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http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/08/zack-snyder-reveals-how-missing-scene-explains-pivotal-batman-v-superman-moment

Supes can hear Lois in africa but not his mom in the next town because he's looking for something sad and he can hear the entire city. wtf?

I thought the movie was average because of such plotholes. But, his way of fixing it is very pathetic. He is really a retard.
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Zack Snyder more like Hack Snyder
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top kek what a fucking idiot
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Someone post the video of him saying that Star Wars is his biggest inspiration, but before saying that he spends a whole minute going like "uhhhhh"
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Maybe Superman was at Africa at that time as well.
Lois asked him to escort her to Africa so he's always been nearby
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>>68014077
Waiting for the dumb ass DC brigade to come in screaming about "CAPEKINO, MUH LORE, MUH RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS, MUH AHAB AND MOBY DICK" even though this movie was a fucking wreck.
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>>68014198
Maybe. but as a filmmaker it's his duty to at least hint us that.
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>>68014183

https://youtu.be/UD3byJxc9Vc
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>>68014077
I assumed it was because he knew Lois was going into a dangerous situation and was keeping tabs, but with his mom he has no idea where she was and because they kept her gagged she wasn't able to scream so he could find her.
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>>68014283
OP here. I don't remember lois screaming when under water (staff part). If you saw the movie you can remember that he briefly hears her heartbeat before getting her out of water
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>>68014270
nah, that's the autism talking.
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>>68014077
>makes crap movies
>companies still trust him
>he keeps doing shit and making millions
Why would he kill himself? The people who hire him should.
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>>68014279

Hahaha holy shit this is so gold. The way he looks around, "I don't know", the way he answers Star Wars just because everybody likes, saying Star Wars is a sci-fi.

"Super cool"

How this dude is more richer than me
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>>68014332
You're right, but to be fair when Doomsday showed up the movie completely fell apart. It was pretty obvious that at that point WB just did whatever they had to to make their Justice League prologue work. The internal logic of the movie went completely out the window
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>>68014332
she's hitting the obstruction keeping her underwater, seeing as he was close by i didn't mind it


typically, i see it as he has to be within the vicinity to notice


also that sounds like that scene could have actually really helped to drive home the "i can't save everyone"
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Watching Guardians

Who are these characters? too many introduced! can't follow

His mother is dying...HERE SON HAVE DADROCK LMAO

a raccoon knows who jackson pollock is

TOO MANY CHARACTERS WHATS GOING ON

What exactly is the bad guys plan? I couldn't follow

Who is this giant purple guy floating in space??

One point they are in space jail? Then a space flea market in a giant head?? IT JUMPS AROUND TOO MUCH

DANCE OFF!??!! WTF

music is terrible

sometimes someone is talking and the scene cuts to another person?? NICE EDITING WHATS GOING ON!!!!

Was his dead mom a dream? A DREAM?!?! OR A GHOST WHAT THE HELL

who is that talking duck??? I DONT GET IT

They were kind of scum bags but then became heroes?!WHY NICE MOTIVATION

Repeats the same "aliens don't get human jokes" joke

DUDE A DANCING TREE LMAO

Nice quips

why would the cassette still work if he listened to it all those times over the years?? IT SHOULD BE WORN OUT!!!!!

Why is stan lee in space?? WAY TO DROP THE BALL AND NOT EXPLAIN THAT
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>>68014775
what do you think you're going to accomplish other than people telling you how weak your bait is
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>>68014775
>Why is stan lee in space??
Because he's The Watcher.
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>>68014775

Delete this
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>>68014279
>hiding his power level like a true master
Brava
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>>68014077
Stop invincible son. Listen to the screams of help and then ignore them.
>This is the same superman who thinks Batman is too harsh with criminals.
Man of hipocrisy
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>>68014241
I think they've hit the third stage this week. They've been particularly feisty. Should only be another couple of weeks until acceptance though
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>>68014241
>he thinks everyone doesn't know
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>>68014077
what a fucking hack, and they let this guy direct BvS
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>>68014950
This is one of the worst things, as the fundamental story of Superman is that the love, compassion and character of the Kent's is what shaped Superman into the moral, upright character that he is.
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>>68014501

because his output that, while garbage, nets many dollars profit.

Your output... was that post.
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>>68015450
Why did anyone bother writing all that to explain why a superhero blockbuster doesn't actually suck?
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>>68015493
Denial
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>>68015450
What the fuck is this?
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>>68015450
So basically
>movie doesn't suck because it has symbolism

The problem is that everyone gets the symbolism, but it doesn't do anything with it.
It ends up being yet another CGI clusterfuck of magic good guys beating a big bad guy.
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>>68015544

Pasta
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He's patching his movie
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>>68014775
>BvS fags are this assblasted
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>>68014077
>Supes can hear Lois in africa
He works with Lois as a journalist. He probably knows about her little dangerous terrorism project and stood by in case shit went south.
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>It was a slightly dark scene that we cut out because it sort of represented this dark side.

