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Why is no one talking about this?
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>>68928291
Is it ANYTHING like Clockwork Orange?
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>>68928291

Tell me when a Webrip is out
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>>68928311
Yesterday
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Because Ben Wheatley is a grade a hack.
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>>68928291
because it's a piece of shit
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>>68928291
Fucking loved it
>Dat soundtrack
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>>68929530
This. Anyone know where I can listen to that Portishead cover of S.O.S?
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>>68928291
It was meh.
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>68928311

High-Rise.2015.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-PLAYNOW.mkv
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>>68929436
>>68929588

Well what do you know, thanks lads
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>>68929568
Gets taken down within hours, I've seen it killed twice already
For some reason it's not on the OST album
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>>68928291
Honestly, because I don't think Wheatley is a very good director.
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>>68928291

>tfw 45 minutes of brilliance that fills you with the hope that you are watching one of the masterpieces of 2016 and for some reason Wheatley changes up and what follows is the biggest collapse in recent memory

a fucking regrettable mess

how could he mess up Ballard's book so badly? it has one of the best premises of basically any book ever.

I'll take Cronenberg's inadvertent adaptation, Shivers, any day.
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I didn't realize this was Sienna Guillory until about halfway through the movie, and I love her
What an incredible cast this had
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>>68928291
watching it tonite with my qt if she doesn't fall asleep first
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>>68930092
do you think though that's the point? The editing in the second half is chaotic, just like what's going on on-screen. I personally loved it, and it's because of how absurd and all over the place the pacing gets in the later stages that makes it weirdly better in my eyes.
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>>68930223

I'm going to rewatch it because I had huge expectations so it's possible that my own hype was the issue rather than the movie. I think the best sequence in the movie is the very opening moments that set the stage so well and so beautifully capture the tone of Ballard's novel. I couldn't say the same of the rest of the movie. There was way too much time spent with the architect and I thought the movie just became kind of histrionic and silly. I also felt as though it needed to be far more vicious than it was. I expected Wheatley's aptitude for intense violence as evidenced by Kill List would work perfectly in High Rise as well but it felt restrained. The movie didn't feel as chaotic as I felt it should have. I'll probably give it another shot at some point but I was very disappointed.
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>>68930305
Fair enough. General consensus does seem to point to it being divisive. I've not read the novel however. I'm a big history/Politics guy and 1970s Britain under Labour and the transition to Thatcher is something I've always loved reading about and this movie for me captured it very well. That's what I mainly took away from it.
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>feminist ending for no reason whatsoever

Just felt thematically out of place t b h
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>>68930401
>feminist
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>>68930398

You should check the book out. It's a masterpiece.
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>>68928291
Because /tv/ is pleb central.
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>>68930599

I mean it is true that the movie isn't being discussed for that reason given that the plebs here likely have never heard the names Wheatley or Ballard before but the movie is not good man. It's a failure.
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>no incest

dropped
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>>68930685
>It's a failure.
You mean it failed to meet your expectations
I certainly wouldn't call something so gorgeous and absorbing a failure
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Will I like High-Rise if I didn't like The Drowned World?
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>>68928291
I wish it was was more gradual. Suddenly after one montage everyone is fucking mental
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>>68930720

meh, I'm not alone in my thoughts, which is what is surprising to me. it felt so clumsy to me and tonally imbalanced in that second half. I'm not sure I can remember a movie in recent memory that was overall so mediocre if not even worse than that while still containing many sequences of brilliance
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>>68930785

Yeah, the reasons for the collapse weren't really well articulated.
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>bookfags whining wasn't like teh buk
rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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I remember this premiering at TIFF. said it was going to have a cult following, noone listened kek

>>68930897
Why do people keep doing this?
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>>68930784

Yes.

I love Drowned World but the two of them are very different books. They both consider similar ideas about human degradation but in terms of the writing style they couldn't be more different. Drowned World's obsession with language gives it a prolixity that some people don't seem to like. High Rise is far more minimal and narrative. Give it a shot.
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It's shit. Worse than The Lobster.

Does the book have all the unnatural/quirky/shit dialogue too?
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>>68930897

That's not what has been happening though. My complaint was that it didn't capture the amazing tone and atmosphere that Ballard managed. A movie obviously doesn't need to follow a book exactly but if it attempts to evoke a similar tone but fails to do so then that's when the comparisons become relevant. Also most of the things that Wheatley did change were all terrible decisions like the introduction of that little kid that serves only a lame symbolic purpose.
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>>68931183

The book has "unnatural" dialog but it doesn't sound stupid in the way that it frequently does in the mouths of Wheatley's characters. Ballard's dialog is meant to sound alien though.
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I liked it, reminded me of bioshock a bit

also tom hiddlestons character reminded of his role in the night manager
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>>68928291
Just finished watching this. Haven't read the book, but it felt like a failing adaptation, an inconsitent one. relying on gimmicks instead of actual story telling.
The whole film feels like a series of metaphores that went over my head. someone care to elborate on what the fuck was it all about?
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>>68928291
cus I aint seen it yet

>>68928308
Because the poster looks the same?

>>68929588
Thanks mane
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>>68928291
Because Snowpiercer in a block of flats is still stupid?
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>>68930976
because people complained BvS wasn't like the comics so now its cool to mock and hate on people that think an adaptation should at least try to follow the source material
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>>68933457

The movie turns the ideas in the book into something far more superficial. That being said, the central idea behind the movie has to do with technology dulling relationships between people to the point that we can do unthinkable things to one another. Living inside a technologically advanced building that is lifeless turns the residents into isolated individuals who lose any sense of a communal feeling for one another. Ballard anticipated things like the internet when he wrote the book in a pretty terrifying way.

