Is the "no kill rule" the most retarded trope in comic book movies?
Killing is necessary when you're fighting crime or supervillains.
>>68247931
Cops in the UK get by just fine without guns.
Batman doesn't use guns
>>68247931
but that makes you a criminal too
>>68247955
Yes he does you fucking idiot
>>68247955
>mfw amerilards think they need guns when batman doesn't
>>68247949
>rapedpolicewoman.webm
>>68247949
Cops in pretty much every country except the US get by just fine without guns.
>ftfy
>>68247955
So far Batman is always better when using guns and not giving a fuck if a degenerate thug lives or dies
>>68247949
>UK
>crime
do teenage edgelords armed with plastic knives count as crime?
>>68247931
They want the villains to be around for sequels. That's it.
>Kills tons of thugs
>Doesn't kill the Joker
>>68247931
Superman is "no kill" (unless there is absolutely no other way
Batman is "no executing" and "no guns" (personal guns, not in general)
>>68247961
So does vigilantism, kidnapping, assault, battery, child endangerment, etc.
>>68248004
But Britain is full of bomb-mad mudslimes.
When did the "no kill" thing start? Pretty sure Batman was killing fools in the comics and flicks in the 80's and 90's.
>>68248058
30s and 40s Batman killed people all the time too.
>>68248011
He did, the Joker in Suicide Squad is Robin.
>>68248097
That's bullshit but I believe it.
>>68247949
You literally said this just to start an argument you fucking faggot.
>>68248114
>>68247931
>thinking frank miller is good.
Wewlad
Kept them somewhat interesting/debuffed, as they had to solve their problems without killing people.
Best Superman stories are him making the biggest asspulls, sometimes not even involving something that could be fixed by killing a dude.
Batman just turned into the Punisher. The fan theory about Joker may be a thing, but every other villain is essentially dead now.
>>68248187
B-but Year One?
The heroes are supposed to be people and have legitimate flaws. You could invalidate 90% of plot in comic books and other things with two statements:
>cut the emotional bullshit
>do your job
All you're left with is generic action stars.
Remember too that a lot of superheroes are just vigilantes when you look at it objectively. Many have training or some background in crimefighting or dangerous work but they're still just people who happen to have powers or amazing ability or wealth or some asset, and they volunteer their own time to help. Personal motive is going to influence a lot of what they decide to do, including dumb things like the no kill rule.
>>68248187
He is.
>>68247931
>never held a job
>never kissed a girl
>never moved out of parents' house
>killing is necessary
meme
>>68247931
Batman, being a regular guy, needs a know kill rule to be remotely believable.
A batman who kills people? Why doesn't he just use a gun? That's way scarier then a silly bat outfit.
Just ask Frank.
>>68248322
Don't talk about him like that again. If you do, you'll regret it. This is your one warning.
>>68248338
And somehow Frank is more relatable than Prep-time and Kung Fu Man.
>>68248354
He doesn't scare me. I'm an Americlap so chances are I'll end up getting shot by him or someone exactly like him at some point in my life.
>>68247931
Yes
>Batman killed in the early comics
>"We need to appeal to kids!"
>Batman doesn't kill
>Go to cinema: Batman kills
>"Not muh comics!"
Seriously, people who are surprised that superheroes kill are autistic children that need to be comforted with idealistic morals.
>>68248474
so you're saying cinema batman doesn't appeal to kids
>>68247931
Comic books are generally retarded
>>68247949
>Bongland
>>68248474
But none of Marvel's heroes has the no-kill rule, whole Batman and Superman have had it as a part of their characters enough for people to expect it from them.
>>68248474
When was Bucky ever like this?
>>68248474
A reminder that the original Human Torch killed Hitler in Marvel.
>>68248322
I won't lie, that guy is handsome as fuck. He's like a more refined Jeremy Renner.
>>68248503
I'm saying that the only ones complaining about Batman killing are grown men who cite that it's not like their comic book. Kids probably enjoy the action in the films and don't give a shit.
>>68248581
Brubaker's run on Captain America
I can understand why a vigilante wouldn't want to play the role of executioner, but gotham itself is retarded for not executing the joker after his death count
>>68248474
People who interested in tales of superheroes are autistic children that need to be comforted with idealistic morals.
