So what's the verdict on Daredevil season 2?
Solid first four episodes.
Punisher arc was GOAT
Elektra's arc was less interesting but still decent
Overall a solid 8/10 season
Karen and Foggy are still shit
I hope Fisk kills one of them in S3
Karens piece for the bulletin was so shit holy fuck. sounds like it was written by a retarded 14 year old emo on fanfiction.net
I was happy to see fisk again dude made this season great. also happy they didnt kill of punisher and made him brutal
over all its a good watch
magic, ninjas, magic ninjas. Disconnected Punisher story that didnt really fit with the ninjas or other silliness
once the punisher arc was over it rapidly went downhill, with no major villain other then zombie ninja it got really boring watching him fight wave after wave of faceless ninjas
i liked the actress that played elektra alot more then i thought i would, and id rather watch a punisher show then luke cage...
A real mixed bag. Some super great shit from
Punisher and Fisk, some good stuff from Elektra, some stupid shit that could have been silly fun but wasn't from ninja's and their zombie children and unexplained giant holes.
>>67247815
Yes.
BRACKU SKYU
>>67248277
Her whole character is stupid. First she was a secretary doing a paralegal job and then she becomes a journalist just because she knew Punisher's story wtf
extremely uncomfy
made me seriously sad that their friend group just crumbled when all Matt had to do was explain himself succinctly
all in the name of advancing the plot though I guess
>>67247815
Punisher was top notch.
Elektra was ok actually, better than I expected, she played the psycho ex well.
Karen was meh, her only purpose was to humanize Frank and she did that pretty well otherwise she wasn't that great.
Wilson Fisk was unexpectedly awesome.
Daredevil himself got more depth (I somehow like the part where he did the cross before finally agreeing that Frank should kill, like the good Catholic he is)
Foggy should burn in hell. After being doused in acid. That God he became irrelevant after getting shot (and should stay that way now that he's riding solo).
All in all awesome season, better than 1st by a bit. Could've been flawless if not for Foggy.
>>67248954
That catholic cross was a great little touch. Same thing with Punisher calling all the women ma'am.
>>67248954
this is pasta
Foggy / Karen / ninjas / elektra were an unwatchable mess. And then the "creepy kids" and MM's teacher from the first season were not only unwatchable but made me question the future of all this. The "endgame" is magic and ninjas and oh look some old black nurse that was in clerks 2 and Kids. This is BULLSHIT
>>67248185
All this except Karen started to do stuff and Foggy is okay. He's like a dorky friend I wish I had.
>>67249127
You want a whiny friend that complains about the important shit you do because you're spending less time with him?
>>67247815
First four episodes were fantastic. I've heard it goes downhill a bit but I've yet to see for myself.
>>67249334
It goes downhill for a couple of episodes but it picks itself up after episode 8. Then it just keeps getting better.
>gritty crime drama involving vigilante justice and the failures and limitations of our justice system
>SUDDENLY NINJAS
The biggest issue was the lack of any good villain.
Clancy Brown isn't a villain till the last episode and The Hands plan is vague and were not even sure Black Sky is even a real thing.
Based Frank carrys the season though, and the little we get of Fisk was great.
>>67247815
The Punisher needs his own solo series.
I want a fucking Punisher standalone TV show like this.
>>67249476
this, there was no fucking villain
we just skipped around from YAKUHZAHHH to THE HAND to ZOMBIE to NOBU to BLACKSMITH to OH BTW BLACKSMITH IS FRANKS CO to ELEKTRA YOU ARE BRAKU SKYU to a shitty rooftop fight
>dozen ninjas on the roof
>frank doesn't just mow them down with the minigun
>>67247815
episodes 1-9 9/10
episodes 10-13 7/10
overall 8/10
>>67249476
i liked frank as "the villain"
that shit ended way too early desu
also when superheroes fight each other you don't know who is gonna win unlike when they fight bad guy of the series/movie
>>67248277
She's going to get fired for that article and she's going to have to turn herself out to make ends meet. Though it's her boss's fault for encouraging her to write an article after drinking a bottle of scotch.
That's how Fisk gets her.
>>67249409
Yes, fucking seriously this.
Even in the end, when Matt is finally ready to kill, Punisher shows up, kills those 4 ninjas, he was so unfitting there, like even his face conveyed "what the fuck, ninjas?".
Anyway, yes the Punisher was GOAT, but I didn't like that this season was his origin story, I could had endured less long stares and exposition with him and more Frankin'.
