is this so hard for people to grasp.
>>68982618
they have to keep inserting RDJ in every movie since he single handedly revive the MCU
>/tv/ told me that it's better than Batman vs Superman
>It wasn't
Why did you lie to me?
>>68984933
They're Ironman fags trying to rationalize his asshole behavior.
>>68984944
Cap 1, 2, Thor, GotG all did pretty well without him.
>>68984045
Underrated post
>>68985051
We assume people have a sense of morality and can sense right from wrong, good from garbage.
>>68985062
Cap 3: Vivil War 1 is basically Avengers 3 so ofcourse they are going to give Tony (the most popular Avenger) a big part
>Ant man: Hank Pynn told me to never trust a Stark!
>Iron Man: Who are you?
Wow what a fucking dick.
>>68986310
>Captain America 3 is basically Avengers 3
It's really only Avengers 3 because the made Stark the main character.
They should just call everything Ironman from now on.
Who'll be the villain of the Spiderman movie?
People are gonna watch it no matter watch, so they should pick a more obscure guy, like the Spot. He's cool as fuck.
>>68986529
is called smart business decisions and cohesive cinematic universe, they build to the fight in Civil War and is also because RDJ refused to do Iron Man 4 unless Mel Gibson directs it
>>68983979
Yet you entered willingly into a superhero thread to complain about superhero fans.
Very smart.
Can we all agree Ant Man was the best in this film?
>willing to risk experimental giant mode to create diversion, knowing it would lead to his own capture
>making the best use of his power set
>genuinely funny and all round good guy
The only negative I can see is he didn't control any ants, though I struggle to see how they would have made any difference.
>>68983267
>Iron Man was the villain
He was the victim, the real villainwas Zemo and Bucky to some extent
>>68987610
There were no villains, just good guys that are growing tired of fighting.
>>68983707
Search in kat, there is already 2-3 different versions, but all shitty and in mexican
>>68987643
How in any way was Zemo a good guy?
>>68987763
Oh no, i'm talking about the Avengers.
>Tony Stark completely broken at the end of Civil War
>goes to the only other person in the world besides Rhodes who's still somewhat excited to see him in Spider-Man: Homecoming
FUCK, being Tony is suffering.
>>68987643
>Zemo
>not villainHe blew buildings, killed many people, infiltrated UN, framed Bucky, and basically did what Ultron couldn't separate the Avengers and put them against each other.He is the most competent villain so far.
>>68983438
Is that how they pronounce gay in your neck of the woods?
The suit and shield are great, but that mask gets lamer in every installment
>>68987833
He'll tap DAT MILF ass, so not everything is gloom and dark
>>68982618
Don't worry he'll be gone after infinity war for the whole of phase 4 before returning for a single big movie in phase 5.
copy this post down and stick it on your cork board
>>68988117>implying Norman Osborn won't be banging her by Spider-Man: Homecoming
>>68983442
from my point of view the avengers are evil
>>68988204
Iron Man 4 will be about Tony becoming Secretary of State/Defense.
Tony is going to succeed Ross, when he becomesRed Hulk and establishes the Thunderbolts
>>68986736
carnage please
but i'm boycotting the new spiderman because it contains 'zendaya'
>>68987423
>it's your conscience
sniggered
>>68983794
When people drink and rive, they chose to drink and drive. Your analogy would work if it was about someone being drugged then forced to drive under the influence.
More like Homecumming.
CA3 was a better Avengers movie than Ultron, so I don't mind the IM here. I actually only watched IM1, because Tony is so tiring.
>>68988795
To me, IM is the least interesting Avenger, so seeing him taking precedence over the others in their own movies pisses me off. Just call the whole MCU Avengers and be done with it.
>>68988358
>Carnage
90s please go, and stay go.
Mysterio would be pretty dope.
winter soldier is the best marvel film
first avenger was fine
Winter Solider was fine
HEY LETS MAKE AVENGERS!!!!!
FUCK YOU I WANTED A CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE
>>68982618
>but is anyone else getting tired of everything revolving around Iron Man?
Yeah, but I really enjoyed the movie. I do think Tony needs to die, having Thanos kill him would be a great way to make Thanos feel like a real threat.