>>68247931
Punisher can get away murdering criminals because there are always more nig nogs or mexicans or irish terrorists. If Batman kills the joker, writters would be forced to create the prankster or some bullshit.
>>68248705
Not actually the reason whatsoever, but believe whatever you wish.
>>68247931
That's because superheroes are vigilantes and what they do is technically illegal. The police department lets them get away with it as long as they leave a living body to show up in court. To kill criminals on the street is to deny them a fair and public trial by a jury of their peers. That isn't justice.
>>68247931
haha that fucking mug, worst batman ever. FFS...
>>68248187
2 of 5 best batman stories belong to frank miller pleb.
>>68248733
>Not actually the reason whatsoever
Are you kidding me? Are you honestly saying they don't kill off the villains for some other reason than that they're marketable?
Please don't tell me you believe that.
>>68248558
"Get a life, bin that knife" will never not make me laugh.
Brits are so pathetic lmao.
You are now aware that you live in a world, a terrifying world, where there are people right this moment who use terms such as "trope", "canon" and "cinematic universe" when talking about films and television shows.
A terrifying world where imagined characters on a screen are required, according to those who discuss them, to adhere to "ground rules" set out by the creators of said-characters. A terrifying world where those that discuss these characters and their actions, are actually enraged if said-characters deviate from the mannerisms expected of them, the mannerisms that may have initially been set in the pages of a comic book.
Think about that. A comic book. For children. Yes, pictures and words on the same page, which are meant to be read by children, that are actually read by adults who then bicker and express their frustration at film-adaptations of these comic books not being "faithful". Faithful to a comic book. That's supposed to be read by young children.
This is your world. This is the world of capeshit. Terrifying, isn't it?
>>68248784
What's terrifying about it? At least we aren't killing people over differing views of comic book canon.
>>68248780
Mostly mafia dudes, really.
I.e., people who avoid the legal system entirely.
>>68248808
>"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that... There is a small group of fans that do not like comic sidekicks. They want the films to be tough like The Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike."
- George Lucas
>"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
- Simon Pegg
>"A sweet-faced boy of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a hundred times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
- Alec Guinness
>"I don't think they are making [comic book movies] an elevated art form, I think it's still just Batman running around in a stupid cape.. It's for kids, it's adolescent in its core. "
- David Cronenberg
>"I don't want to see or make films about super heroes that fly around in spandex and a cape solving the problems of the world. I think it's fine for children, children of all ages by the way, but it's not for me."
- William Friedkin
>“They have been poison, this cultural genocide, Because the audience is so overexposed to plot and explosions and shit that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human.”
- Alejandro Iñárritu
>"Superman makes me vomit, Batman and all of that. That whole empire... this religion... It is so important that superheroes suffer... I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States."
- Alejandro Jodorowsky
>"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence"
Alan Moore
>>68248474
>this weird, cringy explanation for why a modernized Captain America would have a plucky young sidekick
>"uuuh he was like, a combination propaganda symbol for kids / secret OSS assassin"
This is why taking old superhero ideas and trying to "modernize" them nad make them "realistic" doesn't work for me, shit just doesn't fit and it comes off as even more silly than the old material
>>68248784
Yeah, why would people want faithful adaptations of characters they enjoy? Fuck those idiots right.
>>68248852
>Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy
B-but I've been a nerd since the 90's and I used to get bullied during elementary school for liking Spider-Man.
>>68248852
>>"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence"
>Alan Moore
And what's so bad about this?
Life's shit, get over it. May as well enjoy some escapism while we can.
>>68248852
Based Iñarritu
>>68247955
>>68248879
>taking old superhero ideas and trying to "modernize" them nad make them "realistic" doesn't work for me
You should see what they have done to wonder woman lately. I really hope this shit doesn't make it's way into her movie.
>>68248923
DELETE THIS
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>68247931
it's a classic hero trope, heroes don't kill unless they have no other choice
>>68248913
same damn comic
>>68248898
You don't understand, you're not actually living life if you don't wallow in how shitty it is, and surround yourself with art that reminds constantly you that it's all meaningless and nobody will even remember we existed in 100 years.
