Jesus christ was this a cluster fuck of a movie. Did anyone else get lost trying to follow the plot like me? I felt like an idiot because I had no clue what the sequence of the movie was supposed to be.
>>67619922
jesus christ...
>Oh look another capeshit thread
>>67619922
No
It was fuckign straightforward to a fault. how could people not follow this film?
>>67619956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnJMebOQ1uk
what happens when capeshit comes out
>>67619972
>Flash time travels
>....into a DREAM
DA FUQ?
>>67620018
edge
>>67619922
The editing and pacing were all fucked up. Snyder couldn't scene transition for shit. Plus there were no establishing shots.
Snyder is a fucking hack who needs to be fired already.
>>67619956
Who the fuck are you quoting? Whenever people do this it just screams "I just got here from /b/!". Why don't you fuck off back there?
>>67620092
Oh shit that weird nigga was supposed to be the flash? Fuck man I just don't understand what the fuck was going on in the movie.
>>67620092
it wasnt a dream you dumbfuck
>>67620181
>He thinks greentext is just for quoting
You're retarded
>>67619972
What was Lex Luthor's motivation? If he wanted Superman dead why did he try to prevent Batman from having Kryptonite? More importantly, why did he want Superman dead?
Only reply if you have concrete answers stated in either the film or the previous one. I don't care about your fanfic headcanon.
>>67620092
>marvelfag literally doesn't understand a capeshit flick
what a twist
>>67619922
You're dumb, accept it and move on.. It's ok my wife is dumb too, not everyone is smart.
>>67619972
100 IQ is dumb. My guess is people with lower than 110 IQ either couldn't follow or were too bored to even try to follow.
There was an interesting story buried somewhere in this movie. So many of the pieces were there, but the suggestion was awful. At first I didn't understand all the hate, then I realized there is so much shit in this movie that only makes sense if you come into the movie already immersed in comicdom. I will still say I enjoyed it, but I admit as a stand-alone movie it didn't do what it needed to do.
>>67620209
It isn't, but it's not for what he's doing either. It's like those rare occasion when someone randomly greentexts something dumb like "top kek". They're just reacting to something and 99% of people would type that normally, but some autistic chucklefucks feel the need to randomly greentext bits of text for no reason and it just looks stupid.
>>67619972
>Why was Lois in Africa?
>Why was Luthor's men in Africa?
>Why did Luthor set up Superman with weird bullets?
>How did Luthor know who Superman was?
>How did Luthor know who Batman was?
>How did Luthor know that Kryptonian fingerprint readers were more primitive than human ones?
>How did Luthor know that there would be a way to defeat Superman in there?
>Why did they give Luthor full access to the ship unmonitored and Zod's body and never question when he disappears inside for hours on end?
>Why did Luthor try to smuggle the Kryptonite in when he was trying to get legal permission to bring it in at the same time?
>Why did Batman know what Kryptonite was when he was persuing the White Portuguese?
>Why did Superman care about someone beating up a human slave trader and a pedophile so much when he was getting flak for causing an international incident?
>Why did Superman ignore the truck with rocket launchers and machine guns to chase after Batman?
>How did Luthor know that Superman would show up to catch Lois?
>How did Lois know to go get the spear?
>Why was Wonder Woman trying to get the photo, when she would have never raised attention if she just never showed up.
>When did Superman realize that Batman was Bruce Wayne?
>Why was Aquaman holding his breath underwater with his cheeks puffed up?
>Why did Luthor want to kill Superman and Batman?
>Why did Luthor make a giant mutant retard he had no means of controlling?
>How did Luthor know how to make a giant mutant retard?
>Why didn't the robot recognize that Luthor wasn't Zod and was an intruder?
>Why did they build a monument to Superman when the last scene in MoS has him threatening a general and saying the military can't do dick to stop him?
I could go on
>>67620345
*direction was awful. Autocorrect snapped my neck
>>67620354
Please do.
>>67620354
Alright man your first 3 questions are actually answered very clearly in the movie.
I stopped reading from there and I'm gonna leave this shit thread but I just wanted to say that you're a fucking idiot before I do.
>>67620354
youre a retard. a complete fool. i need to stop coming to this shit board
>>67620606
Please stop. No one asked you to come.
>>67620354
>Why was Lois in Africa?
She's a reporter for The Daily Planet and she was interviewing a supposed terrorist.
>How did Luthor know who Superman was?
Because Superman went to Africa just to save Lois Lane.
