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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRauXXz6t0Y

http://io9.gizmodo.com/john-olivers-attack-on-hollywood-whitewashing-is-both-s-1760630299

If you still wish John Oliver to replace with a woman, vote here.
https://www.change.org/p/hbo-replace-john-oliver-with-a-woman
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>>66289866
No. Stop. We have had enough threads about this. John Oliver is a huge cuck, we get it.
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>"Abortion laws"
>Abortion is theoretically legal, but some states make it practically inaccessible.

baby murder

progressive as fuck
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If you were to rape John Oliver, which hole would you choose?

I can't do pre-orthodontic british mouths, so its boipucci all the way for me, m8s
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>Whitewashing

Do libtards still push this meme?
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You know ehre this thread is leading my man

You knew when you hit post

Stop lying
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>>66289974

>baby

Wrong

>murder

Wrong again

>/pol/ tard manages to be wrong twice in two words

I see the containment board is still setting records in stupidity
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>>66290980
Have you ever asked yourself WHY white liberals hate their own race?

It's because they're educated

I have a Masters in History; white people suck
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>>66291108

>Masters

Keep reading, anon. Your theory has pretty poor explanatory value. It's a damn good Cuckold mantra though! :o)
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>>66291108
>Ph.D. in Math
>any job I want
>$300k starting

liberal arts a shit
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>>66291307

Math is sexist and racist, anon.
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>>66291108
>white people are the only race that ever owned slaves or conquered others

yeah no fuck off

even the transatlantic slave trade, admittedly one of the greatest crimes in all of history, only existed because African tribal leaders and kings were already enslaving conquered peoples and selling them to whitey, and that's ignoring the almost-as-big Berber slave market in North Africa
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>>66289866
He should step down and be replaced by a black transgendered disfigured overweight midget otherkin Muslim.

Otherwise, he clearly hates minorities.
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>>66291395
yes a black transgendered disfigured overweight midget otherkin Muslim who identifies as a blue shipping container from 1986 would also be acceptable
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>>66289866
call me a cuck but i found this mostly agreeable, but again he is arguing a point that 80 percent of americans agree with.
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>>66291375
Exactly! slavery was just as much a fault of blacks as it was whites.
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>>66289866
>Jews
>white

Are Brits really this fucking stupid?? Just because the man in the movie you see is pale faced does not make him white or mean Hollywood awards go to whites only
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>>66290980
Holy shit this image is gold

How much does /pol/ actually believe this shit? Or are they in on the joke?
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>>66289974
>14 year old girl gets raped and becomes pregnant
>some anon on a Brazilian Kayaking forum says she must carry it to term

ok
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>>66291108
>White people are the only evil humans on the planet.

Have you seen our closest biological relatives? Chimps practice rape, genocide, torture, cannibalism, infanticide, homicide.

Also white are just better at record keeping and being somewhat honest about the horrible shit they did.
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>>66291088
Sjw detected
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>>66292919
>sjw so stupid "he" can't even refute anything that the image says
LOL
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>whitewashing
>in the most Jewish fucking industry on earth besides banking
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>>66293456
>No actual arguments against what he said
People get pissed when black characters are played by black actors.
Is that not insane to you?
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>>66289866

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRauXXz6t0Y

This is mind blowing how backwards actual America really is. Well, maybe after they're done with this, they'll campaign against chopping babies' dicks off.
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>>66289974
>dude you need to give birth to the baby
>i didn't want this baby, i can't look after it either. it will have a shitty life.
>i don't care lmao just give birth to it
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>>66294822
>dude i just want to fuck without the adult responsibilities that come with it
:^)
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>>66289974
>I was raped by my father
>YOU HAVE TO GIVE BIRTH TO THAT MUTATED BABY, ARE YOU A BABBYKILL COMMUNIST?
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>>66289866
>direct link to gawker network
fuck off
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>>66294822

>i didn't want this baby

shouldn't have opened your legs then

>>66294909
>>66292937

this rarely happens. the percentage is so small as to be insignificant.
either way, adoption is preferable to murder

>>66291088

>wrong

okay, unborn human life.

