John Carpenter is looking a little green around the gills
>>66432040
he has become lo pan
someone get Kurt Russell on the phone, they only have one more chance
>>66432040
JUST
>"No comment"
https://youtu.be/frkzqmDBpno?t=378
he's like Tommy Chong. all the weed smoking ages his looks but he'll probably live to 75 or 80
>>66432040
He's been looking like that for a decade or so now, but doesn't seem to ave outstanding health problems. He should lose the cigs though.
On a related note, Lost Themes 2 is coming out soon.
John Carpenter is looking like a 68 year old.
>>66432218
>asking about the Halloween franchise and not the first one
What a fucking idiot.
John's a pretty cool guy though.
>>66432040
he got old and hollywood destroyed him from the inside you stupid faggot
what did you expect?
Even though it seems like he's not going to make movies again, I hope someone hires him and he returns to the field as composer.
>>66432040
He's coming to Primavera Sound Music Festival in about 4 months to play some music
I hope he doesn't kick it because I really wanna see him and dance to his tunes
new album next month
actually even tho he now looks like a mummy health wise he's now doing better than like 5 years ago, he had problems with with sight and all then but now he quit smoking and he's touring
I remmeber when he made The Ward he said he's working on getting a western made, goddamn I'd love if he came back to do one good movie but I really doubt it happens
at least he has a new album coming, good for him. love his music
if you ever meet Carpenter never ask him about movies, preferrably his movies. he hates talking about him everybody always asks him the same questions. talk to him about music or vidya and he'l talk with you for an hour. the reason some people complain stuff like "carpenter is a dick these days" is cause he's just fed up answering the same boring "what scares you, what do you think of horror" questions
>>66432040
JUUUUUUUUUUST
>>66432040
Hopefully Lost Themes 2 will be good
>>66432040
He'll be fine
>>66433096
I saw a recent interview of him by this british dude and John was very disinterested in the movie questions. When the interviewer said they were moving on, John let out an enthusiastic yes. Overall it's a pretty rough interview but worth watching to see the interviewer squirm a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVvn5PQHSF8
>about to release a new album
>about to go on tour
He'll be fine
>>66433096
He once said that he would like to make Dead Space movie, I would watch that. It is owned by EA though so there are my chances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9g0RlOicPo
>>66432040
Is that Unlucky Alf from The Fast Show?
>>66433096
I'd like to ask him some questions about Lovecraft like what his favorite story is and what movie (other than ITMoM) he thinks captures the Lovecraftian spirit best. And also if he played Dark Corners of the Earth. Probably will never get to meet him though.
I think he'd be interested in talking about horror movies if you asked non-obvious questions that aren't just about generic shit but about his own personal thoughts specifically. This interview was pretty much solely about the business but pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIj9zPuafIg
>>66433261
I heard he's played it a ton
>>66432679
tell that to Shatner
these will take it out of any guy in the long run
>>66432679
more like a 78 year old
>>66433470
>plastic surgery
>>66433553
She was the actress who made me realize I was a tits guy
>>66433333
Checked.
>>66433196
>about getting the gift of fantasy from your mother, was she into story telling or something like that?
>no, she was mentally ill.
>........................... ok
This is interesting as fuck, why not follow up and ask him in what way did he use this situation?
>>66432040
Is he still making movies?
And if not, does he plan to make more?
It would be a damn shame if he just didn't.
>>66433806
british people are actually quite stupid, everyone just conflates having a british accent with being intelligent because they consistently use british actors in movies to play the smartest character.
>>66432040
I don't understand? Looks like the genius alpha male he is.
He Won't Live
>>66433913
>Is he still making movies?
No.
>And if not, does he plan to make more?
50-50 I think. Like if an opportunity comes along he'll do it, but otherwise can't bother creating the opportunity.
>>66433915
As amusing this rant is, I think he was just too intimidated.
>>66434074
He was intimidated because he was quite stupid. Intelligent people have confidence in any situation.
>>66432040
I gotta be honest I really liked the album he put out last year or so.
>>66433553
Is that Michael Ironside in drag
>>66434104
>Intelligent people have confidence in any situation.
This is what retards actually believe.