>How did Luthor know that there would be a way to defeat Superman in there?
If there was a way, it was going to be there.
>Why did they give Luthor full access to the ship unmonitored and Zod's body and never question when he disappears inside for hours on end?
Because he got the proper clearance with false kryptonian fingerprints.
>Why did Luthor try to smuggle the Kryptonite in when he was trying to get legal permission to bring it in at the same time?
Because he DIDN'T get legal permission and was going to have it either way.
>Why did Superman care about someone beating up a human slave trader and a pedophile so much when he was getting flak for causing an international incident?
Because the branding was a death sentence in prison.
>How did Luthor know that Superman would show up to catch Lois?
Because he knew who Superman was.
>How did Lois know to go get the spear?
Doomsday was shooting laser beams from his eyes and originated from within the Kryptonian ship crash site.
>Why was Wonder Woman trying to get the photo, when she would have never raised attention if she just never showed up.
To minimize the amount of people potentially able to find her secret.
>When did Superman realize that Batman was Bruce Wayne?
When he heard his conversation with Alfred using superhearing and putting it together on his own.
>How did Luthor know how to make a giant mutant retard?
He was able to learn many things from the ship's library of many planets, including that.
>Why did they build a monument to Superman when the last scene in MoS has him threatening a general and saying the military can't do dick to stop him?
This movie took place nearly 2 years later during which Superman saved countless people.
Answered the ones I could.
>>67620393
>How did Diane know what Bruce hooked up to the server?
>How did she know he was setting it up so that her car was ready to leave on time?
>Why was Perry so intent that Clark write about football rather than the breaking news on national television?
>Why did Superman have that crazy vision on the mountain?
>Why did the Flash's warning have no importance to the story?
>Why did Superman use the Kryptonite spear instead of giving it to WonderWoman?
>Why did getting hit with a nuke from below send Doomsday crashing down to the planet?
>Why did Luthor send back the dozens of checks with messages on them, when it had no influence on Bruce wanting to kill Superman?
>Why did Bruce say "He brought the war to us" when Superman spent the last two years doing absolutely no conquering even though he was considered unstoppable?
>Why was the scout ship completely barricaded but nobody cared about the terraforming ship, literally leaving it to be salvaged by the locals?
>Why didn't the government just ask for Superman's help exploring the scout ship?
>Why was it so easy for Batman to steal the Kryptonite?
>Why would Lex send an armed escort with the Kryptonite when it was smuggled in secretly and wanted Batman to take it?
>>67620873
Dude don't answer wrongly.
Lex already knew who Superman was. He set up the whole thing in Africa for Lois because he knew superman was going to save her and wanted to frame him.
That was the whole plot with Lois Lane, how did people miss that...
>>67620987
>Lex already knew who Superman was.
But how?
>>67620987
So you're telling me that prior to the film, a key plot point is explored. Why would they do that? Why wouldn't they inform the audience some how that Lex already knew? Why wouldn't they show a scene where he realizes who Superman is? How can you ask how did people miss that when it was never shown in the film?
>>67621048
>>67621055
I didn't say the movie is good.
And many people are asking the same question of "How did he know who Superman was?"
But what the other anon said was wrong.
There is no point where he realizes who Superman is. Or at least he knew that Superman had a connection with Lois and maybe later on figured out it was actually Klark Kent.
Lois talks to the black government dude, finds out the bullet was owned by Lex Corp. Asks a bunch of questions. Her last question is "How did he know Superman would be there?" Then we have a flashback of her as a hostage and superman saving her. She then realizes she was bait and then leaves.
>>67620873
>she was interviewing a supposed terrorist
One that was being monitored by the CIA.
Why though? If it was so important then why was it not important anywhere else in the story?
The bullets used to kill the general's men was literally the only point of the story. They called him a terrorist but never said why he was a terrorist.
>Because Superman went to Africa just to save Lois Lane.
That doesn't answer the question at all. His men were already there, implying he knew Superman would show up. If he knew that, why didn't they ever state that he knew?
>If there was a way, it was going to be there.
He was already well into his plan for Superman and Batman to fight. Doomsday was a huge part of that plan, meaning he was betting that there was a way in a Kryptonian ship to kill super powered Kryptonians, that they didn't use in the fight of Metropolis.
>Because he got the proper clearance with false kryptonian fingerprints.
Current fingerprint scanners in iPhones wouldn't be fooled with that from what I understand. Their technology allowed for a full genetic scan of Zod in seconds. How did their security gate get fooled?