>wrong again

>Deliberating ending a life
>Not murder

epic mental gymnastics faggot
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>>66294880
Man, even if you want to have sex, you have to be literally retarded to get pregnant

I've been cumming inside my gf every time for four years and we've never had one pregnancy scare because she takes her birth control on time
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Now, I think it's a difficult theme with an ethical fog surrounding it, but how morally impaired does an individual have to be to compare an unborn child with breast implants?
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>>66291108
I do too and white people are literally the epitome of the human race. We invented everything, we conquered almost the whole world, we have and are driving the progress of humanity.
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>>66294993

damn, what happened to you?

even though you're shitposting this is just strange
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>>66294993
>this rarely happens. the percentage is so small as to be insignificant.
either way,

This just in, you must give birth to and raise mutated down syndrome rape babies from your father because murder is wrong.
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>it's a eurocucks wake up early to shitpost episode

What's the temperature like there Ahmed?
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>>66295053

We? Who's we? You had no hand in this and we're not a faggy sports team
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>>66295083
I pity you for not feeling part of something greater then yourself and your immediate family. I speak as in We, as a nation
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>>66289866
>If you still wish John Oliver to replace with a woman
I'm sure that'll fix everything.
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>>66289866
>tfw only ever impregnated one girl
>It was an ugly slut I only ever fucked because I was lonely at the time
>Live in a free country and was able to convince her to have an abortion

Close call. Although I have my suspicions she was never pregnant because I never saw any evidence and she didn't want me to drive her to the clinic it was kinda worth the $400 to have her out of my life. Really should have got some kind of proof though. I was only a kid though and when she agreed to an abortion I felt like I had won the lottery.
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>>66295099
This is the problem with nationalism and <insert colour here> pride. Black people arent MLK. You arent Neil Armstrong. You dont get to claim credit for anything theyve done. Because you've done shit all with your life
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When is he going to talk about nba's diversity problem?
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>>66295170
>You dont get to claim credit for anything theyve done.

How is feeling like part of a well oiled machine taking credit for the work of others?
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>>66295170
Not him, but that's not how collective consciousness works
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>>66295214
Because youre not part of it. Youre not part of the car, youre just the toddler in the backseat benefitting from the work of greater men
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>>66295233
It doesnt work at all. Because YOU HAVENT DONE ANYTHING
You dont get to go "oh im part of something great" unless youve actually done literally anything great
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>>66295237
>Because youre not part of it. Youre not part of the car, youre just the toddler in the backseat

You just disproved your own point. No matter how useless a toddler is, he is still part of the family and takes pride in his father's achievements.
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>>66295170
Speak for yourself, faggotron. I've achieved enough to be proud of my life and I do not plan on stopping anytime soon.
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>>66295201
Except the NBA is purely meritocratic based on size, athleticism and technique, There just happen to be more blacks who check those first two boxes.

0/10 terrible argument.
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Whitewashing is pretty dumb

But some Egyptians look pretty white, niggers were calling Rami Malek White
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>>66294909
>>66295066
>incest immediately leads to horrible retarded baby birth defects
When will this meme end? It takes several generations of inbreeding for any significant defects to show.
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>>66295317
Except NASA is purely meritocratic based on scientific skill, ingenuity and engineering achievement. There just happed no be more whites who check those boxes.
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>>66295281
Dad didnt build the car.
The fuckers at Toyota built the car.
You are the toddler going "i share pigment with guys who built the car so im better than kids who do not share pigment with the guys who built the car"
You are so many layers removed from the accomplishments of whites. There exist today black and asian men who have far more reason to be proud of the moon, or hollywood, or nukes or any fucking thing you want to tout as an accomplishment of 'your' race, than you do.

You are of course free to look at these titans and draw inspiration from them. But to skip that step and go straight to "god im awesome because they did cool stuff" is the greatest insult to them you could deliver.
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>>66289866
god damnit that's a sexy reverse trap
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>>66295329

It still significantly raises chances of recessive genes matching .
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>>66295357
>Toyota

That's Japanese you dumb shit
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>>66295170
Its called potential, retard, this white anon has MORE POTENTIAL to become a Neil Armstrong than some nigger whose kin would have likely never reached space on their own.

You dont understand the continuum of genetics and how his claim to the greatness of whites is more legitimate than some other minority due to him having closer genetics to that great person. But of course your mind never takes account for genetics, in your mind "WERE ALL INDIVIDUALS, MAN!!!!"
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>>66295357
The fuckers who designed the car just happen to be 99% straight white men wearing thick glasses and pocket protectors.
Meanwhile your flavor of the month cool hip trendy NBA star is busy getting arrested for DUI's.
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>>66295315
>>66295315
>>66295315
Then be proud of that. Imagine some fuckwit being happy because you did something great, and you happen to share pigment. Wouldnt that piss you off?
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Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious how in America not black = white?

