All memes aside, does anyone here really agree with the pic related?
I do. But BvS wasn't that bad. Should be 40-60% in RT. Well flop is a flop anyway.
In a way, Avengers 2 was a let down but I wasn't bored or annoyed 90% of the movie because the movie actually made sense.
Batman v Superman was both boring and annoying 90% of the movie and most of it made no sense.
Last capeshit movie I saw was Dark Knight Rises on demand in 2013, its probably way better than both of these.
>>68222850
i can't believe this
90 good reviews???
AoU is rated WAY too high
BvS is a 6/10
>>68222850
yes AoU is decent
Sort of. Batman V Superman was the first movie I walked out of since Battlefield Earth. It made the Avengers, which is pretty shit itself, look like a 78%.
All the people defending BvS are comic book 20-something virgins who only care about seeing digital superfights, they story can be shit and they dont care.
non-fanboys have more realistic priorities, as in a good story
thats why it has a 28%
I never trust fanboys opinions on a good movie. You will never get an honest opinion
>>68222850
no
MOTY so far
both are too high
capeshit marketing people have really done an excellent job of making people who don't like Marvel films feel like they have to defend BvS when really you should just equally scorn all of this children's shit no matter which jews own the rights to the characters
>>68223047
>if I disagree with his opinion that makes him a fanboy
>>68223138
Fanboy or shit opinion by someone who defends shit. Either way you're fucking shit.
>>68222850
I think AoU is way better than BvS because at least it's a competently made movie even if it has too many quips. BvS has severe editing problems and shitty writing.
>>68222927
so, when thor went off to bath in a cave and have magic visions you knew what was going on?
BvS was a 3/10
Age of Ultron was a 5/10
>>68223124
this desu
>Age of Ultron: 6.7
>Batman v Superman: 4.9
I agree
I don't know about bvs but i agree with the actual rating for aou i found it boring
>>68222850
>all memes aside
>/tv/
>capeshit
does not compute
Batman v Superman was a 6/10
Age of Ultron was a 3/10
How come nobody complained when ultron blew up a whole city while trying to destroy the world, but in man of steel and B Vs S everybody was so triggered by similar things?
fuck off reddit you gay homo faggot
>>68222850
I agree completely.
AoU had problems, but BvS was almost laughably bad.
Inb4 shill or some dumb shit.
If you look at the average ratings, then yes. AOU is a 6 for me for the sole reason that Fucking Ultron was reduced to a quip spouting Redditbot. Other small gripes include the retarded love subplot between Hulk and Black Slutow, an ungodly amount of quips, and the pointless death of Quicksilver. All other aspects were great fun.
>>68223366
Ultron is a villain.
Superman is a "hero"
This isn't hard to figure out, dumbass.
>>68222850
Yes.
AoU is awful but is coherent at least.
>>68223366
Because Marvel is for kids. Kids don't give a fuck about politics, morality, they just want to laugh and to watch Iron Man fight with his awesome suit. That's understandable, but BvS was 60% talk, 20% Jesse Eisenberg being Joker, 20% fight, and waiting 1h40m is too much for kids. Not even a DC shill desu, but seeing a movie that was okay getting bashed for the pleasure of bashing, that's just dumb.
>>68223633
Zod bew up metropolis, not superman. Youre the dumbass, faggot. Also tony stark built ultron for no reason so its all completely his fault
>>68223638
This
>>68222850
>6.6 vs 4.9
Sounds good to me.
>>68222850
Non-ironic capeshit thread? In my /tv/?
>>68222850
No Age of Ultron was fucking horrific. Like a film specifically for 12 year olds.
>>68223638
not really. Ultron had alot more characters and subplots than even batman vs superman did. Both of these movies are guilty of the same problem of setting up too many movies at the same time
>>68223785
At least one
>>68222850
How does rotten tomatoes scoring work?
BvS averaged 4.9/10, which should be a percentage of 49%, but got 28%.
Meanwhile CW averaged 6.7/10 (67%), but scored 75%.
>>68224407
I dont get it either. When a movie gets a mediocre review does that count as fresh or rotten?
>>68224407
Didn't notice this was AoU, not civil war.
