Is this the best action movie ever?
I have no idea how George Miller is going to make a sequel without it seeming like it's just more of the same (not that that would be bad) or losing the non-stop hi-octane action feel.
Any other good action movies like this?
>>68634449
>action
yes
>movie
no
It's flick at best.
>>68634492
Fuck off with your retarded memes back to letterboxd
>>68634449
it's my favourite action movie
also pretty sure Miller said he isn't going to make a sequel of it, I think he's just producing
you should watch Babe 2 OP. also made by Miller, it's one of the best children's movies ever made
>>68634449
No, that would have to be Die Hard.
It is, however, one of the best movies made this decade, and next to Hardcore Henry (fuck you) it has some of the best practical effects we've seen in movies in years.
>>68634449
>Is this the best action movie ever?
ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah
>>68634449
It's at least up there. I feel the same way about Wasteland, it has a lot to live up to.
>>68634449
Where was the best action? This movie was 50% a boring slog and 50% pretty-good.
And no, I am not using math to say "half male and half female." From the start of the movie until they dcide to motorcycle 600,000 miles through a desert is a boring slog. After they decide that that is stupid, and go back, it's only okay.
Not the best. Very very good though. It had the benefit of coming after a good couple of years without any legitimately good, non-CGI shitfest action flicks, but regardless of that it's still a very good movie.
The Matrix is better, despite its directors achieving meme /gif/-tier status. Lethal Weapon is better, and so is (especially) Die Hard. They're action films while being fun and endearing, and the one thing that Mad Max Fury Road lacks is being endearing. Introducing some nice old ladies and killing them all 5 minutes later is not enough to inspire genuine affection in me.
>>68634837
>rom the start of the movie until they dcide to motorcycle 600,000 miles through a desert is a boring slog.
Your opinion's your opinion, man.It's fucking wrong though
>>68634449
>muh no plot car chase movie
what a load of shit
>>68634850
you feel no affection when Max saves Furiosa or the two of them show each other their mutual respect in that final shot of the movie?
also Fury Road is so beautifully made that I'm made to feel emotion in many sequences when the music and the imagery comes together so astonishingly. eg. the motorcycle attack on the rig.
>>68634718
>practical effects
>really bad cgi blood
>>68634917
>you feel no affection when Max saves Furiosa or the two of them show each other their mutual respect in that final shot of the movie?
well I do because they went through this epic journey together and whatnot, but I certainly didn't come to love their characters like I did John McClane or Quaid from Total Recall. Another film I forgot which is a got-tier action film is Total Recall.
Definitely a beautiful film though, if we're talking action films that manage to visually be kino, this is the undisputed king
>>68635023
Yeah for me the filmmaking is mostly what matters so Fury Road is my favourite action movie. I like Die Hard well enough but it's not made with half the technical skill as something like Fury Road. I should get around to watching Total Recall, I dig Verhoeven.
>>68634449
Of this decade for sure. Better than T2 or Predator? Not so sure.
It's the only movie i'd pay big money to see again in IMAX tho.
>>68635119
avoid spoilers senpai, total recall is a rollercoaster
>>68635124
>tfw I recommended it to a coworker and she streamed it on her laptop and said she didn't like it
>>68635185
At least now you know who to shun.
>>68634925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEHCQELmW7E
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about son.
>>68634449
The best way for Miller to surprise people after FR would be to make the next Mad Max entry the opposite; slow-paced, contemplative. As long as his film grammar remains as pure and powerful: minimum dialogues, visual storytelling, meaningful editing. A post-apocalypstic western similar to Tarkovsky's Stalker in pacing anc concept, but with the spirit of Corbucci, Django's carrying a coffin through the mud, the Great Silence's chaos and silent violence. I also want him to ditch the desert and have the next one set in an ice-filled world. I want him to keep fucking with what people expect from the franchise, I love his idea that each film, each Max story is just oral history, folk tales that get more corrupted and mythologized as years pass in a bookless world, with different reasons for civilization downfall, different point of views, changing details on how his family died. I want this one scene from Happy Feet as a whole movie. No cars. Max on foot, having to walk from point A to point B, on a weird philosophical quest with powerful imagery, with a couple of interesting sidekicks. Something like Max having to carry his wife's coffin to bury her some place.