Go watch your "fun" movies, children. I'll be over here watching REAL cinema and then hanging myself in the garage because beauty is pain.
>>68247949
Someone post that webm of the 10 bongland cops running away scared from 1 black guy pls
>>68248961
D-doesn't count.
In a short story, not killing the villains can be interesting, ala the animated DC Universe. Also helps that most the villains refrained from killing as well.
The comics have been going for so fucking long, though. They got to the point where keeping batmans villains alive is just a bad idea entirely. If anything, joker would have a lobotomy by now. Superman manages to keep his villains in control, at least.
The movies don't have the excuse of lasting for 50+ years, they're short stories that can operate just like the cartoons.
Would help to not rely on Zack too.
>>68248923
Wonder SJWoman, yeah fuck that shit.
>>68248923 please tell that shit is edited in... fucking tumblr even stole comics...
>>68248961
well obviously he's not going to trust an army of kids who were mutants 15 minutes ago with guns.
>>68247998
Well cops here mostly fight crime by veing paid off and pretending there is no crime
Also sometimes they gangrape a woman, but then they have four witnesses against one and it doesn't even go to court
They again, they love to walk around with handguns or flail old soviet submachineguns around, so the no gun policy doesn't even apply
>>68248004
No, but hundreds of thousands of children in sex slavery do
>>68249085
Britain law ruled that it wasn't crime since it was just muslim practicing their religion peacefully.
>>68248474
So why don't they just all go 100% Punisher?
>Errrrrr
>>68249065
India? Africa? What shit hole country are you in?
>>68249116
Because if the villains were killed off, they'd stop making money off of them.
>>68249110
And also the BBC had all those kids sign liability waivers before they got to meet Jimmy.
>>68249116
>Not killing
>Killing everybody
Why does your mind only work in simplified extremes? There is a difference between Batman killing criminals who shoot at him in self-defense and just sniping them from afar in cold blood.
>>68248961
Miller is a hack, news at eleven
>>68249118
Hungary
>>68247931
I think batman is the personification of the fallibility of corporal punishment
Ive never read the comics so im sure he probably just outright says this somewhere along the lines
Its also helpful not to take capeshit seriously. Its just a product to be bought.
Do you look into Minions and the Kardashians with as much scrutiny? I hope not... Apply that lack of scrutiny to this childish shit and focus on things that matter like reality
>>68249287
Actually Batman is just Bruce Wayne's way of letting out steam and letting himself feel like he's actually doing something to stop crime even though he's just making everything worse.
>>68249321
why does he let off steam in such a bitch lethalless way
>hooked car
Not Batmans fault those guys didnt crawl out
No proof they died
>crushed car
Not Batmans fault if they didnt duck in time
No proof they died
>gatling gun
Not Batmans fault the disabled car fell in his way and he couldnt swerve in time
>truckbed
What does Batman have xray vision, he couldnt see where he would come through wall
>gas truck
That dude wasnt looking at the road, Batman did nothing to him
>batplane
No proof those explosions killed those dudes
>grenade
Not Batmans fault you uncorked a grenade
>flamethrowerr
Not Batmans fault you decided to pull the trigger
No-Kill Rule: Upheld
Trust me, Bat of Manslaughter wont even be referenced in future films.
>>68249392
Because it's the only way he can justify to himself he's somehow better than the people he maims.
>>68249395
I won't kill you, but I won't save you either
>>68249395
Those were the men of KGBeast, not some random thugs who just need a lesson in blood.
Killing them was the only logical choice.
Some people believe in the ideal of not becoming that which you seek to defeat.
>>68249447
>If you snipe Hitler, you're literally Hitler!
I don't follow.
>>68248573
Daredevil
>>68249498
If you snipe Hitler, you already killed more jews than he did
>>68248898
I don't think escapism is inherently bad if it's taken in moderation, but if people have have this childish obsession with fantasy how are they to deal with real life?
>>68249447
what a doomed method...
you wanna show me examples of that working in contemporary geopolitik?
>its a passive aggressive ghandi india episode
i guess thats one good example... should i list 10000 counter examples
>>68249498
>In order to defeat Hitler, I shall become another Hitler!
Has the world profited?
>>68249566
At least he has religious reasons.
