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>Main character lives in European society, in a period between the years 1200 and 1800
>At some point in the plot, in a context that is relatively irrelevant to their character, they say
>I don't really believe in religion though. Like, I think it's kind of all bullshit
>mfw
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>>67670643

name 1
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>>67670643
Then he says; "If religion never existed, we'd already have cars." and tips helmet.
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>>67670643
>American """"""""""""""""""""""""""""education""""""""""""""""""""
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>>67670643
>Movie set in ancient times
>Makes refferences to pop culture
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>>67670679
Binged on "and then there were none" yesterday and the only character to show any sign of religiousness is the crazy religious old lady

I don't know, I'd have thought it would be a bit more common than that

Also "soldier island" is the most unnecessary renaming ever
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>Setting is medieval or colonial Europe
>Females openly backtalk, besmirch, mock, and even physically overpower men
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>>67670802
>Movie set in middle ages.
>Freddy Mercury starts singing
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>>67670863
Flint's wife in Black Sails has a scene like that in season one or two.
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>Day 37. They still have not yet realized I am a moor.
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>>67670949
Delete this
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>>67670970
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>it's a 50s-60s based series were black people are treated exactly like as if it was 2016 episode
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>>67671013
>no Ben Garrison signature
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>movie takes place in pre-modenr times
>everyone has perfect teeth
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>>67671087
something something sugar
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>The setting is colonial America
>they find it necessary to establish deep disgust and disapproval of slavery and bigotry against Africans, for each and every character in the primary cast

This is especially bad in American made movies.
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>>67671128
fun fact: peasants used to paint their teeth black since sugar was expensive and black teeth was a sign of wealth
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>>67671087
>>67671128

Sugar was brought to Europe from the Middle East during Middle Ages, before that food was sweetened with honey and people didn't have holes in their teeth.
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>>67670643

>What are nordic countries such as finland and estonia
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>>67671154
>Character is a 40+ year old part of the upper class in baroque Europe
>Is not constantly in crippling pain and agony from untreatable root canals
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>>67671172
What do you mean? Finland has been Christian from around 1200, and before that there was pagan religion. Atheism is a really recent thing anywhere in the world I think.
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>>67671172
>paganism means not believing in gods and instead being in perfect communion with nature

I hate the noble savage meme so much
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>>67671214

There were still a lot of agnostics, not necessarily atheists.
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>>67671246
Yea I guess nobody really believed in Christanity ever. The way the Church has made it seem like they were the singlemost defining aspect of our culture for almost 1,000 years is really a testament to the evil that religion poses to the enlightenment of humanity
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>>67671290
>1000

Try 2000
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>>67671290
*tips fedora
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>>67671246
What there were was a shitload of god-fearing brainless peasants. Of course there are always some exceptions to the rule especially when approaching modern times, but really though can you name a single Finnish person from 1200-1500 who was an agnostic or atheist?
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>>67671172
>>67671214
There's a big push in atheist circles to rewrite history in such a way as to legitimize it by pretending it has a history, as if it were a real culture, instead a recent subculture (which reminds me of furries who claim the ancient egyptians were the first furries). And that means, among other things, claiming that pagans were actually atheist, and that christianity and christians were always just an oppressive aberation in european history.
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>>67671469
The American media, for one, has definitely made a collective decision that the masses cannot be trusted with a realistic depiction of our history.
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>>67670643
Religion was declared a scam in ancient Greece.
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>>67671469
>>67671445

I'm not saying they were atheists you dumb hicks, I'm saying a lot were AGNOSTICS, that is, they didn't give a shit whether there was a god or not
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>>67671510
[citation needed]
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>>67671193
>untreatable root canals

Root canals are literally treatment, you mong.

It's not like they didn't know how to pull out a tooth if it started to cause too many problems, either.
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>>67670970
That's a play though. That's different.
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>Film is set in Medieval Europe
>Desaturated colour and grey skies, never blue skies and green fields.
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>>67671506
Medieval Europe was not ancient Greece.