>>68983794
Unless some nazis forced you to drink then drive by holding your family hostage or some shit like that, your analogy is fucking stupid.
>>68989679
>I do think Tony needs to die
Tony dying would be a pretty unsatisfactory and illogical end for his character arc, and Thanos can be made to seem like real threat without killing either Tony nor Cap.
Hint: Vision is currently in possession of one of the Infinity Stones, and is in the top 3 of the strongest Avengers.
>>68989679
>killing their most profitable character
Marvel is not looking to destroy their franchise. That's a DC move.
>>68989961
>Tony dying would be a pretty unsatisfactory and illogical end for his character arc
oh right, I guess a 60 year old RDJ playing 35 year old Tony Stark asspulling some dumb machine to contain Thanos' power is better.
>>68990072
They're all potentially profitable characters. It's kinda short-sighted to hamstring the other potential money-makers just for RDJ and his big-ass paycheck.
Cramming IM into everything at the hindrance of the whole for quick bucks is a DC move.
Iron Man isn't the main character dumbass, if anything, The Winter Soldier is, but they can hardly call it "The Winter Soldier: Civil War" can they? They need to get that casual audience in somehow
>>68986736
I heard the fella who plays Kingpin in Daredevil was making a play to reprise his role in Spider-Man, would love to see it happen even if he would be toned down
>>68990509
RDJ and IM1 is the reason they're as successful as they are. They will keep giving him a paycheck until he wants out.
>>68990723
The only good Kingpin was Michael Clarke Duncan and he's dead.
>>68986529
Have you even seen the movie? Cap is clearly the main character and he's proven right throught the whole thing.
>>68991941
>in hiding
>proven right
>>68987763
Zemo is pretty much The Boys from Ennis. The people he really wants to kill are superheroes. And the best way to do so, is to get them to fuck each other up.
>>68987909
He's probably the most interesting MCU villain atm. He's even better than Loki.
>>68982618
Technically is an Avengers movie. Its the most Avengers movie in the MCU. Hell, despite the fact they adapted some scenes from Civil War into the movie, the movie should really be called:
Avengers: Disassembled
or Avengers Schism: Divided we fall
Cap has, quite interestingly, become a lot more like Tony in the MCU. And by that, I mean the fatc that he has kept a secret, and considers himself above the law to some extent.I can actually see MCU Cap as being a aprt of the Illuminati
>>68992940
I don't think Cap sees himself as above the law, he just doesn't trust those enforcing the law.
>>68983794
Lets say I kidnap you, drug you against your will, and force you to drive a car. Who's in the wrong?
Tick tock motherfucker.
>>68994453
To be fair to that anon, fiction frequently does expect you to see it has the character's fault no matter what.
Fucking Whedon was notorious for it. It doesn't surprise me that the Russo's are the same. It's just cheap writing, desu. They want all the angst but none of the actual fallout.
>>68993423
Which makes him above the law, or at least equal to the law, even if he doesn't realize it.
Thats the thing I like about MCU Cap. He's more of a thinking Cap.
>>68987423
After all the fuss about him going straight, I felt they understated the effect him getting locked up again would have on him. He didnt seem to give a shit he might never see his child again, it was all jokes, and even Antman wasn't like that
>>68989961
>Tony dying would be a pretty unsatisfactory and illogical end for his character arc
But everyones character arc ends in them dying, eventually
>>68984582
Second.
>>68982618
He's by far the best actor in the entire MCU. That's why he gets paid more. MCU probably paid Captain the same (probably not) out of respect with his own movie.
>>68986522
>who are you?
>the new guy besides spiderman
ironman cant into 2+2=antman
>>68983267
>>68983364
>>68983442
>>68983517
The UN was the real victim. There should of been a "Hail Hydra" whisper at the end between the Secretary of State and Martin Freeman.
>>68995742
Real Villain*. Fuck me I need to sleep.
>>68989679
Dude, i thought about it... You're so fucking right...
since spiderman was into tony's team, he registered, so next spiderman movie everyone will know he is peter parker, right? or are they just hack writers
>>68995840
They didn't register this time around. Tony basically just said his people would do what the UN told them to.
>>68992940
>Technically is an Avengers movie
I think you mean practically, son
>>68983794
murder is not a strict liability felony.