I totally thought the story of this season will be Frank vs Daredevil vs Fisk with some ninja filler, but it became ninja stuff with Punisher and Fisk filler, which is pretty pretty bad because those parts were the best.
Still solid 7/10, but they need better pacing, less useless exposition and random pointless ninja fights.
Wait why did they need the kid's blood. It never explained that.
Best scene of the season is when Fisk head slams Daredevil into the table and totally scares the living shit out of him.
punisher looked so rad at the end in full gear
and he didn't see matt without the mask on did he? the trailers all showed punisher ripping his mask off.
>>67249409
Arrow did the same shit. I mean I know it's part of the "comics lore" or whatever but they gotta rein this shit in if they are going to go for it.
>>67247815
Did anyone get the feeling that Matt's use of the chains in ep3 was a bit of testing to see how a potential Ghost Rider series would play visually?
The chain techniques were awesome!
Fisk and Punisher were great. They're enough to give this season a try.
Everythig else was just tolerable.
>>67249816
no.
>>67249643
>30+ ninjas on the roof when DD and elektra enter
>suddenly theres like 12 at most
>>67249770
He had a 30+ minute conversation with Daredevil. He knows his voice and his height and skin color and nose shape and teeth shape. MM sounds the exact same, has the same nose/mouth/skin color
Isn't Fisk Kingpin and doesn't Punisher kill Kingpin?
>>67249853
yea but its comics so
>>67249643
I was waiting for that too. It was obvious he was gonna show up but damn he should killed em all.
>>67249770
>he didn't see matt without the mask on did he?
Of course he did, he was watching him through a sniper scope and had a look of realization on his face.
>Matt and Elektra promising to run away from everything before the decisive battle
Jesus, that last episode was so cringely obvious. Even if you didnt know their backstory in comics you could clearly seethe bitch would die after that.
>>67249770
He doesn't give a fuck. And in the trial scene where Matt was questioning him on the stand you can see Frank doing the "shit, I know that voice" face. So he probably knows but it doesn't matter to him.
>>67249910
he's supposed to be a trained military man. It doesnt fit. Something being a "comic or graphic novel" doesnt protect against poor writing. This would never have worked in Watchmen
>>67249853
He didn't know who he was from that though. He didn't really care who he was so wasn't trying to guess his identity.
I liked it but I hate Foggy, Karen and Elektra.
so no more ninjas right
>>67249960
matt had his back turned on him the whole time and when they showed the scope it was too dark to see matt
>>67250014
this senpai
ninjas were the worst part of this season
>>67249082
>The "endgame" is magic
It's ~~~~MARVELS~~~~~ Daredevil
It's the same city where The Avengers happened. The same universe with Thor and the Hulk
>>67249964
>He didn't predict that she was going to die when it was revealed that the ninjas wanted her to be their master and they could bring themselves back from the dead.
Anything with The Punisher was gold. Elektra was meh.
Miles ahead of Jessica Jones Season One, almost as good as Daredevil Season One.
>>67250092
Marvel != shit tier AOS-tier magik. And first of all, the Hulk wasn't a byproduct of magik.
Why was the hand draining blood into an urn?
>the final scene
NINJAS CONFIRMED
FOREVER
This season seemed heavily inspired by Arrow.
Does anyone else watch comic books on youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUJqTlbq9k
>next season won't be a full out war between frank and fisk in the middle of winter
>it'll just be more ninjas and more elektra
>>67250227
The Hand has always been a major Daredevil element. Arrow was Batman on a budget. This season was heavily inspired by Daredevil comics, especially the ones involving Punisher and the Hand.
So is Foggy and Jess Jones co-workers now?
>>67250306
>The Hand has always been a major Daredevil element.
Its majorly lame in live action TV. Its just bad and outdated like hydra / shield
Am I the only one who LOVED Elektra? (Not as good as punisher of course) That actress did great as Elektra, I'll agree the ninja filler got annoying. Fisk suprise was amazing, Karen plot was okay, (she was better than Season 1) foggy was shit as usual.
Action was amazing story was a notch below season 1. Charectors and pacing Where better.
Solid 8/10.
>>67249643
>Frank leaves his burning house, carrying the goddamn minigun in the open
I'm on Episode 12 and good god what the fuck is happening in the second half.
>>67250482
Whats going to happen? Someone call the cops on him?
>>67250481
I though Elektra was really good, character, actress, accent, all of it. Like you said not close to based Frank, but still good.
The only thing i disliked about her was she took away from based Frank, and introduced the ninjas, which were shitty
The ninjas should've been like Batman Begins League of Assassins, basically still ninjas but with guns and tactical gear. They can keep the sword but I see no reason they're still using bows and arrows and shurikens.
