How did you feel about Quantum of Solace? I think it's criminally underrated, sitting at 58 on metacritic and 61 or so on RT.
People say it wasn't true to the Bond formula but that's one of the things I liked about it.
>>68244098
It's alright
Olga is best part
Olga is the best of all the Craig Bond girls
>>68244098
>we will never get another bond film with a BMW
>>68244098
its my most favorite daniel craig bond film.
but i like to watch CR and QoS in a row
>>68244098
it's shit.
>>68244268
so's ur mum
not nearly as bad as Spectre
It's Bond meets Bourne, but it works
>>68244268
olga a qt
>there will never be a Bond opening as good as this
Say what you will about Daniel Craig as James Bond, but the man looks good in a suit.
>>68244098
Everyone says its confusing and, honestly, I have to agree
There was a lot to like about it, but something about the story and the way it progressed was just confusing as fuck.
>Inb4 retard
Part of the craft of making a film is making it coherent, and I just dont think they did an excellent job in that regard. Its a shame cause it had some great moments, characters, themes and locations. And two of the best bong girls.
>>68244350
QoS was extremely /fa/, possibly the most of all the Craig films.
Disapointment after how good Casino Royale turned out. But after Spectre I feel Quantum was just alright.
Fucking Spectre, what a terrible Bond movie.
>>68244098
The woman is so beautiful. Oddly though, she looks vaguely like a super hot sexy Dora the Explorer.
>>68244098
it's a companion movie to close up some things from casino royale
casino royale is a 9
quantum is a 7
both together are an 8
>>68244295
>>68244389
Spectre felt like a TV movie
>>68244098
I'd give it a lower score desu. One of the most forgettable flicks I've ever seen.
>>68244441
>Mathieu Amalric as a Bond villain
that alone keeps it from being forgettable to me desubh
>>68244098
>>68244098
>>68244098
VIRAL MARKETING SPAMMER
A Sony shill is behind the constant bond threads in an attempt to viral market
>>68244478
>post Ben Hur
>FUCKING MGM SHILL SPAMMER REEEEEE
>>68244478
viral marketing a movie that came out years ago? sure
2 years ago i posted that QoS was a great film.
i was utterly roasted and humiliated by the mountain of people who disagreed.
several months ago i saw first thread, not made by me that alleged QoS was a great film.
i now predict in 2 years QoS will be considered the greatest bond film by /tv/
i will be vindicated. screencap this
CR > QoS > Skyfall > SPECTRE
Sad that the big reveal movie was the lamest
It is underrated. It's certainly better than Mendez and his soapy bullshit mixed with capeshit-tier plots. It might just be the most operator-Bond there is.
>>68244566
I think Casino Royale will continue to hold that title at least among the Craig movies. They're at least equal to one another.
>>68244602
this, Bond was Spetsnaz level frightening in Quantum
>>68244604
CR just did not have the enertainment value QoS had. QoS had a deeper psychological analysis of bond as well.
CR has too much card game in that hotel
>>68244338
>those lyrics
>that arrangement
>those graphics
Quick, post your
>Favorite Connery bond movie
>Favorite Moore
>Favorite Dalton
>Favorite Brosnan
>Favorite Craig
>>68244566
You know Craig isn't the first actor to play James Bond right?
>>68244716
>>Favorite Connery bond movie
there can only be one
>>Favorite Moore
>>Favorite Dalton
>>Favorite Brosnan
>>Favorite Craig
QoS
I thought critically skyfall was regarded the most highly of the Craig films?
>>68244716
>Favorite Connery bond movie
Goldfinger
>Favorite Moore
For your eyes only
>Favorite Dalton
Living daylights
>Favorite Brosnan
Goldeneye
>Favorite Craig
Casino Royale
>>68244098
Writers strike happened, they filmed with an unfinished script. It shows.
>>68244670
Yeah, that's the pacing of older Bond movies and I don't like it either.
>>68244756
RT scores are useless if that's what you're referencing, the amount of two bit newspaper reviewers in small towns that they include in their critic reviews turn their scores into "Who paid the most for marketing and bought more reviewers"
>>68244756
I marathoned the Craig bond films, so they all kind of bleed into one movie for me, but I do remember liking the intro sequence to Skyfall the most.
>>68244716
>>Favorite Connery bond movie
You Only Live Twice
>>Favorite Moore
For Your Eyes Only
>>Favorite Dalton
License to Kill
>>Favorite Brosnan
Goldeneye
>>Favorite Craig
Casino Royale. Hated Skyfail.
>>68244670
That's funny, I found QoS to be really boring; I was never invested in the villain and the story really fell apart in the third act (obviously due to the writers' strike)
>>68244756
Critics are a bunch of plebs anyway.
