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Marvel's Civil War: Perlmutter v Feige
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Marvel's house of cards is falling down.

>Last year, at the New York Comic Con, I was told by well connected senior individuals that a memo had gone out to Marvel senior staffers saying that the Inhumans move was to be “deprioritised” at Disney/Marvel.

>I was told that it was expected that the Inhumans movie would be delayed, dropped off the slate and eventually done away with, with the reason to be given that they didn’t find the right director with the right vision or some such.

>But the real reason was that Inhumans was a Isaac Perlmutter-pushed project and was only on the slate in the first place if Kevin Feige was allowed his own Captain Marvel project on the slate, something Perlmutter wasn’t as keen on. And last year the two split badly and Perlmutter and the rest of the comics side of the company were removed from involvement with the film side of Marvel Studios (though they kept the TV shows).

Right now Disney is in damage control claiming the movie is simply on hold but looks like the rift between Marvel Entertainment and Marvel Studios is growing.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/04/23/what-i-was-told-about-the-inhumans-movie-last-year/
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>>68640651
You know this does kind of make sense with all the stuff on the TV show being ignored by the movies.
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This movie shouldn't happen, it doesn't make any sense without the Fantastic Four.
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>>68640651
Who is marvel who and who?
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>>68640651
I thought Perlmutter is this weird Howard Hughes type. He is the CEO of Marvel but he's rarely seen,old-fashioned and doesn't get in the way.
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Lol, Disney are running scared after their astroturfing attempt to destroy BvS failed so hilariously. The era of capeshit is at an end, the era of CapeKino is beginning in earnest with DC leading the charge and Marvel too deeply intertwined with Disney to make the jump (not that they have a single character capable of being used in genuine CapeKino).
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>>68640651
I was looking forward to it. Typical that it would be cancelled.
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>>68640989
No, he's only like Hughes in the sense of his codeine addiction and habit of pissing in Mason jars.
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>>68640651

Why are people digging like this is a negative? MArvel has said its one to have a sequel and a new property every year. They're going to run out of new properties eventually if they don't do inhumans.
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>>68641027
yawn
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>>68640778
Speaking of this, does anyone have that really cringey clip of Clark Gregg asking the avengers cast whether they'd like to ever do a cameo on his show? The looks from RDJ and everyone except for evans were indescribable
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>>68641171
Was that to be a snappy response? You marvelfags are hilarious.
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>>68641027
You're fucking insane, man. They still have like ten other movies lined up.
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>>68641207
They're a dying beast. A dinosaur and a meteor is heading their way.
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>>68641027
Captain America could easily be capekino.
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>>68641175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsP1gCI5cv0&feature=youtu.be&t=2m52s

>SURE!
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>>68641027

Just like how animated movies are failing cause dreamworks is tanking and pixar is getting meh?

Oh wait Disney is doing well. Cant stop the mouse motherfuckers!!!!
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>>68641263
I agree, it's the closest thing Marvel/Disney have managed but it's still massively flawed compared to BvS. It's more of a 'mistake' by the habitually shitty than a representation of true Kino.
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>>68640651
>Damage control on unnanouced property

Good job DCuck
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>>68640651
Why should I care? In humans is a garbage series and Fieg is a faggot
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>>68641275
>>68641175

I think it's because they're trained to give no spoilers away and so they were asked a question they weren't prepared for and they just froze because they didn't know "what the correct thing to say" was
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>>68640651
They don't want to show us how badly they would have executed the xmen if they had their rights.
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>>68640651
/tv/ has been invaded by butt hurt DCucks.

That Stuckmann bullshit, the marvel trolling and trying to explain one of the worst train wrecks ever made threads is 90% of this place now. What the fuck are mods doing?
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>>68640651
What rift? Ike Perlmutter was sidelined because he's batshit insane.
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>>68640651
What about Kevin Feige/Jeph Loeb?
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>implying anybody at Marvel gives a fuck about cancelling this
These motherfuckers are too busy rolling in fucking money. They just got Spider Man back. the amount of Lego sets and bobblehead Funky Poops we're about to see rushed to stores is going to be fucking crazy
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Or it could be exactly like Feign said, we Spider-Man now.

Enjoy the click bait, and always aim for the Got - damn roof.
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>>68641475
>What the fuck are mods doing?
Patrolling (but not deleting) racebait threads.
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>>68641475
More like tv has been invaded by defensive marvel shills who hide behind meaningless rotten tomatoes scores and pretend like BvS is as bad a movie as some moronic critics claim when it's far more subversive, visually stunning, and interesting than almost anything churned out by the Disney factory.

