What are the differences between old and new strong female characters in hollywood movies ?
I have the impression that they used to be more credible, that it made more sense
Usually the strongest female characters have been truly and terribly victimized, rape... hunted, etc... and they fight back.
Mother of Burgers has rarely fought back against anything and even accepted a randos big meaty horse cock in her roast beef. There's nothing really strong about her, as most of her "achievements" have been handed to her because she's special.
>>68189097
>because she's special.
which means what ?
>>68189097
Mother of Donuts
>>68189278
omnomnom
>>68189097
>>68189239
>>68189278
>its another fat autist who will never get a gf because they stay in their mother's basement and jack off to chinese cartoons instead of developing social skills makes fun of Emilia Clarke episode
>>68189520
>instead of developing social skills
but we make fun of her when we socialize too
>>68189097
>>68189902
that's what I call fat
>>68189097
God damn Linda Hamilton was a real man's man!
>>68189520
>SHES NOT FAT ITS ALL A MEME!!!!
>>68189902
Why didn't they get her to lose weight for this?
>>68189972
>that fat ass
holy shit muh dik
>>68190003
its a shop, good job falling for the meme
>SEE HOW SEXY SHE IS? AND NO, THAT ARM SHADOW IS NOT PROOF OF SHOP
Shes so qt
must be so comfy to snuggle in the cold
>>68190034
>its a shop,
It's not
To be classed as a strong female character in a Hollywood movie now you basically have to be act like a male hero and not cry when things get tough.
Even though I would say a lot of good films have well written and emotions strong and developed female characters that get shadow over for not be "badass and awesome FEMINSIM" character.
>>68189972
THICK
>>68190075
>its not a shop!
>proceeds to post more shops
>>68189097
It's all about forcing SJW propaganda now.
Kasdan said in an interview that he and JJ asked themselves what it would be like if the Nazis had gone to Argentina and regrouped after WWII.
From birth, Jews are raised with this idea that homogeneous white societies will inevitably result in goose-stepping, ethnic cleansing, and warmongering. And I could understand that outlook if history had begun in 1930. But the truth is, whites are the most egalitarian and least barbaric group in human history.
That's what frustrates many of us when jewish SJW Hollywood sensibilities become accepted norms. They're slanted, prejudiced and their bias goes unchallenged by everyone.
The First Order was a Jewish take on ultimate evil. And because modern Jews are obsessed with The Shoah and WWII everything magically relates to MUH SIX MILLION.
It has gotten boring. It's stale. I wish we could get a more nuanced view of evil, but that won't happen because show-biz Jews always find a way of politicizing everything.
Like, recently I saw a movie set in 1920s London. There were several shots of a black man and a white woman walking as a couple in the street. It was there to sell us something. It was out of place and revisionist. It's tacky and it's condescending.
The objective is to shape public opinion with the assumption that everyone needs "educating" and are too dumb to pick up on the flagrant advertising of their agenda. In this case, it was a short throwaway scene and it still took me out of the movie. The message is basically, "You're too dumb to find the right opinions by yourself, so we're going to give you direction by placing propaganda in the media you consume."
SJW placement just seems dishonest and manipulative. Flagrant product placement annoys me whether it's a product I like or not. It takes me out of the ride that it should be, pauses everything to remind me what I'm supposed to think, and then expects me to jump back in with full enthusiasm.
>>68190041
Now that is a shop
Old were well written and organic
New are rammed in to pander
>>68190164
>>68190218
True
Remember Ripley in Alien 2 ? that was something, wasn't it ?
I was at a restaurant with my wife a few weeks ago.
My wife went to the bathroom and told me when she got back, that when she walked in a woman was taking the loudest piss she ever heard, like someone running a bath with both taped turned on fully. My wife peed, washed her hands and was fixing her hair and lipstick when the woman finally stopped, my wife waited around to see the monster that had unleashed that torrent in the cubicle next to her (who at this point was still going), expecting some giant hamplanet, imagine my wife's surprise when the piss finally stopped and out walked Emilia Clarke.
My wife said she was already going when she walked in and went for at least a further two minutes, her flowing only slowing in the last 10 seconds or so.
>>68189097
>Usually the strongest female characters have been truly and terribly victimized, rape... hunted, etc... and they fight back.
so were male strong characters, like in rambo 1 or forest gump
>Dany
>strong female character
retard thread?
