This was pretty great, probably better than ROTJ.
What did /tv/ think?
>>67854951
>better than ROTJ
When will this meme die....
>>67854951
>This was pretty great
It wasn't great
>probably better than ROTJ
It was clearly not better than ROTJ
>What did /tv/ think?
That you're a retard
>>67855017
It's probably better than ANH, all things considered.
>>67854951
It was was pretty great. A true Star Wars movie in true Star Wars style.
Don't let the butthurt stormfags tell you it sucks because based Johnny B is black.
>>67855541
The anti-SJW shit seemed to have died down recently. The main complaints I hear the most now are about the rehashed plot points, Rey being too good at stuff, and Kylo being a flawed character.
The former is the only legit flaw of the movie, I think.
It was shit. JJ is hack.
>>67854951
It was okay. The plot was predictable and unoriginal, and it had some problems with characterization, but it was alright.
Was better than AOTC and TPM that's it.
>>67855918
McDiarmid is the only thing that makes ROTJ wworth watching, take off those nostalgia goggles.
>>67854951
I liked that Solo's death mirrors the death of the a Emperor in Episode VI... What's that all about, anyway?
Will Rian make that connection in the next episode?
>>67856082
>I liked that Solo's death mirrors the death of the a Emperor in Episode VI
In what way?
>>67856128
They are both dropped from a corridor or a platform of some sort.
It seems to suggest some kind of complicity between smugglers and the operations of the empire.
>>67856203
I don't think that was intentional, Anon.
You'll notice that Kylo does what Luke cannot... by committing patricide. So there's some natural continuity there.
>>67854951
It's alright
Boyega and Poe were the only big standouts, they deserved more time together (no homo)
>>67856203
lol
also did you notice that both luke and the emperor wear robes? that probably suggests that luke is the illegitimate child of the emperor.
>>67856228
it's poetry, you dummy
>>67856298
*pottery
>>67855986
Everything except for Endor is fine. Luke vs Vader is great.
>>67855986
Sorry, I meant "ROTS".
>>67856355
Jabba's palace kinda loses it's charm once you realize how dumb Luke's plan was. But yeah, the throne room scenes are the best thing in the entire franchise, in my opinion.
>>67856480
Respectfully disagree. I think ILM went over board with the throne room. The guards are embarrassing and it looks as though our heroes are freeing Han from Noah's Ark.
Padme managed to be a better character in TPM than Rey was in TFA.
That's a pretty bad indication.
>>67856285
No, I'm not implying both character's deaths have any natural relationship... The death of an Emperor is really fairy tale 'high history', while a smuggler's death is just an aside.
>>67856598Emperors throne room
why did rey have to defeat kylo? why couldn't that earthquake just separate them and force a draw?
>>67854951
>better than ROTJ
kys
>>67856884
Snoke wanted Kylo to lose so he could seduce him more to the dark side.
He caused that earthquake to save Kylo, while still allowing him to be defeated.
>>67854951
It was worse than ROTJ.
It's on par with 3, maybe a little worse.
5 > 4 > 6 > 3 >= 7 > shit > 1 >> gouging my eyes out > 2
>>67857029
3 has character development.
5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 7 = 1 > 2
>>67857112
I would put 1 ahead of 7 but overall decent list.
No memes at least.
>>67857609
Is there a template for this? I'll make an objective list for you guys.
>>67858403
>objective list
go figure you'd use those words when you don't even know where the template can freely be downloaded from
>>67858403
>>67859158
Found it in the archive.
Here it is, make sure to post it whenever some wannabe patrician starts spouting his shit opinions.
6>4>7>5>3>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
The film is great, you must be a dribbling spastic if you didn't enjoy it.
TFA was probably the best movie of 2015. I don't understand the hate.
>>67859521
I feel like Fury Road was better.
>>67859545
I was bored watching Fury Road actually. None of the characters even say anything important. I felt myself more drawn to the clear antagonists than the protags simply because I couldn't understand what the protags even wanted to do.
90's kid here. Only seen the Episodes 1-4. Can tell you that i could barely get through episode 4, the movies age so horrible.
3>1>2>4.
Episode 3 was the best, way better than TFA.
>>67857609
>>67859309
>in-universe chronological order
5 > 4 > 7 > 6 > 3 > 1 > 2
>>67859680
Already posted m8.
