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why can't we have high fantasy /tv/? why must everything
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why can't we have high fantasy /tv/?

why must everything be edgy, grimdark, srs bsns crap?
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Define high fantasy because YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS AND ARE USING IT WRONG
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internet culture that all movie studios have to pander to now is too cynical for that kind of shit
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>>68647607
>Role-playing games use a different definition of the genre, defining it as closer to realism than to mythic in scope
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>We will never again see the like of Excalibur, Conan, or LOTR trilogy

Maybe in the land of dreams...
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>>68647597
That's a big bull.
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Well, what are some good high fantasy films?
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>>68647607
Are you claiming Dragonlance isn't high fantasy?
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>>68647597

because the world is not ready for live action berserk nigga
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>>68647887
Are you claiming Dragonlance isn't edgy, grimdark, srs bsns crap?
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>>68647607
yesyesyes we know, the academic definition is anything in a separate world

however I obviously mean pulpier, crazier fantasy
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>>68647730
Can anyone provide me with a link to a download of the uncut version of Excalibur? All I can find is the 119 minute version
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tfw this will never ever be a thing again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HitAtndOsWw
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>>68647607
I know what high fantasy is, and what little is said in the OP didn't contradict it.
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>>68647957
not that guy but sword and sorcery is the correct term, i believe. i want more of that sort of thing, too. i watched fire and ice the other day, it wasn't all that great but had some cool stuff
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>>68647915
You didn't even read the OP. Like every Berserk babby you just looked for an opening to shill your shit. Because the OP wants the literal fucking opposite of Berserk.
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>>68647978
Fucking what? There's a longer cut?
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>>68648073
Yeah, the original R rated theatrical cut is 140 minutes and has a lot more sex and violence

also i can't find a good torrent of Dragonslayer either if anybody has a link to that too....
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>>68648155
what the fuck

Excalibur is my favorite film of all time and you're telling me all I've seen is some castrated version??

fuck man
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>>68648155
Does the additional sex and violence improve the film?
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>>68647869
Willow, Beastmaster, Dragonslayer, Legend, Krull
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>>68648019

but then every time I say its like GoT but better everyone calls it high fantasy

when will you niggers be happy?
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>>68648179
>>68648180
Idk, I haven't seen either version. I'm assuming more of something that is good is better, especially since it's a theatrical cut vs. a for TV edit. It's hopefully like Alien, where the theatrical is better than the DC (although obv this is not the DC we're talking about)

reminder to always check IMDb's Alternate Versions page for films
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>>68648225
GoT is low fantasy
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>>68648225
Berserk is the very definition of high fantasy. Ignore that mong.
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>>68648225
> its like GoT

Literally fucking kill yourself

You are everything that is insufferable about Berserk babies
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>>68648225
GoT sucks dick but I am DLing Berserk right now on your rec
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>>68648240

exactly...
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>>68648243
OP said he didn't want edgy grimdark, which is what Berserk is the epitome of
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things that should be in a high fantasy movie:

party of adventurers
exotic world
spellcasting that isnt harry potter shit
crazy ass monsters
magical planes
talking dragons/sphinx/etc
valuable magical artifacts
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>not writing the next greatest fantasy novel RIGHT NOW with awesome dialogue, characters and strange cultures like i am

citizen kane fan here, ya'll need to step it up
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>>68648578

dude I literally am right now too.
Lets fuck
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>>68647597
Because right now its grouped in with cheesy fantasy novel shite. It'll come back eventually. >>68648267
You wont regret it until you're stuck waiting for the next release every 5 months. If yall thought GRRM was lazy you aint prepared
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>>68647978
>>68648073
>>68648155
>>68648179
>>68648180
>>68648235


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x222wvs_excalibur-1981_shortfilms
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>>68648578
Sorry buddy but you aren't going to bring anything new to the table. It's all been done. You will not be the next Tolkien?
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>>68648635

trust me...


