So basically it's confirmed that he and his master plan are completely fake in the books.
Bookfags BTFO
how does a single stab to the back kill a giant hulking nigger?
>>68691386
in the books he is already three steps ahead of these retards and has them all imprisoned except for one of them
but yea ultimately all of his plans end up failing because of retards, but his super hot daughter is in on the plots and helping to protect him
>>68691532
Feminist blades are more powerful than valyrian steel
>>68691532
H O T A H
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>>68691532
who's wearing armor no less
>>68691386
The sand snakes aren't completely cringe in the books.
>People still think the decisions that D&D make are indicative of what's going to happen in the books
>>68691532
DOUBLE DAGGERS NIGGA
DOUBLES DAGGERS
>>68691532
Feminism.
The show is fan fiction at this point with some of the broad strokes being close to the book .
I think I figured it out
>Dabid where is Dawn going in book
>I dunno, Dan. GRRM hasn't written that much yet, we'll have to come up with something
>Dabid what if DaABID what if sand sneks is kill Hooter and Doren and take control of Dawn
>Yes, Dan! Then we can have a CGI battle where they attack Lannister/Tyrells and lose! Then we don't need to worry about it!
>SNEKS!!! HISS!!
Basically they want to wrap up all of Dorne and they'll achieve this with some terrible battle like they did with Stannis.
Goddamn it.
I fucking loved Areo.
>>68691532
contrary to popular belief, a stab to the spine will fuck up anybody, even the hardiest of the negro tribes
>>68691386
>mfw when they killed off the best doctor
B O O K F A G S
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>>68691386
FUCK
I was so wishing he would find out about the poison and kill those sand niggresses.
>>68691783
If you want that claim to hold any weight, you're going to need a new book some time this decade
>>68692165
Not so Mary Sue now, eh? Some super soldier.
I love watching bookfags get blown the fuck out. Literally jerking off to your angst.
>>68691386
The most fucking retarded thing they've ever done in this show.
The head whore of the heir to the throne and his bastard children just successfully staged a coup. It's literally fucking retarded.
>>68691386
FUCK YOU D&D I HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH IM LITERALLY CRYING RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yall do know the books are gonna be wildly different than season 6 and 7 right?
Right?
>>68691532
you say that as if it was a bad thing
>>68692270
I love how he has one loyal guard, ONE
For fucks sake, even Ramsey had his 20 good men
>>68692336
LOL WHAT BOOKS
>>68692336
Probably going to end the same way, anyway.
>Areo Hotah is so fucking incompetent he can't even ensure that the ruler of Dorne has a single loyal guard
D&D confirmed racists
>>68692336
I think it's not the way the plotline will go in the books, but yeah books won't happen.
>>68692270
>>68692396
Wait, it isn't even the heir. There was Doran's son, and Oberyn was dead. This whore and the bastard children shouldn't even be allowed near the main quarters of the palace, Dornish customs be dammed.
>>68691532
How did Prince Dr. Bashir change his outfit between getting stabbed and hitting the ground?
How did the Sneks teleport?
>Angry that Oberyn was killed.
>Honor his memory by wiping out his entire family.
Do D&D seriously expect us to believe that the Dornish are going to give the throne to a bunch of bastards who just killed the royal family in response to another member of the royal family being killed?
>>68692336
Yeah the show will exist and the books won't. If it's not the Jets then George ain't writing shit about it.
Show Dorne has absolutely no resemblance to the books.
>no Arianne Martell
>no Quentyne Martell
>no Darkstar
>make Trystane the only child of Doran and also an adult
>Doran a clueless idiot led around by the Sand Snakes instead of being several steps ahead of them and nipping all their plans in the bud
>Areo Hotah a big dumb nigger who dies to a tiny woman instead of an invincible long-axe wielding bad ass
>plot to crown Myrcella cooked up by Arianne and the Sand Snakes plus Darkstar and some other nobles now turned into a plot to assassinate Myrcella, and only the Sand Snakes are involved because none of the other characters exist
They fucked up Dorne so hard in the show and are just digging the hole deeper.
>>68692661
>>no Darkstar
THANK CHRIST
>>68692651
>>68692575
>>68692501
>>68692418
Do yall seriously think books 6 and 7 won't come out? Is it just some excuse to be okay with the shit writing in the show?
>>68692618
did you miss where they killed the heir too?
>>68692727
Book 6 has a good chance of coming out. Book 7 not so much.
>>68692727
I think 6 maybe in 2-3 years, 7 won't.
>>68692336
>he thinks Martin is actually going to waste his time finishing the books when all the big plot points, including the ending, will be spoiled in the show years before he even finishes book 6
![29A0A48900000578-3124072-image-a-39_1434347113898[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7un1TgD.jpg "29A0A48900000578-3124072-image-a-39_1434347113898[1].jpg")
>yfw too old
>>68692661
Theres literally no reason for show Dorne to exist since they ignored all the other plotlines connected to it.