But hey, if they're packing heat the season would've been pretty short.
>>67250481
You're not allowed to like female characters on /tv/.
>>67250308
That's right! We here at marvel know how much you guys LOVED foggy! So now he will appear not only k. Daredevil but in Jessica jones as well!!
>>67250056
>>67250014
>Implying it won't turn into Arrow 2.0
expect ninjas and magic bullshit for the next seasons
>>67251126
This season couldn't decide between gritty realism or gritty magic/ninja/ancient legend story. They need to commit to one. I'm okay witht the magic bullshit if it's done correctly. For gods sake, daredevil is going to eventually team up with a magical king fu master.....
>all these plebs hating foggy and or karen
>>67251210
DD literally got his own ninja weapon at the end, the grappling hook double nightstick thing
>>67249750
The same reason they needed the hole.
MattXXXReanimatedEle OTP
FoggyXXXLawyerlady OTP
KarenXXXTHE BULLETINOTP
why do people hate Karen or Foggy this season? I'm curious as to the exact reasons or things they did during this season only
>>67247815
Mixed, too much shit on it's plate, nothing gets really worked to it's full potential, and Matt's entire arc feels unnatural and rushed.
Punisher was great tho.
Fights were fucking amazing also.
>>67250481
>Karen
>good ever
>>67251509
terrible acting / writing, couldn't even handle filler roles
>>67251509
Karen's story arc was actually pretty good. But foggys constant whining was ridiculous. His problems with matts alter ego was acceptable when he first learned about it in season 1. But it just feels drawn out at this point.
>>67249203
Better than no friends, and besides-Foggy wanted Matt to focus on their firm and not ninjas. It was bad luck for Elektra to show up again.
>>67251228
Preach
>>67251613
i dont know, season 1 he was slightly annoying but this season Matt was really the one that kind of failed Foggy in the trial a bunch of times without giving a succinct explanation. From the viewer's POV Matt did nothing wrong but he never really told Foggy that so it's understandable that he's angry.
>>67251591
i thought both were pretty in line with the rest of the season desu
>>67251613
Drawn out? Did we watch the same show? He's pissed off because Matt's alter ego is causing problems with the law firm that HE set up with him. To make matters worse, Matt pressures Foggy into accepting the Castle case and then is never there, leaving Foggy to do all the work.
I'd be pissed too.
>you like younger?
>i got as young as 12
>>67251509
Karen was ok, she fleshed out Frank and is surprisingly not a one dimensional character. People forget she's still recovering from killing Wesley. She really sympathizes with Frank because she really wants to believe that it was ok to kill Wesley, that sometimes criminals should be put down. But also that people like Frank (and her) can be saved. Her mistake was thinking Frank felt guilt in his actions. What he did to the colonel proved to her he doesn't feel anything.
Foggy is a piece of shit, though. Unlike Karen, he knows what Matt actually does in his off time so he has no excuse to whine and act like a cunt. I mean when your friend, who spends his time beating dangerous criminals to a pulp, tells you he's REALLY busy, you gotta take his word for it. There are more important shit than Frank Castle's trial and although Matt could've gone clear with Foggy since the beginning, Foggy should've known better than to break a hissy fit whenever Matt is out there doing good for the city.
>"Yeah Foggy, a death cult of ninjas are gonna destroy this city, this same city where aliens invaded a fey years ago. Who's gonna stop them if not me? Definitely not your fat ass. But sure, lets put a pin on it and focus on helping you do your job and keeping a psycho off prison."
In the end although Karen ended up being a complex character, Foggy ended up being a selfish whiny crybaby who can't see more than his own petty issues.
>>67251969
>In the end although Karen ended up being a complex character
good joke
>that final voice over of karen's article
yikes
>>67251613
Foggy was completely justified in doing what he did. Matt hung him out to dry
>>67251969
>There are more important shit than Frank Castle's trial
To be fair thought, Matt was the one who wanted to represent Castle, and defending a serial killer really is a serious point in a lawyer's career.
>>67252220
Foresight's 20/20, poor Matt didn't know shit would've hit the fan so hard.
Saving the city >>> Saving Frank
>>67250149
>Anything with The Punisher was gold.
That moment when the store owner tries to sell him kiddy porn. With as violent as some of the scenes were I was shocked they cut away during that part. I honestly expected something like from the comics.
>>67252509
Which comic was that from? Is that an Ellis one?
>>67252509
he should have killed them
Is Karen still top notch waifu material?
>>67252810
Oh it's coming.
