They changed his character completely in the blink of an eye. What happened?
bump - fuck the generals
the hacks
One minute he's quivering 24/7 the next he's sacrificing for salsa
He finally grew a p- oh wait
>>68851002
ego death
>>68850628
deus ex machina aka bad writing - the bane of this series
>>68850628
sansa happened
>>68850628
He watched Ramsay rape someone he cares about.
>>68850628
No he did not. Are you really that fucking dumb and dense that GAME OF THRONES GOES OVER YOUR HEAD?
He's been changing ever since Sansa came back to winter fell.
No they didn't. Pay more attention next time retard.
>>68850628
Who's this Theon Greyjoy?
That's a picture of Reek and Sansa.
>>68851656
they did. One second his balls are gone and he can do nuffin, not even kill himself, the next momement he's running for his life in the freezing cold with no supplies
>>68850628
Penises make people inherently evil, thanks to Ramsay he (?) can play a heroic character again.
>>68850628
D&D
>>68852045
D and D ?
>>68850628
Sansa is fucking dumb, holy shit
>Theon sacrifices himself so you can get away
>Let's just stay behind this tree because why not
>>68852278
GOD FROM THE MACHINE saves them 2 seconds after they get captured.
>>68851565
Being flayed and tortured for years and getting your dick cut off isn't as strong as watching some girl you didn't even liked to begin with getting savaged by her husband.
Powerful stuff.
>GRRM kills the best antagonist in the series too early (Tywin)
>Replaces him with one dimensional psychopaths who does edgy things to make them bad (Boltons)
The series is fucking schlock and anyone still watching has the emotional maturity of a teenager
>>68852533
agree
>>68852533
Boltons aren't even the main antagonists in GRRM. You're thinking about the show.
>>68852456
Sansa was so fucking useless this episode. She wasn't tortured or maimed like Theon was, so why is she the one acting pathetic instead of him?
>>68852659
another "HURRRR SEX IS WORSE THAN DEATH OR MUTILATION DURRRRRR"
>>68850628
God this board really is full of autists.
Theon felt horribly guilty about betraying Robb, destroying Winterfell, and ruining his real family (Starks). Watching Sansa get tortured was too much for him and he felt it was his responsibility to help her considering how much he fucked over the Starks. Theon felt he deserved what Ramsay did to him, but Sansa didn't. If anything, it would be inconsistent with the character development we've seen of Theon for him to not help Sansa.
Now kill yourself for making this thread.
>>68852714
wait Sansa got tortured by Ramsey ?
>>68852714
So why was he so trusting of Brienne? He'd never seen her or Pod before and the last time he escaped Ramsay had an elaborate scheme to make it look like someone was helping him when they weren't. He should have been terrified.
>>68852659
>i'm watching this qt redhead virgin with great legs getting fucked and i just wish i was on /tv/ right now
>>68852278
Theon was just as dumb.
>"I'll distract them so you can get away!"
>walks 6 feet to the right
>doesn't even try to run away so they chase after him
>"Where's Sansa?"
>"Er, I...I killed her."
>"Yeah, I don't think so."
>takes two steps, hounds immediately find her
>THANKS FOR THE HELP THEON
>>68852714
this is actually a decent post. Even though the series has gone to shit, people are taking it too far.
DUNGEONS ...
>>68851636
>Are you really that fucking dumb and dense
What board do you think you are on hothead
>>68852605
Boltons are the only thing in the books right now that can even be considered antagonistic. The Tyrells get very little time, Dorne is getting nothing accomplished, the conspirators who stabbed Jon aren't given much play. The Freys are ghosts now and the white walkers dont even talk.
If the boltons aren't the primary antagonist then there are no antagonists because literally no one covered in the series is conflicting with a formal power besides the Boltons.
>>68852404
The correct term is brienne ex machina
>>68852605
The show does a better job of producing antagonists than GRRM.
>>68852533
The boltons were edgy memelords before tywin died
>>68852896
What about the Faith Militant and the Lannisters, the OG antagonists?
>>68851087
>deus ex machina
>Game of Thrones
No...
I haven't seen the latest episode, but give one example from the first five series.
Even stuff like magic is foreshadowed. It's not like Bran just suddenly started possessing wolves when it was convenient.
>>68852949
Yeah but Tywin dying put them onto the main stage. Before they were a background house with a grim, mythic history.