>Because he DIDN'T get legal permission and was going to have it either way.
They never established how much time passed, so I'm assuming the ship was already near the port and ready to disembark with the mercenary guards.
>Because the branding was a death sentence in prison.
Two guys were mentioned, one was a pedophile if I remember right. The guy was only beaten, which is completely natural for pedophiles in prison.
Which still doesn't answer why that was Superman's biggest concern. If anything he should be stopping violence in prisons.
>Because he knew who Superman was.
Doesn't answer the question. Last scene Clark was fucking off on the other side of the planet. How was he so sure that Superman would show up and catch her?
>originated from within the Kryptonian ship crash site.
So she safely assumed it was a Kryptonian monster?
>>67621055
The scene where Batman tries to steal the Kryptonite is an even more egregious example of off-screen bullshit
Why the fuck would you film an extended chase scene, have Batman fail in his goal making the entire chase scene pointless, but Batman ends up getting what he wanted in a completely separate unseen event? What the fuck is the point of that?
>>67620873
>>67621170
>To minimize the amount of people potentially able to find her secret.
And that secret is what? That she's immortal? Without referencing jack shit, why was she hiding and who is she? Don't give me that shit that we're supposed to infer from another god damn movie that explains that Batman's parents are dead in the very beginning.
>When he heard his conversation with Alfred using superhearing and putting it together on his own.
That doesn't answer the question. Corporate espionage is a thing. He knew he was after files and that was it.
>He was able to learn many things from the ship's library of many planets, including that.
So we have to infer he ship told him that, when it only mentioned that it was considered an abomination to mess with genetics and that the council had outlawed it? When did it say the mutant retard would want Superman dead?
>This movie took place nearly 2 years later
The monument was to the lives lost in the attack, and didn't honor the military members that kamikaze'd the alien ship and saved the planet.
>>67621264
Because the extent of that would-be scene, is Batman busting through the front door of LexCorps and braking some glass.
>>67621343
But why not have Batman get the Kryptonite during the exciting chase scene then?
>>67621432
Because Superman was fucking his shit up.
>>67621464
I mean from a story perspective. There's no need for that entire lengthy chase is Batman wasn't going to get the Kryptonite, but he DID need the kryptonite for the later scenes. It's a scene that could have had plot relevence but WB went out of their way to make sure it had zero.
>>67620247
Lex Luthor was abused by his father and resolved that no one could save him from his rich, all owning, all powerful father. Not even God. But Lex, being a troubled youth, took this to mean that God simply did not care. Instead of thinking God did not exist, possibly because he did not want to assume there was truly no greater power than his abusive father or because he assumed his father needed a father himself (the figurative "father"), Lex therefore reasons that not only does God exist but he is not good. If he was good, he would protect Lex from his father.
So here are the main points.
> God is all powerful
> God is not good
In his mind, power cannot be good because God is not good. Therefore he refuses to believe Superman is good. " You know that oldest lie in America, Senator? That power can be innocent."
Lex, being a spoiled cunt and on the tail end of total abuse, obviously vies for nothing short of pure power himself. Which is why he not only wants to defeat Supes bc he's projected his father unto Supes, he also wants to BECOME his father and therefore would have to other throw Supes.
So there you go. Motivation, two fold.
>>67621881
Overthrow** Supes.
>>67619922
I'm about to go watch it.
What am I in for?
>>67620092
>thinks that was a dream
>Zack '300 Suckepunch' Snyder is hard to follow for the patricians of /tv/
>>67621945
Do you appreciate themes such as Greek tragedy, the hero's journey as depicted by Christ, political philosophy such as democracy vs autocracy, and the paradigm within the nuclear family?
Do you enjoy heavy symbolism and rhetoric which exemplifies these themes through dialogue and cinematography with multiple interpretations?
Do you like seeing Batman and Superman fuck shit up?
If yes, have fun.
*tips fedora while stepping out of the shadows*
The pitiful peons at Marvel have underestimated the power of DC one time too many. The "Marvel Cinematic Universe". Huh. A shoddily shot, messily put together series of soulless and artless wastes of celluloid designed to appeal to the base intellects of moronic manchildren still dreaming of becoming powerful as they waste their lives away masturbating to images of Black Widow.
Only a fool and a weakling of mind could gain satisfaction from watching poorly animated CGI trade weightless and impactless punches while trading quips a severely mentally retarded Thai ladyboy would find beneath him/her.
