Does Western animation even come close to this? That was insanely good, why are all our cartoons either for kids or "adult" comedies?
>>67166415
>why are all our cartoons either for kids or "adult" comedies
Um..do they make cartoons for dogs and cats?
>>67166415
Have you seen Samurai Jack (back, back to the past) by any chance?
>>67166490
Yeah I like Samurai Jack, but it doesn't really come close to Eva. I hope the new episodes are good.
Eva is for real deep thinking intellectual teenagers
Okay, so if you've all spent so much time thinking about NGE, and how it's a transcendentally brilliant animé, can you tell me what you have learned? What's the takeaway message of NGE?
>>67166531
I bet your favorite movie is 2001: A Space Odyssey
>>67166574
That Rei is best girl, obviously.
>>67166574
Dad's are assholes and they can fuck up your lives.
Nothing in the entire western canon comes close to evangelion
>>67166574
You should learn to love yourself, don't assume you're worthless, and congratulations!
>>67166415
Anime is for autists.
>>67166574
Why do you have to learn anything?
>>67166574
cumming on comatose girls is wrong
>>67166574
>Transcendentally brilliant material requires that it teaches something.
Lol.
>>67166652
>>67166766
So is it just mere entertainment to you? Art is supposed to move you, not just provide amusement.
>>67166574
That THIS is really my hand. And fuck playing instruments, it only makes you unhappy.
>>67166800
Amusement is a form of 'moving' you pretentious twat
>>67166574
That social interaction and the pain and stress that comes with it is what makes us human and we should embrace our emotions because of that.
>>67166700
He didn't cum on her. You watched the Italian version.
>>67166415
>Does Western animation even come close to this?
It exceeds it
>>67166860
Maybe in the Australian dialect, but not in civilized society
>>67166574
Even provided with the best facility possible, or even faced with the worst times on your life, the only one who can determine whether you are worth is yourself.
>>67166472
spread pussy lmao
>>67166415
*That* was not "insanely good". It was bad. Very bad. Nonsensical even.
Samurai Champloo is far far superior, and the show is essentially a comedy.
>>67166950
>It's the "anon never watched Cowboy Bebop" episode
>>67166800
Evangelion is not art. There is no meaning behind the symbolism. Anno himself said he just used the christian images because they were foreign and mysterious, he wasn't trying to do any sort of commentary or religion
>>67167016
It's not the shown symbolism though.
It's the narrative underneath the empty Abrahamic going-out-of-business doomsday image. A spaz with a shitty life in a shitty setting determines it's worth it. And like a manic depressive forgets, goes in a circle, and has to do it a couple more times in seemingly nonsensical ways.
>>67167016
The problem with this oft repeated internet "fact" is that doesn't explain why the story is about Adam, Eve, the Lance of Longinus, etc...all parts of the story that aren't symbols. He cobbled this up from old and new testament shit.
>>67167016
Death of the author anon
>>67166415
Is this show worth watching? Keep in mind I'm 25 years old.
Evangelion is probably the most overrated series in existence of any medium. The last couple of episodes and the movie are what everyone goes crazy for and were completely different from the show which was very good but not exactly groundbreaking. It revived a dead genre for a while which is now dead again
>>67166890
>/co/ always shits themselves over how good Moral Orel is
>it ends up being awful
>>67167185
It's a controversial young adult show with some very adult themes. It's worth watching just so you can participate in the thousands of discussions that happen about it and all the references you see to it but there's no real guarantee you'll think positively of the experience. Some people love it though
>>67167185
Don't normally watch anime, watched this recently at age 28. Completely worth it.
>>67167185
Someone will give you their recommended viewing order without your asking
Friendly reminder that this exists and is 2 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB9SL-mZtVY
>>67167008
>Cowboy Bebop
>>>/v/
>>67167016
Does that mean you need a written affidavit from every artist claiming symbolism for every element in their respective painting or piece when you visit a museum?
You're denser than lead friendo.
>>67167185
If you can do anime, it's a good one.
>>67167222
>>67167229
>>67167282
Thanks I guess I'll give it a shot. Is the dub bad? I haven't watched an anime other than Cowboy Bebop with my cousin and pokemon yugioh etc. when I was a kid. I don't mind watching it subbed though
>>67167354
Dub is rather good actually.
>>67167354
Don't listen to /a/utists. Dub is perfectly acceptable. Subs are better, but if you end up liking the show you will watch again anyway. But for a first timer, going dubs is fine.
You'll need to watch Ep 1-26 of the TV show (make sure you watch the Director's Cut version of which episodes had them).
Then watch End of Evangelion.
Avatar was better.
>>67167258
I hope you don't seriously believe this.
>>67166415
The animation is a reflection of the culture that creates them. We love simplicity and false duality. It's South Park of Dora Explorer, take your pick anon. Even South Park is pretty juvenile to be honest, why aren't you watching Friends on Netflix?
FLCL was better.
>>67166597
She's just a stupid doll.
>>67167451
FLCL and Eva are completely different, but they're both 10/10 for me
>>67167451
That is possibly true. But Ping Pong Club is better than FLCL
>>67166598
>Dad's are assholes and they can fuck up your lives.
and pedos, they're always trying to do God's work
>>67167477
He didn't say they were the same, you roody poo.
>>67167451
There are so many references flew over my head I couldn't enjoy this lmao
>>67167477
FLCL is nonsense
>>67166415
>Does Western animation even come close to this?
Yes, most 1990-2005 cartoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckkZihQUaU
>>67167514
It surprisingly isn't. On the first pass, if you aren't paying attention, it may seem like nonsense.
Evangelion had a lot more handwave leap of faith BS in it.
Why is Eva fedora tier?
There was a rumor that Canoe Reeves was going to do a live action of Fruits Basket. Seriously. Google it.
>>67167354
Dub will give you cancer, they modified it a lot.
watch the 2d4u versions and sephirotics EOE.
>>67167391
Dub was so bad, that they even re-casted Rei in the rebuilds. Anno's orders.
Bitch directed EOE dub and it was hiddeous, also she wasnt a very good voice for Rei eitherway.
Akira was better.
>>67166415
>Do cartoons compare to anime
And you decided to make this thread on /tv/ why?
>>67167536
god I hate that channel and the woman that sings.
>>67167556
Explain.