>>68852818
god she's such a babe
>>68852456
In the books Theon wanted to marry Sansa
>>68852811
Just saved his life dude
>>68852965
Lannisters are still in the middle of consolidating thier power for the second time making them a non-issue still. The faith militant has no POVs within that organization so they may as well be white walkers.
>>68852913
>>68853030
You totally believe she's related to Quasimodo don't you
>>68852456
The flaying broke him, but seeing sansa get raped made him selfless. He still feels a lot of guilt for what hes done to winterfell. Cock or no cock.
>>68852973
Surely you're not forgetting the 20 GOOD MEN?
Or Brienne's ability to find whoever she needs to whenever she needs to? Actually that one was set up because she's always pulling that shit.
>>68851087
>>68852404
>>68852913
Dickheads. God from the machine isn't the same as a coincidence.
God from the machine is a sudden and unexpected torrent of water saving the Soggy Bottom Boys. God from the machine (literally) is time being stopped by the divine so Waring Hudsucker can give a gay little speech to Norville Barnes. I suppose the Coen Brothers are bad filmmakers, right, morons?
What isn't deus ex machina is people who have been searching for something, finding it: >>68853164
>>68853039
Yeah, but Ramsay saved him from being raped, shooting his atttackers with arrows.
Now he's nodding and telling Sansa to trust some random? I don't think so.
Is the show easier to enjoy if you just flat out forget whatever happened previously?
>>68853039
That's what happened first time he escaped, he got his life saved then got taken back to ramsey
>>68853143
the king is allowed to have sex with his wife to fulffil the marriage. Its only rape by current year sjw views. Shit writing by hacks
>>68853033
Which would be a really good idea
>>68853164
Deus ex machina would be if every one of the twenty good men were clearly defeated and moments from death, but then the earth opened up specifically consuming their enemies.
Beating overwhelming odds is not deus ex machina.
>>68853218
>>68853233
It only happened one time what's the chance it would happen again?
More importantly what other choices does he have?
>>68852456
>>68853281
It only happened 100% of the times he tried to escaped.
He could have tried to stab them. (stupid but a choice)
>>68853306
>have panic attack
>I'll just a pic of my crying and post it
I hate this generation
>>68853306
>but men getting decapitated and castrated is a-ok
i hate this generation
>>68853281
In that situation I dont know why Sansa was the one looking to Theon for advice - she's met Brienne before and would be more opening to trusting her than Theon.
And then this poor tortured bastard who's been a victim of Ramsay's sick games is just down with it? There is inconsistency here and it irritates me.
>>68853306
>Show rated 18 or MA in most countries
>be 13
>watch show
>triggered
maybe wait till your mature enough to handle tv
>>68853355
>>68853371
>i hate this generation-mind
>>68853306
>a fictional show
>starring fictional characters
>all acts of sex and violence are simulated
>the fictional universe they live in is comparably very uncivilised compared to our own and no attempt is made to mask this
why is she getting upset again? it makes sense, in the logic of the show, everything if fictional i.e. not based on anything real, and all acts of sex and violence are simulated
can she really not separate fantasy and reality?
>>68852456
He doesn't value himself at all.
Seeing someone he cares about get hurt is completely different. How is this so hard to understand?
>>68853513
>get hurt
SHE WAS HAVING SEX
WITH HER HUSBAND
ON HER WEDDING NIGHT
JESUS CHRIST
>>68853306
>This is how to write a sentence.
>This is how to use a full stop.
>>68852811
Theon knows everyone under Ramsay's command at Winterfell. Is there any reason for him to think that Ramsay had been hiding a giant female knight with a Valyrian steel sword just for this occasion?
Plus there's a chance he heard him, Roose, or the guy that chopped off Jaime's hand talk about the giant female knight.
>>68853448
>fave
>problematic
What the fuck is this slang shit.
>fuck those starving kids in africa
>some celeb making a joke is more important
I literally want to send most of this modern western society to a gas chamber.
>>68853504
of course not, she after all thought it was rape
>>68853504
It really doesn't make sense because the show has no logic, but I take your point about the rest.
>>68852714
This so much this.
I truly do not understand all of the bitching. This is supposed to mark the beginning of Theons redemption after his betrayal to his family and the breaking of his body and mind. Why is it unbelievable that the shred of sanity he has left drives him to save Sansa from certain rape and the horrors Ramsey is capable of?
>>68853558
getting raped by someone who played a role in your family members getting killed isn't the same as sex with your husband.