Book Dorne has so many unresolved treads that it actually justifies its existence, but in the show you had Myrcella there, and thats all. Now you don't. Wasn't it just a waste of money to shoot Dornish scenes then, since nothing will come from it?
honest question to fellow bookfags, do you really think GRRM can wrap up all plot points that he made within two books?i mean even the hightower plot hasn't been solved yet so i don't know if he can do it
>>68691386
Lol at all the angry neckbeards and MRAS,are you butthurt because FINALLY the show has some badass women like the sand snakes and tough warriors like Brienne that you are being threatened?
Grow up, seriously, you are on the wrong side of history, this episode was absolutely fantastic
.
>mfw gurm is deliberately sabotaging D&D.
>>68692827
>>68692842
>>68692853
So yall are just shills who are okay with the show. My bad.
>>68692727
The show writing is shit and the books never coming out is no excuse for it being shit, but yes, there will be no more books.
Bookfags were already blown out by George long ago when they realized he'd never finish ASoIaF. Even if he wanted to (which he clearly doesn't anymore) he's almost 70, morbidly obese, and has made plans for his notes and unfinished work to be destroyed if (when) he dies before finishing.
>>68692651
>You killed Doran?
Yes
>Because someone else killed his younger brother?
Yes
>And you were upset that he didn't immediately wage war against these people who are economically and military superior, several times over
Yes
>And you are now wiping out the few surviving members of the family of the man you are trying to avenge
Yes
Tywin is probably laughing in the seven hells that one disposable grunt (The Mountain) has literally decimated an entire kingdom just by smashing a fucking head.
>>68692821
They're even further from the throne post his death though, aren't they?
>>68691386
GoT is officially below true blood tier now
Why did they even case Doran (with a good, known actor no less) only to give him like five scenes total and probably fifteen minutes of screentime? What a dumb decision. What a dumb plot. D&D went full retard with Dorne.
>>68692987
BABY FUCK BABY FUCK BABY FUCK IT'S AWWWWWWWWWWWRIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
>>68692956
I think he COULD, but as for what he'll actually do, I have my doubts. Just like he COULD have written this book in half the time, yet here we are, 5 years later.
>>68691386
Now watch the Sand Sneks take Connington role.
>>68692987
Thus proving that women are ultimately unfit to rule.
>>68692821
>>68693090
Point being, they aren't royal blood, they're bastards. So their semblance of connection to the throne of Dorne should be even more severed now than before, right?
>>68692987
topkek
GOT is Walking Dead-tier
>>68693276
>Aegon Targaryen is actually female but they hid even that fact to protect her
The snake bitches would be hunt down, rapes and killed in first hour after they killed the beloved prince
>all that wasted time
>>68691532
Fem power
>no evidence throughout entire series that suggests he's not a decent man and ruler until this scene
>none of his elite guard, the loyal of the loyal, even flinch or try help him
brilliant
>>68693291
Yes. Dorne does have a special primogeniture law that allows women to inherit and rule, but as with the rest of the Seven Kingdoms that only applies to legitimate offspring, not bastards. Ellaria cannot even claim rulership by marriage because she never actually married Doran. She was his "paramour" only.
Just wait and see how D&D spin it so they end up leading an army though.
I can't believe Gregor Clegane successfully destroyed an entire great house
>mfw double daggers tries to teleport behind Robert Strong and do for him as she did Hotah
>mfw Robert Strong re-enacts the facial reconstruction of Oberyn Martell on his daughters
>>68693476
>married Doran
Meant Oberyn, not Doran.
>>68693362
Killing the Martells and Hotah was stupid. But it was not as stupid as the Dornish guards standing by and letting it happen and apparenrly agreeing with Ellaria the bastard. We are just supposed to believe they always hated Doran and that Dorne will actually rally around bastards women with literally no claim to anything? D&D didn't really read the books did they? I feel like they heard about the series and read up on its wiki and so they don't understand accurate characterizarion at all and just know certain plot points to hit.
>>68693476
>D-DABID WHAT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER ARMY LED BY WOMEN??
>you mean.. other than Mother of Dragons??
>YES DABID, THINK ABOUT IT. THE STRONG WOMEN OF DORNE STAB THE PRINCE AND TAKE OVER. THEN DABID, THEY DECLARE WAR AGAINST LANNISTERS. DABID!!
>*david shakes uncontrollably and ejaculates immediately*
>master strategist reduced to powerless fool to advance plots that make no sense
Sounds familiar
>>68692972
Spot the feminist.
Fuck off.
>>68693605
Yeah the more time goes on the more I'm convinced they read book 1 then just read the wiki summaries
>>68692026
The Mary Sue powers. Fuck everything about the Dorn story
>>68693365
Doran was not universally loved in the books even. Many of his bannermen thought him weak and ineffectual, just like the Sand Snakes and Arianne did. Because that was his game, playing the feeble, meek prince of Dorne while plotting to bring down the Baratheons and Lannisters. Everything Oberyn did was part of helping Doran's plans to avenge and reinstall the Targaryens.
But in Sunspear at least, he was respected and obeyed without question. The idea that his guards would betray him is unthinkable.
>>68693431
It's like poetry.