>John Carpenter Live Dates:
>06/02-04 Barcelona, Spain @ Primavera Festival
>07/01-03 Ásbrú, Iceland @ ATP Iceland
>10/28 Manchester, UK @ Albert Hall
>10/29 Manchester, UK @ Albert Hall
>10/31 London, UK @ Troxy
>London
aw shit, I've not idea how electronic music like this even works live, but I'm tempted
I could've sworn there was word about him and Kurt Russell making a movie about a man who goes up against a cult to avenge his daughter.
>>66434583
Escape From Salt Lake?
>>66432642
>On a related note, Lost Themes 2 is coming out soon.
already out
>>66434632
did it leak or is it april 15th where you're at?
>>66434104
Dunning/Kruger suggests otherwise
>>66434778
smartass :^)
yeah its been leaked
>>66432218
Wow. What an autist. No wonder John didn't want to deal with the weirdo.
>>66432841
He just made a second studio album.
>>66434830
How is it? Any dip in quality from the first?
>>66433259
STOP
>>66434911
I mean composing for a movie or a game. He stated that he'd love to do that.
Would be a pretty good break from Zimmer imitations t b h.
>>66433036
he hasn't actually smoked in a year
>>66434583
If anybody finds more info on this pls yes
Which movies are Carpenter's top tier? I haven't seen many.
I'm gonna guess Halloween and The Thing are probably in there.
>>66434996
An excellent follow up. I hope he makes more.
>>66435341
Halloween
The Thing
They Live
Escape from New York
Assault on Precinct 13
>>66435341
Big Trouble in Little China is the greatest film of all time
>>66432218
>mfw idiots in the comments section say John was an asshole
The question was stupid and poor John probably gets asked it all the time.
he'll be fine
>>66432693
Eh, the first three are open game and even his preliminary stuff on the fourth one before giving up could be chatted about.
>>66435341
Those 2, plus: In the Mouth of Madness, They Live, Escape From New York, Big Trouble in Little China, Assault on Precinct 13, Prince of Darkness.
Do you think John will ever get to make his Western film? He's been wanting to for years and has managed to get something close with Assault on Precinct 13, Big Trouble in Little China, and Vampires.
Isn't he a leftist cuck? Shouldn't we hate him?
>>66435903
He's an old school leftist. In other words, he doesn't buy into SJW bullshit.
>>66435903
>we
>WE
>>66435903
>leftist cuck
>cuck
>we
smhkystbhfam
Isn't John currently working on a ton of television shows?
>>66435903
>Isn't he a leftist cuck? Shouldn't we hate him?
/leftypol/ pls go.
By the way, I remember reading somewhere that he was conservative. Not sure if it's accurate.
>>66435903
>>66435935
Yeah, I don't know why anyone would think the guy who made Assault on Precinct 13 is an SJW.
>>66436969
He hated Reagan although that just means he hates neo-cons.
>>66436999
True. I'm a fascist, and I hate Reagan, too.
>>66436969
Carpenter is an anarcho leftist. He even wanted to make a leftist hardcore porn movie in anamorphic widescreen awhile back.
>>66436995
He made They Live which got him labelled as a commie.
>>66437157
>He even wanted to make a leftist hardcore porn movie in anamorphic widescreen awhile back.
SOURCE?
>>66436969
What is conservatism for America these days anyway? Adherence to some nebulous "traditional values"? Religion? Cultish devotion to capitalism? Asserting your dominance by fucking over everyone else around you? Resisting any and all change?
Legit question.
>>66436995
AoP13 was an exploitation movie. There's no deep meaning behind it.
>>66437157
Sounds legit.
>>66437211
>What is conservatism for America these days anyway?
Pretty much everything you've mentioned, plus eternal war against everyone, with constant bitching that nobody will help you.
>>66432218
This fucker literally looks like a goat. Based John.
>>66435388
The Mist is good too but the special effects are dated. Also not really a movie but Cigarette Burns was magnificent.
>>66435903
>>66436969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXGajwqvntY
>>66437383
fuck, I meant The Fog
great music and movies
>>66437383
>Cigarette Burns
the angel made me shit my pants
>>66437211
>AoP13 was an exploitation movie. There's no deep meaning behind it.
It's not Dostoevsky. It's an action movie. But that doesn't mean there's no meaning behind it.
>>66437157
>leftist hardcore porn
What does that even mean?
>>66437211
>Resisting any and all change?
Stan Lee has almost finished with him.
>>66437534
Carpenter himself said multiple times that it was just an exploitation movie (action movies aren't necessarily this, as I'm sure you know) as well as a thinly disguised western.