You have people with last names like Kowalski and Sanchez who are allowed to be identified as 'white'. Literally any manner of gypsy. slav or spic can call themselves white as long as they're not black. And black people and other 'white' people believe them. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
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ITT people who never looked up what whitewashing means.
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>>66292937
More blacks were aborted than born in New York last year.
That's a lot of raped 14 year olds
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>>66291108
>Masters in History
>america

you made your thesis on Germ ,Steel and Cuck right ?
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>>66289866

>She has no nudes from that shoot

why?
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>>66295406
Potential is worthless until its realized. Call me when youve done something useful, then instead of talking about anything you did to accomplish it just say "Muh Genetics" THEN ill buy what you're selling. Til then, maybe you should smell what you're shovelling.

>>66295408
But YOU fucking didnt!
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>>66295391
>recessive genes are bad
back to class
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>>66295357
>But to skip that step and go straight to "god im awesome because they did cool stuff"

Nobody said this. You heard it before somewhere else and are now arguing with someone because you're still mad and you want to take this opportunity to attack a point of view that you disagree with that has nothing to do with anyone in the thread and also Toyota isn't made by white people you stupid douche.
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>>66295453
I've built my own house. Your average nigger can't submit a tax return.
Oh wait, niggers don't work and pay taxes.
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>>66295463

Well, retardese isn't exactly dominant, is it?
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>>66295408
>NBA
>arrested

I think you mean NFL, bud. NBA players are literally good boys who dindu nuffin.
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>>66295464
>Completely missing the point of the Toyota comment
Who the fuck cares whichever car it was? Ford then fuck.

Oh and
>>66295053
He did. HE said all that shit and claimed some portion of the credit due to his race. So fuck yourself
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>>66295485
it is
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>>66295423
does it involve laundry?
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>>66295463
>I just learned that recessive genes can have positive traits so inbreeding has zero complications

:)
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>>66295516
>claimed some portion of the credit due to his race.

No he didn't.
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>>66295554
>I do too and white people are literally the epitome of the human race. We invented everything, we conquered almost the whole world, we have and are driving the progress of humanity.
>We invented everything, we conquered almost the whole world, we have and are driving the progress of humanity.
>We invented everything,
>We
>We
We is inclusive back to english class with you.
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>>66295480
>I've built my own house.
No, you haven't.
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>>66294993
>shouldn't have opened your legs then

dude consensual sex only for the purpose of recreation lmao
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>>66295569
He didn't say he did those things, he said that people who share his traits did those things and he's proud to share skin color and societal advantages with them. You're a psychopath. Take a breath and step away from the keyboard.
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>pro-life

Shouldn't it be pro-birth? I don't think the pro-life people really keep track of how the baby lives its life.
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What's worse reddi/tv/?
>A guy forces a girl to not abort their baby they want to lose
>a guy forces a girl to abort a baby they want to keep
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>>66295640
The second one because girls are retarded and fall in love with whatever tumbles out of their bush but they will never stop holding a grade and feeling sorry for themselves if they lose a baby even if they can have another one.
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>>66295453
>Potential is worthless until its realized.

>Probability is worthless until its realized

And realization is worthless without a society that nurtures and maintains its probability to happen.

Greatness isnt just born in a fucking vaccum individualistically, its made through thousands of years of breeding away from other groups and within a certain group which shares many of its traits.

According to your logic, your kid is worthless until he becomes something, in that case then you wouldent mind aborting him right?
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>>66294993

>shouldn't have opened your legs then

How do you feel about men who don't want to pay child support?
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>>66295589
>My right to have sex is more important than my unborn child's right to life
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>>66295701
>Caring about a whore's child

Hey that's one less whore off of the gene pool.
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>>66289866
>whitewashing
>replace him with a woman
A... black woman? I don't get it.
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>>66295317
it doesn't matter, we still need to diversify it so we can feel good seeing all those different colours. or are you a racist? ;=)
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>>66289866
>complains about whitewashing
>while being a white guy with his own show
Oh the ironing. How do we turn the tumblrverse against him and get him fired and replaced?
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>>66295701

Yes, the rights of an actual living human being do outweigh the """"""""rights"""""""" of a blob of cells that can one day become a human being. Glad you're getting it.
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>>66295530
>I literally don't know what a recessive gene is
>Or how to read even basic english
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>>66295375
>look up video to fap
>hear her talk like a moron
>boner dies
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The only people who abortions should be banned for are white people above the IQ of 100. I'm all for abortion for all other shitskins and especially white liberals aborting their defective offspring
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>>66295670
>>66295453
Cont:

Also, if potentials dont matter then why do people select for intelligence, beauty, and courage, etc. in a sexual partner? If greatness can come from ANYwhere then it shouldent matter who someone chooses as a mate, right?
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>>66295701
I'd say it is actually. A fetus cannot contemplate it's own existence and understand the tragedy of it's own demise, the only suffering that can be carried on is through established humans creating imaginary suffering where there is none, based on a simplistic understanding of human morals that doesn't take things into account on a case by case basis, but instead is a generic moral code imposed upon others.
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>>66295739
>that can one day become a human being

what constitutes a human being in your mind?
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>>66295763
>Making white men even more scared to have sex

What are you doing man? Don't you want to save the white race?
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>>66295170
They are part of the supporting system that allowed those people to make progress. Not everyone can be a scientist, we need farmers, we need engineers, people to build the roads, the towers, medics, teachers...