THIS
HAS
NEVER
BEEN
DONE
AND
IT
WILL
BLOW
YOU


AWAY
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>>68648251
Were you molested by a Berserk fan or something?
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>>68648616
That's not it. The one I downloaded years ago and have on VHS is 2 hours 20 minutes, and that's the only one I've ever known. Are you sure this isn't some kind of myth?
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>>68648675

A guy that looked like Griffith probably fucked him

and did nothing wrong by that
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>>68648675
Were Berserk fags molested by moralfags or something, because I've never seen a more fanny flustered fanbase about characters like Kenshiro that you need to shitpost about constantly like your lives depended on it. Not edgy enough huh?
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>>68648597
tell me your favorite/most exciting thing about your novel breh

>>68648635
nah my concept hasn't been done, which is surprising, since it's derived from an idea a person had on an RPG forum that hit 70 pages in 2005.

it's unique
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>>68648676
I've looked it up on KAT and TPB and they only have a 2 hour version
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>>68648720

>tell me your favorite/most exciting thing about your novel breh

it has like hyenas and shit running around

think gangs of new york combined with lord of the flies and then sprinkle in magic shit, then add a circus tent and thats my novel
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>>68647597
High fantasy and grimdark space shit are the last bastions of actual nerd shit, and hence why it isn't popular.

Normie sci-fi and fantasy-lite are embraced because you can spout "SO NERDY xD" on Instagram with a pair of clear lens glasses, and you'll get 1000 likes. Guess what happens if you dress up as a space marine or Deathstalker? That's right, people say "eww gross" and unfollow you.
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>>68648713
your post makes negative sense
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>>68648720

>derived from an idea a person had on an RPG forum that hit 70 pages in 2005.

what the fuck is it?
so I can steal it?
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>>68647597
Because Dragonlance is shit.

Raistlin is a textbook example of a Gary Stu.
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Make Gor into a series.

That would piss people off and be awesome.
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>>68648713
It's okay anon, we can find a cure one day.
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>>68648818
>Throws a bitchfit anytime you come across a character you can assume is moral because it's not like muh Guts who's a mad dog killer
>accuses others of autism

Oh I forgot amoralfags are simply enlightened by their own intelligence
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>>68648808
nah breh, it's too good. i have to get my novel out fast too because the fact that it hasn't been banked upon until now is heinous

it's literally a bowl-you-over-shit-eating-smile concept that fits inside of two sentences.
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>>68648888
Good luck anon, maybe those quads will help you
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>>68648888

fuck you and your quads I hope it fails if your not going to tell me. We are no longer brehs, breh
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>>68648857
Do you actually have autism? I'm not even memeing here you genuinely aren't making any sense.
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>>68648934
You're obviously a very new Berserk fan who didn't post on /a/ or /tg/ during the 2007 - 2010 years to understand.
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>>68648780
i like it.

some advice for you.

use these, they're fucking great: https://curiosityquills.com/limyaael/

advice some chick wrote 10 years ago that's still beyond relevant today. she's a genius.

and read these books, they'll help a lot:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6376896-the-fire-in-fiction (anything by maas is gold)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12986199-the-first-50-pages
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20181.Plot_Structure

you can find torrents of those on kat.cr i think, if not, downloadable through google.
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>>68648809
Define Gary Stu because YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS AND ARE USING IT WRONG
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>>68647932
Except grimdark=/=high fantasy.
High fantasy is a complex, completely alien fantasy world with it's own artificial lenguagues and history and with a great deal of emphasis in magic.
Low fantasy is fantasy restricted to a very narrow point of view, with little to no worldbuilding and less emphasis in magic.

>>68648001
Conan is great, but is the definition of low fantasy.
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>>68648961

thanks man
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>>68648985
>it's a guy who literally just googled the definitions of high and low fantasy proceeds to lecture others episode
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>>68648953
Yeah I finished a month back. I never even noticed Berserk related shit until I started to read it. You're making it seem live it's eva or madoka teir of getting constantly mentioned.

>pic unrelated
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>>68647730
I miss old things like that. Feels like the suits are realer and women might burst out of their clothing
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>>68647597
>why can't we have high fantasy

Because high fantasy reuqires copious amounts of CGI or worse yet, practical effects (imagine a jewish executive shuddering at the word). The return is unsure aka not worth it in their eyes.

Furthermore, it would require high fantasy on the part of the writer. Considering what shit passes as dialogue nowadays, fantasy in Hollywood is long dead.

>why must everything be edgy, grimdark, srs bsns crap?

Because the calm, smooth ride of the 90s is long over. Now everything is filled with ideology and searching for the ultimate evil to destroy, be it a corporation, the Enemy or the government. All villains nowadays have some mission and ideology, they are all fanatics and lunatics.
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>>68647597

We had high fantasy for DECADES.

