The great debate
>>68885988
Holly v1 by forever
the greater debate
>>68886057
kryten v2 forever
The greatest debate: If you had to drop one of the main cast who would it be?the cat obv
>>68886100
Kochanski in a heartbeat
>inb4 gay
it's a boys club, women don't belong
>>68886100
rimmer
The g8 deb8
>>68886100
Kryten
Duayne Dibbly saves Cat
>>68886179
Kill, Marry+Fuck
>>68886179
Chloe is better looking but claire would be more fun and dirtier in bed I reckon.
>>68885988
Girl Holly hands down. She was cute and way funnier.
goth holly
>no Queeg
Suckas
Cat > Rimmer > Lister > Kryten
>>68886179
In ascending order
>season 6 (psiren)
>season 1+2
>season 8
>[gaping chasm]
>season 7
Queeg. The jape of the decade.
>It's a nanobots rebuilt everyone episode
>not thinking Rimmer is one of the greatest characters in television history
Anyone else prefer the first two seasons? I like the isolated, lonely feeling.
>>68887480
Series 4-6 are the absolute pinnacle for me. But series 1-2 are classic in their own way.
>>68887480
yeah plus with the background noise it feels like a comfy ASMR show
>>68885988
Male Holly, although the show was better when Female Holly was in it
>>68886057
Llewellyn is just funnier but Ross(?) did very well in the episode he was in
>>68886100
Cat
>>68886179
Tough choice, we never saw a lot of the original Kochanski, but I'd rather fuck Chloe even if her character is a bit stuck up
>>68886850
>The nanobots didn't make a Listen clone because
After having watched the whole series 4 times, I've finally come to the conclusion that I just don't ever want to watch seasons 7, 8 and Back to Earth ever again.
They just don't have the same quality as the others.
Season 10 was a step back in the right direction, hopefully 11 and 12 are good.
>>68887912
>I've finally come to the conclusion that I just don't ever want to watch seasons 7, 8 and Back to Earth ever again
Series 7 gets a lot of unnecessary flack. I liked the interaction and relationship between Kryten and Kochanski - there were some great episodes in the 7th. Series 8 and Back to Earth I can agree on.
Season 5 was a masterpiece. Every episode is fantastic. Plus each character dies at least twice.
>>68887855
Never thought about that. Probably because he was alive and they only brought back everyone who was dead. They didn't make another Kochanski either.
>>68888291
Wow I forgot about Kochanksi, now it makes even less sense. Kochanski is from a paralell universe, do the nanobots know this?
It's pretty sad to think about how Lister and the Cat are the only truly alive people in the show. Kryten is a robot and Rimmer is a projection. All of the resurrected crew are just clones.Kochanski is alive too I guess.
>>68885988
Rimmer>Male Holly>Lister>Kryten>Cat>Female Holly>Kochanski
Having said that, I'd rather drop Kryten than The Cat, I loved the first two season dynamic of the odd couple with Cat as the outsider.
>>68888415
That was the whole premise originally, Lister is literally the last human alive in the universe.
>>68888465
As the show went on, the Cat ended up having some of the best one-liners. His character was definitely the one which developed the most.
>>68888415
>Wow I forgot about Kochanksi, now it makes even less sense. Kochanski is from a paralell universe, do the nanobots know this?
whichever universe shes from shouldnt change that she is satisfying the role of kochanski in the ship
I cant believe I love Kryten so much and everybody else hates him / loves the Cat
Horses for courses...
>>68888584
I love all the characters to be quite honest.
>>68888584
everyone likes that hes a walking black stereotype.
>>68888584
He became the show's ex machina, always solving the crew's problems for them
He was insufferable in season 7 though, but not the worst thing about the show during that year.
>>68885988
Anyone here read the books? The ones by them both and Backwards are amazing, and really flesh a lot of thing the show barely went into.
e.g. Better Than Life gives what you unconsciously desire, and makes you think the game is actually your life, so that whoever uses it ends up dying from not eating or drinking.
>>68888659
Any what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axDtj2bSduM
>>68888705
>>68886179
The problem I always had with Chloë Annett as Kochanski is that it kind of misses the point of the character. Lister being obsessed with Kochanski and going on about how beautiful she is is funny because she's just a pretty average Glaswegian and as disgusting as Lister is she is hardly out of his league. It's part of what makes Lister so relatable and likable, that he's fallen hopelessly in love with someone so unremarkable which is something we all do at some point.
But Chloë Annett is basically a model and her version of Kochanski is suddenly this spoiled upper class posh girl. It's less relatable and less interesting.
The writing for Annett was also pretty poor and she was painfully unfunny so that doesn't help.
>>68888739
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear: I said supper is ready!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x6h96zs0Xc#t=2.24
>>68888768
Same tank they used in Goldeneye you know.
>>68888768
Why does starbug have two different AR machines?
>>68888684
I have them all, they are amazing.
Better than Life was my favourite one, Rimmer's unconsciousness fucking with him and the Cats living in a norse castle complete with 9ft naked amazonians.
Good stuff.
Last Human was defo the worst.