The society that allows progress to happen also came from white people, and you're a cuck for believing otherwise.
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>>66295453
You just got rekt by >>66295767
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>>66295589
Use a condom whore.

I fucking try to imagine how many cases of HIV women would be getting if vaginal sex had the same transmitting rate as anal.
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>>66295786
a minimum of 500 reddit karma
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>>66291395
>>66291715
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>>66295846
Exactly this, they might be just farmers, teachers, and soldiers but they provide the means by which greatness can exist in the first place.
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>>66289974
If abortion is murder, are miscarriages "manslaughter"?

Also, your mother should've "murdered" you.
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>>66289866
lets kills more babies, yey

fuck jews and their abortions
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>be a white celebrity
>complain about a lack of diversity
You want to know how I know he's not serious? Because if he was he would realize every job he takes is one less job for a nonwhite. If he actually cares he would be the change he wanted to see in the world and quit.
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>>66289974
>baby murder
Stop equating a fertilised egg with a small child. If I asked you to push a button and kill one child, or another button that burns 10 petridishes with fertilized eggs, would you rather kill the one baby?
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>>66291108
>you are responsible for the bad parts of your race's history and YOU SUCK
>>66295170
>YOU didnt have anything to do with the good parts of your race's history
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>>66289974
>not allowing people to do what they want with their lives
>forcing others to pay for mistakes
yeah, great business model, retard.
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>>66293552

>Egyptians were black

kek
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>>66293552
Alright, let's get Rami Malek in that Egyptian movie in that case. He's LITERALLY Egyptian
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>>66291375
>Transaltantic slave trade
>Greatest crimes in history
So why is that the British Empire gets as much blame as the Americans despite being the first to abolish it? They literally set the trend to end the transaltantic slave trade and even America had to come help end the Berber slave market
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>>66289974

Abortion has been legal since before you were born and will continue to be legal way after you die. There is nothing you can do about this. It doesn't matter how much you call it murder. It will never be murder because murder is illegal.
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>>66289974
We don't force perfect donor matches to give up an organ in order to save the life of a living kid, we shouldn't force women to undergo an excruciatingly painful ordeal that can cause permanent physical/mental changes and possibly kill her in order to "save the life" of a bunch of cells. The better we get at detecting pregnancy earlier, the weaker your argument gets.
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>kill a pregnant woman
>two counts of murder
Explain that, pro choice retards
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>>66298850
He's pretty hot too.
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>>66298850
but he's not Egyptian enough for the vocal internet demographic
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>>66291108
Suck at what? Seems to me that white people won the game of risk so ridiculously easily that they feel like they were picking on a retard. That's what this anti white shit is.

>awww poh babby
>sahwee we beat you so bad
>heuws a cookie
>we'll take it easy on you now, didn't realize you were retarded
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I'm against abortions but for killing babies
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>>66299401
>women don't get criminally charged for miscarriages, accidental or otherwise

Explain that, pro-life retards
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>>66298850
Why am I so attracted to this weird looking man
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>>66299401
What about killing a woman on her way to receive an abortion? Or just killing actual living people with families because they work at PP? Pro-lifers love doing that.
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>>66298850
>modern egyptians are ancient egyptians
epic
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>>66289866
>>66291108
>>66291088
Can you BE anymore obvious, outsider?
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>>66299770
They are. There's very little genetic difference between modern Gyptos and ancient Gyptos.
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>>66295417
It will come to europe
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>>66295775
Neither can a newborn

The only two logical positions on abortion are conception=life or abortion up until [insert measurement of human intelligence that distinguishes us from animals]. The latter allows for baby killing and society at large has a problem with that.