>>68249596
>assassinating one person is the same as initiating a genocide and a massive war
I don't follow.
>>68248966
>>68249566
>No kill rule
>Bitches about Elektra and Frank killing
>Tackles Frank to try and stop him from killing
>Finale
>Shares a moment with Frank after he puts bullets in some ninjas
>Throws a guy off the roof without knowing he was immortal and would survive
As much as I like the show, Daredevil was a fucking idiot this season.
>>68249566
Daredevil is more about exposing entire operations than putting a single person in jail/killing them.
He's certainly killed, but usually refrains from doing so as it mucks up stuff and can cause dead ends.
>>68249619
>A superhero would kill one inconvenient person and then retire forever!
You don't follow because you're a daft cunt. Once you cross that line, why wouldn't you go on to murder everyone you find objectionable?
Guess that, then you're Hitler.
>SELECT ALL THE RVS YOU OBTUSE TWAT
>>68249596
If you put the entire people of germany in ovens to stop Hitler, yes you are him.
>>68249700
>Implying every soldier who's killed goes on to murder more people as a civilian.
>Having a black and white worldview.
You are the daft cunt here.
>>68249700
What's with the slippery slope there, mate?
Nobody complains about Batman killing people in BvS because he was fighting Luthor's PMC contractor guys - soldiers who had orders to kill him. There's a difference between killing those guys in the heat of battle and executing people like The Punisher does.
When he's fighting crime Batman doesn't kill anyone, so I'd say the no-kill rule is upheld to a realistic standard.
>>68249769
>>68249755
Are you suggesting Batman and Superman have only one person in their rogue's gallery who should be killed to save future innocents from death?
>>68249755
It's called a slippery slop, desensitization, justification.
It's the same reason a good innocent catholic girl can end up a whore. After the first time there's less reason not to just do it again.
Batman is constantly doing things that could kill someone.
The no kill rule is delusional at best.
>>68247931
>Kills the joker
>Movie is over is 10 minutes
Good luck with that
>>68249890
I'm talking proportionality here. Compare killing Joker to killing Hitler. I don't care if Joker literally is not responsible for millions of deaths, don't bother sperging about it. Just look at the situation. As long as he's alive, he's going to keep destroying and ending lives. Killing him does not automatically mean Batman is the same as him. Batman would not have done the things he had, Batman would not go on to do the things he had done.
Do you get me?
>>68249942
Yep and no doubt Hitler starting out thinking "Eh I'll just dispossess the Heebs and herd them into ghettos. That'll do the trick." and then "well shit okay work camps, let's put them to use and if a few of them die oh well" and then bam Zylon B and Ralph Fiennes and eternal infamy
>>68249999
Nice slippery slope fallacy, I see you have no actual arguments so why don't you just stop?
>>68247931
You do realize we're talking about comic books and movies based on comic books right?
>>68248879
Except that kind of propaganda is firmly rooted in reality.
>>68247931
>Is the "no kill rule" the most retarded trope in comic books?
Yes. Yes it is.
>>68248961
he doesn't like guns cause some nigger shot his parents with a gun.
>>68250066
>>68249931
>>68249890
>>68249854
Didn't Batman kill the Joker in "Gods among us" ?
>>68250103
>>68250138
Aren't these both from "Injustice"? How is this possible?
Theres lots of reasons.
Batman is slightly insane and just cannot accept killing people, it's something he tries to be above and it makes it interesting to see how he defeats bad dudes without just shooting them all.
Also the issue that most of his villains actually are genuinely insane people that need some help, and even if they are bad guys, they're still people with emotions and families.
Theres the fact that he can reuse villains. Killing off everybody would quickly run out of people to use and just gets old. You would have a much harder time creating famous antagonists like Joker if Batman killed him in the first issue.
Theres the thing that it would eventually get boring. Punisher is a perfect example of it. Seeing Frank frank some franks is awesome in short bursts but if you made an entire movie or series about punisher then it'd just get boring because everything is solved by "Frank walks in, shoots everyone, then leaves." You'd have to have something else around that and the dude who just kills everything wouldn't have enough depth to carry that. And you'd have to somehow bullshit how they somehow never kill anyone innocent ever with all their murdering. And something that actually gets brought up in the punisher comics is that Frank's actions never actually fix anything. More criminals just endlessly rise up to take the place of his victims (likely in part due to the aforementioned problem of everything ending to fast if he just kills them).