>>68693682
the noble houses would still never just let his bastard nieces murder him and his heir, the whole plot is ridiculous and I bet they'll get away with it because wimminz power
>>68693682
>Oberyn was the viper, I was the grass
vs
>BAD POOSY
>>68692892
>but in the show you had Myrcella there, and thats all.
There's also Oberyn and Elia Martell you dumb fuck
>>68691532
Why is the sky blue?
Why is water wet?
Was Trystane on the boat? WTF
>>68691386
IN THE BOOKS HE TELLS HER ALL ABOUT HIS PLAN LOL SHOWFAGS BTFO
>IN THE BOOKS HE TELLS HER ALL ABOUT HIS PLAN LOL SHOWFAGS BTFO
IN THE BOOKS HE TELLS HER ALL ABOUT HIS PLAN LOL SHOWFAGS BTFO
>IN THE BOOKS HE TELLS HER ALL ABOUT HIS PLAN LOL SHOWFAGS BTFO
>>68693764
Yeah I fully expect them to get away with it int he show despite that not making any sense at all. Because every powerful noble house has rivals. I think the Martell's biggest rival is House Yronwood, and I bet they would just LOVE to learn that every member of the Martell family was just laid low by traitorous bastard women. Perfect opportunity to swoop in and "avenge the beloved Prince" and claim power for themselves.
In fact there would be like 2 or 3 houses planning to do exactly that. If GRRM were writing it anyway. Not that he'd have written a shitty scene like that to begin with.
>>68693642
>>68693642
i'm a showfag, is he really a "master strategist"?
>>68693861
Why did Judas rat to Romans while Jesus slept?
>>68691386
BASED DND SAVING US FROM SHITTY WRITING
>>68693918
Not really, but he is known to be good.
>>68691595
That was the most shocking death in the series for me.
the books wont be finished lol
the show will show you the true end!
>>68693795
they are all dead now, what's the point?
>>68693918
YES, read: https://warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/a-complete-analysis-of-stannis-baratheon-as-a-military-commander/
I might seriously drop this show because of how fucking retarded Dorne is. There's no way any feudal country would allow something like that to happen.
>>68693918
no its all reddit headcanon
pic of trystane killed?
>>68693866
Didn't understand that part. Where was Trystane the last time? I totally forgot I guess.
>>68694129
Inb4 complete shit ending, and everyone begging Martin to finish the books. He won't though, and we will be left with that.
>>68693918
He's been planning to bring back the Targs for over a decade. He's been tracking Dany's movements and sent his eldest son, Quentyn (who doesn't exist in the show) with a party of trusted men to meet up with Dany. Long term plan: marry Quentyn to Dany. Short term plan: begin planning her return to Westeros with House Martell acting as inside collaborators.
In the books Quentyn actually meets Dany but being the stupid cunt she was she laughed at him and didn't pay him any attention cause she was too busy riding Daario's cock. Then he got burnt to death by dragonfiresupposedly.
Aside from that, he proved his cleverness by seeing through his eldest child's plan to kidnap Myrcella Lannister and crown her queen using Dorne's primogeniture law, which states the eldest child inherits regardless of sex. Since Myrcella is older than Tommen, under Dornish law she would inherit the throne. Obviously that'd never fly but Arianne and the Sand Snakes supporting her were not particularly clever and just wanted to stir up trouble.
Which is why Doran easily predicted what they'd do and wrecked all their shit.
>>68693957
Judas did nothing wrong
>>68693605
Hey guys . . . uh . . . guys
These chicks are killing the head of the ruling house of Dorne.
You're his guards, you might want to, you know, stop them or something?
>>68694024
>taking out the interesting characters and leaving the boring ones is good writing
Sand Snakes everywhere in this bitch
>>68694184
Shit, thought you were talking about Stannis, not Doran.
>>68694253
you dont get it
his faggot brother that is never there and is roaming the world was killed
and they feel strange kingship to him, so they feel bunch of nags are right...
Only reason to continue watching this is to see Davos and Resurrected Jon wreck the shit out the traitors.
>>68694234
Quentyn was even bigger retard, his plan to kindnap the dragons was pure comedy gold.
>>68691555
> Forgetting to mention that his daughter is as much of a retard and also a literal whore.
Ok, anon, sure
>>68691783
>The sand snakes aren't completely cringe in the books.
But they're mostly cringe in the books.
George could only barely make them work in the books, and not very well. It never could've worked on screen.honestly. Just like how over the top the Hound is in the books.
>>68694253
A single stab from a fucking dagger right into one of the more massive muscles in his body, the latissimus dorsii.
That would just result in a bleeding, angry, 300lbs hulking nigger turning around, grabbing her by the neck and crashing her on the floor.
What the fuck.
>>68692336
Yeah, they are gonna be non-existant.
>>68694253
If they wanted to show his guards turning on him, they could've had the guards killed that messenger.
But no, they had to show the empowered womyn snipe him with a knife while the guards did jack shit.