Kind of narrows down the options
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>>66296204
>manslaughter
No, unless you satisfy the elements of manslaughter

Are you trying to be cute?
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>>66289866
John Oliver is literally never wrong.
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>>66297306
>would you rather kill an old person or a baby?
>would you rather kill a dog or a cat
It's irrelevant to the core question of whether or not it's wrong
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>>66297789
>their lives
>intellectual dishonesty
It's almost like thats what the debate is about
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>>66299693
>what are criminal elements
Le clever post, upvoted
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>>66289866
2015
0
1
6
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>>66291108
>Masters in history

Anyone have that pasta about the guy who complained about only being able to get a job a train museum with a degree is history?
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>>66291088
>heartbeat
>fingerprints
>nerves, can react to stimulation
"r-really guys, i-it's not human AT ALL!"
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>>66289866
>John Oliver
>Gawker

Why would you even bother.
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>>66295329
You skipped high school biology, didnt you?
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>>66299770
you're right, why don't they get one of those ancient egyptian actors :^)
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>>66298850
>>66299456
>samefagging this hard
Retard.
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>>66300954
It is a potential human.

Deal with it, mon frere.
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I think abortion should be legal beyond those instances of incest and rape, but I fail to see how anyone can be excited at the fact that our culture is so degenerative people celebrate their ability to terminate their offspring in an act of supreme selfishness.
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>>66289866
>white man in media criticizes there being too many white men in media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9bu6CP318
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>>66301255
go fuck yourself
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>>66301561
>hey luuk guise I know how to use MS paint

This actually proves you were samefagging since you got insecure enough to go and put that image in paint to post it on here.
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>>66292937
Most conservatives support abortion for rape, incest and danger to the mother.
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>>66289866
ss
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>>66301627
How do you get MS paint on a smart phone?
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>>66291108
>history
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>66297306
>Stop equating a fertilised egg with a small child
why? biologically they are literally the same
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abortion is wrong

No, it's not 'her' body it's ANOTHER PERSON being housed in her body...

God said its better for a baby or person not to be born at all so they don't witness and commit all the evil on earth

But at the same time making it legal and acceptable to kill babies is extremely messed up

God also said in the end times women would lose affecting for children, and we're seeing that ithe now, especially with the 'manly woman' and feminism, women want to be seen just like men and don't want to be mothers or women anymore
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>>66291108
stop being racist
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>>66302096
whenever people start talking about God in abortion arguments my eyes just glaze over

Abortion in the West is a touchy subject but places like Bangladesh and India should be giving out free abortions. The overpopulation there is so extreme that access to abortion should be mandated across the board, but those places actually have stricter abortion legislation than we do here.
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>>66301627
>being this butthurt
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>>66302216
Of course your eyes glaze over, you hate God and His laws which are meant to free people from their sin, i.e. women losing affection fr children and terminating them
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>>66299770
Genetically, yes.
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>>66291108

>Masters in History
>Lumps White people into one racial-cultural category
>Thinks strength is bad

when will this 'morality' meme end?
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>>66297504
>two people have conflicting viewpoints
WHOA DUDE WE GOT EM
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>>66293101
Have you ever seen these little cutie pies? We're just as closely related to bonobos as we are to chimps. The only difference is bonobos are nonviolent, and their entire society is matriarchal. Whenever there's a dispute between two or more bonobos it's resolved through sex.

So, what were you saying about chimp's violent behavior and humans again?
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>>66289974
Abortion of unwanted kids is a net gain for all of us. Most children who would've been aborted if not for absurd laws will grow up in shitty homes, lead shitty lives, and then become shitty people that doesn't contribute to society.
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>>66302837
>bonobos
And they're going extinct because they're all non-violent cucks, what do you know.
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>>66289974
Babies are fucking awful. I'm glad abortion is fully legal where I live.
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>>66292937
>14 year old girl gets raped and becomes pregnant
Maybe if libtards weren't bringing so many shitskin rapists into the country she wouldn't have been raped. British faggots done anything about Rotherham yet?
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>>66291108
Seems to me that from a historical standpoint whites have consistently kicked ass.
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>>66289866
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>>66295237
>youre just the toddler in the backseat benefitting from the work of greater men
A lot of projection there cuck.
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>>66289974
>"baby"
>"murder"
no, you over-emotional reactionary pussy
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>>66291108
>educated
>gets a masters in history

Have fun with your customer service job, or teaching niggers about the evil white man
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>>66295412
He's being a productive member of society and perpetuating western morals and values. That's more than most libtard and their niggers pets can say.
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>>66295317
Silicon Valley is mostly meritocratic based on intelligence, education and work ethic, there just happen to be more whites who check those three boxes.

Looks like we can drop all the diversity programs.
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>>66298965
Because minorities are fucking stupid, led by whites for profit or a feeling of self satisfaction. They want to take what the white man has built and hand it our to everyone else. Except there will be nothing to hand out once the white man disappears.