Come on, virgin.
>>68853306
>>68853448
Why do I look at these pictures.
>>68852811
Dude, she's traveling with the penultimate Westerosi hero: The Tripod.
Of course they trusted Brienne, they knew if they did, they'd feel the warmth of The Tripod's light upon their faces.
Seriously though, Sansa encountered Brienne before with Littlefinger at that tavern. And if Theon saw her trusting Brienne, then he would have no reason not to, right?
>>68853558
Oh please, even if it doesn't qualify as rape Ramsay still brutalized her. And I don't mean just with his dick.
>>68853576
Anythings possible. The point is, he's the one who oks Sansa saying yes to Brienne, when he has far more reason to fear a trap, because he knows how Ramsay operates.
>>68853655
But it's all on Sansa. Why does she look at him and he nods? He should still be shitting himself, suspecting something shady.
>>68853685
Yes it was dumb that Theon is the one who reassured Sansa. But it isn't inconsistent that he's not afraid of Brienne.
>>68853637
>raped
>virgin
I don't even know where to begin with your dumb ass so i won't ven bother you seem pretty dense
>>68853682
>Ramsay still brutalized her
Really? How? By keeping her locked up in her room? aww poor thing
>>68853637
Its not rape
The Ironborn take the women for example as salt wives while the burn and pillage their homes and would rape them, same with the Dothraki. This is war and its not all sunshines and rainbows. She knew what she was up against when LF took her there and still said yes.
>>68851087
Bane?
>>68851636
this. op must either be a standard showfag who's just in it for le epic surprise deaths, or he's an autistic book fag who can't understand or speculate on people's emotions unless their written on black and white on a page.
>>68853853
Greyjoy will cut off the Bolton's dick and attach it to his little stump. You know this to be true.
>>68853799
Yeah it bothers me how they're not really developing Sansa. She can clearly endure a lot of punishment and abuse but she doesn't seem any stronger or wiser. Maybe she'll find some use traveling with Brienne, Pod, and Theon.
>>68853950
Greyjoy gets murdered in about two episodes son
>>68853983
Citation needed.
>>68850628
me on the left
>>68853448
Chris Evans is truly a great man.
>>68853448
>Ugghh
Why do they keep saying this?
>>68850628
>They changed his character completely in the blink of an eye. What happened?
Bad writing
>>68852965
>Faith Militant
Not really sure you can call them antagonists, they're really more of a side-effect of Cersei's bad decisions that come back and bite her in the ass.
>The Lannisters
Understandable to see them as antagonists, yet with Tywin and Joffrey gone, and the fact that Tyrion and Jamie are made to be extremely easy to sympathize with, Cersei is the only Lannister who it is still easy to hate.
>>68853752
It's already been explained multiple times throughout the thread. He'd been with the Boltons since the dread fort, never seen or heard of Brienne from any of the men. Brienne and The Tripod just killed off Ramsay's men and made the dogs disappear (which is an actual issue that should be criticized). They were freezing to death, on the run, and have no other choice but to trust in someone in order to continue to escape and live. How is this hard to believe?
>>68854114
>Uggh
>Its not ok
>I cant even
I cant stand these phrases anymore
I don't even remember why brienne is so dedicated to catlyn stark. Didn't they know each other for like 20 seconds? Didn't she back stannis and then rob as King and not renly?
>>68855194
Think of her as a samurai. If she doesn't have a master her life lacks purpose. So every lord she meets deserves her honor.
>>68855194
>I don't even remember why brienne is so dedicated to catlyn stark. Didn't they know each other for like 20 seconds?
Absolute shit writing.
>>68852533
Tywin was realistically unbeatable.
He won, outplayed everybody and nobody was on his level.
>>68855543
Nah I could beat him
>>68855753
Sure, wait until he's dead littlefinger
>>68855543
It was pottery how his only weakness was his greatest quality, in his eyes.
>>68850628
He was playing the long con. He was planted in Winterfell to rescue Sansa when the time came.
>>68853306
>clearly portrayed as a bad thing
>normalization of rape
>>68852799
Mentally, yes.
Physical wounds heal, mental ones do not
>>68856189
Oh so Theons dick will grow back?
>>68853241
>ramsay
>king
>>68850628
They needed a beta cuck nu-male orbiter for Sansa, so they "empowered him" to fit this role perfectly.
Notice how he sacrifices everything for her, without making her look weak? Just like how a male should act in 2016, apparently.
