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The Real Definition of 'Kino'
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Kino is a state it is a transcendental sometimes even metaphysical 'instant' of cinema which refuses dialogue or plot for pure emotion or an expression of feeling. A notable example would be this long shot which slowly pans into Batman in Christopher Nolan's 2008 (The Dark Knight) as he stands on a radio mast(55:20) as the music builds a sense of post 9/11 unease into a crescendo. In fact The Dark Knight has another of these moments as Joker hangs out of the police car licking his lips accompanied by a pulsating nihilistic droning, these are the only instances of Kino in Capeshit, other instances of Kino in modern cinema include, but are not limited by:
>The scene in No Country for Old Men where Chigurh crosses a bridge and shoots a single bird
>The ENTIRE 'Lacrimosa' sequence in The Tree of Life
>The opening scene of The Revenant
>The opening sequence of There Will be Blood
>Samsara
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Learn to write before trying to sound deep.
Also develop some taste beyond IMDb picks.
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>>67693935
You didn't need two full stops you could've just used a comma.
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>>67693876

excuse me, but doesnt Kino simply mean movement? As in, "moving pictures" or movies? Or like in kinetic energy?

Isnt your definition just an extremely pretentiously ironic made up definition to basically just describe "movies I like that are artsy"?
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>>67693876

No it isn't.
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>>67693876
OP here the only reason I'm talking about this is because I'm a tad annoyed at /tv/'s irreverent and patently inauthentic use of the term to perpetuate meme culture when there are notable and valid uses of the term which in educating yourself to such I believe will greatly progress in depth cinematic discussion on this board.
Cheers.
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>>67693876
>>67694071
>image.jpg
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you're very close op but you're not quite there
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>>67693876
eww not even worth saving
2/10
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>>67693876
You seem to have forgotten the plane scene in TDKR you massive fucking faggot
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>>67694425
>not even worth saving
Probably because deep down you know there's an element of truth to it rather an an aloof ironic self parody; try to take time to think for a second, he's getting at something here.
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>>67694535
Plenty of good posts get saved on the same level as good memes

The keyword being good
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>>67693876
kino is literally the german word for cinema it's not even used like y'all do, only thing that makes sence saying is that's good kino (german films generally aren't good btw)
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Always pleasing and frustrating to watch the lesser minds on /tv/ desperately try to claim kino is not real simply because they cannot comprehend it.

It is real, and here's but one example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTGdGgQtZic

And a second example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IUX0Qy-IDM

And a third example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHXgNn18z90
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>>67693876
So like the majority of Batman Returns?
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Would this moment count as kino? Or is it more on the side of cinêma?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpXMGit4P8
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>>67695062
Cinéma not cinêma
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>>67695062
It's a good film moment for its narrative and a mediocre Cinêma moment for its striking if sentimental visuals but not even close to kino, too manufactured.
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>>67693935
Kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9s_AWUU6s

Cinema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2wL9AawlDA

Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ud91dE3hd0

Movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqvbv-SB4bg

Flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXohNU3tWo
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>>67695176
>Click Malick vid
>shot of grass starts playing

Like clockwork
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>>67693876
the fuck are you talking about?
see
>>67694737
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>>67695176
Complete fucking
plebeian
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>>67695176
>not one but two capeshit in an unironic film list

Disregarded and filtered, imbecile.
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>>67695176
Joint: Badlands
Flick: Days of Heaven
Movie: The Thin Red Line
Film: The New World
Cinema: The Tree of Life
Photoplay: To the Wonder
Absolute Kinography: Knight of Cups
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>>67695176
Kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAoTHILzheo

Cinema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZAEaa-z-ZM

Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQHQ9e9mtng

Movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQSmfzfg2MY

Flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIM1HydF9UA
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>>67695293
Kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6DSGZZn-Ac

Cinema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8N72t7aScY

Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loqDhn3mtW4

Movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loqDhn3mtW4

Flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdqbdEKeJ_4
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>>67695626
My fucking G-d you're a plebeian, you wouldn't know Kino if it hit you in the fucking face like the pussy ass bitch you are.
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>>67695626
*movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpXMGit4P8
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>>67695626
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There is no real definition of kino, it is a made up meme of /tv/.
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>>67695675
Only about 25-30 Kino works currently exist, four of which are part of Malick's oeuvre
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>>67693935
>>67694049
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>>67694425
>>67694478
>>67694737
>>67695255
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That's not what kino is about, you're getting the very essence of it wrong.
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>>67693935
TDK is the best batman film don't even try to convince us of anything different.

>it has a high IMDb rating so it must be bad!! fucking normies!

kill yourself.
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>>67695866
>>>/v/
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>>67695872
>image.gif
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>>67695775
You do realize words are made up by the people, right?
If we give the word kino a new meaning, then that's its meaning, and no amount of frankly pathetic buzzwords like "meme" and your typical millennial facade of precious irony can take that away.