>>67859680
It's a good shitpost but the frog ruins it.
>>67859642
It's best to get the shit out of the way first so you can enjoy the good stuff more.
>>67859680
objectively correct
Why isn't widely regarded that A New Hope is a literal perfect movie?
>>67859521
It was just waaay too unoriginal. Like I was bored within the first 20 minutes because of the whole "its the right thing to do"
>>67859782
I eat dessert first because I'm an adult.
>>67859799
It's full of holes and feels a bit rushed. Empire Strikes Back is closer to perfection, with a story that will move anyone and at the end will leave everyone hungering for more without even being a cliffhanger (Han was pretty much killed).
>>67859861
>Empire Strikes Back is closer to perfection
ANH had much better pacing 2bh
>>67859799
It's pretty bad actually. A superweapon the size of a moon? Are you kidding me?
>>67859889
If you prefer anime to manga, sure.
>>67859799
TFA was actually a great satire of it.
Characters with no motivation going out on great, unrealistic adventures for no good reason, traumatic pasts that involve dead parents, super weapons that are just too big to be believed, so on and so forth.
The difference is that ANH takes itself seriously while TFA realizes it's a joke and doubles down on the quips to really sell that it's satire.
>>67859721
Nice meme.
>>67857029
p accurate tbqh fahm
>>67859951
>Characters with no motivation going out on great, unrealistic adventures for no good reason
>>67859799
It's close, but I feel like the trench run was executed sloppily. All the fighters look the same, I don't know how many of them are, and it drags on for way, way too long.
Almost every single sequel, especially ROTJ and TFA did space battles much better.
>>67859812
Youre a genuine sociopath if you dont understand why someone might want to defect from the facist regime that mass murders innocents
>>67859995
>going to go save a princess because she left a message on your robot's answering machine
>a good reason
come on now
If you cut the Endor shit in half and make the Jabba plan make sense then ROTJ would be amazing.
>>67860103
it is when your family gets murdered and you have nothing left combined with a established disdain against the same people and a longing for adventure.
>>67860108
if you just replace ewoks with wookies you've improved the movie 50%
>>67860103
Luke wanted to get off his shithole of a planet, and Kenobi would teach him how to use magic.
>>67859951
>Characters with no motivation going out on great, unrealistic adventures for no good reason
>family killed
>miserable situation
>empire out to kill you
>desire for adventure
>a greater purpose
Nope nothing at all.
>>67860075
>real world
>nationalistic motivations allow the murder of six million innocents, memes aside
>fictional world
>brainwashed child soldier breaks his programing for unexplained reasons
What's the point of making him a brainwashed child soldier if he's just going to break his programming so easily?
Going off the earlier concepts, we didn't have the stormtroopers as brainwashed child soldiers. They were just regular people who signed up for work, and then found out the work wasn't what they signed on for.
We even had some EU books about this, but those are non-canon now because we need to brainwash child soldiers except the brainwashing does nothing.
>>67860108
Also cut out the cringey subplot of Han doubting if Leia loves him.
>>67860146
>>67860172
>>67860192
Like I said, TFA is satire of ANH.
Luke's family oh-so conveniently is killed just so he can go on big adventures. Great lessons you're teaching the youth Lucas!
Meantime we have Abrams giving Rey this background of parents who abandoned her for money, like Lucas did for star wars.
TFA is actually a brilliant movie.
>>67860203
>>brainwashed child soldier breaks his programing for unexplained reasons
How about death of a friendI think, it might just be some guy but he reacted very strongly to that deathand not wanting be a murderer? Soon as they got Po they felt the need to exterminate everyone in the village. It's pretty easy to find something objectionable about this.
I can't tell if you're not paying attention or a literal sociopath
>>67860203
>the brainwashing does nothing
As far as we know, it worked for literally every single other Stormtrooper. It's not unrealistic to think they fucked up one time.
>we didn't have the stormtroopers as brainwashed child soldiers. They were just regular people who signed up for work
None of the films state that. Fuck, they may have all even been clones.
>>67860285
>Luke's family oh-so conveniently is killed just so he can go on big adventures.
It wasn't far-fetched considering it's been building and was going to happen before we even met Luke. The family bought the droids as were meeting Luke before we get to know him.