DC understand cinéma. They understand kino. DC know how to build shade and light in a performance, how to engage the minds of true enlightened souls. DC have redefined not just superhero films, but the entire film industry itself.
Mentally challenged Marvel fanboys can only begin to grasp the tectonic shift in filmmaking that has been unleashed. Critics and reviewers fail to recognize a movie far ahead of its time once again, crying on their blogs about lack of snark and quipping - failing to recognize a literal masterpiece as it unfolds before them.
The public have responded. The entire filmmaking industry has been shaken to its core. DC have changed the game utterly - a new landscape is carved, a beauty is born, a God walks among men.
*teleports away*
>>67621945
Just pay attention and you'll have a decent movie experience.
Why did superman get blamed for a bunch of terrorists getting shot with lexcorp bullets when he's never used a gun, and wouldn't ever need to? He didn't even show up until they were already dead
About the Africa thing...do people actually believe that Lex endgame was actually to blame Superman instead of just tarnish him and just let people with a previous agenda, like the Senator, to have more ammo to shit on him?
Like the botton line was that Superman showed up and a lot of people died, not that Superman killed the people.
Maybe i got it wrong, but i don't think so.
It was stupid of him to use his own bullets thou, but otherwise Lois would have nothing to do for the rest of the movie.
>>67621464
god tier, movie shot tho. potential wallpaper qualities
>>67620354
>Why was Lois in Africa?
She was interviewing a terrorist with Jimmy Olsen (who got fucking killed shortly into it).
>Why was Luthor's men in Africa?
Lex staged the whole meet-up and had his men infiltrate the group to create havoc.
>Why did Luthor set up Superman with weird bullets?
He didn't, Lois found the bullets which eventually led her to find Lex. Luthor did have his men cause mass panic and collateral damage to frame Superman, who he knew would be present to save Lois.
>How did Luthor know who Superman was?
Superman looks exactly like Clark Kent, who does not act any differently. Anyone could figure it out. Also, he's been surveilling all metahumans and probably has had Supes followed.
>How did Luthor know who Batman was?
Same deal, research and having a brain. I'd say he was less certain about this one, testing the waters by manipulating those cheques, but once they had desired effect with Bats he knew he had it.
>How did Luthor know that Kryptonian fingerprint readers were more primitive than human ones?
The ship was already heavily damaged, and Zod's cells were pretty well preserved. It's just a quick way to say 'he got access' like Spacey finding the Fortress in Superman Returns.
>>67620912
>>How did Diane know what Bruce hooked up to the server?
Wonder Woman is magic. She doesn't have to make sense.
>>How did she know he was setting it up so that her car was ready to leave on time?
See previous answer.
>>Why was Perry so intent that Clark write about football rather than the breaking news on national television?
Bosses don't like to be disobeyed.
>>Why did Superman have that crazy vision on the mountain?
Biblical Symbolism
>>Why did the Flash's warning have no importance to the story?
WB exces wanted foreshadowing for future movies.
>>Why did Superman use the Kryptonite spear instead of giving it to WonderWoman?
Heat of battle, split second decision.
>>Why did getting hit with a nuke from below send Doomsday crashing down to the planet?
Doomsday was still alive, the nuke just made him stronger. He went back to Earth willfully, not because of the explosion.
>>Why did Luthor send back the dozens of checks with messages on them, when it had no influence on Bruce wanting to kill Superman?
Crazy legless suicide bomber sent them back. Lex just knew about them because he was keeping tabs on Bats.
>>Why did Bruce say "He brought the war to us" when Superman spent the last two years doing absolutely no conquering even though he was considered unstoppable?
Blinded by fear, anger, and Luthor's manipulations.
>>Why was the scout ship completely barricaded but nobody cared about the terraforming ship, literally leaving it to be salvaged by the locals?
Politics.
>>Why didn't the government just ask for Superman's help exploring the scout ship?
Politics.
>>Why was it so easy for Batman to steal the Kryptonite?
>>Why would Lex send an armed escort with the Kryptonite when it was smuggled in secretly and wanted Batman to take it?
To both questions, Lex wanted Batman to have it, but didn't want Batman to know Lex wanted him to have it.
>>67620354
>How did Luthor know that there would be a way to defeat Superman in there?
He didn't, but he already had a way to defeat Superman trying to clear customs. He first heads to the library to learn shit, then applies what he's learned in the Genesis chamber to create Doomsday.
>Why did they give Luthor full access to the ship unmonitored and Zod's body and never question when he disappears inside for hours on end?