>>68692622
Bad writing, anon. The answer is always bad writing
S5 last ep made it seem like he was going to Kings Landing. Sand Snakes watching from far away. Then half of them teleport and kill him
>They killed off all the good Dronish characters (and Trystane)
>Sandshits still have more screentime to come
Triggered tá Žbh
>>68693957
Stand up, you're outta luck like two dogs stuck
>>68694373
8 minutes out of 50 to see a plot advance at a painfully slow pace. I'm not sure it's worth it.
>>68694579
Maybe by the end of the season we'll have 50 minutes of good wall shit.
>>68694539
16:00 Episode 9 Season 5. King says the prince is going with them. Next episode you see him getting on the boat. Sand snakes are all on docks.
Is the entire Dorne story line just written by some second awful team?
>>68691386
Nobody cares about Dorne except AFFCfags who are themselves reviled within the ASoIaF fan community.
Is Quentyn and Arianne in show?
Dorne could turn out to be Quentyn and Arianne with the Lords of Dorne wanting to avenge Doran and Tristane vs Sand snekz and the people of Dorne wanting to avenge Oberyn.
It's a lil complicated for D&D but what are your thought /got/
>>68691386
why waste such a good actor for only 20 minutes of scenes combined?
>>68694627
One CGI battle episode doesn't make up for an ocean of boring shit plots.
>>68694649
I think it's gonna be sneky-snakes go to war with Cersei over Oberyn and everyone in Dorne follows along because why the fuck not?
>What I hoped for
Sand Snake massacred after Marcelas death
tits and jew nose one left in prison having exposition to explain the plan of Dorn story line focus on scheming and planning for Deneris return with Targerian that the Spider serves. He got burned and story collapses but it would be fun
>instead I got
snakes taking over, tits didnt even show tits
I suspect because my ideal version would open just another story line to be followed
and it feels spread all over as is, probably producers know that average /tv/ retard cant follow that much of it
>>68693192
Haven't head this one in years
I used to just dislike Dorne because the snakes were played by bad actors and the idea of them was stupid anyway. Now I dislike it BECAUSE LITERALLY NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY FUCKING SENSE, BASTARD WOMEN AND THEIR WHORE MOM SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THE FUCKING PALACE OR NEAR RIVAL DYNASTY MEMBERS FFS.
>>68694715
That should say Bolton tb-h
>>68694792
what does it mean?
What's the link though?
>>68691532
She didn't do it in the right spot but it is certainly possible to kill anyone with a single stab to the back.
>>68694572
thank you anon, i was wondering if anyone on /tv/ would get this
Does anyone else want to impregnate bad pussy?
>>68694995
Anything to keep her from attempting acting for 15 minutes.
>>68691386
hasn't TV show been known to be non-canon for like years now?
anyway, I'm proclaiming this episode best prank of 2016 by far thanks D&D
>>68691386
women can't into edginess
>>68695059
dont be a cunt
we cant judge acting when she got those dialog and that character...
do you think meryl streep would play it better you tard.. or whoever you think is a good actress..
>>68694488
HSSSSSSS
>>68694641
I'm getting my book and show story lines/characters all mixed up. Who was that that killed him because the room they did it in sort of looked like it could have been on a ship.
>>68693652
> being this easily baited
>>68694579
Tyrion and Varys wandering aimlessly around Meereen is really comfy, though.
>>68694488
I was genuinely expecting this.
Then I felt genuine disgust.
>>68691386
Even if true, it would cost too much money to do it on TV. D&D are pretty much off the rails at this point. They might even cook u[ a different ending than the books.Not like the books will ever be finished.
>>68694539
HISS... nothin' personnel... kid...
>>68691532
Don't the Martells use poisoned blades?
Why the fuck wouldn't Trystan be under guard by Jaime? Or floating at the bottom of the sea after Jaime smashed his face in?
>>68694887
Er, not sure if asking or meme-ing. It's from some hentai comic where a guy impregnates a girl, pulls out her not yet born child from her womb, rapes the baby to death, then puts it in a blender and makes the woman he raped drink it. She seems devastated on the surface but she really liked it deep down inside. I'd give you the name but I don't know it, it's probably more interesting than Game of Thrones S6 so far.
>>68694790
were those CGI nipples too?
>>68695656
Yes, but poison takes time to circulate through the body. When Joffrey was poisoned it took a bit for it to set in, it apparently took a long time for it to set in with Marcella. Same with Braun when he was cut by one of the Sneks. It's D&D though, so you can't expect much consistency or sense.
OK so wait, isn't the Sand Snakes retardation easily explained by them being tired of waiting for change and think the old guard are weak and stupid?
>>68693764
>Dorne
>Noble
Fucking jump off a bridge you showfag hack.
>>68696053
Dorne does have houses what the fuck are you talking about
>>68695987
how does throwing their own fiefdom into complete chaos help them get back at the lannisters?
>>68691386
The whole plot is going to be so pointless. You have two of the most hateable and fucked up girls on the show who want to murder each other. Its going to waste literally hours of the season on pointless crap.
>>68696135
Alright..wait..wait hang on..uh...hmmm
>>68695220
Learn to fucking type you faggot.