Hopefully minorities can get their shit together. Eventually. I'd hate to think they're genetically inferior.
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Abortion should only be legal if
A: Within 1-2 month period MAX

B: Good reason such as actual rape

C: If they can tell the baby will be retarded or defected and would live a horrible life


Also white people hating white people is shitty. At least blacks and such have a reason. Yet there is Always people of any race who self hate
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White people are a microcasm of humanity

Other races are other animals

>Humans and animals are both animals. White people and others are humans

>Humans invent everything but people call it unnatural or evil sometimes. White people invent almost everything but people blame it for being bad sometimes


> Humans get blamed for every problem and people either hate them or love them too much. Same with whites

>Humans feel guity. So do some whites
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>>66295170
If we can't be prideful of what our ancestors did, we also can't be shamed of what they did. So how do you want it?
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>>66289974
>he thinks pic related is a baby
are you blind or just stupid
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>>66291108
>Masters in History

>gives an ethnocentric vision of a racial problem
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>>66289974
Assuming you're not baiting for replies, I actually agree with you. At the very least, it's something people should be able to talk about reasonably without resorting to name calling and insults. According the gallup poll in le 2016 man's video, 55% of the population thinks abortion shouldn't be legal in most circumstances. Only 29% think it should be legal in all cases. It's ridiculous how loud the pro-abortion circle jerk is, and how afraid everyone else is to speak up against it. I'm not religious or conservative btw.
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>>66295681
Not him, but I agree with most of what he's said so far so I'll answer your question. I think the man and woman in question are equally responsible for the unborn human life, it's just shit luck that the woman is the one who has to give birth to it. Once it's out of there, I think both parents should have the option to give it up. If one parent wants it, but the other doesn't, it goes to them. If neither want it, it goes up for adoption.

I don't feel as strongly about this as I do about abortion, and I'm willing to change my opinion about it, but this is kind of how I think things should work in an ideal world.
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>>66291108
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm
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>>66295763
i want to fuck the blue haired girl, why oh why do i feel this way?
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>>66291088

ending life isnt murder because..... look everyone this guys a nazi!
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>>66295616
>pretending that the pro-choice crowd isn't full of marxist nu-males
>supports the killing of children

Liberals are the worst people on the planet.
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>>66304827
>If neither want it, it goes up for adoption.
>>66294993
>adoption is preferable to murder

The majority of unwanted children do not get adopted, they grow up in group homes and (understandably) grow up to be completely fucked up assholes.
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>>66302096
>This post brought to you by ChristianMums.net/forum/
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What if we kill all white children
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>>66297306
>fertilized eggs can survive in petri dishes
>being an utilitarian kuk
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>>66305947
>having a shitty life is worse than being dead
>being a fucked up asshole is worst than being dead

How does this make sense? Being alive is an amazing gift. If you decide you don't want it after the fact, just kill yourself.
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>>66306306
>pushing someone to kill himself right after telling him life is a gift

wew lad
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>>66295763
I'm latino with 119 IQ, should I abort not breed senpai?
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>>66291108
PHD holder in Black History, Women's Studies, Gender theory, Queer Theory, and Gender Queer theory here. White Males are the master race.
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>>66306306
Not my argument, Anon. I'm not getting involved in all this abortion bullshit.

I'm just seeing people working under the assumption that adoption is a common or quick occurrence, that you can just say, "FREE CHILD," and someone will take it off your hands and that's that done, and this is incorrect.
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>>66306414
I wasn't saying he should kill himself, I was saying that if a person decides that life isn't worth the trouble anymore, they should kill themselves. I don't think suicide is a bad or unreasonable thing, but it's something every person has to decide at some point. "Is life worth living?" I think is an important question.

My point was that you shouldn't be able to take away someone else's life.
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>>66306442
When I said "goes up for adoption", I wasn't assuming it would find a home. I was just saying it would be in the system, and the biological parents wouldn't be responsible for it anymore.
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>>66291986
>>66291108
Slavery has existed since there have been communities and humans who would impose their wills on others. Almost every basic civilization had slaves, I'm not justifying the act but its not exclusive to white people.

Signed, a black man who got over it
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To anti-abortion people.

How do you feel about the wasting of sperm through masturbation?
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>>66295053
Yeah, but, it's only because you guys had all the guns, germs and steel
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>>66291108
It's because they're educated by the American education system which is run by hippies and cuckolds.
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>>66306585
Are you fucking serious?

Go read at least one page on the subject. What about menstruation? Isn't that a natural abortion every month?

Fucking idiot.
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>>66295053
>We
>we
>we
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>>66306655
I don't understand what you're trying to say here, Anon. Is there an anti-abortion manifesto which all of you ascribe to that has all of your collective views gathered on one page somewhere?