From the fucking 1950's with the Steve Reeves Hercules flicks, all the way through the 90's and 00's with things like Xena and Hercules, EVERY fantasy-show or movie was both High Fantasy and light-toned, non-edgy, non-relaistic, non-grimdark campyness.

It literally was not until the 10's that Darker Fantasy went mainstream with Game of Thrones.

I really don't see why this is a complaint.
Were you too young to remember anything before Game of Thrones got popular?
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>/tv/ contrarians confusing high fantasy with noblebright and low fantasy with grimdark
>claiming Conan, Xena and other low fantasy icons are somehow high fantasy
t. /tg/
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>>68649508
oh yeah /tg/, the board that says Excalibur is a shit movie but love to discuss MLP.
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>>68649508
>dat midget
JUST
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>>68649526
>It's a /tv/ critizices other boards quality episode
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>>68649603
Call a spade a spade buddy

/tv/ being bad doesn't make /tg/ not garbage for entirely unique reasons, like the one I just mentioned
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>>68648788
stop getting pissy at people who like things
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>>68649508
>contrarians
only redditors use this word

/tg/ has been dead for like five years anyway so you're definitely a redditor infesting its corpse
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>>68649420
>Hercules

Those are myths though. Slightly different animal.
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Anime has high fantasy all the time. Literally the superior medium.
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>>68647978
>>68648073
>>68648155
>>68648179
My DVD is 140 mins. Never knew there was a shorter cut.

And while not high fantasy, I've seen a couple things in the fantasy genre lately that I've really liked:

Stardust
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell
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>>68649746
>weebshit
kill yourself
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>>68649746
i fucking hate anime so much
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>>68649746

>Assault rifle
>High fantasy

Yeah, nah
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>>68649746
jesus christ...
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>>68650156
>implying Zelazny's Amber isn't high fantasy

This board literally does not know what high fantasy means.
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>>68649746

MMnIN is superior as far as "Mythical creatures from fantasy meet modern day humanity" goes.
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>>68647597

9/11/01 happened
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>>68648578
You're too late pham, the most unique piece of fantasy that's been written since Tolkien or Gene Wolfe is Micheal Kirkbride's C0DA, but no one was ready for it.

Mark my words, in a decade or two it will be seen for the masterful work it really is.
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>>68647597
>ctrl+f war
>0 results

how has nobody mentioned this?

warcraft 3 is high fantasy

elves with purple skin, orcs who aren't swole dudes in muddy costumes, gryphons, combat spellcasting
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>>68652118
i'm the person you're responding to.

i'm a student of michael kirkbride. my world's mythos is a mixture of inspiration from the 36 Lessons of Vivec and the Enuma Elish, with much of my own weirdness.
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>>68647841
for your wife
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>>68648985
Grimdarkness and high fantasy does not exclude one another, nor does low fantasy equal grimdarkness.

Conan the Barbarian for instance is low fantasy. Shit like Warcraft and Warhammer, including 40k which birthed the term grimdark is high fantasy.
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>>68652118
actually, i'm looking at this c0da thang, and the main idea behind it is actually something i had as a small cultural thing for my world: a one-offf critic character makes a living editing famous literature and tweaking it, to much applause by the rest of sophisticated society, who agree his works are better. and he receives all honors for "perfecting" the work, while the original creator receives nothing, to much applause.

"death of the author" taken to the next logical step.
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I have never seen any Conan movie, at least not that I remember.

Whats the best way to experience them? Are there some shitty spin-off I need to avoid or something? Extended cut versions I should look for?

Im getting hype and ready for a marathon but I want to make it a good time.
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>>68652335
>>68648985

both correct

i'd put it like pic related

there's a wide spectrum

really i can't think of anything recent apart from warcraft which i'd call 'high fantasy'
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Holy FUCK I love Mike Kirkbride.

How did this turn into a BASED KIRKBRIDE thread? I don't know but what I do know is that /tv/ is amazing.
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>>68652647
his Muatra penetrates all of the fantastical
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>>68652431
>>68652647

fuck off mike
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>>68652674
kek
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>>68652704
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Stupid sexy Vivec
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>>68652452
Just watch the first one with Arnie. Get drunk with a few buddies and watch the second one, it isn't great.
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>>68647730
Is this the movie where a guy (lancelot?) fucks a woman while he's in full armor?
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