>>68224407
It's broken down by recommends vs not recommends. That's it. Anything above a 5 is a recommend.
>>68224407
>>68224445
Is that bait?
The Rotten Tomatoes means how many liked it.
If it says 100% it means everyone likes it, but not how much.
It still can also just mean they give said movie 7/10.
>>68222927
>and most of it made no sense.
What parts were you lost on my young huddle dick baby
they're on the same level
>>68224728
Nowhere near.
AOU is actually good.
>>68224445
5.9: rotten
6.1: fresh
6.0: they judge if the review tends more to positive or to negative
>>68222850
AoU was great. It just wasn't the first trailer. But we'll get what AoU should have been with civil war so everything is fine!
>>68223857
The critical difference for me is best exemplified by the way they handle their shitty set ups. Compare - Thor's kiddie pool dream enlightenment vs Batman's trippy future sight. Both are shoehorned to hell, both feel forced as fuck. But AoU at least had the decency to give Thor's gem vision direct relevance to the movie at hand a la birth of marvel's red tornado to the avengers.
>>68222850
why do marvel movies get rated so high anyway
not memeing or anything, and I know plenty of DC movies are 80% and above too
The biggest criticism of AOU was "failed to live up to Avengers"
The biggest criticism of BvS was... where do I start?
>>68224755
Nah I was bored all the way throughout, same goes for BvS but at least they had Amy Adams and Lizzie to be entertained
>>68224867
all 12 marvel cinematic universe movies have positive rotten tomatoes scores. The lowest rated (Thor 2) still has a higher rating than Man of steel; its pretty retarded
>>68223366
The problem in MoS is that, while in AoU the Avengers were actively trying to stop Ultron(and did in a sense, since only one town got destroyed instead of the planet), Superman was right there smashing shit up in his fight with Zod, and didn't seem to care about collateral damage at all.
Also keep in mind the Avengers were actively trying to get people out of the danger zone. Superman, as mentioned before, was too busy during his punch-up with Zod to care about the squishy mortals who were getting killed in the fight.
>>68224867
Marvel makes comic adaptions and mostly deliver on expectations, WB/DC/Snyder hates comics and tries to elevate the comics to something they're not, in the process reshaping character personalities and stories, dividing audiences opinions
>>68225002
superman had to save the planet by himself. Meanwhile there were like 8 avengers and a shield aircraft full of people helping in age of ultron
Age of ultron actually annoyed me in parts but was pretty harmless overall 6/10
BvS was fine except for the rushed ending. I'd probably give it a 7/10 for at least trying
Avengers didn't try at all.
>>68225111
Superman also only had to deal Zod, like one or two henchmen, and his ship.
Meanwhile, Avengers were also dealing with a robot who had a near infinite supply of bodies and a city being lifted into the atmosphere that was basically a ticking time bomb.
>>68225002
hulk v iron man was destructive
>>68223124
/thread
>>68225197
True, though again, Iron Man was spending the fight trying to drag the fight away from where people were going to get hurt.
>>68225147
I couldn't handle le jokey robot man after the first hour. Yes, yes, he's supposed to be like Tony and all but that was getting Buffy-tier (Bravo Joss)
Ihaven't seenBvS yet.
Kill all capeshitters
>>68225190
Superman had only been superman for like 2 days in man of steel. Meanwhile the avengers had a combined total of decades of experience.
>>68225255
So excessive collateral damage is okay because he's inexperienced?
Say what you will about Marvel but at least they show some goddamn action.
>>68225277
>>68225277
let me make this simple: what should superman have done at the end of man of steel?
Age of Ultron is one of the biggest pieces of shit ive ever watched. The fact it has such a high rating makes me believe Disney paid off reviewers.
>>68225338
FIrst off, taking the fight out of Metropolis.
>>68222850
Nah, both suck.
>>68225293
How long did you think the fight would be?
>>68222850
I do. I don't get why people don't realize that you should look at the Average Score rating rather than the tomatometer score. The Tomatometer is just saying what percentage say yes it's a good film, or no it's a bad film
>>68225197
>hulk v iron man was destructive
And yet Stark grabs Hulk and throws him into abandoned building far away from people/
>>68225369
how? Zod is just as strong as superman and zod wanted to kill as many people as possible
>>68225403
4 hours
>>68222850
Avengers AOU is a coherent movie that is just kind of boring and more of the same.