No really, I'm not trying to bant, or be contratian or anything. What the fuck was FLCL all about. My GF insisted I watch it with her nearly a decade ago and I hated every single second. Hated the plot, the music, the animation, the characters. Hated everything about it really, in retrospect I think I liked her less for the experience, it was her favorite anime.
>>67167612
I think most anime is kinda bad in general.
Dub worked for me.
>hey, let's add in some biblical terms like "angels" "lillith" and "Adam" and the manchildren that actually watch this stuff will think it's OMGSODEEP
>>67167612
>Dub was so bad, that they even re-casted Rei in the rebuilds. Anno's orders.
Your so full of shit. Also, Anno has no say in Funimations casting. Only the translations.
>>67167652
Fuck your brothers ex
Don't get stupid
Rule of Cool in effect
>>67167699
Except no one that actually watched Eva thinks the religious imagery is "OMGSODEEP". It's an aesthetic and a vehicle for the actual themes and character studies. Try harder shitposter.
>>67167699
japs think christianity/judaism is mysterious and exotic. western shows do the same shit with eastern religions, remember lost? remember DHARMA, namaste, random iching hexagrams? that shit was meaningless but everybody obsessed over it for years.
>>67166415
>monster of the week
>last 2 episodes dedicated to TOO DEEP 4 YOU
i understood it all and the last 2 episodes sucked
go back to ayour waifu a shit
Hey Arnold!
>>67167016
Why do people who can only identify the purposely over the top Christian symbolism parrot this?
>>67167808
This, there isn't much too it.
The depth comes from parent/child government/citizen relationship mostly. The Judeo-Christian shit is just an art as interpreted through Japanese eyes. Since everyone has a mother and father and lives in a country, yeah, this should be relevant to you and you ought to appreciate it's depth.
is this out on bluray yet
>>67167652
Haruko (Guitar Chick) tells you all the things as time goes on in 6 episodes, but it's about an intergalactic war waging outside of Earth between Medical Mechanica (Bronze Iron Factory) and Atomsk (Weird Energy Space Bird). Both sides use a form of portaling teleportation to move matter across vast distances, and the handwave is that the energy for this portal is created by the two halves of a being's brain, and the amount of NO (Portal Ability) varies from being to being. Atomosk is feared because he has so much personal NO that he can create portals large enough to steal entire planets.
Haruko is a Space Cop trying to track Atomsk, who is hiding in NO space on Earth, however she is also a corrupt cop/in love with Atomsk. She captured him once, but he got away (the handcuff on her arm is used to track the matching link in Atomsk's beak). She activates Nauta's NO so that she can open a portal drag Earth into the war, and use the planet's imminent destruction to draw out Atomsk and catch him. A lot of Medical Mechanica equipment gets sent after Haruko, mostly through Nauta's portal. Meanwhile a clandestine Earth agency tries to keep Earth from being sucked into the war, and is lead by someone Haurko used as a portal in the past (but his NO is very weak.) Haruko systematically eliminates Earth's defenses (Baseball satellite) while fending off Medical Mechanica and quipment stolen by Atomsk, until the Earth flattening iron is activated. Atomsk shows up to break Medical Mechanica's shit and then flies off into space. Haruko has to go in order to capture him.
During this time Nauta faces a lot of the coming-of-age awkwardness and uncertainty, while being disillusioned with the grownups around him. His brother was good at baseball and was scouted into the American leagues. Mamimi had an unrequited crush on Nauta's brother, and has shifted elements of it to Nauta. As Nauta becomes increasingly independent and individual, Mamimi suffers rejection all over again
>>67167881
It saves them the trouble of using their brain.
>>67167881
they dont want to lose their fedora status while still enjoying western conditioning material for japs.
>>67167926
It was all very subtle.
>>67167652
You should be ashamed of yourself.
how do I watch this? There's like multiple movies and shit idk where to start
>>67167926
Seen FLCL several times. Never figured half of this.
>>67168033
Because its not important, much like Eva's story. It's all a vehicle for the main character. Which makes them double amazing since their stories stand up by themselves without the deep themes about growing up and being a male loser.
>>67168028
If you're talking about Eva then read this
>>67167399
[Required]
The other movies are not "necessary". One is Death & Rebirth which is basically a recap of the TV show with bits of the EoE movie attached to it. [Optional]
The other 3 are part of the Rebuild series. In essence higher quality big budgeted movie remakes of the TV show. Except after the first movie, it completely becomes a different plot than the TV show. The 4th and final one of these films is yet to be released. [Optional, can be viewed after if you really into Eva]
>>67167913
yes download the 2D4U releases on nyaa
just search 2D4U to on nyaa,se to find them
>>67168028
See
>>67167399
The two classic movies are "Death and rebirth" and "end of evangelion." They are both remakes and expansions of the final two episodes. End of eva is better.
Then the confusing labeled "Evangelion Rebuild" movies are recent reforgings of the show. Rebuild 1.11 and 2.22 are cool if you like the show, it mostly follows the early episodes. 3.33 diverts and pretty much fucks up the money grab that is Rebuild. 4.44 is still coming.
Has there ever been a more terrible and annoying protagonist?
>>67168206
Anakin Skywalker.
But seriously, Shinji is awful.
>>67168033
You get all of the broader narration from two unreliable narrators. For instance, Haruko flat out tells Nauta she's a space cop, but says it such a joking way that you aren't supposed to believe her and it is immediately dismissed. Meanwhile, you also get Eyebrow Dude (who's name I can't remember) explanations, who is trying to hide the whole truth and who's point of view is very skewed by his bitterness at being abandoned and his left over feelings towards Haruko.
When you put it all together, it's kinda like the same epiphany you have when you finally figure out everything in Kotor2 (or read Scorchy's epic screenshot Let'sPlay and have it broken down for you. Fucking do it, it's great even/especially if you thought KOTOR2 was shit), and you realize it's a million times better than KOTOR1. Both are very much stories about being given partial information and sifting through the lies.
Evangelion hides stuff from you longer, but eventually explains everything to you directly, even if their explanations are confusing cop-out bullshit.
>>67168028
>how do i watch this?
Watch the original TV series, obviously.
>>67168206
"A good hero is always flawed. Hm. Let's give him all the flaws."
>>67166582
If he doesn't like eva he probably doesn't like 2001 friend.
>>67168206
I hear the manga is actually very good, but the first season of the anime version of Tokyo Ghoul has some of the most boring cookiecutter protagonists. He's Shinji, but somehow edgier and more bland at once. It's almost amazing how shit it is.