>>68244098
Terribly so. Never understood why Brits in particular loathed this movie so much until I realized that a major premise of the initial plot - why Bond has to go rogue - is because the wee MI6 must eagerly bow to the demand of the almighty American CIA to stop pursuing Dominic Green. Looks like that hit too close to home for some.
Quantum the organization was gold, and far more threatening than spectre. It's absurd to retcon Quantum as a subsidiary of Spectre and not the other way around.
>>68244098
>forgettable plot
>shit also forgettable villain
best thing about it was the action scenes. but the editor they hired seemed to taken too much cocaine
>>68244840
I liked the villain because he was a very realistic villain in the world of things like the TPP. Also I like Amalric in general. His voice in QOS was spooky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXee0DoiLzw
>>68244716
>Favorite Connery bond movie
From Russia With Love
>Favorite Moore
The Spy Who Loved Me
>Favorite Dalton
The Living Daylights
>Favorite Brosnan
Goldeneye
>Favorite Craig
Casino Royale
>>68244840
>never invested in the villain
It's not that kind of movie. It's more about the spygames and the politics behind. What I like about it are the touches of realism by added different viewpoints. Like when Mr.White starts to laugh when M asks him about Quantum because so far, they've been paranoid as hell about being found.
>>68244566
It wasn't your time, senpai. It just wasn't your time.
>>68244926
Archer's face looks like the dude from Facade
>>68244756
Yeah, by normies. It doesn't feel like a Bond movie at all, also, villain's ridiculousness is inconsistent with the tone of the movie.
It is damn beautiful tho, I'll give them that.
>>68245070
>gay cybercriminal from South America
It was two steps away from putting him in a fursuit. Having a base on that abandoned island in Japan was cool though.
When will we get a Bond movie in Australia
>>68245115
I was more upset about his idiotic plan that worked out just perfectly.
>something something getting caught something something plan
In a less serious and dark Bond all kinds of crazy shit can happen and that wouldn't have bothered me. But here, it just doesn't fit in.
>>68245223
>survived a cyanide pill
Why was he mad at M about that?
>>68245017
The presentation of Quantum as a shadowy Spectre expy was done far better than, well, Spectre. It's the slow, understated reveal that absolutely sells Quantum as a real, global threat. A criminal network that's truly intangible and whose reach into the highest echelons of government power never has to be explicitly shown but feels all the more dangerous because the audience can't see it.
>"It's so amusing because we're on the other side thinking, 'oh the MI6 the CIA - they're looking over our shoulders, they're listening to our conversations', and the truth is you don't even know we exist."
>"The first thing you should know about us is we have people everywhere. Amirite?"
>>68245373
5 star post
>>68244716
>Connery
Thunderball
>Moore
Live and Let Die
>Dalton
Living Daylights
>Brosnan
Die Another Day
>Craig
Casino Royale
>>68244361
Can you describe some confusing parts explicitly? I just have a hard time understanding this criticism. As I see it,>bond immediately kidnaps guy who was handler of eyepatch man (end of royale)
>double agent that bond kills has money from same sack that lechiffre had and which just got given to a hit man in Haiti
>bond goes to Haiti, kills hit man and finds girl hit man was supposed to kill in brief case that was delivered to hit man
>girl got sent to hit man. She ditches bond after finding out "he's" supposed to kill her
>bond follows her to dock and sees Dominique
The rest is kind of simple, right?
>>68245515
>when M says "high-e-tee" instead of "hay-tee"
>>68244716
Gold finger
Spy who loved me (Moore)
Casino royale
>>68244098
Its a piece of shit.
>>68244682
>that opening gunbarrel
>>68244872
Anything can be a subsidiary of anything if they want to write it that way, but I agree that the secretly evil environmentalist thing was much better than the organization with politicians planted in each country (apparently, the currently flavor what with winter soldier and some other movies going that route).
>>68246058
the latter is easier for normies to grasp between fistfuls of popcorn
It's my favorite of the Craig Bond films - it builds on the work done by Dalton and turns Bond into an interesting, broken character rather than some adolescent wish fulfillment fantasy. QoS is a sparse film - it strips away nearly everything unnecessary and reveals Bond as a psychopath whose lifestyle is ultimately unfulfilling. Stopping sinister conspiracies is not fun, and people who travel around the world killing other people are usually not mentally healthy. QoS was exceptional at challenging the traditional Bond narrative and the audience that demands it.
It's a shame they undid all of that progress with the next few films.
>>68244338
GOAT non-bond movie bond intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM3O_EX1hCI
>>68244098
Am I the only one who thought Skyfall was absolutely amazing and the best Craig film?