>>68190538
>>68190592
Well, they are pushing hard for it
>>68190656
you're actually retarded m8
>>68190538
ppfpfffffffffffffff
>>68190656
Why is she shooting at the ground?
>>68190673
Maybe, but not here
If you deny Emilia is not playing strong female cahracters, you're the not being delusional here
>>68190538
>the monster that had unleashed that torrent in the cubicle next to her
kek
Why does she even get roles? she is not a good actor and is just average looking
>>68190709
>Why is she shooting at the ground?
You're a sexist patriarchal mysoginist
>>68190736
what else did she play a strong female character in? i dont watch garbage movies
>>68190458
>i-it's all just a coincidence
>>68190782
>oh you
>>68190815
oh, you actually think she is in GoT.
holy fuck you dumb cunt lmao
>>68190831
She is not ?
>>68190105
BLACK
>>68190788
>m-muh global conspriacy
>>68189097
a strong female character is someone who goes through hardship and still comes out on top, while still being flawed in that she has her weaknesses/vices that comes back to haunt her later on
not to be confused with a fake strong female character, who is not flawed in anyway, has no weaknesses, always wins at everything and holds the moral superiority throughout the film
>>68190538
>expecting some giant hamplanet, imagine my wife's surprise when the piss finally stopped and out walked Emilia Clarke
So, just as your wife expected?
>>68191365
>>68189097
they just became too good looking, i guess hollywood is even more shallow now than what it was in the 80s and 90s.
strong female characters for me are sarah connor in t1 and t2 + ellen ripley in the alien flicks (specifically aliens). hell, even dr. ellie sattler in jurassic park is great.
>>68189097
>What are the differences between old and new strong female characters in hollywood movies ?
You were a kid when you watched the old ones, and not an easily-triggered edgy tryhard. They haven't really changed, you have.
>>68191755
No, I rewatched them, pretty sure of what I say
>>68191589
>they just became too good looking
But they're ugly now. I think a lot of them looked a lot better before, just more "girl next door" kinda way.
>>68189097
My impression is that strong female characters now a days try to challenge male rivals and show off how much better they are (with a lot of rediculing), while in the older movies strong female character simply were extremely capable and modest with a motherly/feminine touch.
>>68191932
naah man, compare carrie fisher to natalie portman for example. the latter is ridiculously good looking, or was at the time at least.
and no matter what people say on this board i'd say emilia clarke is more conventionally attractive than linda hamilton, who is an acquired taste.
>>68191938
Our triggering is a bit different to SJW triggering.
For SJWs it's like... They're going spastic because they don't actually get confronted with the shit they believe is everywhere. It's a shock.
For us it's kinda like "They Live." We learn about these narratives and then we discover they're everywhere. It's the "/pol/ is always right." thing.
In our heads it's a tinfoil joke from /pol/, we don't really expect it to be real. But it keeps happening. And then we're wondering if we're just fucking crazy and it's all in our heads: because if things really be like they do: how are we the only ones seeing it?
>>68192077
>how are we the only ones seeing it?
I'm pretty sure we're not, are we ?
>>68192047
linda hamilton is an awesome actress playing an awesome charater in an awesome movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-rT9sXPgI
>>68190736
BUGS
>>68192388
yes she is, i love her. no qualms there m8
>>68191802
Called confirmation bias m8. Not to mention you're apparently trying to make a statement about general statement about "old versus new" female characters by comparing an old good movie and a new shit movie.
Sarah Conner's character in Shitty New Terminator isn't even that far off from Sarah Conner in Terminator 1, the primary difference is the new one is a poorly written script and a badly directed movie. And how exactly is Sarah Conner in Shitty New Terminator MORE of a "self-entitled feminist bitch" than in T2?
>>68192566
I wasn't a kid when I watched Allen.
You are full oferta shit
>>68192677
Of*
Fucking autocorrect ree
>>68192566
of course it's poorly written, they are forcing the feminist agenda too much
>>68190908
CHECKBOOK
>>68192706
Why do lazy shits always blame their auto-correct for everything? How about after you're done rubbing your fatty ham fingers all over your iPhone screen, you stop and actually read what your post says before posting it?
>>68192797
>you know they fucked
>>68189097
Everyone was butthurt at Fury Road because they used feminist counselling, yet Furiosa was the typical badass woman, not the self entitled one.