>>68250209
> Seeing Frank frank some franks is awesome in short bursts but if you made an entire movie or series about punisher then it'd just get boring because everything is solved by "Frank walks in, shoots everyone, then leaves."
I dunno, Punisher MAX is probably the best shit from Marvel I've ever read.
>>68250192
huh? they made a comic series out of the vidya
>>68250232
They probably wouldn't have been able to make 9 Batman movies so far if Batman killed without regard in all of them.
A single movie is fine but I don't know how long Snyder could keep bat of murder going around for.
>>68250374
I know. I mean the Joker being killed twice.
>>68250390
Oh I agree, Batman shouldn't kill his villains. But a series about Frankening would work fine for me.
>>68250232
Punisher MAX is rather self contained. It also has lots of focus on Punisher reflecting on stuff and shows other characters stories a lot. And then it ends withPunisher dead
>>68247931
Yes it is.
>>68250436
uh, I don't remember clearly but it eventually got into Constantine's magic shenanigans and Olympus divine powers so it probably had to do with one of those
the story drifts away too much for its own good
>>68248097
That is so stupid, Robin has always been killed by the joker, and later on became the red hood
>>68250643
But anon, anon, think about this. Remember Arkham Knight? They said Arkham Knight is a new character. And then it WAS JASON ALL ALONG and NOBODY EXPECTED THE TWIST, and they loved it, so if we turn Jason into the Joker people are going to love it even more!
>>68249999
Nice get
>>68247971
Are we really comparing Batman to a regular everyday person? Kill yourself.
>>68247981
>Third Worlders think TV is real life
Ok kid, you're probably wondering when the world came into colour too
>>68252115
>>68252115
>>68252264
Richard Dawkins had sex with Janet Garrison.
>>68251042
>Bruce casually smoking a pipe as the Commissioner berates Batman
What a jerk.
>>68252281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNARnZdOY-Y
>>68252315
Remember in Adam West's Batman when Bruce Wayne talked with Batman on the phone in the commissioner's office?
>>68252346
>that seal
Schumacher you sly dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCkmUS1IYI
>>68247931
In many Batman stories, he doesn't kill because he sees that as the line between him and the rest of the psychos running around Gotham, he feels that if he doesn't hold him self back in that regard nothing will stop him becoming what he is trying so hard to stop.
>>68252409
This is still the best Batman. It also had the best Riddler.
>>68247931
>Batman, Superman, Darkseid, Doomsday, Zod's body, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Lex Luthor, Cyborg
I don't get why people disliked this movie. I guess marvel fans who were mad that Snyder didn't spoon feed all the characters to the normies.
>>68248852
>I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States.
lol this dude's nuts
>>68247998
>This is what American liberals think
>>68248011
He started killing after he returned
He hasen't got a chance to kill joker jet.
>>68248852
>children of all ages by the way, but it's not for me."
- William Friedkin
>>68250103
Batman now kills smugglers just to steal from them.
How are any of his old rogue's gallery still alive to star in Suicide Squad?
>>68254626
Because they were in jail before he went murder happy, they were out of the country and captured by other law enforcement agencies FUCKING REASONS.
>>68247931
Idk DC was the only one that characters with the no-kill rule
>>68247931
If you kill him, you'll be like him.
>>68247931
Because it's morally right although irl people who don't kill die.
That's what it means to be a "hero". Doing what's morally right even if it means certain death.
Heroes are fucking idiots
>>68247931
It's not a trope when it's part of his goddamn character. If you want to adapt a murderous vigilante, you're spoiled for choices. Just don't call him batman.
>>68248002
But that's not Batman, that's the punisher. If you want to watch the punisher, go watch the punisher.
>>68254669
Spider-Man doesn't kill. Because he's Spider-Man, you stupid whore.
DC heroes are about ideals more than reality. Surely no one will deny that in an ideal world, good guys would find ways to stop the bad ones without murder.
>>68247931
Of course it is OP.