He's the head of the biggest tech company on the planet and a genius. He helped rebuilt Metropolis and is the only one who might be able to mount a defense against Supes if he goes bad.
>Why did Luthor try to smuggle the Kryptonite in when he was trying to get legal permission to bring it in at the same time?
Luthor was already conducting a smuggling operation. He tried to get the Kryptonite legally at first, but once that fell through resorted to his smuggling operation.
>Why did Batman know what Kryptonite was when he was persuing the White Portuguese?
He probably only knew it was important and came from the area where the World Engine collapsed, he associated that with something that could fight Supes.
>>67620354
>blatantly admitting he did not understand anything that happened in the movie
topkek
You didn't even bother to read one of the 100 other threads who asked the same stupid questions.
>>67620324
This film was for 120 or higher plebian
>>67620354
>Why did Superman care about someone beating up a human slave trader and a pedophile so much when he was getting flak for causing an international incident?
He didn't cause the international incident, he was framed. Superman even says he didn't kill anyone in Africa to Lois. Bats on the other hand is on the warpath.
>Why did Superman ignore the truck with rocket launchers and machine guns to chase after Batman?
Batman is the criminal vigilante, and Supes thought he would be in the wrong.
>How did Luthor know that Superman would show up to catch Lois?
He knows they fuck.
>How did Lois know to go get the spear?
She overheard them.
>Why was Wonder Woman trying to get the photo, when she would have never raised attention if she just never showed up.
Lex already had a file on her, she wanted that gone.
>When did Superman realize that Batman was Bruce Wayne?
Hearing him at the dinner talking to Alfred, also X-Ray vision.
>Why was Aquaman holding his breath underwater with his cheeks puffed up?
To look threatening.
>Why did Luthor want to kill Superman and Batman?
He has a problem with gods and father-figures, he distrusts Superman and wants him dead. Batman is a tool to make that happen.
>Why did Luthor make a giant mutant retard he had no means of controlling?
He wanted a Plan-B if Batman failed. He didn't realise he couldn't control it.
>How did Luthor know how to make a giant mutant retard?
He learned in the ship's library.
>Why didn't the robot recognize that Luthor wasn't Zod and was an intruder?
Fingerprint sensor, damaged ship.
>Why did they build a monument to Superman when the last scene in MoS has him threatening a general and saying the military can't do dick to stop him?
Probably Metropolis built it and not the military.
>>67620912
>How did Diane know what Bruce hooked up to the server?
She's tech-savvy and followed him, she figured out what he was up to.
>How did she know he was setting it up so that her car was ready to leave on time?
See above, and valet doesn't take that long.
>Why was Perry so intent that Clark write about football rather than the breaking news on national television?
Clark's a Z-list writer, Perry's not confident in him and football was selling papers at the time.
>Why did Superman have that crazy vision on the mountain?
He was trying to imagine what his father would tell him, to help him.
>Why did the Flash's warning have no importance to the story?
Set-up for the amazing DC Universe to come.
>Why did Superman use the Kryptonite spear instead of giving it to WonderWoman?
He had an opening, he'd rather risk his life than another's.
>Why did getting hit with a nuke from below send Doomsday crashing down to the planet?
It should have disintegrated him, obviously he's hardy enough to survive and the shockwave sent him down again.
>Why did Luthor send back the dozens of checks with messages on them, when it had no influence on Bruce wanting to kill Superman?
He thought they were having an influence - and they eventually did when he saw them.
>>67620912
>Why did Bruce say "He brought the war to us" when Superman spent the last two years doing absolutely no conquering even though he was considered unstoppable?
He did destroy a big chunk of Metropolis and almost got the world terraformed by his mere presence.
>Why was the scout ship completely barricaded but nobody cared about the terraforming ship, literally leaving it to be salvaged by the locals?
The World Engine was in ruins, nothing left but rocks (which turned out to be actually important).
>Why didn't the government just ask for Superman's help exploring the scout ship?
As the last movie indicated, they're not on speaking terms, really. Also, if they don't trust him, why would they give him access to a huge ship?
>Why was it so easy for Batman to steal the Kryptonite?
Deleted scenes.
>Why would Lex send an armed escort with the Kryptonite when it was smuggled in secretly and wanted Batman to take it?
He didn't want Batman to take it, but it ended up working to his advantage nonetheless.
Damn! A BvS thread per second
same will happen with Civil War when it come out
Wait so did lex know Bruce was batman? What was with the Bruce's checks not reaching that crippled cunt?