>>67168254
>epic screenshot Let'sPlay
>>67168308
Ken Kaneki was so bad that I actually learned to appreciate Shinji.
>>67168254
Yeah I don't care. All already like FLCL and Eva with a mild enthusiasm. Eva has less jargon to grapple and more time to see it play out compared to FLCL
I didn't "learn"anything from Eva, but it's certainly thought-provoking. Just at random: NGE examines the belief present in some religions (e.g. the Kabbalah) that human souls are all a fragment of a single whole. The appeal of "merging" with others is thoroughly explored through Eva - physically (through sex and science) and spiritually (via the Evas, the Angel's mind rape and eventually Tang) - both positives and negatives are shown but ultimately the protagonist realises identity IS life, and being a discrete being despite the pain of being incomplete, is better than the alternative. It's even a warning against the dangers of subsuming your personality of another person or group.
>>67168357
This guy gets it.
>>67166415
Evangelion is for kids OP. Grow up.
>insanely good
>just repeating same animation over and over repeating same line over and over not even a new saying orf the same line just the same recorded line over and over for like 2 minutes straight
>entire episode which is nothing but the comic relief character loudly shouting nonstop like an annoying bitch
>entire premise of show is just exposition
>plot goes fucking nowhere
>pulls ending out of its ass
>pretends to be deep
>characters are the most atypical bullshit
>you are working for the bad guy all alone anime trope
>amnesia trope
the people taht think that anime was deep are the retards who were sitting down and watching the girl put speghetti o's up her vag
the characters were flat
they did not grow as characters or progress or reach some sort of culmination
it was just 98% pandering exposition with 2% premise that has no point and no reason to even exist
the fact they relied so heavily on their premise was because they couldnt incorporate a realistic depiction of teens, they needed some over dramatic over the top fight with the savior of all man kind being the chosen one who can only stop the big bad
it was absolutely the most overhyped piece of shit i've seen in a long time, and ive seen some real turds
and holy shit was a terrible ending, pulled it out of their ass because they ran out of money and had not planned an actual legitimate story arc before being hired to make it
>>67168336
This was the days before YouTube even existed, young one. Great Dial-up Giants lumbered aimlessly across the surface, and video was an expensive and intensive data format that was out of easy reach by the common man.
Actually, I guess it was in 2007, but whatever. Still pretty good.
>>67166415
Utena was better
>HURR I'M A WHINY LITTLE FAGGOT
>ONLY 14 YEAR OLDS CAN PILOT BIG DUMB ROBOTS TO SAVE THE WORLD FOR DUMB REASON THAT MAKES NO SENSE
>TALKING TO GIRLS IS HARD AND THEY HURT MY FEELINGS
>FUCK IT I'LL JUST BE GAY
>OH SHIT HE DIED, I FORGOT HOMOSEXUALITY KILLS PEOPLE
great cartoon there champ
>>67168357
I always thought Shinji's revelation was basically a rejection of the religious fantasy. He literally turns down paradise which he comes to see as a fantasy, for the bleakness of reality. Probably the bravest thing he's ever done. But also serving a double meaning for the viewer to reject the fantasy of even watching Eva itself to opt instead for real world interactions, however painful that may be...
>>67168442
Did Eva have an amnesia trope? Rei didn't remember Shinj because she died and was replaced by a clone that had never met him.
>>67168442
too deep for you
>>67168442
This reads like contrarian bullshit but honestly it's 100% true
Evangelion is Straightforward - it's about the Kaballah creation myth.
Chronology as I understand it:
Events of Evangelion begin,
Ghost Rei appears: this is likely Giant Naked Rei from the EoE simply acting as a harbinger of events to come or something to do with Rei being fucking magic.
Episodes 1-24
End of Evangelion
25
Rebuild
26
It seems that Evangelion draws from a diverse set of Old Testament mythology but mostly Kabbalistic traditions and mysticism specifically relating to the "Sephirot" aka Tree of Life that is always showing up everywhere. It is not however limited to Kabbalism in its influences. For instance I see some parallels with the Syriac Apocalypse of Baruch when it comes to the Moons, SEELE (12 tribes) and their intentions.
Explanation of Evangelion according to Kabbalah mythology:
The intentions of SEELE were to raise man to godhood by unifying with Adam, ending the curse of Lilith, and thereby "fixing" reality - which in Kabbalah is literally a matter of perception.
In Medieval Kabbalah, the sin of Adam, as well as later sin, introduces apparent separation (perceived from Creation) between the two, bringing exile and constriction on High. The task of man is restoring union to the Male and Female Divine manifestations[Adam and Lilith]. Within the tetragrammaton [Tree of Kabbalah/Sephirot in EOE], the first two letters[of YVHV/name of god] signify the Concealed World/Upper Unity with God[Adam/Lilith], and the latter two signify the Created World/Lower Unity[Rei/Shinji].
When the Mass Production Evas lift Shinji and Unit-01 up into the "Zeir Anpin" position of the Tree of Life they were beginning the Kabbalah ritual to return man to divinity/create a new reality where we are divinity.
This is essentially the ultimate drive of life at some point - hence, why it was in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's not because they predicted the future, but because it's what we were born to do.
>>67168475
Only 14 year old can pilot because they were in utero during the disaster that devastated the planet.
>>67168494
No, the guy is an idiot who assesses all media by the same childish, box-ticking, checklist perspective.
>>67168510
For Shinji to trigger human instrumentality these things were needed:
Keter: Lilith/Adam ("Female/Male of Ancient Days"/"Primary Earliest Cause")
Abba: Gendo ("Father")
Zeir Anpin: Shinji ("Son"/"Groom seeking unity with Nukvah/Rei"/Infinitely Patient One) this one comprises six circles on the Tree (six wings!?)
Nukvah: Rei ("Daughter"/"Bride seeking unity with Zeir Anpin"/"One with internal divine presence"/"The-Kingship's-fulfillment-of-the-plan-in-reality") Daughter of Lilith and sort of Yui/Gendo. Other names are "Leah" and "Rachel" which sounds like "Rei"
Imma: Yui's soul ("Mother")
However an impact is easier.
In Evangelion this causes the "Doors of Guf".