>>68988117
>Peter, did you get any good licks?
Iron Man did literally nothing wrong
I entered the theater saying that I was team Iron Man and got mocked by my friends
I never trust a good two shoes like Cap, they always get too deep into their morals and fuck up everything
>>68982618
What the fuck was with Vision saying that Iron Man was the first of them and that's why this has all happened DURING A CAPTAIN AMERICA FILM!!
>>68996205
In this case Cap got too deep into his friendship
>>68996268
he also got too deep into his morals and ignored the facts.
Even fucking Bucky said he deserved it and then he went frozen by the pos credits, he should have died
>>68996358
>he also got too deep into his morals
there were hardly any moral argument in the movie save for Spiderman's
>ctrl+f
>www nope
> dot
full English/Aussie rip happen yet?
what's steve 's fate by the end of the movie? did they go the comic route?
>>68988292
lel
>>68996504
no
he won
and basially made his own avengers
>>68996574
that's the only reason i thought they included crossbones in it. thanks, anon.
>>68992490
>The government is always right.
Did you even watch the movie?
>>68982618
I think it's more weird that keep having Iron Man without his helmet on the posters. But I guess they have to show off Robert Downey Jr. somehow.
>>68982618
>>RDJ makes more for it than about everyone combined
How much was everyone paid?
>>68996504
No, he's on the run, plus he'll probably drop the ''Captain America'' identity.
Maybe even become Nomad without the gay as fuck suit.
>>68986736
Fucking Vulture's going to be the villain. Played by my boy Malkovich.
>AAARGHHH TONY help! they made me look like a dick in my own movie
>aarhgjjjhh TONY they put my name on Ironman 4
>>68995840
Spider-Man is not an Avenger. Tony asked him, paid him, bribed him whatever to help him fight, and then Peter went home. That's it.
>>68996787
We dont have exact numbers for CW yet, but reports say he RDJ got the same as he did for Avengers 2 (40 mil to Steves 7). And he's getting half the actors budget in the next 2 Avengers, fucking 200 million
>>68986736
stupid bird vulture... terrible but malcovic could save it though.
we could have mysterio, craven, scorpion, proper venom or something but we got a bird...
Am i the only one mad at the post-credit scene? While some might have seen it coming it was just really annoying to go through all of that to just have him frozen again. I really enjoyed the movie though.
Who the fuck gives a shit about RDJ? Iron-Man movies are not even good.
>>68996955
he is a big part in the civil war comic books. he comes around even to help with Onslaught.
>>68997073
>comics
NOBODY CARES
>>68997010
It was some nice non contrived tragedy, they didnt solve shit about the mind control
>>68996971
How the hell did his agent ever manage that?
>>68996358
loose arm. still went to freezer.
it was a bit tpo much. they should built hom a norway style cell.
>>68995840
No, the MCU SRA is not about identities, even though Stark knows he is Peter Parker.
He'll, Tony broadcasted to the entire world that he is Iron Man.
>>68997114
RDJ is the only one worth seeing these movies for.
>>68997114
After Iron Man 1, he renegotiated for pretty tasty profit sharing deals. And they need him, it can't be overstated how much the normies love Iron Man, and they couldn't get away with recasting, so as each movie makes more and more they give him whatever he asks for.
how could zemo knew government would come with a registration act?
why didnt zemo just told tony bucky killed his parents?
why tony had anti antman tecnology in his suit?
if a van expldoes across the street, how a room several floors up got exploded too?
how can bucky and cap fall from 4 storey height and not fucking their legs?
since antman physics logic is bullshit ill not ask about antman physics
why did falcon rushed to warmachine when je was fucked by vision?
isnt tony fucked if the arc reactor is not working? how is he still alive if cap fucked the reactor?
if people felt the collateral damage from superhero doing since avengers1, why did they wait so long to keep them in check?
why nobody checked zemo's credential when trying to acces to bucky for psychological shit?
how come a high security prison runs without its own electricity source?
if the legion of doom is beneath water, how did cap manage to enter it?
>>68997114
He is fucking great in this movie
>>68997369
most of it can be explained by movie magic and would make the movie too much of a clusterfuck to explain on screen (see the desktop scene in BvS)
The arc reactor was fucked but was still working tho
>>68997369
>isnt tony fucked if the arc reactor is not working? how is he still alive if cap fucked the reactor?