Kino is real, it's different from cinema, it's different from films.
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>>67695340
KoC was pure garbage.
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>>67695872
>scared of letterbutts
Kill
yourself
pleb
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>>67695902
David will you stop leaving your fedoras at my house you faggot.
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>>67695901
>muh mobile boogyman

stop spamming.
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Kino - cinéma - film - movie - flick are basically milestones on the "closer to art" - "closer to commercial mass appeal" spectrum
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>>67695765
Kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95PnXKMFFKk

Cinema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqvbaqtrhaY

Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB47Va2ECbM

Movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJdOj8mC3ZA

Flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMjovG2PqZM
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May I posit, my fellow cinéaste, a few additional remarks and minor objections to your brave attempt at elucidating the obscure concept of Kino. Kino, I daresay, is the event of the collective emotion shared by movie-going spectators as they experience the scenes similar to those you have described (OP, 'The Real Definition of Kino', 2016, p.1). It is the event of the simultaneous reaction to difficult, intense and dense cinéma. Highbrows are raised, gasps are heard, the plebeians in the audience make themselves scarce. In addition to OP's previously established scenes of Kino, let me make a few additions:
-Spirited Away, the arrival of the pleasure boat
-Drive, Real Hero montage and elevator scene
-GitS, opening and market scene

Kino is, borrowing Foucault's words, the event of being self (Michel Foucault, 'Nietszche, Genealogy, History)
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>>67695911
>Perhaps no film in the history of cinema follows the movement of memory as faithfully, as passionately, or as profoundly as Terrence Malick’s new film, “Knight of Cups.” It’s an instant classic in several genres—the confessional, the inside-Hollywood story, the Dantesque midlife-crisis drama, the religious quest, the romantic struggle, the sexual reverie, the family melodrama—because the protagonist’s life, like most people’s lives, involves intertwined strains of activity that don’t just overlap but are inseparable from each other. The movie runs less than two hours and its focus is intimate, but its span seems enormous—not least because Malick has made a character who’s something of an alter ego, and he endows that character with an artistic identity and imagination as vast and as vital as his own.
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>>67695872
Begins > TDK > TDKR
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>>67695982
Wow, "fedora", isn't that buzzword too old and stale by now? You irony internet masters have to stay chic, this post won't do you any favors.
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>>67693876
No matter how hard you try to force this terrible, unfunny meme, it will never have a lasting impact.
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kino just means movie theater in german. it doesn't even refer to the films per se
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>>67694737
Film vs Movie vs Cinema is real, but kino, fllick, etc were added by tasteless dronesthat were made insecure by this whole thing.
like when fedoracore got introduced to this board

“A movie is made for an audience and a film is made for both the audience and the filmmakers. I think that The Game is a movie and I think Fight Club‘s a film. I think that Fight Club is more than the sum of its parts, whereas Panic Room is the sum of its parts. I didn’t look at Panic Room and think: Wow, this is gonna set the world on fire. These are footnote movies, guilty pleasure movies. Thrillers. Woman-trapped-in-a-house movies. They’re not particularly important.” - David Fincher

"My film is not a movie. My film is not about Vietnam. It is Vietnam. It's what it was really like. It was crazy. We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane." — Francis Ford Coppola

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film#Terminology_used
>By contrast, in the US "movie" is the predominant form. Although the words "film" and "movie" are sometimes used interchangeably, "film" is more often used when considering artistic, theoretical, or technical aspects, as studies in a university class and "movies" more often refers to entertainment or commercial aspects, as where to go for fun on a date. For example, a book titled "How to Read a Film" would be about the aesthetics or theory of film, while "Lets Go to the Movies" would be about the history of entertaining movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsp05iSk7s [Embed]

movies are about economics.
cinema is about esthetics.
film is about politics.
-"How To Read A Film" by James Monaco

Also the separation is recognized in these texts
Bresson's Notes on the Cinematographer
Tarkovsky's Sculpting in Time
Delleuze's Cinema I&II
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Kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_b-zpSnoHs

Flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjqmg_7J53s


Hope my posts have made the distinctions more clear.
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>>67696024
To put it succinctly, if film is a good audio-visual piece, and cinema is the expression of the artist's soul, then Kino is the very flesh of the soul itself, transcending the medium's physical limitations and dare I say humanity and life itself.