God damn it the Greeks were cool, though. Fuck.
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>>67671469
That's just dumb, must edgy 'murica atheist kids going at it or something. I'm an atheist and have never encountered anyone trying to rewrite history into that, I appreciate my national history with Finnish pagan gods and christianity though I don't believe in either.

>>67671510
>I'm saying a lot were AGNOSTICS
And still you can't name even one.
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>>67671649
There is no reason to be this upset. You're shouting at thin air.
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If you were a noble in medieval times could you get away with raping commoners? Like going out and raping a new bitch every week and everyone in your lands knows about it and some witnessed it
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>>67671667
I'm not upset, I'm chilling at a boring lecture. Also that's a pretty weak comeback trying to revert the attention from the fact you still haven't managed to name anyone.
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>>67671734
If you have loyal men protecting you then sure, though I would imagine the peasants would get fed up with you raping their women and would revolt if possible.
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>>67671734
Peasants were rather prone to revolting, so you could try but it probably wouldn't end well for you
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>>67671506
Epicurus never said that. It's misattributed to him by later writers. And he was a pagan
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>>67671734
They'll complain to other barons / counts / dukes / the king but unless it was really bad it would probably not be a problem

raping them in front of them in western europe wouldn't fly though, but in more savage places it don't see it being troublesome
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>>67671734

Not in plain sight. It'd be easy to get away with in secret but unless you were the King there was always somebody above you that somebody below you could go to in order to snitch.

Besides, the higher up you were the more outnumbered you got. Just because it wasn't a democracy didn't mean those people couldn't vote with a sword.
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>>67670876
They openly stated they weren't going for historical accuracy in AKT
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>>67671840
Of course he was. He lived before christianity, negro. And how the the fuck do you know it is misattributed?
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>>67671734
definitely not openly. But you could got away with lot of stuff as long as you were subtle, rich and important.
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>>67672026
Gilles de Rais did nothing wrong
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>>67672026
delete this
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>>67670863
>and then there were none
>between 1200 and 1800

nigga what
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I hate this fucking trope
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>>67672070
>people stopped being religious after 1800
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>>67670643
I have literally never came across something like this.
Maybe Kingdom of Heaven comes close, but that was the entire premise of the movie.
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>ancient times setting
>all the woman constantly questioning their place in society instead of being pregnant or starving.
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>>67670643
>film is set in history
>main hero believe all people, classes, genders, nations, races and religions are equal
>anybody who doesn't share his opinion is depicted as dumb or evil.
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>>67671445
Can you name a single Finnish person from 1200-1500?
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>>67670949
>>67670970
Who makes these?
I'm not even white, and this shit is offensive to me.
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>>67672184
The man, the legend
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>>67672184
Genghis Khan
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>>67672183
Heh.

This
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>>67672190
Multiculturalism propaganda

No nations or races are needed on the NWO train. We're all gonna be ""equal""
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>>67670949
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>>67670970
>Eddie George as Julius Caesar

Nigga wtf? That dude was a running back for the Titans.

I gave him a free pineapple once.
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>film takes place in middle ages
>everything is dark, skies are foggy or dark
>there is a torch burning even though it's daytime
>there's a torch burning in a room with no one there
>the king and the nobles wear shitty clothing
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>>67671148
and republicanism
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>>67672118
read the op
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>>67670949
>moors
>black

Is this the biggest WE WUZ ever? Most people actually think they were black
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>>67671578
and everyone is wearing brown or forest green clothing
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>>67672026
He did nothing wrong. That was eternal Anglo-dogs propaganda.
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>>67672215
>>67672213
I love these memes. Fino-mongolian friends.
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>>67672297
>The main protagonist encounters a grisly and deformed man sadistically abusing his pitiful and gorgeous wife
>The man is clothed in a sleeveless, low cut tunic that has somehow remained a bleached white color despite the dirt and grime that coats all other fabrics on screen
>The protagonist smirks and quips a sarcastic insult to the man, before beheading him on the spot
>Blood splatters across the beautiful wife's face
>She moves to wipe her eyes with the hem of her dress
>Wait, allow me, says the protagonist gently, and, reaching for an open bible on the windowsill, he rips a fistful of pages, and proceeds to gently dab the woman's face
>At her expression of shock and terror, the handsome protagonist smiles, and responds
>"There's no need to be afraid of putting objectively untrue lies to a better use, M'lady"
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>>67672502
>village priest arrives on the scene
>"Osmund! I knew you were a heretic! You shall suffer for this transgression against the Lord!"
>Priest draws his staff
>main protagonist whispers in his wife's ear: "Take your son and go to Jamal, I'll handle this."
>main protagonist turns to the priest
>"Let's do this."
>the priest smirks
>"I've waited a long time for this."
>with a fury of a thousand warrior monks, the two warriors attack each other
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>>67672648
>main protagonist whispers in his wife's ear: "Take your son and go to Jamal, I'll handle this."