BVS is an incoherent mess with way too much """"deep"""" horseshit crammed in there so poorly that it decimates the narrative.
Critics judge movies based on how successfully they accomplish what they set out to do. As a comic book movie about superheroes, BVS fails to an overwhelming extent.
Plus, just look at the average rating. 6.7 compared to 4.9. That seems about right to me.
>>68225472
Closest post to the truth.
Why does everyone think Age of Ultron was a disappointment?
I thought it was just as good as the previous movie.
>>68225446
superman threw him in fucking space
At least AoU doesn't display very obvious editing and writing issues. I mean don't you notice the excessive face zooms, dream sequences and scenes that don't make any sense like the part where Lois threw the kryptonite spear into the water?
>>68225612
>le quiptron/le jokebot
whedon please stop
>>68225240
sups was doing the same, zod was destructive, difference is that viewer must understand it while marvelmovies explain this with a lot of quips and other stuff. it's like if sups would have sayed that shit loud - viewer would understand. but nowadays moviegoers are stupid af. same stuff with bvs, it doesnt explain everythin, and it showed to everyone who watches capeshit that they're not a geeks, as they thought they are, that's why viewer hates it.
mann's manhunter was criticized for "style over substance", but the problem is that people doesnt see or feel the substance coz they like overexplanation. same with bvs
>>68224969
None of them are awful enough to warrant a rotten, but MoS should beat a fair few of them. BvS too.
>>68225703
>Sapient robot made by Tony Stark.
>Expect it not to be smug as fuck.
Even Jarvis can't help to be sarcastic as fuck to Tony himself.
>>68225818
thor 2, IM2 were utter shit
>>68225861
Everybody in avengers are smug quiptastic faggots.
Name one character who doesn't have any quip on the films.
Even Hulk has them.
>>68225472
>incoherent
>>68224592
Seeing a movie getting RT 100% liked makes it much likely for and some audience to go and watch it than a average 8.0 rating from only 20 critics. Pic related
>>68224969
>its pretty retarded
Not really. MOS failed in almost every way to be a superhero genre movie and a movie about Superman. They tried to give Superman the edgy Batman Begins treatment, but it was done incompetently by a director who is only good at visual sequencing.
Thor 2 is a more-or-less competent and adequately written and produced movie about Thor. It's flaws aren't character-ruining or utterly movie-sabotaging mistakes.
MOS annoyed critics because they turned Superman into a depressive space Jesus character, and it was all poorly done. DC didn't want to make a "safe" capeshit movie, but they trusted it to a weightlifting dipshit Chad who didn't know what the fuck he was going for.
>>68226253
So if everyone is a smug quiptastic faggot why is it only a problem when the robot created by the most smug quiptastic faggot of them all does it?
>>68225716
>le quips xD
Yeah, you're done.
>>68225897
Iron Man 3 is much worse than 2
>>68226349
All of the fucking movie is the problem
>>68226305
unambiguously incoherent. It is baffling how poorly edited it is. The first act is unfocused and cuts between characters to an annoying extent, the second act is full of go-nowhere filler and plot strings that just fade away, and the third act is a piece of shit cartoon.
>>68226479
Yet the only thing you pointed out was Ultron.
Next time someone asks a honest question try and not be such a smug quiptastic faggot yourself about it.
>>68226547
>everybody on 4chan is the same person
>>68223732
>>68223857
and this.
>>68226589
Yet you still couldn't help but to be one yourself and not answer the original question.
I honestly thought AoU was far worse than BvS. Only all of the Thor films have been worse than AoU. The Cap movies and Iron man 1 and 2 are the best of the MCU. I think Civil War will be THE best MCU film.
BvS was a 7/10 for me, AoU a 3/10.
>>68222927
>because the movie actually made sense
shitty meme m8
>>68226334
weakest b8 and memes, kid
>>68226768
Thor 1 isn't sub-3/10.
>>68223204
Kinda.