>>67622933
Lex had a shit ton of research on metahumans, stands to reason he would be in the know on b-man as well.
The checks reached him, but cripples just returned them.
>>67622549
>Why didn't you listen to random people online giving bullshit answers to problems the movie never addressed?
>How can you say this movie is bad when you aren't even trying to be in denial about it?
>>67623172
all your answers are literally answered within the movie, either that or your questions are jst to banal to begin with.
>>67623246
The questions aren't answered.
How and when did Luthor realize that Clark Kent was Superman?
That Bruce Wayne was Batman?
>>67622854
>Deleted scenes
>>67622816
>>67622445
>she's tech savvy but can't hack the files for reasons
>it's magic
Great answers.
>>67620284
>>67621991
Missed the part when Bruce woke up from it a second time?
>>67621991
>>67623468
Ambiguity was the point of the scene. Maybe it's a dream, maybe it's a legit message from the future. Maybe it's both because who knows how the fuck time travel works in this universe.
>>67623390
Yes. they are.
He knew who they were through the same way he knew who FLash, wonder woman etc were. Again, paying attention helps.
>>67620247
Luthor had his own weird God complex, his hint of having had an abusive father was meant to lead you to the conclusion that he hates what could be all-powerful without him in control. A Superman outside of his control is something he won't let stand, so he will have him brought down and killed.
If you're not a comics fan then there are far clearer interpretations of his in the funny books and other forms of media.
>>67623468
To wake up twice, you need to fall asleep twice.
See how that works? And don't give me that waking up in a dream shit.
He had a nightmare, woke up to Flash. Fell back asleep again.
Wakes up, thinks it maybe was a dream but he still feels his chest because Flash ACTUALLY touched it.
>>67623665
>why can't you just assume things the movie never showed
>the movie answers all your questions if you just pretend there are answers
This is why people hate DC fans. You just can't handle that your movie is shit or that there are even the slightest flaws.
>>67622479
lol
you are Zack Snyder lawyer?
>>67624189
i aint pretending anything, im hardly even a comics fan let alone a dc fan but the answers to all your questions were stated in the movie, it your own fault for not picking up on it.
>>67624278
lol
Language English not your first?
>>67622252
She could've investigated the cia mole and why he was found out, something to have genuine concerns about rather than a dumbass bullet.
>>67619922
You're not alone. It was a fucking mess the whole way through. It's so clear Snyder had no idea how he was going to put this script in film form.
After introducing wonder woman with those drums, I was disappointed that she didn't do the Xena ALALALALALA when she jumped at doomsday
This thread is low energy shitposting. Jesus Christ, how does /tv/ suck this bad at shitposting? It's not even funny anymore how bad you are at it.
The flash sequence wasn't a dream. It happened. Bruce woke up from his knightmare to the flash scene, and fainted. Evidence to prove it happened was that the papers and all were still scattered, which it wasn't like that before he dreamed. Please /tv/, for the sake of memes, if you are gonna shitpost, at least do it right.
>>67619956
oh look another dumb frog poster
>>67619922
> marvel fags are too braindead to follow plots
I bet you didn't like Prometheus either
>>67619922
watch it again and pay attention
>>67624556
Not at all. How did he know who Batman and Superman were? There were no Batman or Superman files, so don't pull that answer that was never addressed
>>67619922
>bombs a government building to frame superman as a bad guy for no actual reason but to induce chaos after talking about how he wants to be able to protect Earth from Superman
>next scene
>They immediately have it figured out on the news that it was just a bomb in the wheelchair
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
>>67624684
So he fainted for less than a second then was jarred awake by shock? That's dumb. If he fainted it shouldn't have been edited out. If he was awake it never should've shown him being asleep.
>>67620324
Boredfag confirmed. While one could argue some headcanon or read between the lines, there are signs of some upper-level ideas here, but the script and cinematography was awful. Basically, just the themes, treatsie, and half of the acting was good.
>>67619922
> Did anyone else get lost trying to follow the plot like me? I felt like an idiot because I had no clue what the sequence of the movie was supposed to be
lol, the plot was easy enough to follow, I guess you're just stupid
>>67624898
Not only that but I'm pretty sure the chair had lexcorps written on it. Nearly everyone but Clark and Lois are ace journalists and figure shit out in a few minutes what takes them nearly a month in movie time.