He removed the shrapnel at the end of IM3
>>68997073
>he is a big part in the civil war comic books
this had barely anything to do with the comic books also Onslaught was way earlier
>>68983528
>he changed his agenda when he decided to shut down his weapons
But in Iron Man 2, when he was basically faced with this same government regulation concept, he refused.
>>68997369
>how could zemo knew government would come with a registration act?
that didn't factor into his plan
>why didnt zemo just told tony bucky killed his parents?
he wanted tony to find out for himself and watch the video of bucky killing his dad with his bare hands
>>68997571
The government wanted the suit's tech to arm its soldiers. Tony doesn't trust them with good reason.
>>68997571
Tony isn't being logical in this film which is a fallacy of his character.
>>68997369
why hadn't tony analised steve's fight pattern already?
>>68997215
how tony knew that peter parker was spiderman?
>>68997858
>Tony isn't being logical in this film
the writers basically explain he's absolutely right about policy but how in this particular case the system would fail because Bucky wasn't the right man to go after
If anything, Cap's the one who is completely unreasonable all the way through
>>68997996
He tracked him down back to his home using videos of him, and using clues such as the synthetic web he was leaving all over the city.
>sell weapons to arabs
>create godly suit of armor and use it in geopolitical conflicts
>refuse to cooperate with the government on accountability for the Iron Man armor
>create helicarriers and superweapons that corrupt government uses to target innocents
>create rogue AI that destroys a country and wrecks the internet
>create second AI even after everybody tells him its a bad fucking idea
>"We all need to be held accountable by the government."
Fuck off, Stark. The only person fucking up here is you.
apparently there an english cam out
any good?
>>68997937
also this
literally friday ex machina
>>68997937
this, it would have made him look a lot more brutal.
>>68997996
he's got eyes and ears everywhere and the videos he got were probably taken off youtube. You're just supposed to accept Tony's resourceful enough to figure it out
>>68998006
>the writers basically explain he's absolutely right about policy
He wasn't though. Cap didnt want to register because governments are stupid and corrupt, then the entire conflict of the movie happened because the governments were stupid and corrupt, causing Iron Man to have to go against their wishes. He couldn't keep to the accords for 2 weeks, what makes him think that nothing as bad as this will happen again?
>>68998050
>The only person fucking up here is you.
that's why he finally accepted the SHRA, that and the fact that Pepper dumped him.
He outright says this in the movie.
>>68998006
>Team Ironman getting so salty they resort to twisting the truth of the film
The writers basically explain that Tony is being emotionally blackmailed throughout the entire film. Especially by the government who fail to understand that they're the ones who wanted to drop a Nuke on New York and without Tony a lot more civilians would be dead by bureaucrats.
>>68997008
Scorpio is just a thug with a suit, and Kraven is kinda underwhelming for movie normies.
Mysterio would be cool, though, but what is his motivation even?
Maybe I'm biased, idunno, I've always liked the Vulture.
>>68997036
Iron Man 3 is the patrician capeshit choice.
>>68998109
>Cap didnt want to register because governments are stupid and corrupt
that's a stupid assumption to make when you're dealing with the UN as an officer in the US army. This is ultimately justified though because of the events in the winter soldier.
>then the entire conflict of the movie happened because the governments were stupid and corrupt
right, that's why Stark is correct about policy but cap was right about this one particular case. That's where the drama comes from, if Bucky wasn't cap's childhood friend nobody would have ever found out he wasn't responsible for killing T'Chaka
>>68998424
>This is ultimately justified though because of the events in the winter soldier.
And all the other cases of governments being evil and stupid and trying to use capes for evil in the MCU
>>68982618
>Captain America: Civil War
>not The Avengers: Who Watches the Watchmen.
>>68982732
No, it's not forgotten. That's why he's universally loved and national treasure.
>>68998424
>UN isn't stupid and/or corrupt
>Terrorists attack lab in Wakanda
>Black Panther, Wakanda's very own Superhero does nothing
>BAAAWW AVENGERS ARE BAD!