The no kill rule comes from an era where villains were just kidnappers and bank robbers, and it justifies them coming back in comic books.
It was a much lighter era for kids, its not like they could depict death, pic related.
It is absolutely retarded to apply now that most supervillains have super powers capable of destroying entire cities or even the world.
It's not "the american way" to save them, our government would obliterate the shit out of it.
It made Man of Steel utterly retarded "oh no, I must kill this guy to save those 3 people even though he already killed thousands! Woe is me, I killed this poor soul who would've spent the rest of his life in prison vowing for revenge until his inevitable escape and new rampage!
And then you have literal monsters like Grundy the Zombie, what the flying fuck.
>>68254842
DC heroes are about recoloring superman and giving them different logos.
>>68247981
you can put spaces in file names
>>68254956
It's a stupid idea to apply the same rules to all characters. Some of them might cross the line, some others won't, even if it drives them a bit crazy.
Batman isn't one of the ones that cross the line willy-nilly. That's why showing him shooting a gun is a shocking picture, not the norm.
>>68248187
What does saying wewlad in response to that even mean
>>68254978
NOT IN MUH UNIX
>>68254956
And then you have the arkham games.
Picture this: You're an average 4channer dwelling in your appartment.
Then you hear the local asylum was overtaken by prisoners, tons of policemen died, billions of damage, but it's okay, batman save the day!
... but then those same convicts end up getting a WHOLE PAN OF THE CITY to reform! And they utterly ruin it, roam free, and kill the innocent one! Until batman save the day again!
... and then yet another supervillain literally cause the entire city to evac and be overtaken. But hey, Batman can save the day again! And his car has stun rounds!
... if you were any of those citizen, you'd be pissed beyond hell, because Batman "no kill rule" at this point is just an excuse for him to keep playing with his toys, while you, the random citizen, has to suffer the same villains butchering your life over and over again.
>>68255003
It's not about the character, it's about the era.
Again, batman made sense in that era, by not killing them NOW, it makes HIM a murderer by proxy because he knows 100% the villains he capture will always escape and kill more people after.
>>68247931
Superheroes are NOT representatives of the law.
Superheroes are overly rich children of weapon manufacturing/selling parents, who compensate all that blood money they relish in , with one or two stopped bank robberies (robbers were probably just desperate parents who needed money for diapers).
Core morality of superhero(BTW. it's USA invention back around WWI to raise moral, at least in this white/black form) is one of a 10 year old.
>>68247931
That's the point of Batman. it's so easy to kill, it just takes one turn of the screw and he becomes the thing he hates the most.
He'll never kill because he's the symbol of purity and willpower.
It's somewhat annoying true because everything goes back to the status quo.
But it would be awesome if Batman became the ready-to-kill version of Superman in Injustice. He'd take over Ra's league and pick off all the criminals and superheroes one by one and be the last man standing and rule the world from the shadows.
>>68255081
This.
It even applies to superman. "oh no, this one out of 3 billions woman I loved was killed! Time to turn into a genocidal supermaniac who rule the entire earth with an iron fist!
>>68255122
I hate comic shit but that wasn't the point.
Superman for the first time in his life felt fear and he absurdly over reacted. He lost his child and wife and he's never felt vulnerable before.
>>68248762
One of the only legit reasons
you guys are fucking losers.
>>68255331
So are comic readers.
Batman used to have a gun
>>68247931
I don't particularly care if heroes kill or not
How many people cringe when they hear superman saying he fight for "truth justice and the american way?"
>>68249018
Late to the party but bud...
Zsasz has killed way more people since Batman started locking him up than he ever did before.
Batman killed Zsasz's victims.
>>68255603
You think thats bad?
If batman is 100% okay with killing, theres literally no point to being batman.
Why be the world's greatest martial artist and spend all your time handing out beat downs left and right when there's no difference to you if the people live or die? The punisher clears out whole rooms of bad guys with a grenade and moves on, why not do that?
Batman being stealthy and frightening to criminals only matters if being nonlethal is important to him.
>>68248923
>mansplaining = truth
kekerino
>>68255603
>unsolicited opinions on israel
every time
>>68256082
>>68256082
Why is every character in Marvel written as kinda smug? I'm tired of hearing stupid quips and one-liners.