>>67624770
DING DING DING
>>67624977
That's still just ass writing
I hate Superman but he said his moms name is the same as my moms name I guess that means I don't plunge this retarded spear I made into him after all this time I spent planning this murder, we're friends now
>>67623468
>paper still flying around the room when he "wakes up" a second time
>>67625028
What does it mean?
>>67625035
Everything in the movie is shit writing. Half of it is either hammered to death, the rest is unexplained, or unresolved.
>>67625113
Like Ahab, Bruce has an obsession with hunting Supes for revenge that eventually will destroy him.
>>67625056
AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA
>>67619922
It was pretty simple bro. Got any questions? I think I got all of it myself.
>>67625163
Bravo Snyder
>>67625289
Bruce even has a whaling harpoon/spear
>>67620354
Im a retard or 12 years old : The post.
>>67625093
>mfw the I realized the spear was longinus
Kino.
>>67625421
Batkino v Superkino Dawn of Kinography.
>>67625355
Is Moby Dick's mom named Martha too?
>>67625498
It's not in the book but it very clearly is if you just stop being a Hemmingway drone and think about it
>>67625355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kH0Bag0akc
>>67625498
Clearly not the point. It's referring to Bruce's blind obsession with attempting to slay a being beyond his comprehension at all cost.
Only when Bruce realizes that Superman is slave to the same experience as him, and sees humanity within the Clark, Bruce is finally returned to sanity.
Bravo Synder.
>>67621881
nicely done anon, I understood it similarly but would not be able to articulate it as well as you did if someone asked me.
by the way went to see it again yesterday and have to say I definitely enjoyed it more the second time around. im convinced the ultimate edition will make the movie even better.
>>67621881
Lex also outright sates how he feels impotent in the face of Superman's existence, a twist on the comic Lex who hates what Superman's existence means for the rest of humanity that can never match him. And as you mentioned, he projects that feeling of inadequacy on Superman as well, seeking to destroy him in a way he wanted to destroy his father for his sins.
>>67625574
Now that we're at it, what about Alexander Magnus' Gordian Knot stuff?
I also remember the crippled dude cutting a rope with a knife. My take is that this guy was Luthor's blade to cut the knot of how to turn everyone against Superman and get access to the Kryptonite. Thoughts?
>>67625847
Well his main goal was to turn Bruce against Clark with the explosion. Which is why he went out of his way to use his ex employee, and play on the "you let your family die" aspect. To further reinforce his paranoia about Superman as a threat, and he made it personal for Bruce. He also wanted Batman to steal the Kryptonite and to use it to kill Superman. He outright states this, that he was hoping Man will kill God. Either outcome would have worked for him when it comes to the fight, either he "bends" god to his will by forcing him to kill Batman, or humanity perseveres and kills god.
Doomsday Zod was plan B, if man won't do it, then the Devil will.
>Granny's Peach Tea
>>67626114
That scene was great.
>Take a bucket of piss and call it Granny's Peach Tea. Take a weapon of assasination and call it deterrence, you won't fool me.
That piss is Lex mocking her, and she realizes that he actually took her words literally, and he plans to bomb the place as a "method of deterrence" to turn everyone against Superman. The scene is edited masterfully, more tense than anything Nolan could've imagined in a fever dream. There's this quick cut to Luthor's empty seat, the Senator's terrified face as she realizes what's unfolding, and finally Superman sensing something is wrong but not being able to react quick enough,
It's great because if you've been paying attention you realize there's a bomb at the same time as the Senator does. Hitchcock tension 101, bomb under the dining room table.
>>67622003
>patricians
>watching capeshit
>>67626316
>capeshit
This isn't GotG, or Antman. I'm sorry my good sir, but BvS is capekino.
>>67626210
>not realizing there is a bomb in the new wheelchair the second Lex gives it to the cripple
>>67625355
Damn...
>>67625355
It's also Zeus' thunderbolt, Longinus, and a dragon slayer's lance.
i lik soperman
>>67626210
KINO
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>>67619922
I'm sorry but you're probably a fucking moron if you couldn't follow this movie.
>>67628189
>>67626210
>>67625355
>>67624898
>>67622379
>>67619922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxV99PYX37c&feature=youtu.be
It was actually rather boring. Basically because of the editing, like everyone says. There are scenes that fail to invest you emotionally because they are so short...it's like Snyder was like "yeah kids, i know you don't care for that scene so we've just cut it short" but then even the fight scenes lose at least half of the edge they should have. The "Do you bleed" moment feels just...ok. And that's when you realise that the trailer had all the best scenes edited.