>>68246190
Yes, Skyfall was terrible. I've never seen Javier Bardiem so thoroughly wasted.
>>68246173
Making Bond too unlikable cuts into ticket sales, sadly.
>>68246190
It was very /k/ toward the end but I found it forgettable. Some very good visuals but the villain didn't draw me in.
Patricians: Quantum
Normalfags: Casino Royale
Plebs: Skyfall
Nobody: Spectre
Casino is great, btw, but QoS is special. Good that more people are starting to discover that
Here, have a different version of the opening credits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2dXY9TOKA
>>68246322
The music is too MGS
THank you, everyone in here
I would get shit on constantly for saying such high praise for QoS being a brilliant character of such a broken, psychopathic Bond and for generally such a great, misunderstood film.
I fucking despise how Skyfall and Spectre basically nearly retcon this out of existence
>there will never be a director's cut of Quantum, edited by someone without ADD
>>68246519
it was 2008, i would argue that directors were still ironing the kinks out of nu-school directing
>>68245373
This is what I liked most about the villain. Of course the villain wasn't physically intimidating - corrupt money managers rarely are. They really sold the fact that Quantum was a realistic threat. No one cares about Bolivian water rights, so it's feasible to think that the conspiracy we saw in the movie happened all the time.
An evil organization would not have Christoph Waltz chewing up the scenery in his desert surveillance center.
>>68246519
>>68246552
>babbies can't handle next-level montage
The airplane dialogue between Mathis and Bond is the exact kind of content that sets CR and QoS almost as a different film series than Skyfall and Spectre
>>68246287
Casino is objectively better than qos. Turned a fuckin card game into the most intense shit that ever happened, and the pacing was perfect. The viewer is fully immersed in the card game so that the crazy shit that happens in each intermission of play is almost like a breath of fresh air.
I do like qos, but I think you're being a little reactionary to the plebs who don't like it.
That scene where Bond intimidates the organization at the opera house only to lead to a stare down with manlet is the best scene of the whole Craig run.
Was miles better than Spectre
>>68246459
>I fucking despise how Skyfall and Spectre basically nearly retcon this out of existence
Really pissed me off how Skyfall completely ignored it, and while Spectre brings back Mr. White and ties up that loose end, it was ridiculous how they kept showing stuff from Casino and Skyfall whilst ignoring Quantum.
>>68246560
>when M's bodyguard allahu akbars and reveals he's a double agent
>the super tucano air battle
>boat chase
>>68246595
One of my favorite scenes.
>>68246610
It seemed like a Wes Anderson gag almost, it made me laugh. Funny enough that Aldric went on to act in The Grand Budapest Hotel
>>68246181
Damn that was amazing to watch. Thanks anon.
>>68246613
to be honest I never saw Spectre on the principal that they wrote out Quantum, which was the established "big evil secret organization" as just a fucking IT branch of Spectre.
My friend, who saw it, said that they basically brush over QoS except for Mr. White which I was glad they at least brought back
>>68246599
CR is a better Bond film than QoS, but QoS is more interesting many reasons.
I'd rather have a bunch of not entirely successful experiments than an endless stream of sleak blockbusters. Art should be brave, especially pop art.
>>68244716
>Favorite Connery
Thunderball
>Favorite Moore
Man with the Golden Gun
>Favorite Dalton
HAHAHAHAHA
>Favorite Brosnan
Goldeneye
>Favorite Craig
CR
>>68246641
They really outdid themselves on the set pieces. M's bodyguard betraying her instantly was a masterstroke.
>>68246190
Skyfall's only real disservice to everyone was nu male Q
>>68246568
>babbies
>montage
A car chase isn't a montage. The one that opens the film is incomprehensible the first time you see it because they won't stop cutting for a half second to let the viewer get their bearings.
>>68246764
>Bond didn't fuck Q in Skyfall
missed opportunities
>>68246707
I don't think you're giving casino royale enough credit. They kill the girl at the end. It was certainly a grand departure from other bond films. And I agree with you, if quantum were just an extension of casino, that would suck. I like the broken bond in the movie. It just feels to me a little more repetitive than casino. In casino the initial scene was the flavoring, then there was the cat and mouse game with the guy in Bahamas, then the save the day scene at the airport, the card game, the stairwell fight that carried actual gravitas, and finally the torture scene. In quantum I felt like I was just seeing bond infiltrate a series of different locations in repetitive fashion. Kidnapping, killing the hit man, saving the girl, infiltrating the play, etc.
>when bond drives a fucking Ford Mondeo in the Bahamas
poor form
>>68246781
>Bond
>gay