The rape scene was a little over the top. Most of the people walked out of the theater by that point. All in all I wouldn't say it's worth the effort.
>>67252870
borrring
>>67252870
>>67252922
Worst Punisher of all time.
>>67248277
I hate karen, i hope she gets killed off in the next season
>>67252958
>>67251969
>Justifying Matt's shitty handling of the entire Castle case
>Foggy ended up being a selfish whiny crybaby who can't see more than his own petty issues.
What is wrong with you?
Incredible season, really easy to predict mostly, but aside from that, very good. Loved the creepy hand shit, and the fight scenes were unbelievable, especially the one with the chain and the bikers.
>>67248277
>I was happy to see fisk again dude made this season great
indeed. D'Onofrio kills it. he's awesome in anything
I was disappointed in the final episode, I really expected to see Punisher go to town on the Hand
>>67249643
fuckin A, I was waiting for it and just never happened
>>67253007
Meh, kind of lame. I prefer live action P to this
>it's a people want shows to involve namless goons being punched in the dark for multiple seasons thread
It's a comic book, ninjas and magic make sense.
>Frank becomes the punisher
>gets his minigun
>literally set it up so there are an unbeatable amount of ninja mooks that oh my god matt and elektra cant beat no way there are too many
>perfectly set up for some heavy firepower from Frank
>lol jk we beat them anyways xD
>>67249643
I fucking know right. I was hoping for that too.
>>67249082
>some old black nurse that was in clerks 2
You're out of your fucking mind
grow the fuck up kid
>>67249770
>>67249960
>>67250044
He knew who he was already, he realized that it's Matt when he started questioning him on trial
Court room scene was trash until Punisher throws the case purposefully.
That scene was very fitting.
I was worried they were going to try some stupid redemption arc during the trial where he looks nervous before you understand the offer he's been made.
>>67253149
That was so disappointing. He finally shows up just to snipe 2-3 guys and that's it.
>>67253007
I actually liked that. Not really all that into comics but that was cool!
>>67250056
They need to go away until Iron Fist, then they'd actually make sense, and not interrupt my goddamn Frank
>>67253007
>I'd be seeing them again in 20 years
Jesus Christ man.
>>67249643
I was hoping for this so bad.
Punisher was close to fucking perfect. I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't just keep going with the get-up he had this season though, maybe with some more tacticool stuff and held off with the skull and duster 'till later.
Like others have already mentioned, I would've preferred more Fisk and more Franking instead of the ninjas.
>>67252591
>Is that an Ellis one?
Yeah, took me a sec to find the right number but it's The Punisher Max v1 44
>>67249964
> Mfw when electra will probably be resurrected as an evil bitch and will never run away with matt, so he'll have settle for Bland.
What else can they do with the Punisher as a character? I mean any character development would have to involve him feeling guilty for all the killings he's doing, but that instantly makes him not "the Punisher" and ruins his entire character. Is he just going to keep showing up for short periods of time throughout the series now when the script needs him to?
>>67253588
This is why a Punisher series wouldn't work. He's a force of nature, not a character. 13 hour long episodes of him fulfilling revenge fantasies would get boring fast. He works well on small concentrated doses, like the prison hallway scene. Jesus that scene was so good.
>>67251228
Anon, if you have that shit of a taste, you should kill yourself, or at the very least stop posting.
>>67247815
Low points were about the same as S1. High points were as good as action shows on TV get. Probably the best action show ever made.
>>67251613
Karen's story arc was good, but that doesn't make the character good. She's boring, bland, and has zero chemistry even with someone who she supposedly lusts after. Not sure if it's just a bad actress or poor writing or directing. I dunno.
>>67248454
But then Frank showed up again and got betrayed by Kingpin and all was well with the world. They should have kept Elektra dead though, at least for a few seasons.
agents of shield on suicide watch
the only good thing to come out of this season is the inevitable Frank standalone show.
>>67249082
>Foggy / Karen / ninjas / elektra were an unwatchable mess.
Except not really, the fight scenes picked up quite a bit. Morons like you tend to forget about S1 and how almost nothing happened for 5 episodes.
>>67253786
This. Elektra and Matt has such good chemistry on the other hand.
>>67252838
She still isn't
>>67253693
I think it could easily work with an episodic format, just don't have an exposition heavy story, just Frank going down the goons.
It should have a more morbid style, maybe not the best example but something close to Deadpool, I'm not meaning 4th wall breakings and wacky pop-culture references, but showing actually fucked up shit.
>>67247815
6/10 season, still the best live-action superhero shit going.