>>68998678
The difference is in real life it isn't powerful enough to be particularly damaging
>>68998732
>Be black
>Do something someone else can do for me
Pick one
>>68985051
because you have shittier taste
>>68983954 >>68983979 >>68984045 >>68984099 >>68984886 >>68988511 >>68989782 >>68994453 >>68996060
>bucky dindu nuffin
>>68998904
A question to you, what makes a person a person?
>>68998904
He didn't blow up the fat black king which is why he was being targeted.
>>68983954
>>68983979
>>68984045
>>68984099
>>68984886
>>68988511
>>68989782
>>68994453
>>68996060
lol so he killed people lol he was brainwashed doe he shouldnt be brought in to possibly be unbrainwashed or probed for questioning lol he was brainwashed why care lol you stupid statists lol
>>68998493
>trying to use capes for evil in the MCU
but that was never the intention of the Sokovia accords, only accountability.
The only reason why the Avengers are always right is because they're the Avengers. It's movie logic at it's most basic and works because of suspension of disbelief, but it the whole movie is grounded on challenging that assumption, then the reasonable solution would have been some sort of surveillance, which was offered to cap along with assurances that he would not be toyed with, but he refused them all.
>>68998678
granted, but as far as the movie goes, an international strikeforce with no accountability to any government as well as a liability to the US considering most of them are US citizens is way beyond the pale
>>68998759
That's only if you live within a G8 country, poor people get fucked over by the UN all the time
>>68997937
Iron Man always uses repulsor when fighting. You can see Cap and Bucky broke it, so I guess it was like last attempt for Tony to fight
I just really, really, really hope none of this wider universe stuff bogs down Black Panther.
I want that movie to have time for his philosophies, his people and Wakanda and all that shit.
But sticking Bucky in there means shit is gonna get in the way
>>68998970
Nobody said he shouldn't be questioned or put on trial. Cap even asked if he would get a trial and they said no. One of the reasons why he helped Bucky.
>>68999112
you dont question a mass murderer. you probe them
lrn2int3rr0g4t3
>>68999069
>I just really, really, really hope none of this wider universe stuff bogs down Black Panther.
I hope black panther doesn't bog down the wider universe.
T'Challa, black panther and wakanda in general are some of the worst mary sue shit in the comic book medium, I don't wanna see him shitting on everyone because everything looks "so primitive in comparison to Wakanda" or how in Wakanda there's no such thing as poverty, murder or war, etc. Fuck that shit.
>>68999246
last thing we need is a black panther espousing socioeconomic shit about how great africa is when the entire country is broiled in war and slavery
Can someone pls just post full plot, I have lost all interest in seeing this, tyvm
>>68999382
some guy hates avengers because his family died in age of ultron. So he makes them fight eachother and breaks up the avengers.
the end.
>>68999318
Yeah, the problem with Wakanda as a concept is in a giant multinational movie they can't say anything interesting about Africa.
>>68999464
i wonder what the betting line is of black panther saying
>muh country
>muh land
>muh slavery
>muh colonialism
>muh white people
>>68982618
>is anyone else getting tired of everything revolving around Iron Man?
Not really.
He is one of the more interesting characters that Marvel has managed to really flesh out.
Civil War actually even makes my point more valid.
>thread derailed into /pol/ being butthurt about Black Panther
lmao
>>68999523
I'm kind of doubtful they'll be able to go for even the softball targets. They made a world war 2 movie that seemed to strive to not mention Nazis, and those were the whitest villians in history
>thinking the accords mean shit when villains and terrorists or alien invasions don't play by the rules
>>68990723
That would be fucking awesome.
>>68999523
>muh colonialism
ding ding ding
I can almost hear him in his atrocious accent shitting on some englishman extra about how white people have been trying to conquer Wakanda for generations but they always return in bodybags or some other drama laden nonsense
>>68986736
MYSTERIO WHEN
>>68999634
but there wasn't any colonialism to bitch about in that movie.
It could have been fun to get some easter egg in there about a Hydra expedition to Wakanda trying to get some vibranium though. Christopher Priest wrote a comic about a similar story if I remember correctly
I don't read comics. Why is Kingpin a good Spiderman villain?
They seem worlds apart
>>68999866
it's low level street crime at it's best. Exactly the type of villain that fits for Spiderman.