Doors of Guf in mythology:
The peculiar idiom of describing the treasury of souls [Initially the Black Moon] as a "body" may be connected to the mythic tradition of Adam, the primordial man. Adam, God's "original intention" for humanity[Earth life], was a supernal being[Angel], androgynous and macro-cosmic (co-equal in size with the universe). When this Adam sinned[Failed?], humanity was demoted to the flesh and blood, bifurcated and mortal creatures we are now. According to Kabbalah, every human soul is just a fragment (or fragments) cycling out of the great "world-soul"[Black Moon]. Hence, every human soul comes from the Guf.
The Black Moon is the "Treasury of Souls" according to SEELE in EOE "The Geofront has returned to its true form. The Egg of Lilith, source of all human life. The Black Moon. We no longer wish to return inside her shell. But that is for Lilith to decide". When the Guf is opened in 3.33 of the Rebuild the White Moon is visible within it which may be where the Angels came from.
During the first impact SEELE says something about how Shinji's ego needs to be destroyed first for it to be completed and then he starts descending to madness "His destrado is manifesting!!" "His ego can't take much more of this" then he snaps.
The reason for this is that for them to successfully make the Evangelion and all of humanity into a God they must return it to a state of "Ein Sof" through a process of negating the Tree of LIfe bits. Shinji's role is basically the opposite of what he is in EoE - where before he fights his way out of the Dirac Sea angel because "I wanted to see everyone again" now he cannot muster the will to even stand on his own. This is repeated in Evangelion 3.33 at the almost-impact when Asuka ends up literally having to drag his comatose emotionally shattered self around.
This is deeply connected with the Kabbalah. In it, existence (as modeled by the Tree of Life) is an infinitely cycling descending chain. The bottom most segment "Malchut"/"Nukvah"/"The-Kingship's-fulfillment-of-the-plan-in-reality" which is missing in EoE's giant Tree of Life or rather is Rei herself & the Scenario does not come from god like all the other bits but is created by creation.
According to the Kabbalists, this leaves the Rei/Malchut part saying "Let there be..." in accordance with the plan. However, in Evangelion Rei instead gives the choice to Shinji who pretty much shit on everything by saying let there be "Nothing!". Which was actually always the point of the process anyways - to create a state of "Ein Sof".
Its ultimate result is the negation of the previous bits to the original state of Ein Sof that inevitably drives itself to recreate the universe starting with the "Initial Primary Cause" in an entirely new level of reality one step lower from the creation of all things. It's my belief that after Third Impact, Shinji and Asuka are shat out of the "Ein Sof" sea of LCL (or unit-01 floating through space?) as the new Adam/Lilith. Shinji immediately goes to choke Asuka which is actually what Lilith does to Adam in the First Impact.
>>67168514
>DUMB REASON THAT MAKES NO SENSE
Exactly
>>67168442
Ok.
I'm going to be 'that guy' and ask you what you consider a true masterpiece of audiovisual art.
>>67168486
there's nothing deep about it
you're just an idiot who watched it when you were 12 and thought it was such amazing deep shit because you were an ignorant as fuck retarded kid who didnt know any better
i just watched the entire thing very recently and holy fuck that ending was the absolute worst ending of anything in the entire world that i have seen
>>67168546
Ein Sof:
in Kabbalah, is understood as God prior to his self-manifestation in the production of any realm, "the Endless One". Ein Sof may be translated as "no end", "unending", "there is no end", or infinity.
As a place,
Ein Sof is a place to which forgetting and oblivion pertain. Why? Because concerning all the sefirot, one can search out their reality from the depth of supernal wisdom. From there it is possible to understand one thing from another.
Essentially after EoE Shinji's ego was destroyed in order to fulfill SEELE and Gendo's goal of negating creation by packing all the souls of the earth into unit-01. It's really hard to tell if this actually happened though. This quote occurs as unit-01 floats through space in one of the last scenes of EoE:
Kouzou Fuyutsuki: When Man created Evangelion, were we trying to create a clone of God?
Yui Ikari: Of course. Humans can only exist on this Earth. But the Evangelion will be able to exist forever, along with the human soul that dwells within it. When the Earth, the Moon and the Sun are all gone, EVA will exist, so long as one person remains. It'll be lonely, but as long as one person still lives...
Kouzou Fuyutsuki: ...it will be eternal proof that Mankind ever existed.
Shinji: Goodbye, Mother...
Which seems to indicate that everyone is in Unit-01 and as long as Shinji is fucked up they will continue to exist in it. His position as "infinitely Patient One" in the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and his role according to the above quote would basically make him the shittiest cog in God.
>>67168510
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.
>>67168563
This is the state of human instrumentality that Shinji rebels against because as in Kabbalah, he is the "vessel" and thus torn by his very nature as they intrinsically possess the desire to "Ratzo" run away to a state of nothingness and "Bittul" (the constant desire to stay in the same level of the chain of being), and constantly suffer the constant external pressure of "Shuv" or continuing down the chain (that ultimately leads to instrumentality).
Bittul drives him to remain at a certain state, Ratzo is why he keeps being an emo bitch, and Shuv is everything that makes him get back into an eva. Most of the series is him acting on these impulses.
This also meshes with his position on the Tree of Life meaning "Infinitely patient one".
The Rebuild is clearly a post-EoE world (as evidenced by the red sea, red stripe across the sky, second lance of longinus from when Shinji broke it in two at EOE while drifting in space, the ruins of Tokyo 3 with signs of angels despite no fighting, Kawaru's statements, Giant Naked Rei in the basement, etc.)
In the rebuild it's also clear that Kawaru knows what's up and is trying to help Shinji out also but that Shinji is just repeatedly, desperately trying to become a person - someone he himself is satisfied with and always fails. The fact that Central Dogma and Tokyo 3 are literally plastered with thousands of unit-01's (which are not people because Misato and others survived) indicates he may have been trying to fix the world for the thousandth time. Another bit of evidence for this is how Kawaru says that those eva are ones that "failed to become infinity" - which is literally the translation of Kabbalah's becoming god thing which is itself "impact/instrumentality".
when the fuck does 4.44 come out? I need closure.its going to be a complete HD 1:1 remake of episode 25 & 26 isn't it?
>>67168550
something something tang juice in the womb of all pregnant women during the last impact something something. Doesn't really have to make sense but at least they gave some sort of explanation
>>67168560
too deep for you
>>67168579
Kawaru: "The Third is still the same.", "This time, I'll be sure to bring you happiness."
Shinji: "Nothing good ever comes from piloting the Eva, I've had enough. I don't want to do anything!"