Heh I'm going to wait for the dl and watch the show in peace.
Later I'll post in a low traffic comfy thread while all the plebs crowd and step all over each other
Normies are so predictable, keep staying up to date on a TV show cucks. I'm sure it'll pay off some time in the near.. never
>>68693528
Completely forgot about Robert strong. If he kills the sand snakes too, he's officially a god of westeros
>>68696391
>..
back to plebbit normie
I know this is 4chan, and GoT being the social phenomenon it is you're bound to get shitty opinions but wow was I impressed with how true the first flood of posts were - this shit is laughable at best. First a 300+ pound 6/7 black guy goes down from one stabbing, then a price is killed in his own court with a 3 inch long dagger? And nevermind breanne, who can take 4 armed men out on horseback but it's okay if she falls on her ass once or twice.
Fuck this shit and fuck me for wasting time torrenting it. It's not even a matter of "womyn power" it's a matter of "hey lots of housewifes and pretend nerd girls watch our show, lets say FUCK OFF to all sublety and realism and turn it into a whee women arent we KEEN jerkfest"
>>68691532
He was big guy...
I have no problem with them writing it as a female uprising, they just picked porn stars who can't act to play the leading roles.
My god, one of those female beggars in the Tyrion scenes would do a much better job.
This episode had cool things that happened, bute 95% of it was garbage.
I just.. don't understand why they even want to kill Doran and Trystane. They were Oberyn's family. Who gets mad at the Lannisters and murders their own family?
>>68694225
Trystane accompanied them to kings landing to fill the open seat on the small council
>>68696670
because bad pussy
>>68696726
And where the fuck was he killed at?
>>68692983
>brought on assistant at this point to help him finish book 6, at the least.
>book 6 manuscript being translated in 5+ other languages via publishers in said countries
not finished, finished, close to, who knows, but those are the facts at least...
>>68696115
Doesn't mean they're noble you stupid mother fucker. They don't give a shit about Bastards and they hated Doran. They're a bunch of fightin and fuckin bisexuals that poison each other. Rebelling against the crown is what the Dornish want to do after the Lannister's killed their princess and extincted the family that they had sworn fealty to out of a respectful agreement. They were never conquered by the crown. THey didn't owe it anything. Oberyn's bastard daughters seizing control to declare themselves independent from the crown is the most Dornish shit ever.
>>68696830
This post
>>68696726
Trystane was in the boat, but the sand snakes were not. then they were and killed him at the harbor in King's Landing. Because they flew in a fucking airplane.
>>68691386
Of course it's fake, obviously the entire world is a holosuite program to amuse based Bashir
Kevan and Pycelle confirmed for DOUBLE DAGGERS now.
>>68691532
I assume he was stabbed in the spine
>russian subs only everywhere
>>68695987
Unless they were being backed by the nobles and the serfs (which, in any realistic situation, they certainly would not have been) they're just ruining everything in Dorne, causing a power gap that'll breed a shit ton of infighting and instability and ruining their own ties to the throne. The Snakes and their whore mother are retarded, and the people of Dorne are as well in the D&D version of ASoIaF (not that they weren't backwards in the books too).
>>68693528
>mfw double daggers tries to teleport behind Robert Strong and do for him as she did Hotah
>mfw he breaks his vow of silence to teleport behind HER and let her know it's nothing personnel
>>68692622
Doran knows how go glamour. He's alive.
>>68696963
>Because they flew in a fucking airplane.
They must have borrowed it from CIA.
>how he die so fast do?
Too many types of poisons to go over. Some act fast, some act slow. At least one of his daughters has studied poisons. (the one with the nice tits)
>all dis feminism
Yea, from a show watching pov, it looks annoying. But that is exactly how it would happen true Dornish fashion.
>They fucked that storyline up.
Fan of both books and show, or just a fan of the show, you're absolutely right. I won't argue how convoluted it looks from any pov.
>>68695677
Because the show runners have no one to tell them their shit's stupid and to make sense before going into production.
The best excuse I can come up with is after his betrothed ended up dead he decided it was best to return (knowing how Cerci would react), while Jamie brought his daughter back. And I guess got assassinated in the harbour when he arrived back. The whole timelines between events this season are fucked too. Usually there are weeks/months between things, but we have direct same-day things and then this being days later at best tacked on for shock value.
tl;dr The showrunners forgot to hire someone to ensure continuity.
>>68696115
Daynes and Yronwoods are cut. They as well have no houses
>>68697212
>Too many types of poisons to go over. Some act fast, some act slow. At least one of his daughters has studied poisons. (the one with the nice tits)
>Stabbed
>Immediately fall over and die
Sure.
>>68696486
Brienne beating people is acceptable, her character is just a bit insufferable and you're right about the poorly choreographed fighting. She is established as a very powerful and dominant fighter in-universe though, a genetic freak of a woman.
House Martell
- - - - - -
JUSTED. KEKED. EXTINCT.
>>68691783
oh, they're cringe in the books, though, in the books, they're a fucking nuisance and the most they were able to accomplish was the princess getting her ear sliced off and a manipulated kingsguard heaved in two.