Kino is the missing link between the divine and the human, it is the scattered god made whole for a few sublime fleeting moments.
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>>67696025
>He passes himself off as a purist, untouched by crass Hollywood commercialism. But in truth, his work is just the opposite—while it has no commercial value, yet it is still shallow, gimmicky, undisciplined and manipulative. Knight of Cups is all of that—a conflagration of pretentious images and camera tricks that follow a disillusioned writer (Christian Bale, giving the deadliest performance of his life) through the toxic wastes of Hollywood and Las Vegas seeking the meaning of success. “All those years—living the life of someone I didn’t even know,” he whines in one of the film’s profusive voice-overs. Wafting across the Nevada desert at dusk like Sean Penn in the abominable Tree of Life, Mr. Bale looks blank as a cardboard UPS box. Inconclusive with knuckleheaded indecision like Ben Affleck in the paralyzing tedium of To the Wonder, he loses the audience through the looking glass before you can open your popcorn bag and mutter “Come back, Alice, all is forgiven.”

http://observer.com/2016/03/terrence-malicks-knight-of-cups-has-no-commercial-value-but-its-still-shallow/
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>>67696175
>Terrence Malick’s Knight of Cups is an adventure in perception, a city symphony, and an excruciatingly lavish crucible. It takes place almost entirely in southern California, allowing for an extended trip to Las Vegas, which resembles Rome in the age of Tiberius (or of DeMille), a brief journey in the cold of space to view the Aurora Borealis, and a few furtive glimpses of Eero Saarinen’s St. Louis Arch. While mostly remaining in the precincts of Greater Los Angeles, the film encompasses a staggering breadth of contrast. There is desert and sea, high life and lowlife, people passing out at penthouse parties and on downtown pavement.
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>>67696025
>>67696175
>>67696219
Rich people can't have problems.
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>>67696095
>actual directors unironically making distinctions between 'film' and 'movie'
No wonder hacks like Coppola and Fincher have never delivered a work that can be designated 'kino'
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>>67696175
>Rex Reed

>The year is not over, but I’ve already seen my favorite film of 2015. It’s Thomas McCarthy’s brilliant, responsible, galvanizing and unforgettable Spotlight, about the honesty, courage and decency of the four-man team of investigative reporters who researched, exposed and published the truth about the 2001 sex abuse scandals in the Catholic church in the respected “Spotlight” section of the Boston Globe.
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Kinography was a genre that existed around the turn of the 20th century where movement was the only story that could be told because complex narratives did not exist

So movies were just about leaves blowing or waterfalls

And then a hundred years later a couple of pretentious millenials decided to retool it to mean "whatever I like"
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>>67696284
Why the fuck are you proudly tripfagging on this board, go back to /mu/ or take it off you dork
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>>67696284
t. pleb that doesn't have his own taste
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>>67696175
>like Sean Penn in the abominable Tree of Life
opinion discarded. Tree of Life is probably the greatest work of Christian art since Goethe
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>>67696000
underrated trips post
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>>67696327
>Spotlight is bad

back to your pedo threads.
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>>67696355
You're mistaking Kinematography with Kinography, a typical fucking retard who doesn't have a single clue what he's talking about mistake.
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>>67696457
>Spotlight is good
Are you one of the shitskins they allowed in the Academy this year?
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>>67696159
To add to this succulent exposé, Kino is the synthesis of the Sublime, the Benjaminian concept of the Aura, and Bahktinian dialogism. 'Kino is love, Kino is life' (Shrek, 2001).
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Tree of Life is the only major Hollywood kino since 2001
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All of you kino guys are going to shit your pants in awe when you discover videogames.
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>>67696415
>he doesn't know what the actual definitive Christian cinema is
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>>67693935
Use commas after your proposal adverbs. Also, learn how to write before criticising the writing of others.
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>>67693876
Kino is just German for Movie you fucking autist.
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>>67696646
Cringe.
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>>67696487
the academy is still full of white men

are a stormfag that's just mad and thinks it's da j00s again?
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So memes aside is Kinography actually good?

What kinos can you recommend?
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>>67696422
what an embarrassing response

just think, a real human being took the time to save that image and actually respond to someone with it
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>>67696729
>the academy is still full of white men
>this is a problem
Go watch Slumdog Millionaire again.
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>>67696651
Fuckin' HELL, that picture is DEEP.

Like, seriously deep.

Tarkovsky wishes he was that deep. Bresson is weeping because he could never be THAT deep.

Shit. Capeshit is, mayhaps, too deep for me.
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>>67696729
Hey shitskin
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>>67696770
Too bad those are just posters
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>>67693935
Hello redďit
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>>67696003
>Guy Pearce will never play The Riddler in a Nolan movie.
*groan*
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>>67696731
All of Tarkovsky's filmography except Solaris
Bergman's Persona
Fellini's 8½
All of Brakhage's work
All of Hertzfeldt's work
Naked (1993)
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>>67696720

Yeah, that's the point.
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>>67695806

Jesus fuck off already faggot no board wants you
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>>67696841
All of that is entry level film tier trash pleb
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>>67696841
>Brakhage
Garbage American nihilist
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>>67696763
I didn't say this is a problem. It's how it should be.