So yeah they've shown too much in the trailer. Doomsday didn't feel like it, as powerful as he was...i wish they would have named it something else completely.
Lex Luthor was horrible, as much as Eisenberg tried to play with it. But it almost felt like they wanted a new Joker type of character and they just decided right after the writing that finally maybe it should be Lex Luthor.
Wonder Woman wasn't horrible but she barely speaks.
The introduction of the other members of the Justice League was kinda pathetic. The "am i too soon?" Flash joke was rather disturbing and awkward. DC, don't try jokes just to make jokes. Stay dark, it seems to suit you best.
>>67619922
>>67628211
Haha, stop spamming this, only reveals your butthurt and pathetic obsession.
>what the sequence of the movie was supposed to be
what does that even mean?
how many sequences was there?
did you see the choose your own adventure version and couldn't decide what order to watch it in?
>>67621048
>>67621055
>>67621165
Dr Pepper tie in implies he dedicates time to figuring Superman out. With how easy everyone complains Clarks disguise is, I don't understand why a genius like Lex couldn't figure it out. I'm more perplexed by why he doesn't tell anyone else.
>>67620140
Nice RLM regurgitation faggot
>>67628500
>The "am i too soon?" Flash joke was rather disturbing and awkward
That wasn't a joke...? Maybe you're so used to watching Marvel movies that you think ordinary dialogue is supposed to be one liners?
>>67620209
>calling them greentexts and not meme arrows.
>>67619922
>getting lost when watching bvs
Are you an idiot? The plot was easy as shit
>>67621732
> batman stopped from getting his only weapon against kryptonians
> the target of his weapon stops him
> the target is superman
> the movie is about batman vs superman
Slam your dick in a door if you can't follow this. The generations that follow will thank you.
>>67625035
Retarded complaint family. Batman was obsessed that some alien fuckwad hero could potentially turn and kill millions like his old suit implied, but realized Superman is human when he cried about his mommy or something.
>didn't pick up the captain ahab/extended hunter theme
>implying i know anything about moby dick aside from cultural references throughout media about some guy hunting some whale
wonder what else is in there
>>67628851
it helps to see all actions of lex/batman/superman through the perspective of power
There was more urine than I expected, but less than I wanted.
Also, not even one, "STATELY WAYNE MANOR" establishing shots.
>>67620293
how DARE you speak about your wife like that
>>67625535
>moby dick
>hemingway
pls
>>67630925
A lot, it makes this universe far more immersive and relatable than the MCU.
>>67620354
>Why is a journalist covering a story in a place?
>this is the kind of questions that pop up in the heads of BvS "critics"
Kek
>>67628983
Not that anon, but the line is delivered like it's meant to illicit a laugh.
It's okay, many of the funny moments in the movie fell flat.
>>67631023
>Also, not even one, "STATELY WAYNE MANOR"
I hope you're joking.
>>67631592
Maybe they'll make up for it with
>MEANWHILE, AT THE LEGION OF DOOM
In the Justice League movie.
>>67631622
what?
There were shots of Wayne Manor before and after it burned down. There was a whole scene inside it.
>>67631661
>no hammy narrator
It's shit.
I felt the knightmares were silly. The justice league cameos were so forced. Batman having visions along with The Flash showing up really ruined the 1st half.
Wonder Woman had no reason to be in the film .
They wanted to accomplish many things with this film which takes away from the main point of the film which was Batman vs. Superman.
I thought Lex sucked and just really threw off the vibe overall. Superman still needs more exposition too.
>>67631758
>knightmares
I see what you did there
>>67620092
>>67621991
>all these fucking casuals not knowing that the Speed Force is literally a cheap 'get away with anything' clause in DC Comics
It could have been a dream or could have been real but The Flash himself wasn't a dream
>>67619922
Snyder is a terrible storyteller, pretty pictures and some nice scenes but doesn't know how to put them together
(I posted this in other of the 2314 threads about this shitty movie)
>>67619922
Snyder films scenes that will look cool in a trailer and then stitches them together in an approximation of a storyline. He's still a music video director at heart.
>>67621331
Did you even watch the movie?
>>67620092
>This is not a dream... not a dream.
>We are using your brain's electrical system as a receiver.
>We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference.
>You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.
>We are transmitting from the year one, nine, nine, nine.
>You are receiving this broadcast in order to alter the events you are seeing.
>Our technology has not developed a transmitter strong enough to reach your conscious state of awareness, but this is not a dream.
>You are seeing what is actually occurring for the purpose of causality violation.