But why don't you go ahead and tell us what the meaning behind it is?
>>66437667
What I hand in mind was more like not being bothered by the existence of homosexuals, not basing your entire existence on your sexuality with all the consequences of such a stupid act.
>>66434509
Don't be tempted bro, Barcelona here: I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna watch him and I'm gonna love it
Don't care much about the rest of bands that play on Primavera Sound Festival. I heard there's Tame Impala the same day, and Suede plays the day before Carpenter
>>66438769
>But why don't you go ahead and tell us what the meaning behind it is?
Dude, it's a 70s era movie where urban criminals are basically portrayed as zombies. It's Night of the Living Dead but with NAMs (and a bunch of token white guys so you're not called racist). How far does your head need to be stuck up your ass not to see the meaning here?
To be fair, I don't think John Carpenter intended there to be a clear racial subtext (he was just like a lot of people very concerned about crime), but you can't really tread in these waters and have it be entirely absent. It's always going to be in the back of your mind because race is the elephant in the room whenever you're talking about crime. This is why there are self-conscious attempts to play down the racial angle a bit by having the death-row inmate be white, the lead cop be black, and adding a bunch of white members to the gangs of blacks and Latinos. Then you're targeting the broader culture of criminality and not one particularly race. Then your views aren't outside the Overton window on this issue, and your film isn't going to be written off as fascist (well, that still happens anyway, but you get what I mean).
Anyway, yes, it's an exploitation movie, but the idea that any filmmaker makes a movie about any subject matter, however low-brow, without in some sense imparting their values and ideology is silly. It's especially silly here because the concept doesn't even make sense or seem remotely interesting if you're not cognizant of people's fears of urban violence and willing to play on that by replacing zombies, or Indians, or whatever, with Hilary Clinton's "super predators". The idea wouldn't even occur to you.
tl;dr, he's not a /pol/ack, but he isn't an SJW, either. Assault on Precinct 13 is a sort of vaguely PC un-PC film, if that makes sense. It's the closest thing you can make to a red-pilled film in Hollywood.
I didn't know he was still alive.
>>66440952
>Assault on Precinct 13 is a sort of vaguely PC un-PC film, if that makes sense. It's the closest thing you can make to a red-pilled film in Hollywood.
He also had a child killed on camera. I've never seen any other film / movie / kino do that.
he's 68-years-old, used to smoke in every interview, and has a history of cancer. he could look a lot worse
>it's a milquetoast interviewer tries desperately to remain professional and ask the same five boring questions about Halloween while John autistically gushes about video games he's been playing recently episode
>>66434632
>>66434778
Did you guys hear the track he made with Jean-Michel Jarre?
"A Question of Blood" of off Jarre's Electronica 1: The Time Machine.
Pretty good, I thought famalams.
>>66440952
So basically you're saying that Carpenter thought urban criminals are zombies and the solution is to shoot them all dead?
>>66435903
>we
Here, have a (You), anon, it's on the house.
Also where all these cunts come acting like being right wing is cool? 4chan feeds flooded with these tards as of late.
>>66441646
WE used to run across the whole spectrum, I think. Back in 2009 or so. I can't really remember.
The whole turbo right stuff started when /pol/ was restored. Part of it is just people pretending, part of it is real. The shilling has periods of high and low I believe.
>>66441563
Not that extreme. But you certainly don't make a horror-crime film that uses urban criminals as a surrogate for zombies if you take the standard liberal line on crime and justice.
>>66441298
thanks for the heads up, senpai
>>66438769
>exploitation movie (action movies aren't necessarily this, as I'm sure you know)
Exploitation movies can cover a lot of genres, including action. At least a 1/3rd of exploitation movies could probably be considered action. Not sure what your point is here.
>>66441919
Well I can't make a direct citation, but Carpenter's stance is far from what you take it to be.
I guess the way you interpret the movie or see an intent behind it all depends on how bound by ideology the director is. But we're talking about the man who made a movie (They Live) that not only passed Le Ideology Man's test but has also been used to illustrate how ideology works.
And of course, there's the fact that some of the main characters are criminals themselves (including a murderer), and that they fight side by side with cops against the "other" criminals, the inhuman horde (so apparently we're dealing with 2 classes of criminals!) who doesn't give 2 shits about who they're killing. Let's also not forget about the treatment of crime and criminals in other Carpenter movies like EFNY or Ghosts of Mars.