Then why didn't he cut the rest of the movie?
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>>68015863
So you're saying he let Jimmy get shot in the face?
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>>68014270
>I need everything in a movie spoonfed to me
Was it too difficult for you to piece together that Superman would keep watch on his girlfriend while she is off in a hostile area?
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>>68016019
Why is she his girlfriend again?
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>>68015450
well, fuck
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>>68016105
Why not?

They were obviously attracted to eachother in Man of Steel.
Or did you want a 30 minute montage of how they got together?
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>>68016019
Was she in hostile area when lex kidnapped her threw her off his building? Superman didn't have a clue that lex would extort her and throw her.
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>>68015935
Hey, superman likes to have fun too.:^)
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>>68015544
>Literally too complex for Marveldrones

O GOD IM LAFFIN
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>>68014077

Yeah there's been some pretty obvious damage controll. They released a deleted scene and announced the directors cut like the same weekend the movie hit the theatres. WB is still going to make a lot of money (not as much as they hoped to make, but still), but I think it's good that the critics are getting to them. Maybe they'll try a little harder next time.
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>>68014279
What an eloquent man.
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>>68018598
Imagine Ben taking orders like a bitch of this man's mumbles.
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>>68015547
>The problem is that everyone gets the symbolism, but it doesn't do anything with it.
>everyone gets the symbolism
>it doesn't do anything with it

both wrong
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>>68014279
>what was the question again?
>LAUGHS FROM AUDIENCE

holy fuck comicon is so pathetic
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>>68014501
he can probably work like a dog and only needs like 4 hours sleep a day. plus he knows how to give save normie answers to questions.
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Do you think his executive producer wife dominates him in bed?
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>>68019070
Considering the number of kids he has, I think he dominates and hence she is literally the producer.
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>>68014813
>TFW you're a Disney marveldrone
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>>68014279
>poor Ben had to work with this idiot
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>>68016421
He probably had been keeping tabs on her since he left.
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so how did supes hear lois scream when lex dropped her off the tower?
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>>68019917
Snyder's just hiding his true patrician power level.
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>>68014279
Why is he being so weird about a simple question? He's at a fucking Comic-Con panel, what did he expect to be asked? Snyder is such a dumbass Chad.
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>>68015293
>because his output that, while garbage, nets many dollars profit.
No it doesn't. Dawn of the Dead and 300 are his only huge hits.
>B-BUT MAN OF STEEL AND BATMAN V SUPERMAN
Those movies would've been successful with an unknown director at the helm. Superman and Batman always sell tickets unless the movie is a Superman IV: The Quest for Peace level disaster.
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>>68020185
MoS did well but not to the level WB was hoping for. BvS is on track to be the same way.
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>>68020178
>pretending to be retarded

genius...bravo snyder
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>>68020179
>Snyder is such a dumbass Chad.
I have a theory that the people who hate him the most is because they were bullied by Chads when they were kids.
Don't take it personal, he's just an inoffensive manlet that likes movies and a bro.
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>>68020245
I wasn't bullied, he just comes across as a total airhead. I get the same impression with DiCaprio.
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>>68014241
>muh DC fan obsession
>image.jpg
>reddit frog
Dumb shitposter.
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>>68015293
Top kek, this is really awful damage control. Hack Snyder's input is completely worthless, his most commercially successful films are a remake and a 100% faithful adaptation of a comic book.
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>>68015450
Meanwhile in the same thread.
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>>68015293
>you can't criticize people that are more successful than you!
Then /tv/ should be shut down this instant. Even the dumbest Hollywood hacks are more successful than everyone who posts on /tv/.
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>>68020372
>the butthurt is real
>they still can't support their arguments
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>>68020372
He's right on the money as well. This desire to elevate tripe because it has simple symbolism and a loose enough script that you can use a crayon to fill in the 'deep and meaningful' blanks is ridiculous and almost against real film analysis. It's a byproduct of youtube autism that has instilled in self professed cinephiles that every film is open to some deep and meaningful analysis when in actual fact the broader a film is the easier it is to draw simple, tangental parallels. True analogy is great because it's specific, Snyder cribs imagery from Pieta's and thinks merely placing characters in a similar position works, despite half of them bearing no resemblance to the figures they are imitating on a characteristic or motivational level.