In my opinion this ruins the satire, because it's too extreme an exaggeration of the current tropes, and just makes the satirist look perverted and racially insecure.

Rather, have the protagonist be a """moor,""" with a huge afro. That is a more accurate mimicry of the actual imagery that is in real media (and not only on 4chan)

"Cuckoldry," and all the racial intonations of it, is only relevant in the backwater shithole on 4chan, but loses its relevance the second normans see it off site.

I wish /pol/ understood this.
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>>67672718
>/pol/
>capable of humor
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>>67670863
>Changing the name of "Nigger Island" for a BBC drama
>Unnecessary
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>>67671290
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>>67671506
This implies that God is a thing. God is the only thing.
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>>67672753
/pol/ IS humour
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>>67672753
>>67672828
/pol/ used to be much funnier, and is still sometimes very funny.

But all in all, they have moved slash have BEEN moved into a direction of increasingly hysterical, knee jerk reactionary anger. Personally, I think all political centres online are plied by NGO's or whoever, as a proxy to control the future limits of the overton window in society. In that sense, I think /pol/ has been encouraged to become more radical, more aggressive (and as a result, less genuinely funny), because it ensures that their scope of influence in the future will be decreased.

The CIA, for example, has been playing games like this with fundamentalist Islam for a long time.
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>>67672756
So brainwashed you don't even realize it

One of the most known resorts in my country is called "cap nègre" which means "cape nigger" and it's regularly said on national television, and nobody gets offended by it
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>movie takes place in medieval age
>thatching is only few inches thick on the roofs.

Who are they trying to fool here.
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>>67670643
>atheism didn't exist before the 19th century
Jesus christ, kill yourself.
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>>67670863
>"and then there were none"
>between the years 1200 and 1800

Also, they were all murderers who thought they'd gotten away with their crimes. If there's any group of people you'd expect not to be religious, it's that one.
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>>67670863

But that's not even close to what you said in the OP.
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>>67672880
In the US, the term "nigger" has been heavily propagandized as having the ONLY meaning of

>I hate ugly stupid niggers and want to murder them for fun

So while in other countries it might have a more general and relatively slight negative connotation, to Americans, it has been drilled into us that "Nigger" equates to

>Four inbred, uneducated, violent, rifle wielding, white male, southern rednecks in wife beaters, hollering and hooping in the back of a pickup truck as they drive down a dirt road looking for fear stricken and helpless negro families to rend limb from limb while laughing and smiling

And while such things have happened in our cultural history, it was not like, even back then, that the word "nigger" had such an explicitly violent association. Compare, for example, the word "honkey," that blacks used to derogatorily refer to whites. At some point in our cultural history, those two slurs probably carried similar intentions. But that's not the way it's portrayed today. Today, we are relentlessly reminded of white cruelty, and only white cruelty.
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>>67670970

>gets because he's black

Pottery
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>>67673029
I'm not the OP
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>>67673029
>>67673077
I'm the OP

Just wanna make sure we're all clear on identities here
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>>67673156
>>67673077
You're both faggots, either way.
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>>67672184
Mikael Agricola, father of the Finnish language.
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>>67670643
There were always Doubters even in the time of the ancient greeks.