>>68888824
>>68888739
These individually > Anything from Cat
Why was Mr. Flibble such a cunt?
>>68888831
Looks like 4 individual machines to me senpai
>It's a Rimmer burns a guitar shaped piece of wood episode
fuck that was funny
>>68886179
goddamn clare grogan makes my dick so hard
>>68888927
There's the one they use in Gunman of the Apocolypse and the one lister uses in Stoke me a Clipper
It's the same Starbug but 2 different AR machines.
>>68888759
The differences in characterisation can be chalked up to "muh paralell universe", but the original Kochanski seemed a bit stuck up as well. Not to that degree, though.
It's a testament to just how obsessed Lister was with Kochanski that he was willing to accept what is essentially another person who just happened to look like her and was nothing like her
>>68889016
>ywn be a near-future scouser who marries his Scottish sweetheart and lives happily in Fuji.and neither will Lister
>>68889104
2016 and I just realised "there's no kind of atmosphere" can refer not only to the literal lack of atmoshphere in space, but also how the "atmoshpere"/mood feels inside
Damn
>watching Red Dwarf after season 4
>be german
>be spending formative years in England
>show my german flatmates this show
>they are in love with it and we watched multiple episodes per day until we had seen them all
Why is british television/comedy so based?
>>68889413
I hope you're joking
season 5 and 6 are among the best of the whole series
>My friend doesn't like Red Dwarf because it's boring
>Doesn't like Doctor Who because the special effects are bad
Why live
>>68889449
[spoilers]no jews[/spoilers]
>>68889503
ctrl+s
>>68889497
i dont care for doctor who. there's too much lore and stuff. i can't jump into a show and know I'm missing all the injokes and I'm not going to devote weeks watching the old ones.
>>68889526
There's like two injokes a season and they don't effect the show at all outside of "dude reference lmao"
All you gotta know is he's an old dude in a blue box who has 13 lives
>>68889610
My main gripe is half the time the show doesn't even make sense.
If it was a fixed point in time that the Doctor died, why did having a robot that looked like him die get him out of it? Did he literally fool time itself? Could he have just had someone shout 'The Doctor's dead', would that have tricked time?
>>68889659
The "fixed point" was everybody ~seeing~ the doctor die, and ~believing~ he was dead.
Whether or not he actually died is beside the point
>>68889728
So nobody from that year onward thinks the Doctor is still alive? Wouldn't everyone now know he's had a generation past that?
>>68886120
>Kochanski
>Main cast
Hello newfriend.
>>68889104
Wasn't it Fiji?
>>68889759
It was a pretty big plot point in the following series that everybody thought he was dead/forgot about him, but they seem to have moved on from that now. Maybe it will be adressed again in series 10 with The Silence (who he was trying to trick) being rumoured to return.
The continuity stuff like this doesn't really concern your typical episode though
>>68889891
Oh, I'm not that guy, I dropped the show ages for somewhat plebby reasons. Stupid shit like that is just so annoying, the Doctor Who writers really think convolution=being smart. Of course, there's always the chance it will be cleared up with 'time paradox lol'.
>It's a Cat Hat war episode
>>68889994
>The dialogue states the colours of the hats were x and y but in the pictures they are clearly y and z
>>68889805
Yes.
>>68889805
>>68890060
No, it was Fuschal
>>68890044
Well cats are colourblind.
>>68886467
>He doesn't want to drink some authoritarian BBC hologram jizz
>>68890106
Yes that too.
>>68890172
After millions of years of evolution would that still be the case?
>>68890106
>Fuschal, the promised land, and Cloister the stupid.
>>68890199
I dunno, funny tho if they can't even see the colors of the hats.
>>68890247
The whole thing about the humanoid cat species evolving all on their own on Red Dwarf is obviously silly to begin with.
>>68890313
Wow, really?
>>68890172
>>68890199
>>68890247
Is this part of the joke that I completely missed or something
>>68890408
maybe thats why his fashion is so silly
>>68888684
That's an Alan Moore Superman story. That's Narcissus. That plot device is old as hell.
>>68890393
Don't be cheeky.
>>68890466
and?
>>68890466
And? Its still much more fleshed out and interesting than 'you get everything you want, look Lister has a motorbike hahaha'.
>>68888684
Yep, even better than the tv show
>>68890575
Probably the most interesting part for me was in the book with the more realistic Ace Rimmer, and the prologue and epilogue describing how the two Rimmer's lives differed (Normal Rimmer's parents intervened so he didn't stay down a year at school, while Ace Rimmer's parents failed to stop him repeating).
>>68890502
>>68890527
And everyone but Rimmer is shit.
>>68890851
Are you referring to Better Than Life or the show in general? Have you even read the book, or are you just being contrarian?
>>68890851
non sequitor
Started watching it the other day since it's all on Netflix, it's weird since I remember it being on all the time when I was younger but I swear they only ever showed the same 4 or 5 episodes.
![Back_to_Reality_(Red_Dwarf)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9LJHyoK.jpg "Back_to_Reality_(Red_Dwarf)[1].jpg")
>you will never be 11 again, seeing this episode for the first time and think that the hallucination is real
I was in shock