>>68635294
I try to do a movie swap with her occasionally to open her eyes to patriciandom but it hasn't gone well so far.
The only movie she's liked that I got her to watch was After Hours.
>>68635373
I thought thats what miller did with the old movies no? Each one different formula than the last.
>>68635373
are the Happy Feet movies actually worth watching?
>>68635548
The first one is fun to watch, at least from what I remember when I was younger.
Looking back it's fucking bizarre, though.
>>68635642
Have you seen Babe 2? It's one of my favourite children's films. It's also really strange for a kids movie. It feels more like an arthouse movie at most points. It's really beautiful. You should check it if you dig Miller.
>>68635678
I'll give it a go
>>68634449
I remember this movie having like 40 threads in the catalog at the same time at launch week and suddenly, 3 months afterwards, everyone forgot it even existed.
What happened.
>>68634449
No, but it's still great.
>>68635759
It died because everyone in the threads was either ITS SHILLS or ITS FEMINISM
>>68635782
Well, to be fair the it was borderline spam.
Most of the threads didn't even get 10 replies, yet people made one thread after another.
>>68635373
so basically the original mad max
>>68635759
What happened was it turned out to be good and nobody could shitpost about it.
>>68634850
The Matrix is better.
OK kid.
The Matrix is a dated CGI shitfest movie that only impressed people that had never been exposed to the cliche of "is this real or a dream". Believe me, I worked with these idiots when it came out.
"But it's SO original, I mean, what if we're all in a slave state and...." Fuck man, the premise of Matrix had been done countless times before.
So what, you wanna defend Keanu's acting in it? Try. Go ahead. He was better in John Wick. At least that was fun movie, not meant to be taken seriously.
tldr; Matrix is quite possibly the most over rated action movie ever made.
>>68634917
Fury Road was a fucking disappointment. It's there with fucking Beyond Thunderdome as far as Mad Max films go. Actually in many ways it fucking sucks compared to it.
>muh Vulvalinis
The film tried to be Road Warrior and failed with it's long ass boring no-climax chase sequences. Anachronistic, the story (there was hardly any) didn't make sense within itself, Tom HArdy sucked ass Max he had zero charisma on screen the women were pointless. Only good part of it was the cinematography and conventional special effects. All and all terrible film.
>>68636111
>>68636111
>only impressed people that had never been exposed to the cliche of "is this real or a dream".
Which, to be fair, was pretty much everyone.
>>68636175
if you think Fury Road is a terrible film then you basically have no appreciation of any of the technical components of filmmaking
anyway you sound like one of those people that was just yelling "SJW TRASH" when it came out so carry on
Fury Road is way, way, way better than all of the other Mad Max movies
I saw The Protector today, and it was far better than this
What most actions do wrong is that the movie doesn't convey any other feelings than "WHOA", Mad Max is the first in a long time that brings something more to the table, but it's still not too far above the rest
Terminator 1 > Fury Road > Terminator 2 > other movies in general >>> 99% of action movies
>>68636293
>if you think Fury Road is a terrible film then you basically have no appreciation of any of the technical components of filmmaking
I already complemented the technical aspects of it, but they alone don't make a film good.
I'm a serious Mad Max fan, and after reading all the hype I was very much disappointed in it. Most people can't even say why they liked it, and most people don't even fucking remember it existed.
>anyway you sound like one of those people that was just yelling "SJW TRASH" when it came out so carry on
lel, I seriously can't see how this film was in anyway feminist other than the cringeworthy kind. All the women were weak and illogical, even fucking Furiosa.