I guarantee you the very first time a caveman looked up and said "i think there great spirit that make thunder in sky because angry", another caveman told him he was full of shit.
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>>67672866
>that screencap

Yeah maaaaajor problem with this. How the fuck would you ensure that the original wromg information/trapped narrative wouldnt become more successful than your planned counter-attack? Its fucking easy to form an opinion and very hard to change it and facts sadly have a rather small role in all of this.
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>>67673906
*tips fur-cloak*
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>>67672399
>got
>wildlings literally just wear modern hunting jackets

Every season has gotten worse too. They aren't even trying.
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>>67673906
Not to the extend you seem to think.

If you read old texts and letters then all the way into the 19th century people just assumed the existence of god was a given and "doubters" were seen as weirdos or ignitable material.
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>>67671506
you're acting like the whole of ancient Greece declared this
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>>67670643
Plenty of people in Europe between the 1200s and 1800s only feigned religious belief, but feigning would require they at least play the part regardless of their beliefs otherwise.

It's also true that certain christian sects were still rooting out pagans well into the 1500s and somewhat beyond. There was also an issue with people not being "Christian' in the right way at various points in that timeline.

Plenty of room for non-religious or uncommonly religious people.

That said, a lot of it wouldn't have been said outright because nothing good would have come from it, and I wouldn't think there'd be any sort of majority of such people at the time. Not in europe anyways. Obviously beyond europe there were fucktons of non-Christians of all manner.
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>>67673916
>How the fuck would you ensure that the original wromg information/trapped narrative wouldnt become more successful than your planned counter-attack?

There are risks, but in the end they have a much greater influence and resource base. If they're unsure that a particular snowball, once released, can't be controlled, they don't start it down the slope.
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>>67672243
Unless you make a movie about non-white people and cast white people in the roles. Then it's time to arrest people.
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Name fourteen kinos where this happens in.
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>>67670863
THERE'S A NEW ADAPTATION OF 10 LITTLE NIGGERS?

WELL SHIT, TIME TO STOP WATCHING THE 1945 VERSION WHICH WAS PRETTY GOOD EXCEPT FOR THE LAST 3 MINUTES.

THE DVD EVEN CAME WITH OLD TIMEY NEWSREELS FROM THE END OF THE WAR.
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>story's set in the past
>main character is a girl
>she disguises as a boy to do boy stuff and make her family earn money
too many of these, you can stop now
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>>67671290
>>67671506
>>67673906
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>>67671506

How would that make sense, though? Not all gods are said to be especially loving. And how could a human being decide what is ultimately good or evil in the grand scheme of things?
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>>67671290

How is this enlightenment achieved exactly? Christianity made science what it is today and gave us universities.
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the people who believed in christianity in the 1200-1800s are the same kind of people who thought TFA was a good movie today
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>>67670643
Clever people recognise the value of religion as a moral authority with the influence to control the stupid opinions of stupid people.

The lack of any moral authority outside of political correctness and feminism is the reason for the modern decline into degeneracy
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>>67670949
Of cool, they're remaking Black knight?
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>>67674853
Is it really ONLY PC and feminism culture?

You think you might also be a part of the denigration?
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>old setting
>none of the women have armpit hair
never any hairy women. I don't even have a fetish it's just something that is always weird to me since its so obviously inaccurate
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>>67673981
>not sabretooth skull helmet
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>>67671506
>medieval
>Ancient Greco-Roman

pick one you fucking moron
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>>67675699
>being a manlet capable of wearing a cat-skull as a helmet

Floresiensis please leave.
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>>67674853
this desu

atheists and non-Christians can only be open (and some more radical) because we have a more developed sense of empathy and globalisation
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>>67674928
>ancient greek setting
>the men are hairy
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>>67675752
Why is nobody making a big deal of the fact we've found RDJ's people?
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>>67671240
>noble savage meme

I think there is a book called that, it's pretty good, I'm half way thru
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>>67671290
Now, this is pod*tipping
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>>67674258
>Plenty of people in Europe between the 1200s and 1800s only feigned religious belief,

And what evidence is that based on?
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>>67670643
What movies have the most accurate depiction of medieval life?
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>>67676205
Michael Kohlhaas
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Ikr, people often forget that atheism was invented by reddit a few years ago
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