I just stated it was full of white men.

I think some younger white men should be in it though.
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>>67696832
The Riddler is like the shittiest villain though.
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>>67695991
what was this gif from? what show?
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>>67696886
Keep talking loser, I'd like to see your favorite Kino.
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>>67696938
Not him but that was cinéma, not kino
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>>67696911
>I think some younger white men should be in it though.
Of course you'd want that, teenager.
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>>67696219
I feel like I need to watch this now. I love bale so that may have something to do with it.
it any good?
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post yfw experiencing metaphysical kinotherapy
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>>67696964
Like hell it was, cinema is shit like Malick's work, Hard To Be A God and Under The Skin. Know the difference.
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>>67696990
I talking 40s and 50s, right now it's like 70 year olds.
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>>67697066
>cinema

I'm talking about cinéma though ugh I can't even right now I'm literally shaking
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>>67697073
>I talking 40s and 50s
I get it, you want Michael Bay and Zack Snyder in
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here's a 2015 example for you guys

>kino
victoria

>cinema
the assassin

>film
room

>movie
ex machina

>flick
fury road

>joint
age of ultron
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>>67696917
Untrue.
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I'd like to posit a new category-

You know how there's the usual filmography, let's call it normative filmography, that follows the usual rules of narrative, storytelling and themes that was very prevalent through the 70s-90s and then came these new films that do follow these rules but are also self aware of them and give the film a much more natural feeling, let's call it portamento normative filmography for its rise from a shallower form of expression to a higher one with more self awareness.

Take Blue Is The Warmest Color for example, in my opinion a perfect example of portamento normative filmography, or pornography for short.
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>>67697134
well now you're being unreasonable.
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>>67696841
>God has spoken and I've accepted his Grace
Terrence Malick

>Kinographer
Carl Th. Dreyer

>film maker
Orson Welles

>director
Chantal Akerman

>from mastermind
George Miller

>from the people who brought you
Zack Snyder
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>>67697405
>image.gif
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>people shit talking Fellini and Tarkovsky as "entry level pleb shit"

Is this 2013 /tv/?
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JOINTS
1. Inside Man (Lee, 2006)
2. Tpaнcфopмepы 3: Tёмнaя cтopoнa Лyны (Bay, 2011)
3. Zaat (Barton, 1971)
4. Los Cuatro Fantásticos (Trank, 2015)
5. Casablanca (Curtiz, 1942)

FLICKS
1. The Shining (Kubrick, 1980)
2. Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994)
3. Mauvais Garçons (Bay, 1995)
4. بادکنک سفيد (Panahi, 1995)
5. [달은 해가 꾼는 꿈] 예고편 (Park, 1992)

MOVIES
1. The Godfather, Part III (F. Coppala, 1990)
2. 一代宗師 / 一代宗师 (Kar-Wai, 2013)
3. Á bout de souffle (Godard, 1960)
4. American Graffiti (Lucas, 1973)
5. In the Name of the King (Boll, 2007)

FILMS
1. 建国大业 (Huang & Han, 2009)
2. Apocalypse Now (F. Coppala, 1979)
3. The Birth of a Nation (Griffith, 1915)
4. 十二生肖 (Chan, 2012)
5. IIIIIIIIIIIIIII1891091718191612$€€€&-@ (Sandler, 2017)

CINÉMA
1. Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo (Leone, 1966)
2. Bee Movie (Smith & Hickner, 2007)
3. Eyes Wide Shut (Kubrick, 1999)
4. तीन बेवकूफ (Hirani, 2009)
5. Kindsköpfe (Dugan, 2010)

KINO
1. Mondo Acquatico (Costner & Reynolds, 1995)
2. Herz aus Glas (Herzog, 1976)
3. 劇場版ポケットモンスター ミュウツーの逆襲 (Yuyama, 1998)
4. Avatar (Cameron, 2009)
5. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY
1. Interstellar (Nolan, 2014)
2. L'Ascension du Cheveliar Noir (Nolan, 2012)
3. Drive (Refn, 2011)
4. Чeлoвeк c кинoaппapaтoм (Vertov, 1929)
5. 01010101 01101110 00100000 01000011 01101000 01101001 01100101 01101110 00100000 01000001 01101110 01100100 01100001 01101100 01101111 01110101 (Luis Buñel, 1929)
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>>67697407
Malick is a great visual expressionist and a true auteur but when you watch his works you still feel like you're watching a film, that does not happen with true Kino.
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>>67697463
step it up plebé
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>>67697373
Blue actually achieves kino by blurring the line between progressive French issues movie and abby winters shoot. The method by which it's shot subverts its own message.
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>>67697422
pure autism

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/%3Eimage.jpg/
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>>67697527
>searching for image.jpg when I greentexted image.gif
Retard

Also
>image.gif
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>>67697475
>not including the ultimate category: Transcendental Kinohermetics
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>>67697560
I'm convinced you're just that one guy from /qa/ who's just spamming.
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>>67697567
>implying that there has even been a transcendental kinohermetic since The Anvil Hoarder (1930)
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>>67697630
dank twitter meme my friend!
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Fuck off OP.