>Fury Road is way, way, way better than all of the other Mad Max movies
And this is how I know you are a mouthbreathing retard
>>68634850
>a good couple of years without any legitimately good, non-CGI shitfest action flicks
The Raid 2 and John Wick came the previous year and absolutely demolish most action movies, including Fury Road.
>>68636295
>What most actions do wrong is that the movie doesn't convey any other feelings than "WHOA"
I needed to hear this, gonna be working on a first person/security cam POV action short over the summer and I've been trying to iron out the conflicts in my mind.
>>68636451
I love how plebs have convinced themselves that the original Mad Max movies are some unparalleled works of cinematic excellence. The first one is decent, the second one is pretty solid, the third one is trash. They can't even compare to Fury Road mate.
And sorry but the quality of the filmmaking is the most significant aspect of a movie, particularly a movie like this which wants to be a silent film.
I'm guessing you're one of those dummies (actually I don't have to guess, you've already proven it) who privileges character and plot, and then gets upset about judging characters who they think act "illogical" because they have no idea how movies work.
Stay pleb my man.
>>68636451
2 is literally the only good one of the original 3
>>68636346
>t1 over t2
Excellent taste anon
>>68636584
Truth. Roadwarrior stands alone. Without it the series would be forgotten.
>>68634449
It's my favourite movie, so yeah.
>>68636563
Whatever helps you cope
>>68634644
Miller wrote Babe 1.
>>68636795
Yeah I know. Babe 1 is good but 2 is a masterpiece.
>>68636696
The timeline is all fucked up. Furiosa was born after the apocalypse and yet Max, who was around long before it, is still pretty young
>>68636295
But isn't conveying the feeling of "WHOA" what makes a movie an action movie and what makes an action movie good? Does it really need deep philosophical discussions or complex characters and would it really be an action movie then?
>>68636584
Agreed, 1 is ok just for the way how it's different and for understanding the setting of 2 more deeply. Even though watching the first film isn't neccasary at all.
>>68636583
>I love how plebs have convinced themselves
You sure have, you reek of a pleb who can't even say why the film is good. The fucking film is a mess, a forgettable mess.
>They can't even compare to Fury Road mate.
You are right about that one as Fury Road is absolute trash.
>And sorry but the quality of the filmmaking is the most significant aspect of a movie, particularly a movie like this which wants to be a silent film.
L O L
> who they think act "illogical" because they have no idea how movies work.
The film is poor science fiction as it doesn't make sense in it's own world. It's literal kiddy trash, it's a fucking Ed Wood of Mad Max films.
>Stay pleb my man.
Okay how about you stay in reddit
>>68636870
>>68636870
1. there's no timeline/canon, Miller is playing with loose rules, each film is from the POV of a different narrator
2. there's a theory that the new Max is the feral kid following in his footsteps, which would explain the actor's change and why he has the music box
Accept the mystery
>>68636870
since george miller is the final authority on this, apparently it's been retconned.
weird how care about lore not even the creator of the lore gives a shit about.
>>68636879
Connection to the characters gives context and gravity to the action, otherwise you're just watching pretty colors. Maybe you watch movies passively, but finding motive and attaching to it in a film makes it SOOO much better.
>I have no idea how George Miller is going to make a sequel
Probably same way he did last time with Thunderdome.
Every Mad Max has been pretty different with the one before, the only thing that connected them was a focus on vehicles.
Fury Road was just taking the chase scenes from Mad Max 1 and the kooky wastelanders from 2 and mashing it together.
By that token, I'd expect Fury Road 2 to have Katy Perry running an underground casino. Max escapes the Melbourne with a helicopter filled with old people.
>>68636891
>L O L
You honestly just sound incredibly stupid
>>68637066
nice retort there buddy. You in all honesty are incredibly stupid.
>>68636891
Why does it matter that an action movie is poor science fiction? They barely even try to make it scientific, just an offhand remark that a nuke went off and now everything sucks. Expecting this to be scientifically accurate is a little naïve.