>Sansa gets saved by another woman, who also has a beta nu-male orbiter
Why does every woman in this show have one? Jesus fucking christ.
>Muh dragons: multiple orbiters
>Sansa: a dickless orbiter
>Giantess: a big dicked orbiter
>Red bitch: a king orbiter, but now that he's dead, suddenly the fingerless orbiter likes her and is completely on her side for no reason at all
>Cersei: a one handed orbiter
>Arya: Le fat orbiter, Le bastard orbiter, le face changing orbiter
>You know nothing le Jon Snow xD: Barbarian orbiters, Jon Snow orbiter
>Smirk-fu: brother orbiter, now a kingly orbiter
Seriously, the only non-orbiters and actual alphas are all dead. Ned, Geoffrey, the MC Night's Watch characters, Rob Stronk, etc.
>>68856189
>mental ones do not
This is just what pharmacy culture teaches people; that they're helpless to overcome evil that has been visited upon them.
>>68853306
totally okay:
>burning kids alive
>pushing kids off towers
>crushing a guys head with your bare hands
>torturing someone for months until they are destroyed psychologically
>cutting off a guys dick and sending it to his family
>beheading someone and stitching a wolfs head to their shoulders
>beating and shooting whores with a crossbow
>woman walking down the street naked while people throw shit at her
not okay:
>non-consensual sex
kek
>>68856794
>Why does every woman in this show have one?
It's pretty much how Martin writes his "romances." Relationships in ASoIaF are either arranged, or an example of pussy-whipped. Fat guy is probably into femdom.
>>68856794
follow me through the freezing water m'lady
>>68856794
Sand Snakes don't really have one, but Dorne sucks anyhow.
Fuck I just realized now with the Sand Snakes in charge of Dorne, there are fucking FIVE female-centric plot lines this season.
>>68856922
>we'll get dry eventually
brilliant
>>68853127
Why the fuck does she not get her teeth fixed? I mean completely replaced or sth.?
Do brits really like their crooked teeth?
>>68856953
I'm not even some woman hating neck beard, yet I'm considering dropping the show this season because of all this empowerment.
I mean what the fuck, 90% of the cast are female now and there's only one active ruler on the show who's a male.
>Tullys disappeared
>All the Northern houses disappeared
>Greyjoys disappeared
>But let's make sure we show empowered sand snek matriarchy!
>>68856953
Wow... what will you ever do without a shit ton of half naked men leading plot lines? Maybe you'll just have to go straight.
>>68857294
>lesbian gulag running wild
>>68857294
"Boo hooo.... not enough MEN for my taste on a show I like. I need men, men, and MORE men leading my plotlines."
Yeah, you're not gay or anything.
>>68857385
Its just not realistic. The men die like its nothing and the female plot armor is so thick
>>68856922
how did they not get frostbite?
>>68857469
plot armor and feminism
>>68857385
You forgot to call me a virgin, mention how I'm probably fat, and I live in my parents basement.
Step it up, Tumblr!
>>68857285
What is to fix?
>>68854304
>Bad writing
>Bad writing
I'm guessing you're the good writer.
>>68856977
but how did the dogs crossed? and why would theon know which way to go?
>>68857669
GRRM has no real experience to go from since he's such a genetic disaster. He doesn't really know how normal people interact and it shows in the books and now the producers on hbo are fucked
>>68857385
>D&D can write interesting female characters
the only decent ones are the old hag and cercei
>>68852278
To be fair she was nearly dying of hypothermia.
>>68852533
>tywin
>antagonist
literally what
>>68857982
stop whiteknighting her if anything her erect nipples made her more aerodynamic
>>68852826
Wait a minute...
>>68851016
What is dick may never die
>>68858297
You're laying on the cold surgical table when you feel it pumping and waddling around your stomach. You know you're gonna die but you can't contain a smile thinking of when a small Daisy will come out of your guts, squishing your internal organs and splitting your torso like a knife cuts through butter. For a split second before you consciousness fades away you see it: a beautiful small Daisy smirking at you, her little vicious face covered in your own blood. This is how being loved feels.
>>68853922
Banesworth?
where can i stream this episode?
not hbogo
>>68857469
They probably had a tent nearby with a spaceheater, not to mention the Paramedics on standby, so the actors weren't in any danger.
>>68857385
You're the real fucking faggot here.