Darkstar and Co was blamed for the incident, but if I recall, the sandsnakes were suspected, and are now on the run/imprisoned again.
They were useless cunts in the book, but the book made that clear as day because of the internal monologues.
Kind of how everyone around Dany knows she's making AWFUL choices, but never say it, just thought it.
While in the show, they're well, showing us the bad choices, and trying their fucking best to paint Dany in a good light.
But that wouldn't work for the Snakes, they had to actually re-write everything just to make what they're doing seem intelligent, but even they're they're fucking up magnificently
>>68697265
She fought like mother fucking Guts.
>>68697308
Guts wouldn't have fell on his ass and can kill about 100 men on his own.
>>68697257
Hey, it's not TV...It's HBO
>>68693680
I was really looking forward to the dornish master plan
>>68696937
>>68696830
Then maybe its the unbelievable aspect of how retarded the Dornish are. They benefit form being under the imperial rule, they have no way of fighting back, and killing each other is just weakening their realm. If you want to blame it on their emotions and how much pride they have, fine. But I'll counter and say the Dornish are just poorly written and acted people, whose plot lines have no significant meaning now other than the fact that they killed Myrcella. They could've been much better but we're lead to assume everyone there is just fucking retarded, pun intended.
>>68697418
That would include the other two dragons, and the plot with or against Dany (however that was supposed to play out), and Myrcella's chipped ear, and more than just 3 bastard sandsnakes...yeah
>>68693764
They will blame the Lannisters. It showed them kill the witnesses.
>>68697422
D&D butchered their story.
>>68697116
>cant afford paid television
poorfags are keks as always
>>68697308
She ain't Guts level. She is a good fighter though, so I don't have any problem with her beating 6 good men with the help of Tri-Pod and Dickless of the Iron Isles. I do think they fuck up her fight scenes pretty regularly though. In the books it's much easier to believe she's a top-tier fighter, in the show it looks like she stumbles to victory a lot.
>>68694488
SNEKED!
I didn't like where the show was going during midway through season 4 and I REALLY don't like where it's going now.
>hotah having no fight scenes entire series wtf
>ellaria is dorkstar
>wasting dr bashir with no master plan
>house martell is extinct
>arianne & aegon story cut
DABID TELEPORTING SNEKS DABID
>>68697308
kill yourself weeb
>>68691532
Despite what they want you to think, niggers die just as easily as everyone else.
>>68697489
Which will make the Dornish look even worse. If they really believe the sand snake bastards then they're basically acknowledging that none of them have the foresight to seek information from other sources. D&D are just ruining a whole pov.
>>68694922
Unless you sever the spine no way in hell is it gonna be instant and with his armor the force it would take to accomplish that with a small dagger certainly isn't coming from an 80 pound woman's stick arms.
>>68697635
Just curious, but did anything this episode live up to those past seasons for you, or did it feel like a total train wreck now?
>>68697472
I knew it was fucked from last season, but watching this one reminded me just how butchered the story was.
Sometimes I wonder if GRRM is really just a bad writer and Preston Jacobs is extrapolating those mistakes into a brilliant story. Kind of like what people did with the Star Wars books.
>>68692336
There will be no more books. Mark my words.
>>68697828
Not the same guy but this was quite possibly one of the worst episodes they've put out.
>>68697422
>They benefit form being under the imperial rule
no they don't. They get no assistance against the pirates of the stepstones and they get essentially zero financial or otherwise support. They only swore fealty because they felt bad about killing the King or whatever.
>they have no way of fighting back
YES THEY FUCKING DO. THEY ARE UNCONQUERABLE.
>and killing each other is just weakening their realm.
THEY KILLED 2 PEOPLE TO TAKE CONTROL.
>If you want to blame it on their emotions and how much pride they have, fine
It's more than pride. They don't owe shit to the crown and continuing to support it was only hurting them.
>But I'll counter and say the Dornish are just poorly written
They're going to do the same shit in the books. They've been telegraphing toward that the entire time. I don't think the show executed it well but that doesn't mean you're right in really any of the shit you think you know about the Dornish. Whether or not it is the smartest move or is good for them in the long run is kind of irrelevant. The show and ASOIAF are NOT about people doing the right thing.
>>68697783
Armor? You mean the burnt leathers and robes he was wearing?
>>68697916
Martin isn't responsible for dan and daves dumbassery. Plus I think more could be accomplished in 12-13 episodes as opposed to 10. Something Martin pushed for around season 3 or 4 and they told him no, so THEN he started to concentrate on book 6.
And yes, moral of story, Dorne is fucked in the show, still ok/good in the books
>>68697752
dorne was the worst pov location in the books, so it's not like they're ruining much. the real crime is wasting any screentime on it at all
PRESTON JACOBS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>68694649
>s06ep10
>Sand sneks preparing for war w/ lannisters.
>scream in the court yard, sneks run out.
> whip snek is impaled by halberd, suspended in air
> screen pans to Areo
> "How did you not die!"