Kawaru: "And nothing good comes from replaying your painful memories either."
Kawaru: "Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world. It's just like you."
Note that throughout the series Shinji is putting his SDAT between track 25-26. Episode 25 is him isolated in his shit-world populated with puppets, creation, and destruction and 26 is where he finally comes to terms - the "purification of souls" SEELE spoke of - where everyone is applauding like "Yeah! you did it! fuck yeah!"
The fact that in 2.0 the SDAT skips from 25 to 27 and in 3.33 skips from 25-28 seems to be evidence that the Rebuilds are a more in-depth look at what happened between 25 and 26 before that event where he is exploring possible lives like that one where his family doesn't suck, Asuka is a childhood friend, and Rei is an annoying transfer student.
TL;DR: Evangelion is actually an extremely straight-forward story about an esoteric religious tradition called Kabbalah and its view of reality as Seder Hishtalshelus (a "chainlike descent of worlds") which posits that creation eventually negates creation by ritually bringing together the parts of God's name in the form of particular people Adam/Lilith Gendo/Yui Shinji/Rei to make up the "Tree of Life" - thus creating a new lower level of reality - in a process that inevitably repeats itself to infinity.
Rebuild is without doubt a sequel to EOE but before Episode 26.
Edit: Thanks for gold! (=D)
>>67168581
How will it ever top TUMBLING DOWN?
>>67168579
>>67168563
>>67168546
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>>67168510
I've had this saved for a few years and haven't read it ever
>>67168550
The Evas carry the souls of said children's mothers, Eva 00 being an exception of course.
>>67168556
>I CANT RESPOND TO CRITICISM SO IM GOING TO TRY TO AD HOMINEM SO GIVE ME EXAMPLES SO I CAN SHIT ON THEM BECAUSE I HAVE NO RECOURSE
the fact that they ran out budget, the fact that the entire show was build up and exposition that went fucking NO-WHERE, the fact that the ending was THAT FUCKING AWFUL
i can say like 15 different harem animes less cliched and terrible than that piece of shit
holy FUCKING SHIT
go rewatch the Asuka episode and if you dont have the urge to turn off the video after listening to that terrible voice acting shouting nonstop you have no valid opinion worth regarding
>>67168510
>>67168534
>>67168546
>>67168563
How exactly does any of this asspull nonsense make the show and less painful to watch?
>>67168602
>DUMB REASON THAT MAKES NO SENSE
Exactly.
Whether you hate or love the show, you still have to respect that it garners a lot of posts across different boards more than 20 years later.
>>67168605
It doesn't
Either you dig it or you don't
Why you so jealous of people that dig it?
>>67168604
Wow, you really are stupid.
>>67168618
same will be true of the dark knight rises.
>>67168618
>you have to respect that flies flock to shit
No, I don't.
>>67168601
>no anime was about characters before evangellion
that is the most delusional statement ive ever seen
the entire thing just reads like some moron praising something already popular then trying to tie everything of success to that one anime
anime wasnt "dying" it probably is the most consistent genre of media in the past 30 years if not 40 yrs now
you just like created arbitrary struggles out of your own delusional mind to try to justify the anime being shit
>>67168621
I'm not. I just wanted to ask and see if anyone had a reasonable answer. You did. Thank you.
>>67168625
>AD HOMINEM BECAUSE I COULDNT AD HOMINEM UR ANIME OF CHOICE
you cant refute any point ive made
its a fucking point of fact the anime was so poorly produced they ran out of money and went fucking nowhere and pulled the ending out of their ass and shat it on a plate for retards like you to worship it,
you're beyond delusional
>>67168601
damn that's good read.
>>67168684
It appeals to "beta males" going through depression.
I've watched it at different times in my life where I felt alienated and had nothing to live for and it helped me feel better about everything.
>>67168666
>>no anime was about characters before evangellion
What it actually says:
>Sure, it... changed the focus of shows post-Eva to the mental development of the characters instead of the plot development, but there were shows that had done this before.
>>67168601
I wonder how much time the author of that mini-essay about Eva spent writing it.
>>67168726
you need to read the fucking stupid copypasted bullshit you post nigger
last paragraph
you attribute the entirety of the genre being charactyer driven solely because of Evangellion the most overrated turd of the anime genre
congratz, you are the retard, good job reading your own delusional fucking rants praising shit 20 years after it was made like everything you write is some grand epiphany i wouldnt doubt if that was your fucking delusional as fuck college paper on your fav little weeabo subject you submitted to your budget ass community college you belong to
>>67168802
you're all over the place~ I have no clue who wrote that and only posted it so I and maybe some others could read it. Obviously Eva isn't the greatest thing ever but that pic does give a little insight on why people watched/enjoyed Eva when it came out
>>67167926
Sounds like rubbish
Man this is the show I really wanna watch because of curiosity. This show is a holly grail to /a/ and /tv/ witch intrigues me because I heard about it even before lurking 4chan. The thing that intrigues me the most is how contrarian these boards are NGE has always been held in high regard by the majority to the anime watching community. The only thing the makes me think it might be a waste of time is that I don't know how much "Nostalgia" plays into the viewers opinions, I've heard that alot who've watch it were young when they first did. I guess ill have to watch for myself and discuss later.
>>67168888
It's literally one of the best things I've ever seen in my life.
It's on par with Ingmar Bergman
>>67168888
You have to ignore everything you see people saying about it and just watch it. The opinions of people on the internet 20 years after the show was made have NO effect on the series itself. I see people whining about how they hate the show because the fans are stupid or because the show is "overrated" and I think it's pathetic that someone could be such a simpleton.
teh rei has always been a beloved character on 4chan.
>>67168888
>I don't know how much "Nostalgia" plays into the viewers opinions
I first watched it last year and thought it was pretty great but that's just me.
Anyone thinking that this anime is watchable should kill themselves.
>ROBOTS LMAO
>>67168888
the show isnt long
just go watch it
i personally fucking hated it and the reason i watched it was the same reason as you, curiosity after years and years of endless hype and praise, its so completely overrated and i think the only way youd ever enjoy this was if you were 12-15 years old and had a low IQ and thought everything they did and said was so amazing and deep, because its really not
>>67166415
Yo can't make subversive art without upsetting a few plebs
Gargoyles was better.
Batman the Animated Series was better.