>>67860203
>Finn is white and Poe is black in the concept
POETRY
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>>67860515
JJ might soon rival Lucas in the poetry department.
>>67860515
I would have dug Finn as a jedi actually. He's got that same honest bumbling Luke had in ANH, but he's just boastful enough to remind me of young anakin's arrogance while leaning solidly into the light rather than dark.
also,
>african sword techniques
>not flashing but reasonably efficient enough to make perfect lightsaber techniques
>>67860692
they did that on purpose and in the trailer we see him with the saber and they even featured him with the saber on massive billboards
but in the end it was a prank
Make me want to kill myself because I'll never take the anal virginity of this qt.
Overall an 8/10 film.
wait
aren't the storm troopers clones of a some white guy? then why is finn black?
>>67861946
Watch the movie.
>>67856298
It rhymes
>>67860889
this pretty much
Finn is getting cucked hard by JJ.
>doesn't get to be a jedi
>doesn't get to be a real stormtrooper even
>doesn't get the jedifu but a fat asian xim instead
>>67854951
(you)
>>67862083
i did and obi wan fights some white-ish guy who they clone to make the storm troopers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>67861777
You'll be late anyway
>>67861946
Come on now.
Clones stopped being produced by Kamino during the post-war period after episode III. The Stormtroopers in the original trilogy are all regular men and women from all walks of life across the empire.
The Stormtroopers of the First Order meanwhile, are brainwashed children they abducted from various places because the needed unquestioning soldiers and there was something wrong with using clones. I forget exactly what, but it was probably that they weren't dark enough for the Fourth Space Reich to use.
also, Jango/the clones actor is Maui.
>>67862157
>>doesn't get the jedifu but a fat asian xim instead
Explain.
>>67862267
Kylo and Rey will end up together. See >>67861743 if you doubt this theory.
All Finn has left is some asian they hired for 8, or Poe.
Pic related, her name is Tran.
>>67855541
Everyone stopped complaining about him after the film came out
They switched to pointing out the rest of the movie was shit covered by light flashes and nostalgia
Also that the main character has no flaws
And that JJ is a hack
>>67861946
Jesus Christ
>>67862244
they literally don't say anything about that in the movie lol
>>67862373
I'd prefer if there was no bullshit romance between the new main characters.
The latter doesn't sound too bad, as long as she's a charismatic actress. /tv/ was shitting on Booyega too, yet he ended up being great.
>>67862463
that's because Lucas didn't even have just what the Clone Wars were locked down when they added that line into ANH.
What we do see is non-clone officers and different voices for the storm troopers. What this means is that not everyone is a clone, implying clones aren't being produced in the same volume (if at all) that they were in the prequels.
This is going purely off what the movies contain.
If you want to step into the hell that is the EU, we have explicit confirmation of this.
>>67854951
TFA was shit op, fuck off.
>>67862645
>Not being able to enjoy TFA
How pleb can you get lmao.
>>67862567
but what about the female audience anon? They've got to make a return on investment for the tent-poll strategy to work.
Judging from their imdb pages, Boyega came from multiple tv shows and a few small movies.
Tran comes from CollegeHumor.
I thought it was great, but I still feel the complaints people have are valid to certain extents. I felt what they did well greatly outweighed what they did poorly. 8/10
>>67862568
>that face for 3
>when it was carried by McDiarmid and McGregor
He could look happier in 1 as well since he's running his puppet game with Padme as well.
Too bad we're using Sheev to judge movies instead of juding Sheev's personal love of each movie based on what he did in them.
>>67862645
TFA was genuinely a good movie you fucking prequel baby.
>>67862815
>replying to b8
I give TFA a 6/10, and since my opinion is the only one that matters, it IS a 6/10 objectively.
People are forgetting Gugu Mbatha-Raw is also in the movie and reportedly had chemistry readings with Boyega.
>>67862896
Based Rian protecting Rey's virginity.
>>67856203
>hans death mirrors the emperors death because they both fell off something
Jesus Christ is this what capeshit is doing to kids brains?
>>67864141
He's pretending to be retarded, dipshit.
>>67860203
Probably because he had a friend in the stormtroopers corps. No I'm not going off the books, just what I saw in the movie.