>>67253786
>Karen's story arc was good
You thought so? It didn't stand out at all,.
>>67253856
Karen had good chemistry with Frank though.
ninjas got boring quickly
also loses points for not being 10 straight hours of frank beating the shit out of people
>>67249643
>why doesn't he pick up the thing that's supposed to be mounted on a helicopter and mow them down
He's just some strong marine dude not the fucking terminator
why do we need two threads dedicated to this capeshit?
>>67249742
>Even in the end, when Matt is finally ready to kill
He did kill, though. Go rewatch the episode.
>>67249770
He didn't give a shit who Matt was.
>>67253972
This is kino nigger.
>>67249853
>MM sounds the exact same, has the same nose/mouth/skin color
You don't know that.
>that fucking end speech by punisher on ep 4, about his child
making me fucking get teary eyed jesus christ, shows that capeshit can be good with the right stuff
>>67253904
>Karen's story arc was good
I guess it's because ti goes hand in hand with Frank's story arc.
>>67253899
As much as I'd love to see Frank interrogates a brutal sex slaver by tying him around a tree with his own intestines while awake, I'm afraid even a Punisher series would need to tone down the brutal Marvel Max comics.
>it's a karen digging through files/finding out shit the audience already knows scene
>>67253211
He knew he was a defense attorney who defended criminals, he didn't know it was DD.
>>67247815
It was cool, solid 9/10 secondary characters are awesome specially the punisher,and Karen. The whole Why are you a vigilante? was good, that's what a lot of friends would ask to these super heroes. Also we witness DD getting some good pussy in a boxing ring, his father must be absolutely proud.
The worst was elektra, I didn't like the actress nor the character.
And finally, What did DD saved New York from??
In S01 was clear he was dealing with fisk moving all the mob groups. but this season? it stats with the punisher then DD starts fighting a fight he doesn't want to fight and he has a showdown with the yakuza and they obtained the "Black Sky", so really DD didn't do nothing, also Fisk is getting even more powerful.
>>67249082
>I don't know who Rosario Dawson is
Get out of my board.
>>67249860
No,Mattdoes.
>>67247815
Does anyone know if these "Undead" ninjas were featured in the comic before the Court Of Owls? because the Court Of Owls uses the same shit, best of the best warrior are returned to life as ninjas.
>>67249965
I think so, he pretty much stated he doesn't give a shit. If he wanted to find out, he would have removed his mask.
He doesn't care why he wears the mask.
>>67248110
absolutely DD Season 2 started with a Bang (Literary). Then we witness some of the most useless justice system and finally a conspiracy.
>>67254038
god damn anon so true, every time it happens you're just thinking who ACTUALLY cares about this shit? is it just there to fill time or, it's never even -that- usefull, christ get rid of her and the guy
>>67250149
It was miles ahead of DD season 1, you seem to forget how horribly it dragged along the second half and it ended in a wet fart.
>>67248722
she becaume a journalist because she loves to dig for the truth and anwers, she's been doing that since S01 and she discovered Fisk's mother.
>>67254031
>I guess it's because ti goes hand in hand with Frank's story arc.
Exactly. It's nothing special on its own, but as a part of frank's arc is pretty good.
>>67250227
Maybe you should stop watching that tripe and start reading some 80's DD comics.
>>67250481
No, and I found Foggy much more tolerable this season around. He was an insufferable cunt in S1.
>>67250824
>The ninjas should've been like Batman Begins League of Assassins, basically still ninjas but with guns and tactical gear.
But that's what they fucking were, they had guns in every other scene. Stop shitposting while watching the show and just watch it.
>>67248954
the fucking suit is that made this season awesome, I fucking hated that they only featured in the last episode in season one, I'm not saying that he start with the full suit, but at least the last 3 episodes would have been nice, for which I say the series should have been called: "Tha man without Fear" and not DD.
>>67251705
It's true, they were almost bankrupt due to Matt fucking around in spandex.
>worried Jon Bernthal would be shit as the Punisher
>he was far and away the best part of the show
what a pleasant surprise
>>67254053
>this season?
General fuckery and decaying faith in the police by not taking the credit of catching Frank.
>>67249769
yes the DD/Kingpin was nice.
>>67251825
The second he said 12 I squeaked like a little mangirl. There's nothing Frank hates more than pedophiles, maybe italian pedophiles.
Too bad they didn't show him killing the guy with the bat.
By the way, why did they focus entirely on the irish this season? Frank has had some fights with the irish (mainly in Garth Ennis books, an irish writer) but his focus was almost mainly on italian mobsters.