>>67168707
Right and ultimately this show is about Anno the socially inept depressed nerd trying to reach out to other socially inept depressed nerds who are presumably watching anime to begin with. Basically him saying "Hey shit sucks, I feels too, but sharing this with you will help us both."
>>67169114
>the only way youd ever enjoy this was if you were 12-15 years old and had a low IQ
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones anon. The way you type screams "underage retard".
>>67169268
>>67167086
You guys are missing what actually makes Evangelion such a great show. Sure, the story may be annoyingly convoluted, the characters may piss you off, but there's something there that makes it great.
It's direction, as far as animation goes it was brilliantly directed. Most everything had a purpose to the main story, the characters actually behaved like real people, and acted in line with their actual character.
I recently watched a few episodes of Naruto after god knows how many years, and wow, is the direction ever bad. The amount of shots and garbage they created for the sole purpose of dragging out an episode are immense.
To be quite honest with you, most American animation does a far better job at direction than anime simply because of the money they pump into it. Anime tends to have more entertaining premises and plot-lines and usually does depth and drama better. The stuff that's cheap to finance.
I know some people might hate me for being unable to watch a show but I'm the 6th episode and I'm so bored I keep tabbing in and out of 4chan. Code geass had a way better intro then this, I was hooked instantly.
You guys saying it gets better, better be right
>>67169485
>as far as animation goes it was brilliantly directed
Up until they ran out of budget and had multiple scenes that were one still image for literally two minutes.
>>67169340
again with the ad hominem this isnt a college essay grammer doesnt equate into intelligence
youre more or less an overreaching child trying to pretend hes more mature than he actually is with no actual refuting of points other than blind attempts to ad hominem
im probably older than you and started watching anime before you were even born to top it off ive got a matured perspective because ive stopped watching anime for a long ass time and just recently have been started watching shows ive missed out on
and by far the worst one ive seen is evangellion , the ending is a complete travesty and let down and i asked myself when i was at the 22nd episode whether or not they would pull the ending out of their ass becuase the plot hasnt progressed past the point of the first episode's initial introduction, with no characters learning or developing in the slightest, and only little hints at exposition to the BEEG TWESST
the whole this sucked and you suck for thinking its good, because its not
>>67169519
We can pretend that didn't happen and just watch EoE.
:)
>>67169509
The first episodes are a bit slow but worth the investment. Try to pick up as much as you can before things start getting weird.
>>67169525
>grammer doesnt equate into intelligence
That what they always say, but your posts in this thread are evidence #341685 that there is at least a strong correlation.
>all the rest of that shit
tl;dr
>>67169591
>That
I mean "that's"
:^)
>>67166574CONGRATULATIONS
anime is for babies wtf why so many replies
I never could take NGE serious, everytime they tried to pull at my heartstrings all i could think was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w
Same with the weird visuals, they were cool looking but i couldn't help to roll my eyes after 10th time they pull that shit off, eventually it looses all effect.
>>67166415
Im sorry OP and, while I agree western animation is behind.....
.... Eva sucks.
Also /co/ is that way
>>67170756
should i watch haruhi 2006 or 2009?
>>67170774
2006.
Also watch in broadcast order.
Skip everything about 2009 except Namboo Leaf Rhapsody.
Then finish with the movie.
>>67167612
Most of the cast was recast befor the rebuilds even came out
>>67166415
Western comics are better than manga. If western animation was more focused on adapting critically acclaimed comic books it would also be superior to anime.
Watch anything by Aleksandr Petrov
>>67171743
All the most popular and critically acclaimed comic books are already adapted
>>67169525
>the plot hasnt progressed past the point of the first episode's initial introduction, with no characters learning or developing in the slightest
Why waste so much time being stupid?
>>67167195
Did you even watch past season 1?
>>67166574
Life sucks but it's better than nothing.
>>67171743
>western comics are better than manga
fucking wew lad
>>67171828
Silly generalization. Even if there was a Swamp Thing movie, doesn't mean all Swamp Thing comics have been adapted. And then you can point to things like Saga that is stupid popular and wins awards with no adaptation.
>>67171743
I have yet to see an adaptation of Spiegelman's Maus.
>>67166415
OP, Evangelion is a terrible choice. While I don't deny that Evangelion had its impact on the anime industry and otakus, there is no way it will recieved more mainstream recognition in the West. Too much of Eva is too far out there.
If I want to pick a better example of a standard ithe East ahs that the West can never meet, I'd rather pick One Punch Man. Someone else would say Attack on Titan, but thats yesteryear's anime. plus One Punch Man is capeshit. If Japan can do better capeshit, the West has a lot catch up on: I have yet to see a Superman cartoon on the level of One Punch Man
>>67173263
>one meme man and attack on titan
>>>/r/eddit
>>67166415
Steven Universe and Gravity Falls are much better than any anime you can name.
The angels did nothing wrong
>>67173328
Not gonna lie though, thats some sweet animation in Shiki.
But thats the point: if the West can't even excel in their own shit, how can they compete with the East? Too much animation in the West caters to children or comedy television, and even the best stuff is usually capet. And even the cape either cannot match up or is animated in Korea.
I think the last time I saw a western animated series coming close to standard is Avatar. Mainly Korra. And even then it suffered a lot.
And oh yeah: Avatar already ended recently.
Its why the West will never match up. The last animator I know that even come close to Jap standards was Ralph Bakshi. And he's old now.
>>67173517
Vampire Hunter D.
Ghost in the Shell.
Akira
If you say Steven Universe and Gravity Falls are better your taste isyour own
Zootopia is better than any anime released since The Tale of Princess Kaguya.
>>67173577
The animation in SU & Gravity Falls are more fluid than animation in any anime.
>>67173545
Japan has made animation their forte. It's a cultural thing.
It comes at a cost though, even larger portion of their real life movies are shit. I'm not saying that most movies aren't shit everywhere else, but for example if movies in US are 95% shit, 98% of Japanese movies are shit.
>>67173603
Kill yourself , you fucking mong.
>>67173545
>Too much animation in the West caters to children or comedy television
So what? A good comedy is better than a bad drama.
>>67173644
Except you are completely wrong. Japanese films are superior in every way to anime.
>>67173662
Western animation is really limited.Where are the good sci-fi , mystery , horror , cyberpunk ,musical , drama , supernatural , psychological thriller shows? Western animation lacks variety.
>>67171743
>Western comics are better than manga.
West falls in most important aspect. They can't draw sex appeal characters even if their life depends on it.