>All strong, noble and mature men to aspire to and look up to are dead or gone
>Show panders to the lowest common denominator of human trash now after D&D deviated away from the books and made it all fanfiction tier garbage yet homosexuals such as yourself still watch it
>I'll keep watching these stronk womyn and feminist icons so I can aspire to be a cockless wonder myself
>>68859031
He's supposed to be this deprecit and emaciated fuck in the books. He's the one that should need the saving, not the other way around.
>>68857734
um hes lived in the north for a very long time, im sure he knows which way to go when theyre 30minutes away from winterfell
>>68856977
I swear to god what you are meant to do in that situation is get naked and roll around in the snow. That is the best thing to dry off. Not sure what you are meant to do about the wet clothes though.
>>68857385
If that actually made some believable strong female characters instead of just showing us a bunch of cunts talking about their pussies and running spears through people's faces we wouldn't be complaining.
The three strongest females in the entire series are Cersei, Catelyn and Brienne. There doesn't have to be anyone else. They're already believable, except Brienne is kind of pushing it.
>>68859782
Why is she pushing it, she is an ugly giant woman from a noble family. Her looks would have calloused her growing up, and she would have had the financial means to train properly how to fight like a knight.
>>68859774
Burn them?
>>68859874
They're throwing away her little love thing she's supposed to be having with Jamie in the Riverlands because muh stronk female character don't need no man.
>>68856922
>that grimace he makes when the cold water hits the hole where his dick used to be
>>68858459
but only rise again
harder and longer
>>68859774
If you don't have access to a fire to dry the clothes and no snow-drifts large enough to make shelter in(which the hacks running the show certainly didn't provide) then there's no point in drying yourself off, and you should just keep the clothes on and keep moving, counting on the bodyheat generated by the movement drying them out before you die.
Wet clothes aren't even a problem when we're talking about a universe where they're most likely wearing wool. Just the cold chilling them down to start with. Which again makes movement the best option, probably. If the hounds hadn't showed up they'd have just frozen to death sitting under the tree.
>>68860325
the dogs would smell the scent on the clothes. She would have to get totally and 100%NAKED. Of course, D & D could never have this
>>68856794
Nigga the show is based on the mediaeval age, back then women were almost a property
>>68857385
You think you're getting something aligning with your political beliefs, but you're really getting a bunch of teleporting women with plot armor and a female knight who is supposed to be a tragic character but is now a CIS male slaying independent womyn.
>>68856794
Jesus, are you seriously too stupid to spot Davos' motivations when they literally spelled it out for you?
His view on Melisandre is that he thinks she's dangerous and ultimately a bad influence, but is nonetheless loyal to Stannis and currently an asset.
He doesn't like her, and would no doubt kill her if he knew what she did, but he does respect her ability and loyalty.
I'm genuinely curious as to how you missed that one.
what a bunch of fucking fan fiction that episode was
>>68853558
Being desperate to be anti-sjw is just as bad as being desperate to be pc all the time. He obviously raped her. The show did not glorify or "normalize" it though and that's where the people who got upset about that scene were wrong. When the edgiest and most outwardly evil character in the show does something awful it's just business as usual.
>>68857294
I don't mind it because, intentionally written or not, they're almost all fucking incompetent aside from Brienne. Even then, Brienne is deliberately shown to not be a one woman army.
>Dany
Wild ride to nowhere and fucks up literally everything she tries to rule
>Cersei
Caused a contnentwide clusterfuck due to being too stupid to see her own lack of power, and recently made the most full retard level obvious backfiring plot in the show
>Sand Sneks
Pulled off a pants-on-head retarded plot that's going to see them all horribly murdered, one way or another
>Yara
busy recovering from 20 good men related killer disorder, and her manipulation and dickwaving with Theon directly caused the Roose to let loose
>Margaery and Olenna Tyrell
Literally the only competent female rulers
Compare that to the like of Tywin, Varys, CIA, Jeor, etc.
Who are the only strong independent women on GoT, these from Dorne?
>>68850628
WAS IT RAPE?
>>68860482
This is actually a largely a myth. Nobility (granted like Sansa) were subject to arranged marriages and had to abide by courtier life but that was a minority of people. Among the peasantry and freemen classes society was more or less equal as much as a Christian society can be.
The gender divide is a later development reinforced by Victorian revisionism like the idea of Chivalry being anything but mounted combat.