Could you beat this little girl in a fist fight?
>>67249964
that was awful, aboslutly awful. I was like wtf matt, I thought you like blonde white skin, not brunettes, now you will run away with this absolutly killing machine?
I can't believe these shitters aren't going to give Frank his own show.
You could edit out all the Daredevil from Daredevil season 2 and you'd be left with something way better
It'd benefit from being leaner too as the series is too long, it needs to be muscular and dense, like Frank.
>>67252591
Garth Ennis, not Ellis. Warren Ellis is the guy who wrote Transmetropolitan. They're good chums.
>>67253904
>You thought so? It didn't stand out at all
See >>67254174
Her storyarc isn't as obvious and requies the vewer to pay attention but it's there. She serves as a foil to frank in a sense. Both a killers, and it is the reason why karen can empathize with him. But while frank accepts what he is and where he stands and doesnt regret it, karen still tries to find a compromize between her actions and society's norms. Remember that argument she had with matt about how 'maybe the punisher did nothing wrong'? That was part of that arc. She's bargaining with matt, who represents 'the good' to prove to herself that she's still good even thouh she's done the most despicable thing by general standards.
Her arc isn't done yet, and i think we'll see more of it in the next season.
>NEW THEORIES SHED LIGHT ON LOST CITY
>>67254412
They are doing the punisher show though
>>67254439
What could this mean?
>It's a stick shows up at the last second to kill the bad guys after everyone's done fighting episode
>>67250176
The continuity should be connected anyway.
I'm sure that the daredevil comics contain the occasional magic/super tech opponent. The guy's a fucking blind ninja who refuses to kill with some super/way above human level physical capabilities and Not-Sonar.
>>67253693
>This is why a Punisher series wouldn't work. He's a force of nature, not a character. 13 hour long episodes of him fulfilling revenge fantasies would get boring fast.
Punisher MAX went on for 70 issues or so, and never did it feel boring or tedious. Ennis didn't focus on giving Frank an arc, he never changes his motivations or methods. Instead, he focused on giving him interesting villains and stories involving the people around him. This also happened in his Marvel Knights run, where he shared an apartment building with some regular folks, who kept getting dragged into his shenanigans.
So you're right about Frank being unable to feel guilt or remorse or to change in any way, that's not how you handle the character. You give him interesting people to shoot at, like pic related or motherfucking barracuda.
>>67253786
She's anex-pornstar, she's supposed to be dead inside.
>>67254435
>Remember that argument she had with matt about how 'maybe the punisher did nothing wrong'?
I believe so. Her reluctance when Matt suggests law school and her disillusionment with the justice process plays a part in this. I don't really think you need to pay too close attention, it's readily obvious in the dialogue.
>>67253924
I think Frank realized that. But then the mess at the diner happened and it became clear he couldn't drag anyone else into his world, or whatever.
>>67253972
Because it is that good, mr. backseat janitor.
>>67254352
>pawn shop scumbag is most obvious skeevy new york jew rat stereotype committed to film
>swastika tattoo
I'm confused
>>67254716
Wait. For real?
>>67249643
>"how many"
>"too many to count"
>DD and Elektra get to the rooftop and there are only like 8 ninjas
>Punisher shows up at the very end and kills 3 of them
It was a perfect opportunity for him to use that sweet arsenal he found in the shed to mow down a few dozen ninjas and turn the tide in favor of DD and Elektra, but I guess they ran out of budget or something.
>>67254458
Not according to the head of the company they aren't.
>>67254229
The all black suit with the tied up mask looked pretty neat. The proper DD suit looked goofy as fuck in the S1 finale, specially the mask, but it seems they made some adjustments before this season began.
Liked:
Elektra - trouble making, stirring shit and getting DD in trouble, pretty sexy - pretty well acted
Frank - Taking out the Irish, calling out DD on his ineffective morality, prison scene, actually going toe to toe with DD and beating him, actually well acted family sob story scene - well acted
Fisk - Rattling MM and setting up for the third season, taking control of the prison, slapping Castle around - well acted
Disliked:
Ninjas - seems like almost every fight after the first few eps was just waves of ninjas and silly ninja slap fighting... Spinning kicks are lame as fuck.