How about instead of complaining about anons who wish to engage in discussion and analysis of a film you just go back to spamming RT scores every 5min
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>>68641650
They didn't get spider-man back. Sony basically loaned them the character for civil war. Sony still releases his movies and maintains creative control and get the money from his merch/box office
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>>68640651
lol Dcucks so mad they starting rumors
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>>68641820
>They didn't get spider-man back. Sony basically loaned them the character for civil war. Sony still releases his movies and maintains creative control and get the money from his merch/box office
Ok, it's time to stop posting. You clearly have gone past shitposting and in to clueless town.
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>>68641820
>Sony still releases his movies and maintains creative control and get the money from his merch

Nope. Sony does not get money off Spider-man merch anymore. They did not get that back. As of ASM Sony lost merchandising profits from spider-man film related products. Marvel has Spider-man animation, merchandise and Sony has film. They only make money off of say games they may make and their movie.

Spider-man in Civil War and....Infinity War (assumed) is a joint effort and Sony gets none of that money..... presumably.
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>>68641027
>> DC leading the charge
>>DCucks believe this
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>>68640651
Meanwhile at DC comics their second film in their "shared universe" is likely to close at 900 mil.

>mfw zack snyders justice league movie gets shit on by critics but still makes dump trucks of money because people are sick of marvel saturating the market
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>>68642083
It's true, all of it.
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Just because they cancel a movie they haven't made yet doesn't mean they're going out of business. They have a dozen movies scheduled to come out and this was the least interesting one. They'll probably still make it just not anytime soon.
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perlmutters a fucking idiot retard

feige's the only reason marvel studios has had such massive success and if perlmutter wants money to keep rolling in he'll do what the fat jew says

everything marvel does that isnt films is terrible
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>>68641027
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>>68643275
>900m
>good

also

>dc vs marvel
>real
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Calling it. Inhumans is being rewritten and pushed back to Phase 4.
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>>68643804
2nd film in franchise / recieved shit reviews. 900 mil against 250 mil production budget aint bad
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>>68644260
It's by no means a flop, WB will make a profit, but they were expecting Avengers money and were adamant that anything less than a billion would be a disappointment. Plus the fact that there was a massive drop after the first weekend shows that everyone hated the movie and that will do long term damage to the franchise.

And you can't really do the "it's only the second movie!" BS like you could with marvel, because MCU was built from the ground up making Z-listers into household names before the oversaturation of capeshit. Batman and Superman are already household names and Batman JUST came off a billion dollar grossing franchise. No one gave a shit about Iron Man before RDJ.
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>>68644425
Idk where people keep gatting anything less than a bil was a dissapointment. Word is WB wanted 800 mil any thing more was a bonus. NO franchise banks on a movie making a billion dollars. Movies making a bil is rare in the buisness.
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>>68641757
>>68643711
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>>68644560
Studios only take 50% of the gross due to theatres and foreign distribution. So half of $836m is what WB have gotten back so far.
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Unlike Marvel, who repackages the same generic macguffin-plot into a new movie every year while stopping only to change the actors and dialogue to keep up with the newest tumblr obsessions and reddit memes, DC's films are actually attempting to be visually and tonally distinct in an effort to elevate the superhero genre from mediocre blockbuster garbage to artistic tales weaving themes of morality and sacrifice into monumental and dynamic epics on screen while also questioning the very essence of what society deems a 'hero'. The difference is honestly night and day; during a Marvel movie the viewer is more likely to gobble down popcorn while during a DC film the viewer will likely take out a pen and paper and start taking notes.
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>>68641275
>SURE!
Chris Evans is hilariously assburger, gotta love him
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>>68641275
Based Evans
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>>68644260
400 million with marketing, idiot

and they need to make 800 million to simply break even since theaters, etc., get a cut

they made a tiny profit on BVS - especially considering it features two of pop culture's most iconic characters

they might make more on video sales, but BVS is by no means a gigantic success. you'll see much smaller budgets for future DC movies, unless they're as retarded as I think they are by hiring Zack Snyder to do their whole slate.
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>>68644560
It is for a movie starring the most popular superheroes
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>>68640651
More like they got spidey back and that franchise is eating up money and development time and creative people that would have worked on inhumans.
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>>68644779
>take out a pen and start taking notes

Oh, anon, your bait is as hilarious as it is gay.
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>>68641475

That latest batch of /tv/ janitors are a fucking disaster. There was a BTVS thread about the character, not the actor, and it was deleted within 8 replies.

Meanwhile this Marvel/DC shit will stick around until they 404.

If you put a girl in header post, 85% chance it'll be deleted just because.
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>>68644789
Cavill maybe a gamer but Evans is an autist.
one of us.
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>>68644659
This is why merchandising, licensing, promotional partners, and tax credits for shooting locations are key in film making. Believe me WB is happy they know a snyder film braking a bil is a risky proposition so they pre plan these things to ensure suitable profits. This movie is bomb proof. Tentpoles with built in audiences like this rarely ever fail. Only shit like gods egypt and obscure older characters like john carter and lone ranger
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What happens after Infinity War?
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why is this board overrun by insane dc fans
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Fucking capeshit.
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It's cancelled because they know it'll bomb. They blew their load using every normie superhero.
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>>68645066
reboot
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>>68645134
Make no mistakes marvel kids are in here too making this shit worse than it was before which is no easy feat.
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>>68640651

>Pull one movie from their release schedule of 20+ super hero films. Because of director problems

>Durr hurr dis is it! Dey is fallen down man!