Or are you suggesting that sperm and an egg don't count as a person (even though a sperm that has just made contact with an egg apparently does) and this is so obvious the question shouldn't need to be asked?
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>>66291108

Here's your reply. What's your favorite movie, Anon?
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>>66306585
I feel like you're misunderstanding what anti-abortion people believe. You seem to think we value the "potential of life", so we would care about the waste of sperm.

Personally, I just value human life that exists right now. Where we probably disagree is that I believe human life begins as soon as sperm fertilizes an egg.

To answer your question though, I don't care at all about the waste of sperm through masturbation.
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>>66306850
>I believe human life begins as soon as sperm fertilizes an egg

But why?

I think the pro-abortion people still see that stage as just the potential of life, rather than it being actual human life. So on the actual core theme you agree, it's just the timeframe on which you differ.

So why does this argument always turn into, "You're evil murderers willingly murdering something!" and not turn into a debate about what point the sticky human potential becomes actual human life?
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cookies anyone?
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>>66289866
Yeah we get it. You believe that a wizard made the world who is eager to caught you masturbating and send you to the Hell for it.
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>>66307024
>PoC

That's racist as fuck. How the fuck did these dumb legbutt progressives fuck up this badly?
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>>66295083
>We? Who's we?
European peoples as societies, cultures.
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>>66306977

>But why?

It just makes sense. At that point it has it's own genetic makeup. It's literally a different organism than the mother it's inside of. I don't think anyone denies that either, most pro-choicers like to focus on whether or not it's sentient, which I think is interesting to talk about, but doesn't really matter. I don't value human life because it's sentient, I value it because it's human.

>So why does this argument always turn into, "You're evil murderers willingly murdering something!" and not turn into a debate about what point the sticky human potential becomes actual human life?

I definitely think there should be more debate about it. I don't know why you think pro-abortion people are the problem. From my experience, Pro-choice people are much less likely to hear you out, and much quicker to start the name calling.
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Yes please replace him with a woman to remove any funny spark the show might've had.
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>>66307212
>I don't value human life because it's sentient, I value it because it's human.
Isn't their argument that the sentience is what makes the organism human in the first place?

>I don't know why you think pro-abortion people are the problem.
I don't think that, but you're the only one taking the time out to actually reply to me so I'm catering the questions to you rather than speaking broadly about it.
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>>66302977
>Civil unrest and increasing poverty in the area around the bonobos’ forests have contributed to bonobo poaching and deforestation.

Actually, they're endangered because people are too violent.


http://www.worldwildlife.org/species/bonobo
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>>66307310
>Isn't their argument that the sentience is what makes the organism human in the first place?

Not from what I've seen. I don't personally think this debate should involve things like "souls" or "human-ness". If it has human dna, then it should be considered human. "sentience" is a poorly defined word and is kind of spiritual in nature, so I don't see the point in using it in these discussions.

Some people think sentience means being able to think and feel, while others think it means something more spiritual. It just makes things more confusing than they already are.
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>>66307027
*Tips
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>>66289974
It's honestly mind-boggling if you think about it. You'd figure SJWs (read: a very vocal part of the American population, some of whom are in this very thread) would be aghast by the prospect of abortion, but they're all for it.

Retarded, petulant children who cry and stomp their feet until they get what they want. That's all they are.
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>>66307565
>SJWs (read: a very vocal part of the American population
>this is what /pol/ actually believes

It couldn't have anything to do with you being 18 hours on the computer?
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A fetus is no more a human than a semi-finished car is an actual vehicle for driving.

It has the potential to be a car, but it is not. If you take it apart, you are not taking apart a car.


We went over this in philosophy.
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>>66295763
132 iq spic here. 100 is too low m8. The cutoff point should be 115 for whites, 120 for asians, 135 for everything else
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>>66307820
A quadruple amputee isn't a human either since it's missing key components.

Simplified arguments like yours aren't going to convince anyone.
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>>66308156
>arms and legs
>key components

If they're key components how are quadriplegis so good at being alive?
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>>66307454
Proving man is more chimp than bonobo.
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>>66301769
And yet they are closing down the hospitals that allow them to do that, denying them the ability to get an abortion.
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>>66291088
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>>66302096
It's a good thing God had no place in our legal system.
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>>66308262
Come on, man, didn't you see those heavily edited melodramatic videos from Planned Parenthood? Those places are literal meat factories!
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>>66289974

This

Abortions are fucking outrageous. If you can do it very early, okay. But when it is alive? Literal murder. Some of the shit you see is mental. I can't see how anyone can support it at that stage of pregnancy.