You could easily do make a 19 post OP like this about Sucker Punch, and it would be just as meaningless.
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>>68014077
You're an idiot. This makes perfect sense
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>>68014077
>Superman has taught himself to not listen to suffering because he can't be everywhere at once
>Superman has taught himself to not listen for crime
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>>68014279
He wanted to say the Bible and Fountainhead but then he remembered what kind of people are in the room
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>>68022450
He knew where Lois was going though.
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>>68015493
Autism
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>>68014077
I wouldn't say he should kill himself. But he definitely needs to stay the fuck away from superhero movies.
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>>68014077
Why didn't he just make a good movie?
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Zack is a KINO GOD.
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>>68022653
Memes aside, this could literally be autism.
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Hopefully after Zack is done dominating the capekino genre, he'll perfect the ultimate book adaptation with The Fountainhead.
Or maybe after JL:part 2 but before the Ayn Rand novel he'll finish off Frank Miller's work and do Ronin.
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>>68015450
Beautiful.
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>>68015450
I give it about a month before bvs is remembered as sucker punch 2.0 and all the defense and autistic analysis will fade and it can be put down as being the shit movie it is.
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>>68025855
This, people will eventually stop giving a shit. This board obsessed over Man of Steel because for a very long time it was the only DCCU movie. With the MCU movies this board dissects the latest one for a couple of months and then moves on. Now the same thing is going to happen to the DCCU movies.
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>>68015450
The jar full of piss is the best symbolism of this movie.

A jar that manchilds are eager to drink with a smug expression in their faces before admitting that there's no "granny's peach tea" inside, just piss.
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This
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>>68027375
And this
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>>68015450
Most of this warrants and eye-roll, however, the analysis of Lex is pretty interesting.

The problem is that it doesn't come across in the film whatsoever. The execution of this idea is a total blunder.

Though, in theory it's very clever.
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>>68014279
>Thank god your visuals are so strong sir
Based Kevin Smith
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>>68014279
This absolute idiot is a director of major movies, and whether you like it or not he is making more money than paramedics and doctors.
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>>68027437
>boo hoo I have superpowers waaaah

such psychological depth, truly a literary medium comparable to the novel
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>>68027437
All the fucking too?
Fucking pervert.
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>>68022494
You realize Ayn Rand types HATE Christians though
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>>68014077
I never payed attention to what his ridiculous forearm length gothic-font Tattoo said until now.
>Deborah
It says motherfucking Deborah, if this isn't his kids name he's broken the cardinal rule of never getting a girlfriends/wife's name tattooed on you.
It's also written vertically, which is fucking dumb.

D E B O R A H
E
B
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R
A
H
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Don't fucking link us to your shit clickbait website, give us the text you enormous faggot

ZACK SNYDER REVEALS HOW MISSING SCENE EXPLAINS PIVOTAL BATMAN V SUPERMAN MOMENT

Excised scene underlines how tough Superman's job is.

BYCHRIS TILLY

Zack Snyder has been talking about a key moment at the end of Batman v Superman, explaining how a scene that was cut from the movie explains a potential plot-hole.

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So as we're dealing with the film's finale,BEWARE OF SPOILERS AHEAD.

When IGN sat down for a chat with the BvS director, we asked why Superman can’t hear his mother’s screams and cries for help when she’s kidnapped by Lex Luthor late on.

“I think all the way – to me, from Metropolis to Smallville is probably just on the edge of his range of hearing” he explained. “Also the clutter of the city makes it difficult as well."

It sounds like an excised sequence might help explain the issue as well.

"We had a scene that we cut from the movie where he tries to look for her when he finds out that Lex has got her," Snyder continued. "It was a slightly dark scene that we cut out because it sort of represented this dark side. Because when he was looking for his mom he heard all the cries of all the potential crimes going on in the city, you know when you look.

“I kind of like the idea that he’s taught himself not to look because if he looks it’s just neverending, right? You have to know when, as Superman, when to intervene and when not to. Or not when not to, you can’t be everywhere at once, literally you can’t be everywhere at once, so he has to be really selective in a weird way about where he chooses to interfere.”

No word on whether that deleted scene will appear on the forthcoming Blu-ray extended cut, but we'll let you know as and when we have more news on that release.
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>>68029672
Just did some meme research, his spouse is named D E B O R A H
D
E
B
O
R
A
H

He really does need to kill himself.
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>>68014077
What the hell does that tattoo even mean?
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>>68029854
See>>68029672
And >>68029828
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>>68014077
>“I kind of like the idea that he’s taught himself not to look because if he looks it’s just neverending, right? You have to know when, as Superman, when to intervene and when not to. Or not when not to, you can’t be everywhere at once, literally you can’t be everywhere at once, so he has to be really selective in a weird way about where he chooses to interfere.”