I wish capeshitters had a kill rule where they off themselves by the thousands with every new release
>>68250643
>That is so stupid, Robin has always been killed by the joker, and later on became the red hood
Not really been following the DC movies, but supposedly the bullet holes in Leto match holes in the robin suit in the batcave, so Robin = Joker is apparently what they're going with in Suicide Squad.
>>68255603
Canceled due to nobody reading it.
>>68256082
This will end up the same way too.
SJWs don't buy or read comics. They just complain. Marvel is only staying afloat due to its older comics and film studios.
>>68254669
Marvel heroes tend to avoid killing if they can. Cap won't kill unless he's on a battlefield, for instance.
Iron Man though... There was a scene where he was rushing around the world and got in a fight with a variant of MODOK and pretty much said "I don't have time for this shit", flew him into the upper atmosphere, ripped him out of his chair and let him go. Top kek
>>68255061
Lol what? In that case everyone in the world is a murderer for not killing the Joker.
No, the only thing that would make him a murderer is, you know, murdering someone.
>>68250192
First one is where Superman kills Joker after Joker destroys his city and kills his wife and kid.
Second one is a dream world where Batman killed the joker before he did anything. So Batman gave up and put himself in jail and Superman thanks him and lives a happy life.
>>68247931
That's absolutely a fair statement to make. Unfortunately, it is a core tenant of the character. If that takes you out of enjoying the character, I would direct you to other characters. If you cannot be faithful to the core tenants of a character while making a movie about them, I would direct you to making a movie about a different character.
Fundamentally, the no kill rule exists for comics as a medium because if a hero is killing all of their rogues, writers are burdened with needing to create new compelling villains for every new story.
Admittedly, that isn't necessarily a problem for movies as they aren't released with the same frequency as comics, therefore it isn't a problem for screenwriters. With that said, not every character has so vocally denounced killing or using guns to the degree Batman has.
As has always been the case, Snyder should have chosen to play with The Authority instead of the Justice League. Those are characters similar enough to DC's that lend themselves more towards Zack's tone, brand of Justice, as well as setting style.
>>68247931
So just like /tv/ contrarians started convincing themselves that the Star Wars prequels to justify hating TFA, now you're going to start convincing yourselves that canon Batman is stupid to justify liking BVS.
>>68247931
Batman is fucking crazy. If he started killing he'd become a full psycho
Yes.
>>68261775
I feel the best thing you could do is end it all and leave forever
>>68248966
True art comes from suffering, fggt
This movie about superman makes a great point over the no killing rule.
>>68263697
Just watched it the first time.
It had one of the best Louis Lanes.
What I didn't like was the first time he tried to talk the Elite out of killing was a little bit half assed.
The ARE good arguments against killing Super heroes, but he was too general for me.
>>68248808
Yeah, killing over fictional gods is way better
>>68247931
>doesn't trust the government(and by extension its legal system)
>doesn't even trust his teammates
>fully aware that arkham is a revolving door
>hurp durp killing is wrong
Batman has never made sense. He should go back to the campy cartoonish mold he came from.
>>68248097
Please. No way Warners would have such a shitty mystery resolved with such an obvious twist in a major multi million dollar Batman franchise.
>>68248852
>Alan Moore
>>68247931
is this when /tv/ realizes superhero movies, comic books, and superheroes in general are for children?
>>68248913
> implying that was a fatal wound
It's only a fatal wound if the reader wants it to be.
Snyder wanted it to be, then he used that one ambiguous panel as an excuse to make HIS version of Batman without having the balls to admit it was his own interpretation of the character.
>>68248961
>same damn comic
See. You're assuming Snyder actually read the text and understood it, not just looked for awesome visuals that would look totes awesome on screen, bro.
>>68250103
>>68253148
>>>/v/ ----->
>>68249243
Join Jobbik
>>68254788
Batman has killed someone in literally every film adaptation except for the Adam West movie and Batman and Robin.
>>68248913
>I believe you
So do comic book movies have any originality to them, or are they just adapting various volumes into a a single movie?
>>68248114
Welcome to 4chan.
>>68247949
If you count 5000 groomed and raped children, yeah. They do.