> "Silly Girls, I am Areo Hotah, your dagger was merely a bee sting. Now we come for revenge of Doran Martell, the Prince of Dorne"
> Sand sneks stand in horror "We?"
> Arianne and Quentyn appear, with a dozen armed guards.
> "For Doran"
>>68697987
I disagree, I can blindly pick out any 3 episodes from season 5 and say they were the worst.
This one was ok. Other than the dornish story becoming more dicked, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
>>68697996
>and killing each other is just weakening their realm.
>THEY KILLED 2 PEOPLE TO TAKE CONTROL.
in a feudal aristocratic nation that's all it takes to destroy a realm
>>68698119
SHAME!
>>68698103
I'm talking about strictly the books. What if all of the deeper subplots are just extrapolations of unintentional mistakes?
Well, there are enough allusions to his thousand worlds to make me think he really did set up all of the substories
>>68698138
Lmao, d&d are cashing in lol. They don't give a fuck
>>68698210
Given he has (and I'm speculating) what has to be at least a 600-700 page book's worth of private notes not included in the stores (the reason those allusions and missing bits of info to keep you guessing with your own theories as you go along) I'd have to say no, it's intentional.
>>68697783
It wouldn't be instant in the correct spot no, but it would be relatively quick and require a surgeon being present in the immediate vicinity for him to live.
>armor
It's fucking leather. I could probably stab through leather with the table knife sitting next to me. It's not nearly as sharp as that dagger.
>>68698138
He's not wrong though. There was the Dornish Master Plan. It was explicitly spelled out to Arianne in the books. The entire Dorne story in the books as clearly been going in this exact direction. Just like Quentyn and Ned and every other fucking arc the narrative sets up a whole bunch of things to eventually subvert them when someone or something does some brash horseshit. The Dornish Masterplan is a feint.
>>68698184
It's not a feudal aristocratic nation you fucking showfag dipshit. It's GODDAMN DORNE. Stop making shit up to shitpost about.
>>68691532
Backstabs are a thing
>>68697996
>assassinating a king or a lord paramount, even one that's disliked, and his heir won't throw a realm into complete disarray
Let's just go ahead and say it, if it works Dorne is nothing less than a fantastical, unrealistic meme. Not that GoT was ever super realistic, but if they're going to pretend that feudal politics matter in-universe then it's counterproductive to have an entire realm where none of those feudal aspects apply. I'd be understanding if Dorne was like a merchant republic or something but they aren't, they're in Wessos, and they have a distinct feudal structure.
>>68698407
Not other poster, and it's not necessarily shitpost....a lot of the time, that's the main reason kings of Britain kept getting crowned at a younger, and younger, and younger age....
>>68692727
The latest books really went downhill in quality too. The show is comparable at the very least.
>>68697182
>What's the next step of your "master plan" ?
>CRASHING THESE MARTELLS... WITH NO SURVIVORS!
CIA would be disgusted with their nonsensical plan. Bane's was top notch.
>>68691532
backstab bonus + sneak bonus + critical hit = one hit kill
>>68692336
>Yall do know the books are gonna be
I'm not planning to live that long, anon.
>>68698577
A good portion of 4, most of 5. But that was supposed to be all of one book.
My guess here, 1 is of its own. 2 was a lot of boring shifting characters around, just like 4 and 5.
3 was the best, and 6 will be a close second if not tied, while 7 will be a healthy mix of everything boring and eventful you've gotten thus far.
>>68698612
kill yourself
>>68695691
Shut the fuck up, retard, that's not what happens at all. Go read mai-chan's daily life and refrain from posting until you've been here for more than two weeks.
>I'm going to avenge Oberon by murdering half of his family!
His plans don't have to be fake or end with failure. They just lead to something else.
He is going to cause upheaval and be a launching pad for Dany when she arrives in Westeros.
Thing is HE isn't needed to do that in in the show. They transfered all of his plotting to the Sandsnakes. They transfered Aegon's invasion onto the Sandsnakes.
Because Doran is harder to write then 4 woman that you can have teleporting around the world, fucking and fighting and doing whatever you want them to do.
post YFW the Iron Islands are going to get the Dornish treatment this season and start of next season
>>68698469
>Let's just go ahead and say it, if it works Dorne is nothing less than a fantastical, unrealistic meme.
Your shitposting is a fantastical, unrealistic meme. You're literally talking about a fucking fantasy series.
>but if they're going to pretend that feudal politics matter in-universe then it's counterproductive to have an entire realm where none of those feudal aspects apply.
15 GODDAMN YEARS.
THE DORNISH FUCKING HATED DORAN.
THEY WERE ONLY LOYAL TO THE CROWN BECAUSE OF THE TARGARYENS.
THE LANNISTERS SLAUGHTERED THEIR PEOPLE AND UNSEATED THE TARGARYENS.
THE DORNISH DID NOT AGREE WITH WHAT DORAN WAS DOING AS THEIR LEADER.
THE SAND SNEKS ARE DORNISH POPULISM PERSONIFIED. STOP PRETENDING THAT YOUR AUTISM HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. AND STOP PRETENDING THAT WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU THINK "COUNTERPRODUCTIVE" MEANS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
THE DORNISH NEVER BENT THE KNEE IN SURRENDER.