All of his scenes had a pretty light tone so I don't think they'll go with Kingpin though
>>68997008
>>68996845
Fuck are you guys talking about? What happened to Keaton? Malkovich was supposed to be Vulture in raimis Spiderman 4.
>>68999069
Black Widow was in IM2.
Hawkeye was in Thor.
Black Widow was in Cap2.
Falcon was in Ant-Man.
Everyone was in Cap3.
Hulk will be in Thor3.
Bucky might be in Black Panther but NO THIS IS TOO FAR.
>>68984582
Because he's Spider-Man. Being annoying as fuck is his way of getting back at the world for picking on him when he was a weak NEEEEERD.
>>69000996
>Black Widow was in IM2.
I dont know why you gave your first example to be the movie that was most weighed down by wider universe shit
>>69001314
Not him but I never understood this criticism. I never felt like that was the problem.
>>69001412
it was an already weak movie that got it's control bullied out of Favreu's hands.
>>69001412
The movie was set up to be about the pressure of being Iron Man was worsening his health and sanity and him having to mature. The actual movie had Tony suit up just 4 times (half of them being him just fucking around) and the rest of the time being him going to the races while Nick Fury shows up to give him the bullshit element that solves his problem while advertising the Avengers
>>69001625
>while advertising the Avengers
That didn't bother me, he was around for like, 5 minutes?
>Tony discovers a new element
That was pretty neat. He should win a Nobel.
>>68999736
>tryingt to be /pol/ this hard
Wakanda is not a nice place, anon. It's very technologically advanced, but not very culturally different from the rest of Africa.
>>69001867
There is nothing consistent about portrayals of Wakanda between different writers
>>68998732
It was in Nigeria. A group of Wakandans were in the building that got blown up because they were on a diplomacy mission.
>>69001867
Did they do the nanotech suit in the movie, or is it a hard helmet?
>>69001867
you seriously believe any of that is going to show up in the movies?
I marathoned the first 37 minutes and holy shit this is the greatest marvel film to date
muh dick
>>69001984
It's not something that doesn't exist in the real world.
>>69002024
How is 37 minutes considered marathoning?
>>69002201
it's a meme newfriend
>>69002042
the point of Wakanda is to present an african power trip, the most common portrayal of the country has always been to posit that is how all of Africa would have looked without colonialism.
In fact the most troublesome aspect of Wakanda post 9/11 has been the fact that it's governed in a self proclaimed warrior cult with admittedly fractured tribal relations among itself. This is often spun into an excuse to set up some colorful duel or weird ritual but ultimately the fact that Wakanda is not a democracy is both talked about constantly in that T'Challa can divert the full resources of the country to his convenience for his adventuring yet mostly shoved under the rug until some convenient rift between himself and the Wakandan council excuses the next arc in the comic.
It could be a pretty interesting story if they set up an arc of T'Challa getting dethroned or abdicating and Wakanda transitioning to a democracy only to revert back to a monarchy/caudillo structure later on
>>68984582
I liked him.
>>68997369
Ok the last one is pretty good
>>68982618
RDJ is still the best character they have. All the other main players are shit and out shadowed by people that don't even have their own motives yet.
>>69002547
Oh that's cool. I'm not really familiar with the character, but I was thinking it would be weird if no one protested against T'Chala, since he's one of the wealthiest man on the planet. It would mean that he redirect his country's funds to himself one way or another, which would go against the nice king view that would make him bland and boring.
>>69001966
Hard helmet. Still really fucking baller, I live the style, apart from the weird feet.
>>68998904
I barely even like Bucky because his damsel in distress plot device routine that takes over movies is getting old. But he really dindu nuffin. None of the bad he did was of his volition nor was he in control of himself. He's the biggest victim of the MCU so far.
>>68982618
>tired of iron man
you're bananas, thats like saying: are you tired of batman
>>68997369
>why didnt zemo just told tony bucky killed his parents?
He did.
>why tony had anti antman tecnology in his suit?
It was a fire extinguisher.
>if a van expldoes across the street, how a room several floors up got exploded too?
Have no idea what you're talking about here but if it is about the crossbones suicide bombing Wanda tries lifting him up to prevent civilian casualties on the ground.
>how can bucky and cap fall from 4 storey height and not fucking their legs?
They're super soldiers.