Faggot
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capeshitters will never leave this board
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>>68645165
when will our savior cleanse the world of capeshit
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>>68643040
Of course Sony get money. The ASM cinematic universe may have failed but he's still their most potentially bankable property. No way are they giving him to Marvel for free.
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>>68645238
>muh normie may may
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>>68645339
Don't worry. He has four Dances with Wolves sequels lined up.
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>>68645165
nice
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>>68641175
It's clearly done in a jokey style, I can see that and I loved BvS and can't stand agents of SHIELD.
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>>68641275
RDJ "we got one"

basically, "I won't, but any of them could"
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>>68641517
He's not insane he's just a skinflint and a gigantic cunt to deal with.

Back before they had Disney money to throw at these films he was valuable because of his financial acumen. He was one of the key guys who kept Marvel from disintegrating during the 90's when they went bankrupt. Now they don't need to worry about that so he's been pushed out because no one wants to deal with him doing shit like ripping into promotional staff for letting reporters get an extra soda during screenings.
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>>68641027
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>>68645165
Based Jim needs to join DC already
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>>68647494
They should just hire him for an Aquaman picture like they did in Entourage
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>>68641027
This can't be real... This is a false flag right? No one could possibly be this retarded right?

This is literally non-news. Its facebook notification tier click bait.

A movie that's coming out in over two years that doesn't even precede infinity war and which we know next to nothing about is delayed.

Who cares?

>bleeding cool

Literally who?
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>>68644260
>>68644560
I'm not going to do the work for you.

Just fucking google "BvS profit" and read the half dozen articles that are skeptical that it will earn much over breaking even, let alone any kind of significant profit. I don't give a fuck what kind of gymnastics any DCuck uses to make his movie look good. The professionals in the industry have already said as much.

And this is added in addition to being a critical failure, continuing to ostracize its fans, not building a lot of hype, raising huge doubts on Snyder, and making people cautious about all the upcoming movies.

Its a failure.
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>>68645165
>James Cameron
>having integrity anymore
Enjoy your four CGI shitfests with no characters or story.
>inb4 hurr are you talking about Marvel?
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Thank fucking god, one less capeshit movie
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>>68640651
>Replacing Inhumans with Spiderman/Iron Man team up movie
>House of cards is falling down
k
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I thought they just realised no one gives a fuck about Inhumans
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That sounds like bullshit. Perlmutter is just a really smart businessman who knew with Avi Arad that taking a nearly bankrupt 90s Marvel would be the greatest investment one could make.

I doubt he gives a shit.
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I want to see when/if they make the inhumans movie, if they can pull off Kamala.
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>>68650992
Why would the supesbuster suit have so many scratches and weathering on it before the fight started? Didn't he make that suit for that fight?
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>>68651174
No one gives a shit about any Marvel properties until they hit the cinema, bar Spider-Man.
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>>68651174

Inhumans are necessary to introduce the Kree, the Skrull and their war.

Its the easiest way to open up a large part of the Marvel universe.
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>>68651427

Kree are already introduced, Skrulls belong to Fox
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>>68641175
Nigga, even on talkshows every fucking second is rehearsed
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>>68651563

Yeah and Spiderman belongs to Sony.

Look how that worked out.
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didnt wanna see this movie anyway
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>>68641259
>a dinosaur and a meteor is heading their way

At the same time? God help us all, if the impact doesn't kill you, the dinos surely will.
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>>68644779
>take out a pen and paper and start taking notes

you spelt gun, bullets, and lives wrong.
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>>68643275
>reddittomatoes
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>>68650102
>he doesn't want more pro-religion and anti-intellectualism/industrialism with waifu-bait

haha mm
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>>68644897
There's one single mod who is responsible for this.

She's a huge dc kek, and she's from london, chances are she's ugly as well.
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>>68652513
That is literally pixar-tier cgi. Was cameron even trying?
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>>68652555
nice trips.
I don't have any complains about the CG
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>>68651364
>Didn't he make that suit for that fight?

No, it was his general riot suit. The tech manual and Snyder interviews talk about a bit. He's used it before for villains really strong in close quarters combat, and for general encounters where the usual suit would get ripped (Snyder specifically mentioned he'd used it before to rescue bears that escaped Gotham Zoo).
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>>68652322
I laughed pretty hard when I read this.
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>>68652790
Bears? He rescued bears? Why couldn't we see this movie instead of BvS?
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>>68653072

Yeah, bears are pretty gnarly and Batman would rather rescue them in his riot suit rather than have cops potentially get mauled trying to capture them.

Maybe we'll see a flashback to bear rescuing in The Batman!
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>>68640651
>Jew wars
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>>68641275
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>>68652790
>>68653072
>>68653126
GODDAMMIT WHY DIDN'T BATMAN V SUPERMAN BEGIN WITH A BEAR RESCUE.

This makes the White Portuguese plot holes even more upsetting.
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>>68644779
>>tl;dr DC is reddit

I get it, anon
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