>>68861033
WHOOPS
>>68860884
she was his wife. He's the leader. He couldnt become yet another dickless cuck
>>68850628
Well he always wanted to fuck and marry sansa, seeing his waifu get raped by litrall human trash made him grow a spine. But yeah, i agree the change was way to quick in the show. In a perfect world we get more scenes with theon going through personal growth instead of le meme midget memeing.
when drogo died nobody gave a fuck about dany
and now suddenly she doesnt know the customs of the dothraki after living with them for years?
>>68852818
I wish she was this pretty in real life. On casual photos she's always wearing some crap and has hairdos that do her favors.
>>68852824
Yeah, that was so fucking retarded. What's sadder is that someone in the editing room saw that and said 'yup, looks good'
>>68855543
He got poisoned and would have died anyway
Olenna out fucking skilled him
>>68861256
She's pretty irl faggot
>>68852533
>blaming GRRM for the stupid shit the show does that isn't anything like the books
>not blaming David Benioff and D. B. Weiss
>>68861326
Why do all the GoT leads have such weak titty game?
>>68861382
Those are some succulent titties pham
>>68861033
Legally - no. But even back then if your wife cried everytime you fuck her, people would probably give you an odd look
>>68861380
>Implying I don't blame the jews for that hilarious over the top preggo stabbing at the red wedding every day
There is no "back then"
It's an entirely different world. Fags do this talking about LOTR too. It's not history, it's fantasy.
>>68861326
This is one of her better looks, desu. I also liked the one she appeared in during the latest premier - the one with the braid.
>>68861475
Ok, then, 'back in the times the author was heavily inspired by'. Does that make your raging autism feel better?
>>68861475
Almost all of Cersei's motivations and actions are fueled by living in a patrilineal society you moron. It's a major theme that men > women.
>>68861550
Nothing makes my autism feel better
>>68861477
This one?
>>68850628
What gets me even if they didn't and he was a snivelling faggot who caved the second they approached, the same exact result would've happened.
D&D are fucking idiots.
>>68852533
>>68861620
she's not a traditional beauty
>>68861382
Because Ros put them all in their place.
This shit has really gotten cheesy as hell. If this is the best grrm can do then it's over for him.
>>68861710
You know David and D.B. are writing this shit themselves from this point on. Don't bullshit.
>>68861733
Yup. Even Agents of Shield has better writing at this point
>>68861733
They're writing within Martin's Guidelines, and they must have access to at least part of the work in progress.
Granted, he might still be working through page 50, given his usual pace, but the point remains.
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>>68850628
>Woman you love dead
>Have to act edgy about it to keep up appearances
>Your wife run away
>Your slave ran away after killing the woman you love
>About to be replaced as heir because your father dislikes you
>6 of your 20 good men slaughtered by one woman
JUST
>>68861806
>the work in progress.
>>68861806
He's already told them the whole story along with the ending.
That's how adaptions work.
>>68861806
They say that, but he's only really told them how it ends. He's a "write as I go" type and last I heard he didn't really take notes.
They've been making shit up as they went along since a Jaime went to Dorne.
He grew a pair.
>>68850628
I'm betting money they throw Sansa and him together because D and D love Eunic romance
>>68861848
thats not how it works. See : TWD
>>68861806
>They're writing within Martin's Guidelines
Nigga please. If they were working with any more guideline than "Jon is Rhaegar's kid he's in it at the end" we wouldn't have Dorne managing to be WORSE than book-Dorne.
>>68861848
Not this time. He told them the ending and said they can do whatever they want as long as it comes to that ultimate conclusion. He even said that the show was their story from then on, while he did his own shit with the books (nothing, but still).
>>68861859
>They've been making shit up as they went along since a Jaime went to Dorne.
it showed.
she doesnt need to be smart to get fucked in the ass
>>68861906
It depends on how badly they're planning on mangling the plot threads together.
We won't be able to determine what got cut due to time, what got cut due to their feeble attempt to mash plots together, and what got cut due to them being fucking idiots for a while.
>>68861959
That was some quality DnD writing right there.
>>68861885
Is he even a eunuch? I'm honestly not sure if Ramsay cut all of it off, or just flayed the dick and then cut it off after Reek begged.
I mean with everything else flaying was the main thing, with the amputation being a result. Cutting the balls off doesn't serve that same purpose. Also having balls but no dick would be a hundred times more frustrating, which I imagine Ramsay would enjoy.
I can't believe I got hyped up for this.
>>68850628
He saw a chance at redemption and took it rather than stay a broken thing at Ramsay's feet. Makes sense to me.