>>67173774
>Where are the good sci-fi , mystery , horror , cyberpunk ,musical , drama , supernatural , psychological thriller shows?
I can easily ask the same about Japanese animation.
>>67173622
That's because they look really simplistic and are animated on computers.
>>67173684
Expect one. Most important aspect of Japanese anime and manga is sex. Try to find western porn comic or animation. Things you will find will make you puke or laugh. Try to find hentai you will find infinite amount of dick pleasing content. This is effect of Comiket. Japanese artist for decades trained to create art concepts and techniques to make pictures to draw attention by themselves. It need to sold themselves by just one glance on the cover. In extremely competitive environment with no obscenity rules everything allowed. And they excel in it. Anime and manga sell sex. They can have deficiencies in plot, direction, anything but one look in the anime girl eyes and you will melt. Real life can't compete with ideal.
>>67173622
Pretty much this >>67174083
I've seen fluidity in >>67173263 and >>67173328
If you can show me clips from Gravity Falls and Steven Universe that match this level, then I'd stand corrected. But atm, the only other aniamtion I can think of, aside from Bakshi, that comes even this close, is Avatar (both tLA and LoK) and the Boondocks. And even both of those are animated in Korea.
Gravity falls is better than 99.5% of anime
if you didn't think it you didn't watch it
simple as that
>>67166415
Heavy Metal. Fire and Ice. Gandahar. Fantastic Planet. Western animation shits on japshit. It's just that it doesn't often get the funding or support it needs ad deserves.>>67166472
>>67174637
Does it have semen demons?
>>67173877
>>good sci-fi
Akira
Votoms
Rahxephon
>>mystery
Occult Academy
>>horror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZtOnznW3GI
>>cyberpunk
Ghost in the Shell
Ergo Proxy
>>musical
FLCL
Interstella 5555
>>drama
Welcome to the NHK
>>supernatural
Vampire Hunter D
>>psychological thriller
Serial Experiments Lain
And I haven't even watched a lot anime. Thats just offhand from what I can remember. There's A LOT more, and msot have not even touched the surface.
>>67174637
gravity falls is probably the 2nd worst show, the first being steven universe of course.
>>67174664
Are you talking about the quality of the shows themselves or just the animation. because anime shits on western animation in both of those categories
>>67174663
>>67173328
>>67173263
>>67174637
I watched it. All the seasons
It isn't.
:^)Maybe....... better than 50 to 60% of anime. At best
>>67174714
I hope you are not serious. If anime is so much better than Western animation then good shows and films in all those genres should come more often.
Akira is 30 years old.
By the way, some of the series you mentioned are bad or very bad.
>>67174768
I think he means the quality.
And to be REALLY fair to him, and I mean it: his three examples were pre 90s. Your example is post 2000s. Comparing the quality of animation wouldn't be fair
But agreed >>67174664 western animation doesn't get the funding or support it needs.
And no, Western stuff does not shit on the Japanese, its the other way round. To be more precise, the Japanese stuff shits on the US stuff.
There are some things the French and other European have done that are pretty wicked. But yeah, Japan is trumping it atm.
>>67174862
>But yeah, Japan is trumping it atm
Nowadays even Disney is better than anime.
>>67174768
No it really doesn't. Yes I'm talking about both and I've watched both. I think the popularisation of 3D animation really hurt the development of western 2D animation. But lots of my fondest imaginings and emotions were inspired by the western animation I watched as a child and continues now. I also love shit like He-man, Jem and the Diamonds, Heh Arnold, this random cartoon set in 20s-50s New York with anthropomorphic dogs with a heavy gangster vibe to it (I think it was centred around a dog policeman), Dinoriders, X-men and several nameless cartoons I can't remember from the 90s.
>>67174846
If it was veyr bad, people wouldn't be talking about them years after. I can give you that about some of them, but people still talk about Lain. Vampire Hunter D is still considered a classic.
Perhaps what you're thinking is of a show that syndicated, and thing is: not everything Japan has to be something like Naruto or the Simpsons. To be, a well written,w ell thought out anime condensed in 26 episodes, like Cowboy Bebop, is way superior to anything than the Simpsons produced, post season 8Also, you haven't stated which series you thought is bad, and WHY it is bad. I'd also note that your opinion of what is bad is subjective
>>67174907
If you mean movies, MAYBE.
If you mean TV series, sorry bruh.
The only thing I can give it to you is maybe Star Vs. And Gravity Falls. And even then, I think I enjoyed Little Witch Academia a lot more then Star Vs.(but Star Vs was better than Madoka Magica)
And Gravity Falls......all I can say is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2-g5Cc_0KE
>>67174949
I'm not saying they are all bad. Occult Academy for example is bad, so is Rahxephon.
Vampire Hunter D is overrated.
What I'm saying is this: if anime is so much better than Western animation then shows like Lain or Cowboy Bebop should be more common.
>>67174862
>>67174768
Weabs fucking gtfo. I've seen your animes. Only the less popular ones are kinda nice. Rest is all the fucking same overstretched story without anything interesting. Anime is getting worse these days.
There are so many fucking creative minds in Hollywood and beyond in the west it isn't even funny. The lack of support and funding for them really hurts the industry. Anime also lacks the diverse art forms and styles explored in western animation. It is really much more diverse and artistic, with artists expressing ideas in several ways.
>>67175014
>>There are so many fucking creative minds in Hollywood and beyond in the west it isn't even funny. The lack of support and funding for them really hurts the industry.
I may be a weeaboo... but this, very much. Very, very much. It is astounding the lack of support creatives can't get.
>>67167195
/co/ is fedora central after all. As long as it shits on religion they'll love it, no matter how shit it is.
I still can't believe they got me to read the first 3 pages of pic related.
>>67174664
>Heavy Metal
Yeah, no. You're fucking stupid, senpai.
>>67175005
>>Occult Academy
Well to be fair....it was the first example I thought of when you said mystery. And wasn't Lain. Lain is technically horror, mystery, cyberpunk and psychological thriller rolled up into one
>Rahxephon
Funnily enough, I liked Rahxephon. A lot. I consider it superior to Evangelion. Some would say Eva came first and is better, but I'm of the opinion that Rahxephon did some things better than Eva. Also, it had robots made out of clay and were controlled by singing.
>>Vampire Hunter D
Matter of taste. I would have said Hellsing, but that could be polarizing.