In short, I think you're quite off the track.
>>66441787
/pol/ isn't even properly right wing, they love big government
>>66435903
who the fuck hates John Carpenter? He's absolute goat comfy tier
>>66442512
Well fascists are right wingers. The relationship of government size to political side is quite different from merika in different parts of the world.
>>66442512
They are the ultimate political cucks because they want some tyrant to lord over them and solve all their problems
>>66442512
So what? They aren't as mutually exclusive as you think. Anarchism began as a leftist movement.
>>66442441
>And of course, there's the fact that some of the main characters are criminals themselves (including a murderer), and that they fight side by side with cops against the "other" criminals, the inhuman horde (so apparently we're dealing with 2 classes of criminals!) who doesn't give 2 shits about who they're killing.
If you believe that crime is primarily a response to one's culture and environment, there shouldn't be any inhuman horde. Individual exceptions don't change that.
>Let's also not forget about the treatment of crime and criminals in other Carpenter movies like EFNY or Ghosts of Mars.
I've never seen Ghost of Mars, and it's been awhile since I've seen Escape from New York, but I don't think sympathetic portrayals of criminals contradicts what I'm saying. I don't think anyone disagrees that there are "classes of criminal", and the idea of a criminal with a code of honor has always been a popular trope. It doesn't have anything to do with beliefs about crime and justice. You can see it John Wayne movies and Agatha Christie novels.
>>66441298
just listened
fucking nice
>>66435360
Closing your eyes and listening to the album is about as close as you'll get to a new movie from him.
>>66443589
>If you believe that crime is primarily a response to one's culture and environment, there shouldn't be any inhuman horde.
Unless your horde is literally inhuman.
Which is what they are in the movie by the way. Exactly like Michael Myers, who isn't human either.
>I don't think anyone disagrees that there are "classes of criminal", and the idea of a criminal with a code of honor has always been a popular trope
Except the lead criminal in the movie is a death row inmate that killed for pretty much no reason at all. What happens in the movie is that characters sentenced by justice for good reason (the question of death penalty aside) are portrayed as sympathetic, and a bunch of people who are just marginally worse than them are portrayed as zombies. You claim that this is perfectly coherent, and the part about a violent horde (and only that) betrays personal ideas of the director.
That's makes no sense though. Even more so if we keep in mind that all the events of the movie are triggered because some gang members are murdered at the very beginning (they're smuggling weapons, but don't shoot at the police), and the gang wants revenge (also they swear an oath via a blood pact, which certainly doesn't mean that Carpenter believes that street criminals are unga bungas).
There's no deep meaning behind Assault. There are some things about crime, sure, but certainly not about justice and how it should be delivered. It's an exploitation movie with western elements and/or (depending on who you ask) a straight up zombie movie. That's it. No redpilling was involved (They Live takes care of that).
>>66444855
>Unless your horde is literally inhuman.
>Which is what they are in the movie by the way. Exactly like Michael Myers, who isn't human either.
But he chose to portray them this way. That's my whole point.
>Except the lead criminal in the movie is a death row inmate that killed for pretty much no reason at all. What happens in the movie is that characters sentenced by justice for good reason (the question of death penalty aside) are portrayed as sympathetic, and a bunch of people who are just marginally worse than them are portrayed as zombies.
Again, I'm not seeing the contradiction. Exceptions don't disprove the rule. Certain criminals can be decent, while the majority are animals. The movie isn't about Napoleon Wilson. It's about the horde. Birth of a Nation features some Uncle Toms and mammy characters who stick up for their white owners, but that's not what you would focus on when talking about the overarching theme of the movie and its characterization of blacks, right?
>There's no deep meaning behind Assault. There are some things about crime, sure, but certainly not about justice and how it should be delivered.
I think you might be reading more into what I'm saying than I actually am. I never implied there was "deep meaning" behind it. You're right, it's just an exploitation film, but it's an exploitation film about urban criminals taking the place of zombies or some other soulless inhuman force. That's not arbitrary. It's a neat little concept that you think up when you're cognizant of the similarities between a bunch of dumb violent people who kill seemingly without reason or remorse and the walking dead.
Good discussion, but I don't think this is going anywhere. We both just have different interpretations of the movie.
>>66442512
>/pol/ isn't even properly right wing, they love big government
"Right-wing" doesn't mean small government. That's a dumb libertarian meme.