Your shitty forced meme is trite and unconvincing.
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>>67697655
>tfw I witnessed the birth of that meme

New Years was fun.
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>>67696422
Ironic.
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>>67697520
patrician as fuck my friend
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>>67697688
Go back to your joints and flicks, philistine
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>>67697688
>WAAA WAA WAAA STOP BRINGING ADULT FILM THEORY AND DISCUSSION TO THIS BOARD IT REALLY UPSETS ME!!!
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>http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1002-Summer-2010/Screening-Room-Zack-Snyder.aspx
>As the film draws to a close with a majestic ocean vista of three ladies in white escorting Arthur's body to Avalon, Snyder muses on why genre films like Excalibur mean so much more to their fans than other types of movies. "People who like these kinds of movies, they're searching for something," he says. "It's like a lifestyle choice. You learn the dialogue. You really know the movie. I mean, after you see this, you go buy a sword."
>And yes, Snyder did. "It wasn't the exact same one," he says, laughing, "but it was the closest I could find."

Zack Snyder explained 'kino' himself half a decade ago using Excalibur as an example.

Who are some other kino-awakened filmmakers?
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>>67697669
you're image.jpg spamming is ironically worse than mobile posters.
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>>67697688
What "meme" you fucking retard? Is swear to fucking christ I will personally shoot myself in the head if you can even define what a meme is you braindead moron.

Either start watching kino or stop posting on our board literally anytime, fucking faggot, should be thankful I don't beat your ass.
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>>67697736
>image.jpg
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>>67697489
Malick transcends categories. The terms 'kino' or 'film' don't apply to his work. He shares more in common with the great Christian artists of the middle ages than he does with Bergman or Tarkovsky.
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>>67697725
>he says whilst crying about the patricians of letterbutt
I can't stop laughing
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>>67697770
Here is your reply.
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>>67697757
What a load of bullshit, never mention Malick and Tarkovsky in the same sentence ever again.
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>>67697736
t. mobile poster pretending to be someone on the fence
Turn off your auto correct, kid
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>>67697795
I agree. Malick has never made a film as fraudulent as Solaris.
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>>67697655
This.
The Anvil Hoarder (1930) is transcendental because it only existence within our collective conscious, and it is Kinohermetic as it belongs to the esoteric culture of dank memes and forum subculture.
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>>67697798
nah, I like it on. It helps more often than not.
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>>67697795
Tarkosvky is shit bro. Andrei Rublev is his only watchable film
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>>67693876
>The Real Definition of 'Kino'
>posts picture of Batman
haven't read a single word of your actual post and I never will. You are too stupid to even spend the time replying to
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>>67697791
Whats wrong princess? Did getting called out for being a plebeian reject make you shook?
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Kino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsUu0oCGLtg

Cinema:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsUu0oCGLtg


Film:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsUu0oCGLtg


Movie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsUu0oCGLtg


Flick:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsUu0oCGLtg
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>>67697882
>he thinks this entire thread is unironic
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>>67695176
>>67695489
>>67695626
I hope this meme continues of posting actual scenes from masterpieces alongside meme of the day material. It might actually teach people that their taste is shit
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>>67697863
Yeah truly, like Stalker and Mirror aren't miracles to cinema.
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fuck all of you
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>>67697862
>image.gif
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>>67697945
>that horrific samefagging
God /v/ IMDb sensibilities truly are cancerous
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>>67697917
Trust me lad it doesn't work
we tried this same thing in 2012 and all it did was give plebs more material to emulate for their favorite pleb shit to take home
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>>67697945
>post ironic memeing triggers you
we're pretending to be more pretentious than we actually are to scare away people like you who are afraid of actual art and actual intellectualism

the kino meme is supreme because it outs insecure fags like you
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>>67696024
Thank you
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>>67697945
And here comes the prerequisite village fool, spurting loud nonsense, his only purpose in life to be disregarded and pitied by the true intellectuals, the creators of culture and discussion.