Then you have things about Thatcherism and it also looks at class antagonisms. What is so frustrating about the movie though is that Wheatley misinterpreted the book's depiction of the class struggle in the building. Ballard looked at the relationship between the middle class and the yearning those people feel to be a part o the upper class on the top floor. It is about the middle-class fascination with wealth and their disappointment at rising higher than the lower class but not making it far enough. Also Ballard shows that every class in the building feels as though they are in the most vulnerable position when the violence erupts.

Wheatley translates these far more subtle notions into something more akin to Snowpiercer that is just pretty standard sci-fi class warfare that takes a simple-minded view of things and posits the upper class as devious and villainous.
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>>68928291
I like Jeremy Irons, is there any reason he's always in bad movies?
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>>68933779

Just so you know because you seem to be oblivious is that Ben Wheatley is one of the most respected arthouse directors in England right now and the source material for the film is generally considered a masterpiece of sci-fi literature. This was a great project for Irons to take on. It's just a shame that it doesn't work.
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>>68933779
Is it possible Irons is the reason? Perhaps he's really not a very good actor?
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>>68928291
/tv/ fucking hates ben wheatly even though they love the witch which is a very similar to ben's horror movie , the kill list stylistically and in tone
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>>68930126
Should have been the main character in the Resi films instead of that cunt Jovovich.
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>>68933779
>that feel when you love movies as a young lad then grow up and learn that everyone universally pans them for sucking ass

loved Eragon m8. And he was great it in.
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>>68933755
Thanks,anon. Also, what was the kid suppose to symbolize?
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>>68933746

But that's not what it is at all.

Even a little bit.
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>>68928291
>Why is no one talking about this?
1. It's based on a work of literature itself based on unsettling conclusions of behavioural science and not a child's picture book.
2. It isn't made by Disney or Warner Bros so revolting manbabies can't scream shill at each other
3. It's a film and so has no place being discussed here amidst all the threads about some fat bitch in a wig on a puerile softcore porn show aimed at retards and shut ins.
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>>68930126
Holy shit I've been reading the book but now I'm torrenting this immediately.
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>>68928291

>DUDE! like, what if the poor people lived at the bottom, and like *smokes joint the rich people lived at the top!

>WHOA DUDE! Thats like, so deep, and like, says so much about society and stuff!
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>>68929568
http://videos.sapo.pt/fwEHkKMGZD4zCgyWDqzq
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>>68930398
Thatcher speech at the end was horribly on the nose.

>>68930857
>>68930785
Completely agree. Much slower in the book.

>>68934917
Thanks anon.

>>68930305
Best sequence is the dog drowning. It looked magnificent.
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>>68935374

All the sequences with Luke Evans were great, The guy's really got some charisma

Don't suppose there's a webm floating around of Wilder and Lain dancing in slowmotion?
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>Awwight, which one of you bastards is going to fuck me in the ass?

Diamonds
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>>68934765
You're right 3bh. Now tell us your thoughts on the film
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>>68928291
Too many white people
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>>68933457
>it felt like a failing adaptation

I don't think the book really can be adapted. It's too reliant on the inner reflections of the characters, who undergo processes that are difficult to convey outside of clunky "Here is what I am thinking, here is what I am feeling" dialogue. That's why the latter half of the movie feels just completely incoherent; people are doing (some of) the same things, but we really don't know why.

TBF the book is very much of its time in any case.
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>>68933841

Actors aren't solely responsible for the quality of the films they appear in. He's a great actor, he has been in a lot of dross, though. Watch Brideshead Revisited and Reversal of Fortune.
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>>68930126
>ass

It's clearly 'arse'. There is all the difference.
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>>68930092
>inadvertent
I've always thought it was deliberate.
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Whitley is so good at suspense, violence and that feel that something bad is going to happen soon but none of these things are in this film
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>>68930092
I like the drowned world better so I'm hoping that gets a proper adaptation.
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thanks, i missed this one. i got to hear ballard speak at a bookstore (and got a sig). even HE was embarrased by his Crash stuff. good guy.
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>>68936877
They were being made at the same time and were released in the same year. Cronenberg said he had no idea about High Rise the novel as he was shooting Shivers.

There was something in the air among artists in the mid-70s about Brutalist tower blocks making us inhuman.
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>>68936368
The upper-class orgy was definitely the most horrifying part of the film

Just middle-aged toffs and social climbers fucking each other, I almost threw up

Bravo Wheatley
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>>68934044
He represents the generation coming of age under Thatcher (you can hear him tuning into a Thatcher on his homemade radio at the end of the film). He's also a bystander, a voyeur, who presumably is going to learn all this shitty dog-eat-dog behavior from his parents' generation and repeat it all over again. So basically he's David Cameron.
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>>68928291
Because it turned out to be not very good.The original trailer oversold it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdTSfLOeo-E

The whole movie pretty much goes to shit halfway through when everyone just loses their minds for no real reason and they just start playing constant montages of everything. Maybe it can be saved if they do a complete re-edit of it.
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>>68934917

Thank you for this. I had never heard of portishead until this link and man, they are awesome. A thousand thank you's anon.
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>>68939224
I'd rather have burned the money I spent to watch it. Hipster trash.
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