>meanwhile if you will be vilified by John Oliver for saying anything about muzzies or blacks
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>>66308567
Question, do you honestly believe women go for abortions at 8 months into pregnancy?
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>>66307565
Nothing about this post makes sense.
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>>66308624

I can't see where I gave a specific length of time, can you point it out to me?
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I find it funny how liberals/pro-choice people are so sure of themselves when talking about the personhood of a fetus, it's almost like all of sudden people start being experts in fetal development. Even biologists haven't come to a consensus on this matter. Stop embarassing yourselves.
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>>66295170
the real problem is whites hating themselves, less whites = less progress, that is ofc generalizing as fuck but that is what history teaches us, also muslims didn't invent algebra, they got it from the chinese thru trading with them
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>>66295453
you are just bitchy because you are shit, I'm shitty too atm, but in future if my life becomes better maybe I can make something new and worthwhile or my children could do it
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>>66292919
have never checked what sjw and left have said in the recent years?
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>>66309625
sauce pls
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>>66299770
at least more than niggers, sandniggers and whiteys or I guess one could argue that they are sandniggers
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>>66309035

They aren't sure because the point itself is one of contention. Science has yet to prove an objective time when a fetus stops being a collection of cellular matter and starts being a valuable member of society.

People tend to be sure of their own opinions.
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>>66295806
just use condom brah
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>>66306416
impregnate latino girl and invent some new burrito tech or something
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>>66289866
>https://www.change.org/p/hbo-replace-john-oliver-with-a-woman
>COME ON PEOPLE IT'S 2016

I knew i could trust you.
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>>66309964
If you aren't a biologist your opinion on this matter has no value; it's just blind proselitism. The fact that science has no consensus on this matter is enough argument to ban abortion.

"We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins. When those trained in the respective disciplines of medicine, philosophy, and theology are unable to arrive at any consensus, the judiciary, at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is not in a position to speculate."
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>>66307193
when was russia under european control? lol wut
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>>66309035
As opposed to operating entirely based on emotions and fairy tales like the pro-choice crowd?
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>>66291108
Prof. Kikeberger from Franfurt school taught you well
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>>66309964
>being a valuable member of society.
that's when the "fetus" is 18
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>>66308712
I was being nice to you by implying you had at least thought your post through.

Tell me then, where exactly are women getting legal abortions after the first or second month?
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>>66310222
It's in fact the exact opposite of an emotional argument. If you are not sure of when a fetus develops into an actual person, the only sensible decision is to ban abortion for all cases with the exception of pregnancies that threaten the mother. Why should we risk killing a person in potential when there isn't another life at stake? The pro-choice crowd is the one that operates based on emotions.
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>>66291108
>It's because they're educated
I bet thats what the germans thought too before the holocaust
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>>66310217
Where does it say it was?
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>>66310375
>If you are not sure of when a fetus develops into an actual person, the only sensible decision is to ban abortion for all cases with the exception of pregnancies that threaten the mother.

Because this is what they refer to when they rant about God not wanting abortions and Planned Parenthood staff and visitors getting shot, right?
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All they're saying is white people who do most of the creating shouldn't be allowed to create anything white except for villians.
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>>66295083
>white people must take responsibility for the crimes of their ancestors
"white people suck"
>white people not allowed to be proud of their ancestors advancements
"whos we?"

liberal doublethink, either we are to blame for our past, or we are not
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>>66310449
Attack my argument and not your pro-life bogeyman. I don't believe in God and am pro-life.
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>>66304827
>>66306306
>forcing a person to undergo huge body and mental changes (and possible death, there are a shitton of things that can go wrong for pregnant women) for most of the year only for them to deal with the struggle of giving it up and knowing the kid may never get a decent life because every sperm is sacred
>forcing people to have dangerous back alley abortions because you're too much of a myopic moralfag to look at the issue from all angles

Science needs to hurry up and find a means to detect pregnancy without human chorionic gonadotropin factoring in so you dumb idiots can finally fuck off.
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>>66302685
>im gonna defend a guy because he's antiwhite even though we have contrasting viewpoints
fuck off
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>>66310548
see
>>66310562
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>>66310511

That's not "liberal" doublethink, you see the exact same thing all over /pol/, magnified intensely. Kill yourself.
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>>66310596
>I'm gonna silence all of those who oppose my views

Fuck off.
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>>66310562
As I said before, abortion is justifiable when the mother's life is threatened.

>forcing people to have dangerous back alley abortions because you're too much of a myopic moralfag to look at the issue from all angles
The person undergoing an illegal abortion is the one who lacks morality.

Funny that you're the type of person who'll claim pro-life crowd bases their position on emotion, when you're clearly making a heated, sentimental argument.
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