There are people on /tv/ right now who unironically enjoy this man's """""""films""""""""
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>>68016019
>I need everything in a movie spoonfed to me
no, but at least you need to hint something fucking apologist.
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>>68015450
Oh wow, this is the shitpost anon was talking about
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>>68014241
>capekino is 2 smart 4 him
lol
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>>68014775
IT WAS FUNNY
IT HAD QUIPS
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>>68014198
>saved Lois and not Jimmy Olsen
Bravo Snyder
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Still waiting for BvS to make a profit
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>>68014077
Here's the only objective opinion you can have about Zack Snyder, he's good at doing cool CGI visuals and massive over the top CGI action scenes, but that's literally it. He cannot write a compelling story or create fleshed out characters, which is evidenced by the fact that his only good movies are taken from a source material word for word ( Watchmen, 300, Sin City), BvS and man of Steel don't count here although they have a comic source material, the stories of the movies are created completely by Zack.
He would have a better career being a special effects guy on other peoples movies.
It's like getting a guy who makes the art for the cover of an album to write the songs for the band.
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>>68030080
JUST
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>>68014775
How absolutely rustled are your jimmies that a movie with a talking raccoon and a sentient tree is better that BvS?
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>>68030117
>objective opinion
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>>68030201
Holy fuck is this real
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>>68030117
Snyder had nothing to do with Sin City.
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>>68030080
Wikipedia says the budget was $250 million.
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>>68030201
I-It will break $925m, y-you just wait and see
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>>68030422
And that doesn't include marketing, which easily doubled the cost for a film this size.
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>>68030422
And you like maby others forget that they also spent about 200m+ on marketing. Cinemas also need a cut of the ticket sales, which is why its about 40/60 splits between cinemas and studios. They essentially have to cash in double their budget to break even. Seeing that this is WB's flagship, it should actually aim for 1-1.5b
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>>68030462
>>68030519

Oh shit nigger I didn't think of marketing. Is the DCEU dead in the water then? Your 2 (3 really) biggest names in a movie can't turn a profit, what do you do?
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>>68030349
That is what we call an "Oxymoron"
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>>68029937

This shit is from the comics, idiot.
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>>68030383
Ah, yes it was Robbie Rodriguez, right? Well, that just narrows Snyders good movies down a bit then.
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>>68014077
it would be of great benefit to the movement of cinema if he did
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>>68030600
Damage control. Currently reshooting scenes for suicide squad. They are pushing more for a solo Batman movie, seeing that people generally liked Batfleck. They're trying to do the build up for Justice League, like Marvel did.
One of the reasons they releases BvS worldwide at the same time was to cash in as much as possible before the reviews came out, which is why it had such a huge drop after week 1 and 2. Even before the movie was out IMDb rating was at 9.7/10, before anyone had seen it. Now its about 7.3, and it didnt update from 9.7 to 7.3 on the main page for some "unknown reason" until the 3rd week.
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>>68030462
>>68030519
>>68030600

They're also forgetting product placement and merchandising. Man of Steel won back 2/3 of it's budget thanks to product placement alone.
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>>68030774
Did this movie have as much product placement tho? MoS was swarmed with it, it got a lot of complaints about it.
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>>68030829

Jeep, Turkish Airlines, Nokia, Police Watch and so on.
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>>68030829
Jeep
Aston Martin
Muslim Airlines
Lumia phone
Samsung laptop
Ford mustang
Gucci
Converse

Those are the ones I remember
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>>68030878
>>68030981
What? No fight scene in a Burger King in this one?
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>>68031223
Director's cut maybe.
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dude star wars lmao

did batman or superman shoot first?? xD
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>>68015450
This is exactly what's wrong with BVS and MOS: You can say that they had themes all you want, but they aren't presented properly.
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>>68014356
Seriously, all it would've taken is one line of dialogue from a terrorist like, "was that a drone?"
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>Plebs in this thread not understanding that a true artist takes creative risks for the sake of cinema despite knowing that the vast general audience of phillistines won't "get" it.
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>>68014279
Wow

JuhST
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I cant be the only one who finds this a bit interesting right?

It makes sense, Clark cant save everyone, he cant do everything, so it would make sense to tune it out, and having him listen for it and then hear all the crimes happening would be pretty eye opening for supes and the viewer.

I feel the reason why this film failed so badly is because of the editing, they edit out a lot of needed things, but keep in the useless over long dreams and email scene.
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>>68029828
Snyder found true love, something you will never understand
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>>68014279
He really is stupid, like not a retard but bottom 20 per cent, you know? The kid in your class that never "got" algebra.
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>>68014279

JUST FUCK MY CREATIVE PROCESS UP FAMPAI
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>>68015450
>batman is charles foster kane

stopped reading
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