Matt Murdoch/Daredevil - boohoo killing people is wrong so I'm just going to endlessly slap these horrible horrible ninjas who torture and mutilate people and them leave them to just get right back on with it. Boohoo have faith in the system despite it being clear that even taking down Fisk legally didn't do a damn thing
He comes around a little at the end and then ruins it with the soppiest 'ooh electra i wuv you' gay shit
Karen - the character helped flesh out Frank a lot and gave him a lot of exposition but I just don't like her as a character/actress (though she is a babe). She's a becoming a bit of a mary sue. She stumbles into the law firm and basically becomes a lawyer overnight. Then she stumbles into a respected newspaper and is just like 'lol I'm an investigative reporter now here's my written-by-a-14-year-old-english-student article'. Spent half the season stick her nose into extremely dangerous situations and then blubbering when she repeatedly almost gets killed.
Foggy - just fuck off fat man. Could be a great character but they just have him there to nag nag nag nag.
Also, why does Matt Murdoch have such a hard time believing in an ancient evil society when his mentor Stick tells him even though he lives in a universe where a giant green hulk and an Asgaurdian demi-god fought a giant army of inter-dimensional space aliens?
>>67252464
It would help if Matt would at least try to explain what the fuck he was doing instead of just being a bitch. Foggy sucks but was 100% in the right in calling Matt on his bullshit. He pushes to represent Castle and is never fucking there, leaving Foggy out to dry which could've have potentially destroyed not only their firm but their careers. Matt was doing important shit as DD but never took the time to actually tell the people who depend on him what the fuck it was he was doing. All they saw was him never being there and when he did show up he was late, tired and beaten to shit.
>>67254412
>You could edit out all the Daredevil from Daredevil season 2 and you'd be left with something way better
Fuck you, that chainwhip scene was based as fuck. Tip-top capeshit tbqh.
>>67254466
Wakanda?
>>67254352
Likely saving the Italians for a solo Frank show. They had enough to focus on with establishing Frank in a show that's not really about him, introducing his major antagonists as well would have probably been too much. They needed something that could be handled on the side and the Irish, bikers and cartel fit the bill for that.
>>67254835
[citation needed]
>>67253985
who did he kill? He threw Nobu off the roof but Stick cut his head off afterward and told him to stay dead.
>>67254921
He'd rather have Karen think he's a douchebag than expose her by revealing his identity. Not that she doesn't run into ridiculous amounts of danger already, but why make it worse.
Pretty good.
The flashbacks with young Elektra training with Stick were amazing.
The part where he grabs her from behind, fucking hell.
Just like the first season it starts strong but drags in the middle.
>>67253693
They just need to focus on the fucked up villains Frank has to deal with and the cops playing catch up. Maybe some stuff with Microchip which they set up in the end of DD S2.
>>67255048
Well, he didn't know Nobu wouldn't die from the fall, he just released him and didn't give a fuck. So he didn't kill him, but he was willing to. That's kind of a big deal for Matt.
>>67254927
The problem with that scene was I couldn't suspend my disbelief.
DD wraps a chain around a dudes neck and whips the guy at least 8 feet over a railing.
FYI that's basically how hanging works...
Makes DD look at best sloppy and at worst a hypocrite about the whole not killing thing since he does shit all the time that should kill people but doesn't because plot.
>>67255057
Never change /tv/
>>67254370
>you'll never get beaten by her and have her destroy your face with her kicks
>>67255162
>The problem with that scene
That wasn't a problem with that scene. In fact, there were no problems with that scene.
>>67255202
>>67255057
>Actually being a pedo
Fucking christ
>>67255110
But he did know he wouldn't die, anon. Remember Stick telling him they knew the secret to immortality?
>>67255162
It was badass. Not everything has to be 100% accurate you fuck
>>67255248
Immortality =/= invincibility. They can bring people back from the dead. Nobu was dead as fuck after their fight last season.
>>67252591
The beginning of Black Widow of Ennis's MAX run.
>they mentioned that the Hand can actually ressurect people
FUCKING
HELL
THAT -LITERALLY- JUST CONFIRMED THEY'LL BRING KILGRAVE BACK FROM HIS GRAVE.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S FUCKING OBVIOUS.
>>67255335
But Kilgrave has no ties to the Hand anon.
I can't wait for Melvin to snap and become Gladiator
>>67255374
They'll use whoever seems useful to them.
>>67255409
>elektra
>>67255431
Yes?
>>67255218
Yeah and next you'll say the CGI chain didn't look like shit.
Look, I liked but but getting all hyperbolic and calling everything perfect just makes you look like a fucking retard.
>>67255388
Season 3 is basically gonna be villain of the week. That redhead was Mary. Two episodes at least devoted to Gladiator (and his prosecution), a few Bullseye eps and finally Fisk is released. Capeshit writes itself.
>>67255461
Kilgrave would not be useful to the Hand in any way anon. Just one sentence and they all skewer themselves.