>>: if anime is so much better than Western animation then shows like Lain or Cowboy Bebop should be more common
And as >>67175014 westaboo here points out, those are not common. Usually, those are seen as the one big show of their respective year.
Like, One Punch Man was for 2015. And before you call it One Meme Man: it was actually pretty good.The other good show in 2015 was Jojo. But thats more of a continuous shounen show.
>>67175014
>Anime also lacks the diverse art forms and styles explored in western animation. It is really much more diverse and artistic, with artists expressing ideas in several ways.
Examples? Western 2D animation is dead, but there are plently of quality and original anime every year out the hundreds released. 2016 already has a shit ton of super hyped releases. None of you /co/fags have been posting any webms
People love arguing about Eva because it mixes highbrow and lowbrow, just like every other "meme" movie/book/show that gets posted on this website. But it, like every other lasting piece of art, is really just about people and the struggles of their lives, and really it explores that in a way that's easy to understand implicitly. If you didn't like it, you probably got too caught up in the circlejerk of how "deep" it may or may not be, which Anno himself is not concerned with. Either that, or you have a severe deficit of empathy.
>>67175189
>>67174977
While I agree, I'll bite.
But both the Boondocks and Avatar had ended. I cannot think of any with webms this goodthat isn't from a movie
Anime is better because I never run of quality series to watch from my backlog while you have to actively search out a cartoon that's worth watching if your not a kid
>fate is good
i'm out
Until someone comes along and shows that a plot based, adult-oriented, and serious animated show can make the kind of waves that Family Guys does, nobody is going to throw money at projects that the industry regards as money sinks, especially when they can fund another cheap raunchy sitcom that have proven record of success.
Netflix might be the ones to open the door for serious animated content in the west. It could have been [as], but Mike Lazzo is a shortsighted twat who wants to hit it off with the "Family Guy audience" and gives better timeslots to Robot Chicken and Seth Macfarlane re-runs than the premiers of some of their best & most ambitious original programming like Venture Brothers.
>>67175260
I just used it show off some animation, but UBW ispretty good
if you don't like zero at least you have seriously shit taste
>>67175246
You're right senpai.
That I'm even posting any western gifs is only because I liked the Boondocks. But season 4 was shit.
>>67166574
That robids r awesom lel
>>67166574
The message of Evangelion is that life sucks and is hard but there is merit to your individuality even if you don't see it and it's always better to try in life than to take the easy road out and give up your individuality for faux-happiness and "progress"
>>67166574
Misato is best girl
>basic
>basic everywhere
>>67175246
To follow up on a previous posts earleir in this thread - Fire and Ice is one of the few Western animated movies that can come even close. And it was old. And rotoscoped.
But damn does it make me wish they'd do a Frazetta-ish anime.oh yeah. Its called Berserk
You guys are missing the point
keep posting those sword fights which is kid shit stuff and why anime is never be considered more than kid shit, which is i'm ok with it, but don't try to say it is above cartoons because it is not
Anno was a good director not because of the symbolism, he was a good director because he didn't need retarded flash sword fights to be the high point of the series
Just look how Jean dies in Secret of Blue water, he falls from a 4m platform head on and dies, no bulllshit whatsoever
Or I should start posting Qui gon x Darth Maul when talking about good fights in the star wars saga? Anime is written like shit
>>67175486
holy shit kill yourself you pretentious sack of shit. Fight scenes are just an easy way to show off quality animation. It's not like we can display good drama and writing easily in a webm, but anime has plenty of that. it's an entire medium you fuckwad
>>67175526
if you say so
>>67175486
Jesus bruh.
If we're going there, I might as well post pic related.
I haven't seen any cartoon quite like pic related. And it doesn't have any fighting.
>>67175232
this tbqh
>>67175526
>It's not like we can display good drama and writing easily in a webm
We could if mook would just let use post webms with fucking sound already.
>>67166415
>a tv show about a kid growing some fucking balls and manning up
>spergs splooge over religious symbology that means nothing and defending shinji's megafag behavior saying "he's only 12 years old"
I bet you didn't like How to Train Your Dragon either faglord
>>67175486
>he didn't need retarded flash sword fights to be the high point of the series
But ironically Asuka vs Rei waifu question became high point of the series.
>>67175664
It was okay.
>>67175671
because weebs are tards
most weebs I know picks series if "the girls are cute"
>>67175690
But they are look the same.
>>67175690
Is there another method? Pick cuties, girls and boys FTW.
>>67175604
>>>/wsg/993652
Sometimes, you don't need dialogue. Just a subtle change in the opening credits can hint at something within the animation itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xey17LnB4Dk
>>67167258
>>67175604
>>67175486
>>/wsg/993889
>>/wsg/993887
>>/wsg/993884
...shit. Now I need to watch Clannad again.the first half was terrible, though
>>67175958
I think TTGL was pretty good at least until they grew up.
Trash of the highest order. Bad art, bad design, awful story, and generic characters.
Please kill yourselves
>>67175958
Remove TFA 2bh
Everyone knows /v/eddit doesn't like stronk hurl powers
>>67167808
Some of the imagery with the gates of whatever that giant rei opens up raises interesting religious questions.
>>67173877
>Good sci-fi
Steins Gate
Cowboy Bebop
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Code Geass
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
Memories
Metropolis
>Good Cyber punk
Serial Experiments Lain
Psycho Pass
Ergo Proxy
Texhnolyze
Ghost In The Shell : Stand Alone Complex
Animatrix
>Good mystery
Death Note
Baccano
Death Parade
Monster
Darker Than Black
Mushishi
>Good Musical
Nodame Cantabile
Kids On The Slope
Beck
Your Lie In April
>Good Drama
Welcome To The NHK
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Millenium Actress
Ping Pong The Animation
Space Brothers
Tokyo Godfathers
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Grave Of The Fireflies
>Good Psychological Thriller
Perfect Blue
Paranoia Agent
Monster
End Of Evangelion
Angel's Egg
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Paprika
>Good Horror
Another
Mirai Nikki
Higurashi
Hellsing
Shiki
Deadman Wonderland
Now your turn. Name 5 good american cyberpunk,psychological thriller and sci-fi tv shows that came out in the last 15- 20 years.
Evangelion threads are always the best threads
>>67176705
t. low IQ /v/edora
>>67176700
>cyberpunk,psychological thriller and sci-fi tv shows
I meant animated tv shows.