How does it not make sense in its own world? I don't see anything that is really off and, as with all fantasy, you can always find minor things.
>>68637027
But this is an action movie, this is not Bergman or Eisenstein.
The characters are running from an insane tyrant who will kill/rape them if they catch them. That's sort of context enough? The only thing the characterization is needed for is for us to connect with the characters but Mad Max is a survivor with some bad memories, we can all connect to that.
>>68637164
>Why does it matter that an action movie is poor science fiction?
Because the action we see in it we already saw in Roadwarrior. The differtence is there was momentum and build-up in Roadwarrior in Fury Road there is none of it. It's a boring action film that only excels in the visual department.
>They barely even try to make it scientific
It doesn't have to be scientific you mong, it just has to make sense within it's own setting.
>Expecting this to be scientifically accurate is a little naïve.
I don't care if there were fucking dragons flying around as long as it would have made sense within the setting of the film.
>>68636879
>Does it really need deep philosophical discussions or complex characters and would it really be an action movie then?
It doesn't need it, but it makes it stand out from the rest
If it doesn't have at least one of those, then it'll be forgotten
Doesn't have to be deep either, look at Mad Max
They just showed 5 minutes of why the tribe is oppressed, and then showed character in Max's tormented psyche, Furiosa's naive hopes and how FatGut tricks everyone around him
>>68637380
>Because the action we see in it we already saw in Roadwarrior.
I love both but seriously you either haven't watched Roadwarrior in too long or you're trying too fucking hard.
>>68637380
Can you point out where the movie didn't make sense in its own world? And not something nitpicky, point out some major issues.
when someone dies in fury road you can barely tell because they only tilt their head slightly
>>68637489
>I love both but seriously you either haven't watched Roadwarrior in too long or you're trying too fucking hard.
I have and it was better made. There was actual suspense and momentum in it. Fury Road was just taking that same scene and making it longer and more over the top while lacking any real build-up. From the beggining to the end it was the same.
>>68637583
>waterwars
this isn't demonstrated in the film in any sensible way apart from Immortan Joe barely splashing the tribe with water. Meanwhile the rest of the cast treat it like it's nothing special.
>apocalyptic world of scarcity
yet they have time to manufacture skull wheels and punch skull motifs all over their truck. etc
>having lot's of ammo and pretending there isn't
Bullet farm was there yet they still tried to play the ammunition is scarce game. Same with fuel. Trying to keep what made the suspense in Roadwarrior yet shitting all over it and pretending that it never actually mattered, in a way trying to have their cake and eat it too.
It's been a while since I saw it but it was terribly boring. I was more entertained by Thunderdome due to the camp value of it.
>>68634755
Care to drop a few better ones if that's so funny?
Just do a sequel focusing on Max, with no old ladies, and no strong female characters that take you out of the movie.
>>68637940
literally have no idea what you're talking about. 2patrician4me.
>>68638089
where do I start?
>>68638023
sorry but there were no strong female characters. all women in this movie were weak and illogical.
>>68634449
I found it pretty boring desu.
>makes a point of minimal cgi
>speeds up half the footage instead which is even worse
It was definitley refreshing. Great looking, big budget and rated R, I don't know how the fuck Miller pulled that off.
>>68637802
I don't understand what this means
>>68638346
I love the fact that he kept to his roots by having the speed up footage but I also hate how it looks
>>68638714
how could i possibly explain it in a simpler way you fucking retard
>>68638772
maybe try saying something that makes sense
>>68635119
>Yeah for me the filmmaking is mostly what matters so Fury Road is my favourite action movie. I like Die Hard well enough but it's not made with half the technical skill as something like Fury Road.
Jesus christ. Anyone could have filmed Fury Road. There's nothing exceptional about how it was shot, it's designs were derivative, the plot was basic, and the acting is only just competent. There's no merit to movie apart from killing time. Die Hard's writing and premise is lightyears above Fury Road. Die Hard has a real, living, person, who's vulnerable and limited as it's focus. Fury Road has a plot device as it's protagonist.