Go on, ignore all we say so you can quite literally stay ignorant, it's all you can do after all.
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Joints

Flicks

Movies

Films

Cinéma

Kino

Absolute Kinography

Transcendental Kinohermetics

>any other categories anyone would like to add? I
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>>67698017
>posts fucking malick in 2016

Classic /tv/ """"patrician"""
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>>67698017
Not that guy, but you do realise what you're doing is just being a shitposting retard, right?
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>>67698040
KINGOGRAPHY (In capital letters, the kinography of kings)
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>>67698017
>actual art
>actual intellectualism
>post a picture of Malick
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For anyone that actually wants to be a /tv/ tastemaker
Follow picture related
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>>67698017
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>>67698063
Yeah, totally. Fucking excuse me for actually mentioning and discussing actual films with merit instead of making yet another post about the usual fucking summer blockbuster schlock on a film board.
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>>67698094
> jokes on you I was only pretending to be retarded.

YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON M8.
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>>67698130
By all means, suck my dick some more you stupid fuck.
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>>67698050
Malick, like Beethoven, appeals to both true patricians and fraudulent plebs. Don't hold his fans against him.
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>>67698159
it's ok, I love you too anon.
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>>67698204
Underage spotted.
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>>67698040
You missing

Trascendental Kinomemetics
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>>67698063
no im not. im posting my actual opinions in a smug and condescending fashion so that people who dont actually like film prefer to stay on reddit where only safe and lowest common denominator opinions are seen and that they're comfortable with
>>67698094
It's to make people like you leave
>>67698128
This is true but its only shitposting to retards. For instance if /tv/ wasn't a /v/edditor infested hellhole me proclaiming that Malick is one of the greatest artists of our time and can actually represent the intimacy and enormous grandeur of God and that capeshit is for dead beat white trash teenagers, that wouldn't cause a problem. Its only a problem to kids who love shit like Deadpool and will get mad and call me pretentious

yes, im being pretentious so people who are stupid get annoyed. People who actually have the capacity to discuss film wont even see half of my posts as shitposts because they'll respond in an informed manner.
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>>67698094
>Malick
>not the only director who's a legit intellectual
Rhodes scholar, MIT professor, Harvard graduate Summa Cum Laude, translated Heidegger from German and actually met the philosopher. Guy is patrician prime.
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>>67698182
Have fun being an uncultured ignorant retard your whole life you fucking disgrace, go watch your mindless entertainment knowing you will never amount to anything you fucking cretin.
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>>67698266
Except what you presume will be the result won't actually happen.

You think you're the first to have fucking tried? What the fuck do you think those stupid fucking frogposting retards are doing?
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>>67698040
Motion picture, which is in-between film and cinema
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>>67698310
Oh yeah man, work the shaft some more you dirty bitch. Anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint is obviously ignorant.

I'd ask if you actually know what the word cretin means but i'm sure you'll just google it.
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Why is Malick so divisive?

On one hand I want to like him because I'm a contrarian who likes whatever /tv/ hates, but on the other hand I hate what plebs like. So since half of critics and audiences like him and the other detest him, I'm really in two minds as to how to approach this auteur/hack. Needless to say, I care more about what people think of me than what I think of movies, as I expect /tv/ to do so as well. I think Terrence Malick is a new breed of director, one best described as 'hackauteur', which sounds like 'raconteur', or 'storyteller' in French.
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>>67698334
no I dont but it works

everytime some shit eating retard gets mad at the idea of art film existing I win
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>>67698368
Keep watching your capekino, kid. I'm done talking to you.
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>>67698374
"I win".

You don't win jack shit m8. All you're doing is spreading your cancerous bullshit and using an ass-backwards rhetoric to justify it. Ain't you got anything better to do?
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>>67698373
>I want to like him because I'm a contrarian who likes whatever /tv/ hates
Malick is generally liked on /tv/, especially compared to sites like r/movies and IMDB
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>>67698412
Then fuck off if you think you're right. Dickhead.
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>>67698348
Joints

Flicks

Movies

Films

Motion Picture

Cinéma

Kino

Absolute Kinography

Transcendental Kinohermetics/memetics

Ftfy
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>>67698266
you're as delusional as the pedo posters if you actually think that'll make people leave.
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>>67698441
>cancerous bullshit
>ass-backwards rhetoric
this is one of my favorite scenes in any film ever made and if you dont understand its artistic merit or at least respect its approach you are an idiot and objectively stupider than me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0VJa3HmsJQ
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>>67698374
Why are you posting an image made by an anti art /v/edditor from /r9k/ that was laughed out of /pol/ for being too garbage at posting??
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>>67698481
It won't make them leave, but we have to fight them regardless.
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>>67698295
by your logic James Franco is also a intellectual