>>67255269
Never said it needed to be retard.
It just needs to be believable and consistent with the character/show and that scene wasn't.
Get over it.
>>67255335
You're an idiot.
>>67255527
Just you wait, fag.
Purple Boy is coming back.
>>67255526
>Get over it.
Ask me how I know you're under 25.
>>67255469
And whining about a properly composited scene which only looks odd in hindsight makes you look like a whiny bitch. I agree that getting all hyperbolic is stupid, but so is getting all obsessive with details, when the whole scene flows so well. it could have gone terrible in so many ways.
>>67255526
You might be autistic.
>>67247815
WHY IS FOGGY'S ACTOR SO BAD RRREEEEEEEEE
>>67255513
>we are honorabbru wapanesu and ancientu magicku so you virosu not worku
>>67255557
Just because they can res people doesn't mean they're just going to resurrect every villian ever, even people they don't even know and isn't part of that show.
>>67247815
>the punisher
>manlet
Could anyone else not take him seriously?
WHY DOES KAREN SOUND LIKE SHE'S ABOUT TO BURST INTO TREATS AT ALL TIMES
>>67255567
>Minor criticism now means the scene is terrible and you're autistic for having an opinion
The worst board on 4chan ladies and gentlemen.
Punished "Punisher" Castle was GOAT
He acts like Shane in literally every role he's given.
>>67255590
>Foggy
>not Stick
Hated Stick since S1.
That old fucker can't act for shit.
>>67255597
To be fair, Kilgrave was the most well-liked character and most popular from Jessica Jones. Same(or even more) than Fisk.
Hell you can be sure Fisk appeared that much in S2 because of his popularity. No way Netflix will let Kilgrave be gone forever.
>>67255624
>Minor criticism
>the CGI chain looked like shit
wew lass
>>67255617
She's barely holding on after killing Wesley.
>that part where they threaten the dog
WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?
WHYYYYY
>>67255617
>Constantly getting shot at and in direct danger
>WHY AREN'T YOU HAPPY
Think they'll run the full "Born Again" arch in season 3 or 4? I'm hoping they bring back Nuke
>>67255617
The actress is bad.
>Stan Lee didn't appear even in a picture or something
It's over.
Netflix is dead.
>>67255782
They're not going to destroy Karen's character like that.
>>67255782
I think Marvel stated a while ago they had no intention of making an adaptation of that story. Way too mature.
>>67255855
I figure with Fisk looking into Murdock he'll figure it out on his own
>>67255892
>Way too mature.
you mean edgy
>>67255855
honestly she needs to gtfo this series and take elektra / ninjas with her
>>67255502
A classic case of the third entry going overboard with villains as is classic with capeshit.
>>67255921
How.
>>67255922
Yeah bro, I hate women too!
>>67255922
Honestly, this show would be so much better without karen and the ninjas + elektra
>it's a Frank scenefeelings of happiness mixed with deep emotional distress and thoughts of suicide due to the fact that there will be no Punisher series or movie int he foreseeable future
>>67255975
Why
>>67255994
>there will be no Punisher series or movie int he foreseeable future
Man, this is Marvel, they see how everyone wants it, hell half of DD S2 was Punisher's origin story, he is probably going to get something.
If fucking Luke Cage or who the fuck is getting his own show (I'm no capeshit expert, I dunno who he is), he will.
>>67247815
I'm not too far into it yet but the Punisher stuff is fucking great. Loving it.
Not too hyped at where I'm at now since it seems to be all downhill from here. "Penny and Dime" is the best of the entire series and of most Marvel capeshit in general.
>>67255994
With how popular he has been, Marvel will be looking into it.
They certainly loved his character more than Luke Cage, he was just kind of there in JJ.
>>67251228
This. Karen has more shit going on and Foggy is far more background now and just there being his friend as he should be.
>>67256011
shits incredibly lame
Does anybody ACTUALLY believe that Daredevil's method of not killing is correct compared to Punisher's idea of killing those who deserve it?
I just can't see how Frank is doing any wrong.
Is d'Onofrio wearing a fatsuit? Hiw arms and legs look comically skinny in his prison clothes
The fuck was that CD inside the frame that Frank got in the last episode?
>>67251613
Foggy is completely justified in his whining this time.
This is established in like the second of third episode where he risks his neck going on random rooftops and looking for his retarded friend's body with cops everywhere. Then Daredevil's like "okay, cool man could you just piss off now why judge me?"
>>67255710
>you now remember Wesley
So what is Black Sky?
They've barely moved the Hand plot along at all in 2 seasons.