>>68638880
suck my dick and learn to read
>>68638346
Is funny how in the scene where the guitar flies towards the screen, the guitar is the real thing while the rest is CGI, and is the guitar the one that looks like CGI.
>>68638996
Still don't makes any sense ya dangus when talking about fury road. Maybe try watching the movie.
>>68639219
world's most wrong person 2016
>>68638990
you sound as though you could possibly be blind and/or illiterate.
I love how you respond to my comment about Fury Road's technical brilliance by discussing the plot and characters. The surest sign of a pleb is when you see someone talking about plot and characters. You don't know shit about film.
>>68639342
sure thing man how about you give me an example when you can't tell a guy died because he only tilted his head?
>>68639345
you seriously sound like a 14 years old autist
>>68639422
good one
>>68639422
heh, you sure told him
>>68638990
>Anyone could have filmed Fury Road.
This is simply not true
>>68639419
mostly enemy drivers and enemies hanging from cars
>>68639465
well I gave him (you) as much substance as Fury Road.
>>68639528
That was hardly any of the deaths in the movie and plus you see blood coming out from where they got shot.
>>68636583
>I love how plebs have convinced themselves that the original Mad Max movies are some unparalleled works of cinematic excellence
All Mad Max movies are mediocre at best. They're power fantasies with replaceable hollywood-style plots (we need to get from point A to point B). They're no different from comic book movies.
>>68636879
>But isn't conveying the feeling of "WHOA" what makes a movie an action movie and what makes an action movie good?
No. Stories are good in regards to it's total effect. Action is FUCKING BORING when the characters are expandable.
>Does it really need deep philosophical discussions or complex characters and would it really be an action movie then?
If you want it to be good art (or arguably, art at all), there should be some other intention besides selling tickets.
Technically, this movies is for whatever reason overrated. Nothing about it technically is impressive. Cinematographically it's bland; nothing exceptional about the landscape, designs, or angles. The action choreography is no better than Fast Five or The Dark Knight Rises; no more impressive at least. The acting is irrelevant, all the characters are either too cool for emotions or cartoon characters. There's nothing about this movie that makes "refreshing" or different in the greater scheme of cinema. Ir's only refreshing if all you see are modern blobkbusters from 2010 and later. Hell, Pirates of the Carribean would be just as refreshing.
>>68639345
> Fury Road's technical brilliance
>>68639686
>>68639647
you still aint disproving the fact that you don't really know anything about actual film making.
>>68636563
Only non pleb in this thread
>>68634449
They should make a Mad Max of the sea.
Half the fucking movie is played at 2x speed, how on EARTH did it get an Oscar for best editing?
No plot, really just average characters, I liked the worldbuilding and style but that's about it
He should throw in some Hokuto Shin Ken
>>68639745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP_h152ftBM
>>68639748
>>68639748
Dude I don't have to do it again as you haven't offered a proper retort since you went back to plebbit for your hugbox.
>>68639843
The 2x speed is just the style of the movie. You might not like it but it doesn't mean that it was bad editing.
>>68639897
>I don't have to do it again
but you never did. I am not talking about plot and characters, I am talking about actual film making.
>>68639862
makes me want to watch it again
>>68634449
It's not even better than the first two Mad Max movies (still a pretty good movie though).
>>68640083
I would say
mad max = best villain
Road warrior = best pacing
Thunderdome = best world building
Fury Road = best action
Die Hard is the greatest action movie ever made.
This is an objective fact.
>>68640008
And it's already been discussed, also writing is a pretty integral part of film making but do ignore it as the autist you are.
>>68640291
you saying that it was nothing special the way it was shot shows you know nothing
>>68640815
Jesus christ, you are just nothing but butthurt I see.
wew lad