>>67698310
take it easy you /lit/ reject
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>>67698266
See >>67698001
The only way to remove them is a capeshit board and derailing all star wars threads
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>>67698373
Most great artists are divisive. I'm not saying that the polarized response he generates is an indication of his quality, but if you look at any innovative artists throughout history they're generally equally derided and beloved by different groups of people. Malick is also more popular among fellow directors than among critics.
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>>67698486
> 4 minutes long.
Nice distraction technique.
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>>67698498
>>67698529
that means you've become this shitposters that are actually ruining this place
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>>67698544
>4 minutes
>long
the displays of your insipidness write themself
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>>67698521
>by your logic James Franco is also a intellectual
>>67698521
James Franco got into Yale because he was rich and famous. Comparing his intellectual achievements to Malick's is fucking retarded.
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>>67698486
I appreciate it's artistic merit, however that doesn't mean I don't think it's contrived bullshit.
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>>67698559
No, we're not the one ruining this place, matter of fact there's nothing left to ruin.
80+ threads about capeshit, all memes, no discussion, any post resembling a hint of care for film as an art form is a miracle to this place at this point in time.
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>>67698050
dumb long claire poster
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>>67698573
You'd rather have someone go away for a while than actually explain to them what it is you're trying to get at - WORSE - you presume that anyone who disagrees with you is in the wrong.

If anyone here is insipid, it would be you.
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>>67698559
if you think that kino and meme intellectualism is ruining this board more than capeshit and normy garbage posters consistently calling masterpieces like 2001 "boring" then you have to be stupid
>>67698598
if you think it's contrived or bullshit then no, you dont appreciate its artistic merit and are posing as someone who appreciates film when actually you dont
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>>67698604
this all comes down to you not liking something.

this isn't your board, YOU don't get to choose what people talk about here.
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>>67698242
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>>67698604
You are now aware that the worst thing that can ever happen in any entertainment medium is people taking themselves too seriously.
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>>67698559
For the parasitic pleb, there is a very thin line between shitposting and intelligent dialogue.

The only one ruining this board is the whining pleb like you, amigo ;^)
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>>67698641
>this isn't your board, YOU don't get to choose what people talk about here.
But the people that made this board accessible for new users like you did just that. They cried on /q/ so plebs like you could post here freely
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>>67698634
Projection, and possibly strawman.

I would wonder why you think you're such a fucking authority on the matter, but to be frank i'm quite sure you're just a jumped up, arrogant dipshit.
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>>67698641
we do though. this is our board and 90% of the capeshiters are tourists who dont actually like film.

anytime someone posts this in defense of garbage like capeshit its extremely ironic because what they're saying is that they deserve to come here and meme about trash without being called idiots for it

thats not what this place is for, sweetheart
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>>67695176
dense, Pedro. you're a dense motherucker
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>>67698473
>forgetting photoplays
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>>67698652
Yeah and you can go fuck yourself with your entertainment medium, I'm here to discuss art not grovel over ""entertainment"".
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>>67698685
> this is "our" board.

You and whose fucking army, m8. Last I checked we were all ANON here.
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>>67698694
Fuck! Where does that go?
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>>67698679
>and possibly strawman.
you dont even know what a strawman is? either I argued it or not. all you know it as is a buzzword against people acting condescending.
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>>67698242
>that picture
Literally the only good /tv/ meme
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>>67698708
Art is a form of entertainment, you massive wanker.

>>67698721
> acting.
Ah, I see. Then you're fully aware of how much of a condescending little shit you're being.
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>>67698647
>you will never get a memer locked up in real life jail
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>>67698668
if you don't like it, get the fuck out.

>>67698685
It's literally not yours.

>>67698708
stop crying you /lit/ reject
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>>67698751
you clearly cant follow the conversation
im being condescending and rude and a shit but my justification is that im right and you're wrong
>>67698779
>>67698713
>we won! reddit took over! deal with it
nope. you are going to be called shit eating retards every day you post your childrens cartoons here and deservedly so. if it makes you mad you can leave
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> actual retards shitting up the board while pretending they're making it better.

Jesus tittyfucking christ the ride never ends.
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>>67695176
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>>67698751
Art is a form of expression, blockbuster flicks like the capeshit you love is a form of entertainment, like fucking popcorn cola and hamburgers.

>>67698779
You get the fuck out, this board is for discussing films and you don't get to choose whether we (people who actually watch films) get to stay or leave.
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>>67698820
if kino triggers you its only because you dont actually like film. im sorry m8 thats just how it works
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>>67698817
protip; the people you're arguing against are long-term 4chan users who do not visit reddit and would rather cut their own dicks off.