THE DORNISH NEVER GAVE UP THEIR CROWN.
IF YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF THE DORNISH AND WESTEROSI BACKSTORY OF ASOIAF, DON'T PRETEND THAT'S A STORY PROBLEM.
>I'd be understanding if Dorne was like a merchant republic or something but they aren't
READ
THE
GOD
DAMN
BOOKS
OR
STFU
>they're in Wessos
WESTEROS
>and they have a distinct feudal structure.
WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF WESTEROS. WOMEN INHERIT ON EQUAL GROUNDS. BASTARDS AREN'T DISHONORABLE. SEXUALITY IS FLUID.
>>68698817
tfw yara dies some random pointless death after accomplishing nothing and euron's only narrative purpose is to provide character growth for samwell, who eventually kills him but only after euron rapes the elderly tyrell lady
what were they to fucking cheap to pay bronn money to be in the episode? i want to know what he is up to
>>68698783
I think the real frustration comes with the bullshit that dan and dave wrote for the dornish family. Not the story itself, or Dorne.
Look, Oberyn was hellbent on killing Lannisters because they were responsible for killing Elia, correct?
Doesn't that put the family in danger if the Lannisters, then, retaliate? But he didn't care....
So, with the Dornish watching (via the show), and Tristain and Doran are killed (not exactly half of Oberyns family, he does have 5 other daughters, another brother, and however many other bastard relatives to the bastards he fathered) and doing nothing to stop the murder of Doran, didn't the sandsnakes and mother avenge Oberyn in some odd way while simultaneously putting the family in danger IE just outright killing them.
Yeah, I get it, you killed two figure heads of the family. Two figureheads that are incapable of doing ANYTHING to accomplish goals here. One is chairbound and the other is a pussy. Then there's Hotah....And with a kingdom that stands by and watches, fully capable of stopping it, i think we know where the support lays.
Ok, so it doesn't make sense. On screen they wrote little to explain wtf is going on. But in the books....nvm.
>>68691386
>Show is 70% different from books
>Can't possibly have the same ending besides a general "Daenerys wins White Walkers die" bit
>Think what happens on the show matters much
>>68698783
It's not about avenging Oberyn you dip. It's not even about avenging Elia. It's about not swearing fealty to the crown anymore after 15+ years of abuse under a ruling family that stole the throne.
>>68698993
I thought Yara was still a hostage of Stannis? Did I miss something?
>>68699002
he's going back down the plothole to fuck his dumb wife until someone needs a sellsword
>>68697257
>Stabbed
>Immediately fall over and die
>Sure.
Sever the spine and you drop.
Stab a vital organ or artery and you're basically gonna immediately drop because your body will go into shock.
It was still shitty because how it was done, but his reaction made sense.
>>68698993
>Yara
If Elaria doesnt march on Kings Landing in the next few episodes Im going to be mad
EP9 shitstorm better be Dorne vs Lannisters
>>68697828
I just feel like it's gonna be another Dany-centric season.
I doesn't help that I think Emilia Clarke is a terrible actress who couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag, but two other povs revolve around her as well.
So yes, It feels like a total trainwreck now. Twenty good men, all that garbage about dorne, some storylines aren't even brought up anymore or are completely abandoned, it feels like they aren't even trying anymore.
>>68699160
>but his reaction made sense.
it didn't necessarily NOT make sense is what you meant
>>68699109
She was never captured by Stannis in the show.
Her last scene was running away from Ramsey.
>>68699222
they're fucked without GRRM to guide them
if the fat fuck doesn't know how to get to where we are now to "the ending" he envisioned, how the fuck are these assholes going to do it?
>>68699257
I re-read that previous post and went 'mmm fuck, should have re-read"
>>68698783
>vengeance makes you destroy what is dearest to you
>an edgy young adult fantasy show is literally too deep for you
>>68697635
fuck i love stannis in the book and show
>they killed him in the show :(
>stopped watching that episode
>>68694488
Welcome to tf2, dude, a simple backstab from spycrab can kill a heavy.
I hope chief Obrien shows up to avenge Bashir
>>68700063
But anon, O'Brien MUST ALWAYS SUFFER
Tfw we wont get the Fire and Blood speech
>>68700566
So he watches the show too?
Okay please explain to me because I'm starting to feel like I'm a retard
BECAUSE
As far as I remember, Trystane was on the boat with Jaime, to take his place in the small council, right? I mean I didn't miss anything I guess? So the sneks were also on the harbor and they all stood there, okay? We all saw that?
So how and where the fuck was Trystane killed?
Either D&D forgot where they left the Dorne part or I am a retard.
Please explain.
>>68701636
Trystane was on the Dornish ship, which the Snakes snuck onto before it left Dorne. They killed him while it was chilling outside Kings Landing.
>>68701692
So they just sneaked in, two grown up adult female just sneaked in without being noticed for many days until KL?
What the fuck is this piece of shit scenario?