>>68861980
That was just HBO writing, cocksuckah.
Was there a single good scene in this episode?
>>68862031
All the deus ex events combined
>>68862031
The Wall delivered.
Ser Alliser's motivations not being personal (assuming he's not lying) make for a marked improvement.
>>68862028
What a coincidence! DnD work at HBO.
>>68861620
I meant this. But yours is also good. She should just wear braid all the time
>>68861906
GRRM probably had no clue on how to tie all these characters spread out across a billion continents back to Westeros.
The last two books have characters doing a lot of things but with no end-game hinted at. Here's a list of things we have no idea where it's leading to and therefore just useless shit that exists:
>Bran and trees
>Wargs
>Arya being an assassin
>Sam Tarly at maester school which will take years and couldnt possibly complete before winters over
>Dany shitting herself infront of mongols
>Quentin???
>Tyrion does nothing
>The Hound is a monk?
>The mountain is a zombie
>Horn that controls dragons
>New guy who is also a targaryen attacks westeros
I can't even name all the dull, aimless loose ends that keep piling up in his shitty series.
>oh dear all our ships got burned
are you fucking serious what were their super soldier army doing just sitting there watching
>>68862031
The Wall scenes that didn't involve the watch doing a full 180 because of Thorne saying "dude I never disobeyed and order until I stabbed the lord commander to death!" and "muh wildlings" to suddenly become the new leader.
Also not the scene where they first find Jon's body and carry it off to a room without immediately calling out "TRAITORS! ASSASSINS!" and seizing the moment by rallying the watch to hunt them down, leaving them open to people thinking THEY were the assassins, since they were hanging around in a room with the dead Lord Commander not telling anyone.
>>68861152
I'm not blaming him for railing his wife out either. Doesn't mean it was consensual and he took pleasure in the fact that he got to force his BBC on her.
>>68862160
>Bran and trees
He's delivering backstory we otherwise wouldn't have in a POV series, AND he's interacting with Brynden/the children. He's the opposite of an aimless loose end.
>Wargs
>not catching the importance of warging letting you survive with your mind intact when resurrected in different forms
It's almost as if the book-series is building up to something with some plots, while delivering with other plots.
>>68862229
it was her own fault for not even acting into it. She was warned beforehand multiple times. And, like they say...first time is always the worst. Its just SJW writing by DD
>>68862163
Imagine if D&D had made the CGI department tint the flames green. Suddenly the scene would make perfect sense, and it'd take a second to apply the filter.
>>68862292
Wargs are just more bullshit piled onto a growing clusterfuck of way for people to not die in a series famous for shocking deaths.
Bran and trees still offer nothing, Brynden/the children aren't even established as things that matter.
>>68862445
>the only POV character capable of showing us the history of the world, thus circumventing the restraints of the POV-structure of the books
>offer nothing
>tree-guy who's been a sorcerer for hundreds of years hanging out with children of the forest with a sentient dead guy in a book about dead guys being used as an army which the children historically opposed
Yeah, I'm sure they'll turn out to not matter and should just be cut.
And god forbid that something is built up over more than one book. I mean, we can't possible wait until the third book to kill Robb off! KILL HIM NOW SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE BOOK!
>>68852533
Ramsey is an antagonist, Roose only gets to speak about 3 times per season and normally just shit talks Ramsey when he does making him closer to comic relief than an antagonist.
>>68862697
Yeah the book should've unironically taken four or five books. At what point do you admit that two thousand pages of build-up isn't worth a weak payoff where Bran talks to tree spirits?
>>68862726
I hate that they cut out Roose's sadism. Motherfucker would let Ramsey know that human leather was inferior, clearly speaking from experience.
The actor's doing great in the role, but I hate how they toned him down from the pale softspoken monster he was in the books.
>>68862796
>durr it takes too much reading to get to the finish! Make it faster!
Stop being an ADD-riddled little shit.
>>68852689
bc women
>>68862885
>mfw not a single leech
It's almost as if D&D didn't spot the importance of Roose leeching himself to bleed away the more troublesome psychotic urges before giving himself a treat and flaying someone when he knows nobody can pin it on him, instead of acting on every urge and becoming infamous like Ramsay.
>>68863030
Instead they cut off his inherent madness altogether, effectively making him Replacement Tywin.
>>68862102
Of course he's lying. DND will see to it.
>>68859031
Underrated.