What the fuck you gonna say now?
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>>67698817
>Reddit boogyman shitposting

is babby mad his favorite buzzword got filtered? shut the fuck up.
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>>67698779
>if you don't like it, get the fuck out.
Why? Your kind proved all I have to do is keep crying and spamming and the mods will listen to me
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Is Jacques Tati Kino?
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>>67698852
>all I have to do is keep crying and spamming and the mods will listen to me

Well you're halfway there lmao.
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>>67698851
it's not a boogeyman or a buzzword if its real

reddit is shit and if you cant tell that from the way people post on here you're either a redditor or stupid
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>>67698837
Art is also a way of enjoying something, such as movies.
Everything about going to the Cinema is a form of Art, from buying the ticket to getting popcorn to sitting down in a cinema seat and enjoying the movie.

"blockbuster" films are no less a form of art than whatever bullshit it is you hold up on a plinth.

>>67698842
Fuck off with that Kino shit m8. You are not the arbitrator of some new film genre or medium of expression, you're just another retard with ideas too big for his britches.
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Kino:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s

Cinema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s

Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUDdQS2UxA

Movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7LsBMA-rKg

Flick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaaJyAjvajo
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>>67693876
so kino is entry-level cinematography
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>>67698883
I know
They left up a dox thread full of "capekino" spammers info for 4+ hours. Even the mods are sick of you plebs
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>>67698929
>"blockbuster" films are no less a form of art than whatever bullshit it is you hold up on a plinth.
spotted the genuine, certified, undeniable, self-identified anti-intellectual
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>>67698825
>pointing to critical reception as a substitute for actually forming and articulating an opinion
In a competitive field, you're the biggest pleb in this thread.
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>>67698958
They need to be banned for being a bunch of shitposting retards.
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>>67698910
I'm not defending Reddit at all, but you're just throwing around a buzzword at things you don't like. Grow up and accept that people like things that you don't.

Don't open capeshit threads if you hate it so much.

there, problem solved.
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Experimental video art is pure kinography
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>>67698934
ah fuck, cinema should have been-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArmHSPIvlQ
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>>67698964
> my form of art is better than your form of art!
And he calls me anti-intellectual. What a stupid cunt.
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>>67698929
This is fucking gold, a guy who hasn't even watched On the Silver Globe thinks he can bullshit me about art being about paying corporations for your precious freedom fries and blockbusters carefully constructed by a team of bigwigs to appeal to the largest audience and make the most money.

What a fucking disgrace this board is.
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>>67698980
>Don't open capeshit threads if you hate it so much.
this is how I did it 4 years ago

now 80% of /tv/ is cape garbage and the other 20% is even worse memes about shitty tv shows

fuck you and the garbage pile you dragged in with you
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>>67698999
this 100%
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>>67698999
yes, real films by auteur filmmakers are better than capeshit. objectively.
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>>67699012
don't blame me just because you can't enjoy things.
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>>67699006
If you don't like it, leave.

Faggots like you always turn up regardless of what board it is, and it's always the same fucking argument. Fucking waste of fucking time.
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>>67698999
You couldn't tell me what art is if it hit you like your wife's son in the face.
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>>67698999
>shit made in emails sent between executives is art
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>>67699050
Except for SHIT films. You are OBJECTIVELY WRONG.
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>>67699050
Art is subjective
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>>67698999
>uses cunt as an insult
>anything thats not a feel good accept everybody opinion not welcome
hola reddit
>>67699054
I enjoy lots of things. Just not entire genres of garbage written for children and consumed by feeble minded and mildly retarded adults
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>>67698972
At least we know the superhero fans are actual locals though
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>>67699067
>>67699080
You can't polish shit, faggots.
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>>67699067
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>>67698865
The Adam Sandler of his time
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>>67699083
of course. doesnt mean you cant be wrong about it. saying that Daredevil has just as much artistic merit as Tree of Life is unprovable.
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>>67699093
Again with the reddit shit.

In my experience it's the people who throw that around as an insult that spend more time on it than anyone else.

>>67699103
Except for when they're not.
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>>67699093
>Reddit boogyman shitposting as if it means anything
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>>67699061
I'm sorry, are you talking about yourself? Because as far as I can tell, you're the one ruining any possibility of discussion of actual film, actual art on this board in favor of blockbuster capeshit abominations.

I'm not leaving and I never will, and I'll continue to created threads about ""pretentious"" films in hopes that maybe I can get the couple of people left in this fucking board who still care about film instead of capeshit and memes to have some worthwhile discussion with me.

Not because I care about my preconceived idea of what this board is, not because of my disdain towards your kind of anti-intellectuals, but because there is no other place on the entire internet when I could have the kind of honest discussion about film you used to be able to garner here.
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>>67699140
>>67699142
seriously, redditors in disguise trying to pretend that there's nothing wrong with reddit nor the fact that you can't spot it from a mile away

its culture is distinct, retarded, anti-intellectual, unfunny, and cancerous
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>>67699147
> he wants to have an honest discussion about film.

We're having one. You're wrong. Deal with it.
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