>since antman physics logic is bullshit ill not ask about antman physics
Pym Particles ain't gotta explain shit.
>why did falcon rushed to warmachine when je was fucked by vision?
He was trying to save him from the fall.
>isnt tony fucked if the arc reactor is not working? how is he still alive if cap fucked the reactor?
They fixed that at the end of Iron Man 3.
>if people felt the collateral damage from superhero doing since avengers1, why did they wait so long to keep them in check?
They didn't do anything until Africa, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.
>why nobody checked zemo's credential when trying to acces to bucky for psychological shit?
They had a qualified psychiatrist, zemo was posing as him.
>how come a high security prison runs without its own electricity source?
An actual valid point.
>if the legion of doom is beneath water, how did cap manage to enter it?
Good one I'll admit.
What's with Ant Man's powers? If the whole point is that he retains his human strength while in a different size, why is he stronger when he's a giant? If he's stronger when he's giant, being able to smash things with his foot and all, shouldn't he be weaker while small? Why do these size changes work differently from each other if it's the same principle? Why is he also slower when in giant form, even though he's as fast as a normal human while small?
this is literally the citizen kane of capekino
holy shit
>>68997937
If Tony uses a suit to find enemies' fight patterns, does that mean that the suit does everything on its own and he's literally just a body inside of it, since even if he know what blows were coming, he, as a human, wouldn't have the reaction time to deal with them?
>>69003737
It's a movie, and sometimes wrigers shit their pants. It would have been incredibly stupid if he was as light and as weak as a normal human while big.
>>68997369
>grasping at straws
>>69003832
In a hand to hand fight, maybe. The suit woule have to act faster than the opponent though.
>>69003943
It's even more stupid that his powers aren't consistent.
>>69004050
I know, I know, but a superhero movie that would be consistent and abiding to laws of physics and human anatomy would be over real quick.
Cap gets characterized by his gay lust for Bucky
Bucky is a macguffin
Scarlett Witch and Vision get characterized by showing how strong powers they have, also feelings for each other
Spidey and Ant-Man getting characterized by their powers and quips
Widow and Hawkeye... never mind no character development at all
>Tony characterized by guilt of his former actions
>Tony has actually inner conflict & turmoil, just wants to play save and that they team can stay together
>Tony characterized by guild for his parents and envy of Cap because he had a good relationship with his dad
seriously, Marvel hiding it not anymore that they only wanna flesh out Iron Mans character, Black Panther came close in CW and you could see that they put a lot of effort in his little story arc
>>69004225
Steve has gotten an arc that shows that he's become much more cynical and less trusting, particularly when it comes to the government. I agree that Tony has had the most consistent and thought out arc of all of them, though.
Anyone got a spoiler board or a deep summary of the movie?
>>69004525
cam rip is out if you wanna spoil yourself
probably wait for theaters man, this is amazing
>>69004523
cap and tony have always been the only 2 actual characters in any marvel movie, thor has been the lost opportunity with 2 movies but no development and is going to stick out like a sore thumb when infinity war comes in
Spiderman is probably going to fill in that void
>>69004225
Cap has a massive arc. He realises he doesn't give a shit. He care for his friends more than anything else and he doesn't wanna take orders anymore.
>>69004608
Maybe Ragnarok will change that?
>>69004225
>>69004523
I can actually see MCU Cap being a member of the MCU illuminati. It'll be a good reversal of what is in the comics
>>69004727
he still needs his sidekicks for that, that's why Cap could never carry a stand alone movie
>>69004856
He already has and if you say he hasn't, none of these characters have.
>>68997369
>why didnt zemo just told tony bucky killed his parents?
He did nigger, even worst, boxed them together and then fucking showed a video of the killing.
>>69004842
He'll just be doing secret avenger stuff.
>>69005066
yeah, TFA which underperformed
But guys seriously is this the best Superhero movie. I don't think it beats Batman Begins but that's it.
>>69005103
I think things would be different now after Winter Soldier and Civil War.
>>68982618
Would you prefer it revolving around wolverine ?
>>69005133
it beats begins, dont kid yourself
>>69005375
>>69005133
are you talking about that Doctor Strange rip off?
>>69005452
>>69005375
You're right it is the best. Also people will say how Strange is a rip off of Begins now.