He's Norse. He was having a vision. And he himself later in the movie said he was having a vision
>>68226499
>It is baffling how poorly edited it is.
meme
>>68226887
You know what, maybe it isn't on the whole, it's just that Hemsworth is such a shitty actor I can't see past that and just focus on that. But that's my fault.
And AoU just contained everything wrong with MCU movies: Too much quipping, shit thrown in like Daddy hawkeye, action that goes on for too long and is so overblown it's just too dumb to be fun, with zero impact and on top of that a really, really shitty villain.
>>68222850
How can you guys come here every day and still not understand how RT works?
>>68226903
I've watched the movie ~12 times. I've studied it. I don't understand how it was edited so haphazardly. I am literally baffled by how poorly edited it is. Aside from the problems with the creative decisions in the script (MARTHA, the retarded spear metaphor sequence, Punisher Batman, basically everything about Lex Luthor), the movie is insanely, frustratingly poorly edited.
>>68224592
It's pretty fucking stupid. You could have 100 guys score it 6-7 and 'recommend' giving it 6.5 and 100%. Or you could have 70 say it's the best film of all time, 9-10 scores and 30 think it's absolutely stinking, 2-3 and come away with roughly the same average score but only a 70% 'fresh' score.
That's obviously an extreme example but prioritising that 'fresh' score encourages bland, inoffensive mediocrity.
>>68227096
That's why you look at both the percentage and the average score if you're on the fence about the movie, dum-dum. It's a pretty simple system.
>>68226421
i liked IM3, reminded 80's action movie. i guess i just love shane black's work
>>68222850
I agree with the pic. If you want to say "But BvS is a serious art movie not just quips and fun for kids." That's fine but BvS is also a BAD art movie, for what it's worth.
>>68227096
It clearly prioritises the 'fresh' score though. It's not about me looking at the opinions of 400 random bloggers either*, it's about how the industry reacts to what is considered quite an important metric. They will react with bland, inoffensive shit. That's not always bad, but it also rules out a lot of potential for something truly great.
*Id be more likely to take a recommendation from a bunch of cunts on /tv/ than I would any of these critics, even though you are, without failure, cunts.
>>68227138
Replied to myself instead of (you) here
>>68227505
>>68223204
Yeah he was watching the trailer for Thor 3 because disney is shameless
>>68222850
Avengers should be 15 or 20% lower, BvS is just right
>>68227505
I think the reaction to BvS has been fair. If I were personally reviewing it, I would not give an overall recommendation despite loving some parts. The good just didn't outweigh the bad for me. I'm not going to recommend seeing it simply because Zack Snyder made an attempt at something different.
>>68222850
Should be reversed, Ultron was pure fucking garbage except one or two scenes at most. BvS tried to be a good movie but crammed too much into 2.5 hours (which is actually a little impressive when I think about it).
If Lex were played by a good actor it would have been better, if he were played by Clancy fucking Brown the movie would be 10/10.
I haven't actually watched BvS, but based on the trailer, it looks awful. However, seeing as AoU was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, I highly doubt I'd agree with this had I seen it.
>>68222850
Not really. Age of Ultron was pretty much terrible. The first Avengers was okay though.
I would personally put the first Avengers and BvS at about 60%...but Reddit Tomatoes has retarded math dictating it's percentages.
no, critics are dumb dumbs
>>68222850
They should be at the same level but BvS just a bit below.
That aside Director's Cut gonna be better so if that was the original cut we would see a better movie and rating.
>>68222850
Both are bad but I sadly enjoyed AoU more. BvS was such a mess, I left the theater angry. Angry that Zack fucked up so bad. Angry that Warner Bros is rushing the DCEU to keep up with Marvel. Like its a fucking race. When I think of BvS, I try to think of the good moments. Moments that made me smile. Then I think of the bad moments and I just want to punch Zack Snyder and his wife in the fucking face.
>>68223047
>All the people defending BvS are comic book 20-something virgins who only care about seeing digital superfight
As opposed to Ultron's endless redshirts getting stomped? There has not been a single intense, climactic fight in any Avengers movie.
>>68223687
>Guy who wears red cape, spandex, and a big S on his shirt is made for adults
>>68228095
They should both be lower.