>>68193229
>you know it was bad and awkward but they have to play if off and keep it professional, even though thes whole office knows about it but they pretend to not notice as they avoid eye contact as much as possible.
Yuuuupp, been there.
>>68192677
>I wasn't a kid when I watched Allen.
The fuck is Allen? Alien? That's one of the most intentionally feminist movies of all time. It completely subverted the final girl trope by making it a point to have her be the cold, practical, unlikeable bitch in the first act. T2 and Alien and Alien 2 are all Feminist as fuck. They set out to be. Shitty New Terminator isn't. Sarah Conner is just a generic non-offensive protagonist.
>>68192797
>they are forcing the feminist agenda too much
As opposed to 1992 and T2? That shit is actively, and purposefully, feminist. James Cameron has said as much.
Name one part of Shitty New Terminator that is bad because of "forcing the feminist agenda too much."
>>68193537
having a female protagonist doesnt make the movie "feminist"
take off your tinfoil hat
>>68189097
The only difference is the amount of time you've spent on the internet.
There have always been decent women characters, there have always been Mary Sues, some are both. The whole "SJeWs are putting strong womyn in everything" story is just the poison left in the water table after gamergate. It's as nonsensical as it is boring.
>>68193764
>having a female protagonist doesnt make the movie "feminist"
Yeah. No shit. I'm not the one calling contemporary female protagonists "self-entitled feminist bitches" because they are boring protagonists.
And I'm not calling Alien a feminist movie because it has a female protagonist, I'm calling it a feminist movie because it is a famously feminist movie. The monster is a giant dick that rapes its way into your face and violently rapes its way out of your stomach later.
They explicitly set Dallas up as the hero protagonist, then fucking kill him off and slowly reveal that the practical, by-the-book Skyler White woman character is the sole survivor.
Everything about the film, from creature and set design, to the writing, to the undies scene climax, was explicitly and intentionally subversive feminism. Fucking hell gang.
>>68189097
the image only really shows James Cameron female protagonists. Extrapolating from that to be an 80s and 90s Hollywood trend seems like a reach.
I just think James Cameron can write strong female characters when he wants to and when theres a previous movie to further develop them.
>>68194263
>I just think James Cameron can write strong female characters when he wants to and when theres a previous movie to further develop them.
And he's noted for his strong feminist themes in his films.
The irony of OP's fucking comparison is that his "REAL STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS" were intentionally written to more-or-less be SELF-ENTITLED FEMINIST BITCHES.
>>68189097
I have some bad news for all of you.
>>68194111
>undies scene climax
Freudian slip?
>>68194632
Nah that shit was intentional. I was talking about my penis.
>>68194697
One of my first faps 2bh famalam
Thx for the rare Ripley m8, have one on the house
>tfw I have 103 photos of this scene in their own folder
>>68194485
/thread
>>68189097
Women are very sensitive. If you make a female character too strong they get upset, if you make them too weak they get upset, if you make them too ordinary they get upset. There is literally no pleasing women, so why even try?
>>68194803
>tfw I have 103 photos of this scene in their own folder
Damn I only have 53 pictures. Confirmed for pleb.
>>68195216
How many are in your ghostbusters folder?
>>68195936
I've only got a Ripley folder because I was fucking around with making a design for an undies Ripley ink print.
>>68196241
Noice
Were you going to put it on a shirt?
>>68194843
99% of women dont give a shit, only people talking shit are SJWs who want attention and a lot of them are men
>>68192797
She's got cloud strife's proportions oh my god
>>68196357
Yeah or some kind of poster print or a stencil idea I had for a black wall. Idk haven't decided whether or not I want to fully invest in screenprinting shit yet
>>68195936
Word up! Ghostbusters was my first bone too
>>68196812
*boner
the best characters are when the writers realize that strong =/= perfect
>>68189097
It's almost as if the average dumb woman can't relate to someone who works out and isn't interested in some kind of male harem setup.
It tells you a lot about women that they prefer fat and plain women in their enertainment.
>>68196812
>I want you inside me
What did she mean by this?
>>68196882
Best strong female characters are characters who are smart and use their environment.
This is where Cameron fails most of the time, save Terminator. Aliens and T2 just fall into the fetishized girl with gun trope. There's nothing feminist about a female action hero.