>Cap talking in the CIA facility
>"Why did they publish his picture?"
>they imply that it was someone on the inside trying to make sure that Bucky was captured at all costs
>camera moves to the psychiatrist and Steve immediately realizes the psychiatrist was behind this
>In other words, Zemo spread the picture in the news
>Zemo dresses up as Bucky
>bombs some UN meeting (which just so happened to be about the Sokovia Accord, but that doesn't really matter that much)
>races away
>immediately goes to the CIA facility in a disguise, risking someone not recognizing him
>with his psychiatrist credentials, he pulls the camera footage from the servers, then puts out a formal press statement with the camera footage so that Bucky can be apprehended in Romania
Flawless plan
>>69005657
lel he never dresses up as bucky
>>68983411
>he gave weapons and bombs to Andy Serkis
They specifically said he didn't.
>>69005804
Didn't they find a buckywig and shit in his hotel room? How else did he bomb the building but make everybody think it was Bucky that did it?
>>69005861
If I understood everything he used some facial mask or something? Not sure at all as it was glossed over, but to me it sounded like he used what Natasha used at the end of Winter soldier to look like an old lady.
>>69006006
So he dressed up as Bucky
Guys I almost had tears during that fight it was amazing.
>>68982732
Does anyone remember when you never watched Iron Man because they literally have Tony try to shut down his arms division after seeing the effects of his weapons first-hand?
It's like some people TRY to sound retarded here.
I was team Captain America and thought there was no way I would flip over. Iron Man was much more sympathetic in this. RDJ also gave his best performance as Iron Man. He was subdued, likable, and you really felt his pain. Captain America, while right a lot of the time, came off as a cunt most of the time.
>>69006262
When did he come off as a cunt? I do agree about RDJ.
>>69006262
not only that but in Rhodey, Tony has an equivalent and just as powerful friendship that could have gone to shit simply because cap was being stubborn, Tony's point doesn't come without sacrifices, unlike Cap who got to wreck shit up all over the world just to end up freezing up Bucky anyways
>>69006351
He just felt like he was going to defend his friend no matter what, which to some is a fine quality, but when your friend is a brainwashed mass murderer, something has to give. Chris Evan's just seemed off too. His performance was more dark and angry than it ever has been before.
>>69006262
had similar experience
Cap was just too stubborn and stoic most of the time
>>69006434
he got a kiss out of it tho, second one in 70 years hehehe
>>Captain.America.Civil.War.2016.I.ENGLISH.HDCAM.KANISHK.mp4
look it up. it's all in english except for the ending.
>>69006489
The face Bucky and Falcon pulled had everyone (myself included) laughing.
But when you think of it, he got with his gf's niece. That's a tad weird.
>>69006613
That was legit on point.
>>69006006
Friday says that the mask and wig approximated the appearance of James Barnes. I think it was specifically a Bucky mask the way she worded it.
Why did Crossbones kill himself? Was it to attempt to frame the Avengers?
Was the registration act essential just turning the Avengers into SHIELD with super powers?
Anybody else enjoyed Falcon's performance in the movie ? He kicked serious ass
>>69006434
I think they could have solved this by having him some more touching moments with Bucky. They seemed to rush through their time together, while devoting really large portions of screen time to Tony's stress and angst and suffering. That was my only problem with the movie, you saw way more of Tony as a person than Steve or Bucky and why their friendship was so important. I think it was in part because they needed Tony to look more sympathetic when he tried killing Bucky, and because of how mainstream it's become for people to see Steve and Bucky's relationship as homo.
>>69006728
Better dead with a dead cap than in jail with cap alive
>>69006728
Well the biggest problems for Cap that was my fiest thought as well is that they would answer to the UN. Not a bad thing in itself, but we all know how slow massive institutions like that can be. That would render the Avengers basically unable to react to anything, as by the time they would be authorised to act, everything would have gone to shit already.
>>69006763
Yeah, he was pretty cool. I liked his little bird.
I still have problems with him not having a face concealing helmet, as it was planned, but that's just personnal taste.
More like Iron Man: Civil War
p.s. cap is a nigger
>>69007175
kill yourself.
>>69007413
fuck off cap
>>69007478
I will wreck you, you little bitch.
